IRC Log for #microformats on 2006-08-01
Timestamps are in UTC.
- [00:03:47] * ryanlowe (n=chatzill@CPE00045a734098-CM001225d89e7c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) Quit ("Chatzilla 0.9.73 [Firefox 1.5.0.5/2006071912]")
- [00:13:45] * briansuda (n=briansud@AC85C5AB.ipt.aol.com) Quit ()
- [00:16:20] * alexandermuse (n=alexande@c-67-162-230-24.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) has joined #microformats
- [00:22:09] * tantek (n=tantek@dsl092-180-250.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net) Quit (Remote closed the connection)
- [00:22:16] * tantek (n=tantek@dsl092-180-250.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net) has joined #microformats
- [00:22:34] * ChanServ sets mode +o tantek
- [00:25:56] * hober (n=ted@unaffiliated/hober) Quit ("nil")
- [00:26:05] <mfbot>
[[hreview]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hreview&diff=0&oldid=7912 * Tantek * (+274) added clarification for encapsulated microformat in item vs. item info subproperties
- [00:26:33] * kingryan (n=kingryan@dsl092-180-250.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net) Quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
- [00:28:34] <tantek>
darn briansuda left
- [00:28:37] <tantek>
DanC, still around?
- [00:28:45] <tantek>
drew, awake?
- [00:28:56] * remi (n=remi@c207.134.31-221.clta.globetrotter.net) has joined #microformats
- [00:28:56] <jibot>
remi is Remi Prevost, a web developper (yeah, that's how we spell "developer" in french) from Quebec and blogs about web stuff at <http://remiprevost.com/>
- [00:29:06] <tantek>
i want to discuss potential implied "fn" in hCard
- [00:29:29] <tantek>
drew is going to love this i'm sure
- [00:29:36] <tantek>
first, the motivating example:
- [00:34:26] * qid eagerly anticipates implied "vcard" in hCard
- [00:34:31] * cori[s]|xchat (n=cori[s]@pdpc/supporter/active/CoriS) has joined #microformats
- [00:35:29] <tantek>
no gotta have the root class name
- [00:35:33] <tantek>
can't get away from that
- [00:37:45] * dc__ (n=dctanner@bb-87-81-165-34.ukonline.co.uk) Quit ()
- [00:40:16] * KevinMarks (n=Snak@pdpc/supporter/active/kevinmarks) Quit (Connection timed out)
- [00:41:16] <tantek>
basically the problem case is one of putting items (e.g. hCards) in table rows
- [00:41:26] <tantek>
so you have <tr class="vcard"> for each hCard
- [00:41:29] <tantek>
but then what
- [00:41:40] <tantek>
say you are putting the given and family-names in separate columns
- [00:41:52] <tantek>
there is no place to put class="fn n" for example
- [00:42:02] <tantek>
thus two straw proposal optimizations
- [00:42:35] <tantek>
1. if there is no "fn", but there is an "n" property, then imply the "fn" from the concatenation of all the n subproperties that are present in the source order that they are present.
- [00:42:56] <tantek>
2. if there is no "fn" NOR "n" property, then imply an "n" from the collection of n subproperties that exist
- [00:43:09] <tantek>
which provides you sufficient structure then to follow optimization 1 to get the "fn"
- [00:51:22] <mfbot>
[[hreview-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hreview-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=7913 * Tantek * (+458) added a few more optimizations for content authoring
- [00:51:57] * emeyer (n=emeyer@h-69-3-204-125.sfldmidn.dynamic.covad.net) has joined #microformats
- [00:53:57] <tantek>
just as i have to go
- [00:54:03] <tantek>
eric, see irc archives
- [00:58:33] <emeyer>
Whereabouts?
- [00:58:51] * tantek looks at /topic
- [00:58:57] <tantek>
Channel is logged: http://microformats.org/wiki/mflogbot
- [00:59:06] <emeyer>
Sweet. Thanks.
