IRC Log for #openid on 2010-07-01

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  30. [07:20:40] <plantian> Is it normal for websites with openid logins to use a user's openid url as a unique identifier in their profile url ? Such as www.example.com/users/{openid-url} ?
  31. [07:29:46] <yangman> er, yes?
  32. [07:29:57] <yangman> it's the one thing that's unique to the user
  33. [07:30:42] <plantian> http://wiki.openid.net/Relying-Party-Best-Practices#ClearlyinformtheuseriftheirOpenIDwillbepublished -- weel they kind of dance around it here like its a bad idea
  34. [07:31:52] <plantian> yangman: it seems kind of like something you wouldn't want published all over the place
  35. [07:33:16] <yangman> oh, you mean as something that's publically visible
  36. [07:33:28] <yangman> yeah, poor practice, I suppose
  37. [07:34:10] <plantian> Yeah right, so if I want to make nice urls.
  38. [07:34:33] <plantian> Otheriwse I have to ask them for a username/url-slug or use some sort of auto generated id or slug.
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  43. [08:04:49] <flaccid> plantian: unlike other identifiers, an openid identifier URL does not give away anything if designed without personal details
  44. [08:07:00] <plantian> flaccid: Right but if its used on two sites publicly then you can assume its the same account right?
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  46. [08:07:25] <flaccid> sure
  47. [08:07:38] <flaccid> thats kind of what an identity is about
  48. [08:08:01] <flaccid> if the user wants to be private the should not be posting public on a public site. nothing new here.
  49. [08:08:17] <flaccid> sites control what they expose, not openid
  50. [08:09:00] <flaccid> for e.g. email - well if they expose that, you are subject to spam. openid is not like that
  51. [08:09:20] <plantian> Right, I don't know, also it just seems weird putting their id out there from a security perspective. I'm just kind of thinking/worrying about it at this point.
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  53. [08:10:02] <flaccid> openid only verifies the owner of a URL
  54. [08:10:16] <flaccid> URLs have never been a subject of security
  55. [08:10:23] <flaccid> how they are served etc. is
  56. [08:10:51] <flaccid> if your http server is open to vulns, well that has not much to do with openid itself
  57. [08:11:14] <flaccid> on that note, im out to dinner.
  58. [08:11:31] <plantian> oh right, so is an openid url different than the login used to validate ownership of the url ?
  59. [08:11:58] <flaccid> no, an openid identity is an openid identity which is a URL
  60. [08:12:21] <flaccid> openid auth is different
  61. [08:13:07] <flaccid> its all based on the fact that you need access to the web server to serve it. if you have that, then it can be verified. if hackers have that, you are screwed more than average. nothing new here
  62. [08:13:25] <flaccid> on that note i'm out
  63. [08:13:27] <plantian> Yeah right ,okay thanks for the insights.
  64. [08:13:34] <flaccid> i doubt you have an insecure web server.
  65. [08:13:37] <flaccid> cya
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