IRC Log for #openid on 2010-01-21
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- [00:05:34] <sohum>
so in openid, the URI that the user claims is supposed to be universal, right?
- [00:19:20] <flaccid>
what do you mean by universal?
- [00:22:00] <sohum>
as in, a global identity for that person?
- [00:22:29] <flaccid>
define 'global identity'
- [00:22:49] <flaccid>
URLs accessible on the internet are generally global..
- [00:23:00] <sohum>
global: can be agreed upon by everyone
- [00:25:10] <sohum>
basically, if someone uses the same openid to log in to two consumers, the URI should be the same, right?
- [00:25:50] <flaccid>
well it uses HTTP, so i guess that is 'globally agreed upon'
- [00:26:12] <flaccid>
yes, the URL which is the openid identifier is unique and is the identity itself
- [00:26:44] <sohum>
right
- [00:26:56] <sohum>
so is google's implementation then a conforming implementation?
- [00:27:03] <flaccid>
no, not at all.
- [00:27:20] <flaccid>
the big players have failed in abiding to the standard and its best practices
- [00:28:14] <sohum>
does anyone else do the same thing?
- [00:28:28] <sohum>
or, rather, break the spec in the same way?
- [00:29:16] <flaccid>
i think all the big players break it
- [00:29:24] <flaccid>
and they all do it differently
- [00:30:32] <yangman>
google's implementation is technically comformant, but not to the spirit of the protocol
- [00:31:22] <sohum>
it's technically conformant? the protocol doesn't require a unique no-autodiscovery-needed URI?
- [00:32:31] <yangman>
huh?
- [00:34:15] <flaccid>
well the above is debatable
- [00:34:48] <yangman>
probably. it doesn't forbid a lot of things, and identifier_select is explicitly allowed
- [00:35:00] <yangman>
definitely not in the spirit, though
- [00:36:38] * sohum nods
- [00:38:56] <flaccid>
in summary, a fail
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