- [00:59:23] <tantek>
http://rbach.priv.at/Microformats-IRC/2006-08-01#T004116
- [00:59:26] <tantek>
ok, bbiab
- [01:00:29] * mlinksva (n=mlinksva@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/mlinksva) Quit ("Leaving")
- [01:06:26] * tantek (n=tantek@dsl092-180-250.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net) Quit ()
- [01:31:14] <mfbot>
[[hcalendar-ja]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar-ja&diff=0&oldid=7914 * IwaiMasaharu * (+134) sync: english: 15:03, 31 Jul 2006
- [01:35:54] * alexandermuse (n=alexande@c-67-162-230-24.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) Quit ()
- [01:40:35] * vant (n=vant@FLH1Abe103.isk.mesh.ad.jp) has joined #microformats
- [01:51:41] * valmont (n=chrishol@pdpc/supporter/silver/valmont) Quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out))
- [01:54:40] * tantek (n=tantek@adsl-63-195-114-133.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) has joined #microformats
- [01:54:40] <jibot>
tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
- [01:54:58] * ChanServ sets mode +o tantek
- [02:15:39] * KevinMarks (n=Snak@h-68-164-89-20.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net) has joined #microformats
- [02:15:55] * ChanServ sets mode +o KevinMarks
- [02:17:39] * remi (n=remi@c207.134.31-221.clta.globetrotter.net) Quit ()
- [02:19:42] * cori[s]|xchat (n=cori[s]@pdpc/supporter/active/CoriS) Quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out))
- [02:24:57] * alexandermuse (n=alexande@c-67-162-230-24.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) has joined #microformats
- [02:51:15] * alexandermuse (n=alexande@c-67-162-230-24.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) Quit ()
- [02:59:44] * cori[s]|xchat (n=cori[s]@pdpc/supporter/active/CoriS) has joined #microformats
- [03:15:42] * dbaron (n=dbaron@gw.office.mozilla.org) Quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host))
- [03:16:45] * dbaron (n=dbaron@gw-public.office.mozilla.org) has joined #microformats
- [03:17:37] * emeyer (n=emeyer@h-69-3-204-125.sfldmidn.dynamic.covad.net) Quit ()
- [03:28:52] * imajes_ (n=imajes@growl/imajes) has joined #microformats
- [03:30:12] * tantek (n=tantek@adsl-63-195-114-133.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) Quit ()
- [03:31:19] * amette__ (n=amette@pD9E6AC81.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #microformats
- [03:32:37] * amette (n=amette@pD9E6AE8E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) Quit (Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable))
- [03:36:10] * valmont (n=chrishol@dsl092-043-004.lax1.dsl.speakeasy.net) has joined #microformats
- [03:38:47] * alexandermuse (n=alexande@c-67-162-230-24.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) has joined #microformats
- [03:39:00] * cori[s]|xchat (n=cori[s]@pdpc/supporter/active/CoriS) Quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out))
- [04:31:23] * alexandermuse (n=alexande@c-67-162-230-24.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) Quit ()
- [04:34:27] * imajes_ (n=imajes@growl/imajes) Quit ()
- [04:35:32] * bergie (n=bergie@cs78246093.pp.htv.fi) has joined #microformats
- [04:35:33] <jibot>
bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
- [04:43:09] * Atamido (n=atamido@cpe-67-9-173-252.austin.res.rr.com) Quit (Excess Flood)
- [04:43:34] * Atamido (n=atamido@cpe-67-9-173-252.austin.res.rr.com) has joined #microformats
- [04:49:20] * cori[s]|xchat (n=cori[s]@pdpc/supporter/active/CoriS) has joined #microformats
- [05:13:28] * drewinthehead (n=drewinth@chauchcr.gotadsl.co.uk) Quit ()
- [05:18:36] * izo_ (n=izo_@boi59-1-82-66-128-84.fbx.proxad.net) Quit ()
- [05:19:19] * bergie (n=bergie@cs78246093.pp.htv.fi) Quit ()
- [05:24:57] * dbaron (n=dbaron@gw-public.office.mozilla.org) Quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host))
- [05:25:56] * dbaron (n=dbaron@gw.office.mozilla.org) has joined #microformats
