IRC Log for #openid on 2010-01-21

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  1. [00:05:34] <sohum> so in openid, the URI that the user claims is supposed to be universal, right?
  2. [00:19:20] <flaccid> what do you mean by universal?
  3. [00:22:00] <sohum> as in, a global identity for that person?
  4. [00:22:29] <flaccid> define 'global identity'
  5. [00:22:49] <flaccid> URLs accessible on the internet are generally global..
  6. [00:23:00] <sohum> global: can be agreed upon by everyone
  7. [00:25:10] <sohum> basically, if someone uses the same openid to log in to two consumers, the URI should be the same, right?
  8. [00:25:50] <flaccid> well it uses HTTP, so i guess that is 'globally agreed upon'
  9. [00:26:12] <flaccid> yes, the URL which is the openid identifier is unique and is the identity itself
  10. [00:26:44] <sohum> right
  11. [00:26:56] <sohum> so is google's implementation then a conforming implementation?
  12. [00:27:03] <flaccid> no, not at all.
  13. [00:27:20] <flaccid> the big players have failed in abiding to the standard and its best practices
  14. [00:28:14] <sohum> does anyone else do the same thing?
  15. [00:28:28] <sohum> or, rather, break the spec in the same way?
  16. [00:29:16] <flaccid> i think all the big players break it
  17. [00:29:24] <flaccid> and they all do it differently
  18. [00:30:32] <yangman> google's implementation is technically comformant, but not to the spirit of the protocol
  19. [00:31:22] <sohum> it's technically conformant? the protocol doesn't require a unique no-autodiscovery-needed URI?
  20. [00:32:31] <yangman> huh?
  21. [00:34:15] <flaccid> well the above is debatable
  22. [00:34:48] <yangman> probably. it doesn't forbid a lot of things, and identifier_select is explicitly allowed
  23. [00:35:00] <yangman> definitely not in the spirit, though
  24. [00:36:38] * sohum nods
  25. [00:38:56] <flaccid> in summary, a fail
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