IRC Log for #openid on 2010-06-04

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  59. [23:08:22] <ajsie> how do you login using google
  60. [23:08:28] <ajsie> what is the open id code i should type in?
  61. [23:10:04] <yangman> your google profile page if you have one
  62. [23:10:13] <ajsie> hm
  63. [23:10:16] <ajsie> what is that?
  64. [23:10:20] <ajsie> i have gmail.com
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  66. [23:12:29] <yangman> or https://www.google.com/accounts/o8/id
  67. [23:17:59] <ajsie> yangman: one actually has to remember that?
  68. [23:18:08] <ajsie> i just dont understand how they are thinking sometimes
  69. [23:18:27] <yangman> no, google expects consumer implementations to remember it for users
  70. [23:18:29] <ajsie> a lot of users are asking..what code? what openid link? so i think...why all these links
  71. [23:29:01] <ajsie> i have to use https://www.google.com/accounts/o8/id
  72. [23:29:06] <ajsie> oh u typed it
  73. [23:29:15] <ajsie> but how the heck could this be simple to remember?
  74. [23:29:32] <ajsie> why not just type my gmail.com account or google account and it redirects me to https://www.google.com/accounts/o8/id and i type in password
  75. [23:29:35] <ajsie> how did they think?
  76. [23:29:45] * yangman sighs
  77. [23:29:47] <yangman> look it up
  78. [23:29:51] <yangman> and read the openid spec
  79. [23:30:01] <ajsie> i just dont understand them
  80. [23:30:06] <ajsie> https://www.google.com/accounts/o8/id ??
  81. [23:30:11] <ajsie> sounds like a joke
  82. [23:30:14] <yangman> it's called Directed Identity
  83. [23:30:39] <ajsie> i c
  84. [23:30:39] <yangman> look it up. if you're still confused after reading the how and why, feel free to ask again
  85. [23:30:45] <ajsie> okay
  86. [23:30:56] <ajsie> i know how its used
  87. [23:31:01] <ajsie> just dont know why that link
  88. [23:31:11] <ajsie> better with ajsie@gmail.com
  89. [23:31:16] <ajsie> they redirect me to that page
  90. [23:31:18] <yangman> that's not a URL
  91. [23:31:26] <ajsie> they redirect me
  92. [23:31:31] <ajsie> why should i remember it
  93. [23:31:40] <ajsie> its too long
  94. [23:31:54] <yangman> no one's asking users to remember it
  95. [23:35:25] <ajsie> i read 2 articles
  96. [23:35:34] <ajsie> still have no clue
  97. [23:35:48] <ajsie> u said i dont have to remember?
  98. [23:36:02] <ajsie> what do i type in then in the openid code?
  99. [23:36:34] <yangman> http://code.google.com/googleapps/domain/sso/openid_reference_implementation.html read the last section
  100. [23:38:24] <ajsie> yeah
  101. [23:38:28] <ajsie> i understand the process
  102. [23:38:40] <ajsie> but i dont understand what code i should type in...its the link u just posted right
  103. [23:38:46] <ajsie> https://www.google.com/accounts/o8/id
  104. [23:38:49] <yangman> yes
  105. [23:38:50] <ajsie> so i have to remember that?
  106. [23:39:03] <yangman> you shouldn't have to
  107. [23:39:14] <yangman> let me say that again
  108. [23:39:17] <ajsie> u mean copy and paste?
  109. [23:39:19] <yangman> it's not intended for you to have to
  110. [23:39:33] <ajsie> http://snipt.net/
  111. [23:39:47] <ajsie> so when i encounter a "login with openid"
  112. [23:39:47] <ajsie> what should i type in?
  113. [23:40:05] <yangman> that url
  114. [23:40:13] <ajsie> so i have to remember?
  115. [23:40:30] <yangman> in this case, yes, because the consumer isn't accomodating it in their UI
  116. [23:40:44] <ajsie> okay
  117. [23:40:52] <yangman> or, just set up a google profile page and use that istead
  118. [23:40:55] <ajsie> so u mean they should have a google logo
  119. [23:40:59] <ajsie> when i click on it...it redirects me
  120. [23:41:20] <ajsie> that is the case in Stackoverflow
  121. [23:41:32] <yangman> yeah. that's how google recommends people do
  122. [23:41:44] <yangman> but they've added OpenID support to profile pages so it's no longer mandatory
  123. [23:42:02] <yangman> you can use the URL of your google profile page as an identity
  124. [23:42:09] <ajsie> okay
  125. [23:42:12] <ajsie> im creating one now
  126. [23:42:21] <ajsie> why cant i use gmail.com or google.com?
  127. [23:42:23] <ajsie> account
  128. [23:42:57] <yangman> technically, nothing
  129. [23:43:01] <yangman> that's google's choice
  130. [23:43:26] <ajsie> ok
  131. [23:43:29] <ajsie> now i have created a google profile
  132. [23:43:32] <ajsie> what is the link?
  133. [23:43:40] <ajsie> so confused
  134. [23:44:12] <yangman> you have to make it public, iirc
  135. [23:44:23] <yangman> it'll be http://www.google.com/profiles/<username>
  136. [23:44:34] <yangman> it would have also told you, IIRC
  137. [23:44:38] <yangman> you should try reading directions
  138. [23:45:15] <ajsie> i am...but i get frustrated
  139. [23:45:29] <ajsie> when u want to do simple things
  140. [23:45:41] <ajsie> but u have to read read read
  141. [23:45:47] <yangman> that's not a good reason to push the work onto other people
  142. [23:45:55] <yangman> it's quite rude, actually. just so you know
  143. [23:46:06] <ajsie> shouldnt be like that if people develope good easy to use solutions
  144. [23:46:08] <ajsie> i know...im sorry for my rudness
  145. [23:46:42] <ajsie> not my day
  146. [23:46:47] <ajsie> thanks for the help!
  147. [23:46:49] <yangman> it's a topic that's been discussed to death. OpenID isn't an ideal solution, but it's a practical solution
  148. [23:46:59] <ajsie> yeah
  149. [23:47:10] <yangman> it's limited by how the web works
  150. [23:47:17] <ajsie> if they just had the link to google
  151. [23:47:21] <ajsie> then everything would be perfect
  152. [23:47:33] <ajsie> "enter openid code"
  153. [23:47:55] <ajsie> its like "what code?"
  154. [23:48:15] <ajsie> 0.1% of the world's users will get it
  155. [23:48:20] <yangman> well, it claims to be "for coders". assuming knowledge of openid isn't completely unreasonable
  156. [23:48:45] <ajsie> should be just for coders
  157. [23:48:45] <ajsie> its a good implementation
  158. [23:48:48] <ajsie> making it easy to login
  159. [23:48:56] <ajsie> shouldnt be i mean
  160. [23:49:21] <yangman> well, that's their choice
  161. [23:49:45] <ajsie> yeah...frustrating
  162. [23:50:21] <ajsie> anyway
  163. [23:50:23] <ajsie> thanks for the help!
  164. [23:50:34] <ajsie> gotto go now
  165. [23:50:34] <yangman> np
  166. [23:50:35] <ajsie> sorry for the nagging =)
  167. [23:50:43] <yangman> everybody has bad days :)
  168. [23:50:55] <ajsie> yeah =)
  169. [23:50:57] <ajsie> c u
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