- [05:53:55] * plaes|railroad is now known as plaes
- [06:01:40] * dbaron (n=dbaron@gw.office.mozilla.org) Quit ("->home")
- [06:05:44] * csarven (i=nevrasc@modemcable153.95-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) Quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
- [06:30:56] * alexandermuse (n=alexande@c-67-162-230-24.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) has joined #microformats
- [06:49:18] * alexandermuse (n=alexande@c-67-162-230-24.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) Quit ()
- [07:04:14] * bergie (n=bergie@kone1.tmvvision.finnetcom.net) has joined #microformats
- [07:04:15] <jibot>
bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
- [07:22:36] * tantek (n=tantek@adsl-63-195-114-133.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) has joined #microformats
- [07:22:37] <jibot>
tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
- [07:23:00] * ChanServ sets mode +o tantek
- [07:28:06] * Jedi_ (n=Jedi@jedi.iem.nctu.edu.tw) has joined #microformats
- [07:28:07] <jibot>
Jedi_ is Jedi <http://Jedi.org/> ( 08:00) and working at Creative Commons Taiwan <http://creativecommons.org.tw/>
- [07:36:09] * evanpro (n=evanpro@pdpc/supporter/silver/evanpro) Quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host))
- [08:00:57] * trovster (n=trov@creation1.plus.com) has joined #microformats
- [08:00:58] <jibot>
trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and helps with www.multipack.co.uk
- [08:13:42] <trovster>
Anyone have a good hReview parser which has support for include
- [08:29:50] * cori[s]|xchat is away: sleeeeeep....
- [08:45:40] * tayzlor (n=gtaylor@nat-fw.london.corp.yahoo.com) has joined #microformats
- [09:35:08] * tantek (n=tantek@adsl-63-195-114-133.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) Quit ()
- [09:39:15] * Whiskey_M (n=Richard@host-84-9-127-20.bulldogdsl.com) has joined #microformats
- [09:39:24] <Whiskey_M>
'lo
- [09:43:25] * dc__ (n=dctanner@bb-87-81-165-34.ukonline.co.uk) has joined #microformats
- [09:45:23] <tayzlor>
hi
- [09:46:14] <trovster>
Did you get the include parsing in anything tayzlor?
- [09:52:53] <tayzlor>
hey trovster ive only been working on the pages locally, so i havent had a chance to see if they will parse using an online parsing tool
- [09:56:28] <tayzlor>
the code seems fine, but the tails extension isnt picking it up :S
- [09:57:15] <trovster>
Mine either, but Tails is basic, and I don't think it has support for include
- [10:10:21] <tayzlor>
hmm
- [10:10:38] <tayzlor>
maybe it is working correctly then, and tails isnt picking it up
- [10:11:01] <tayzlor>
but at the moment i have no way of telling,waiting to get access to yahoo web server to upload my test files
- [10:12:27] <trovster>
Ooooh kay?! I've uploaded some test HTML, but where sa I parse it?
- [10:19:20] <tayzlor>
i guess u can use the hcard parser at technorati to try parse if it is in hcard format
- [10:19:45] <tayzlor>
or maybe http://suda.co.uk/projects/X2V/
- [10:29:28] * gsnedders (n=gsnedder@host81-156-237-58.range81-156.btcentralplus.com) has joined #microformats
- [10:29:29] <jibot>
gsnedders is a 14 year old idiot from Scotland and pretends to have a website at http://geoffers.uni.cc/
- [10:43:51] <trovster>
yeh, but I don't want to put it on technorati, its just dummy text atm
- [11:49:15] * cori[s]|xchat is back (gone 03:19:25)
- [11:51:13] * drewinthehead (n=mclellan@nat-fw.london.corp.yahoo.com) has joined #microformats
- [11:51:14] <jibot>
drewinthehead is Drew McLellan, the author of hKit and the curator of tools.microformatic.com and http://claimid.com/drewmclellan
- [11:51:48] <trovster>
Hey hey drewinthehead.
- [11:52:08] <drewinthehead>
hey .. not stopping ... just getting my MacBook Pro set up
- [11:52:43] * drewinthehead (n=mclellan@nat-fw.london.corp.yahoo.com) has left #microformats
- [11:52:55] * ajturner_ (n=irc@s233-64-126-217.try.wideopenwest.com) has joined #microformats
- [11:55:30] * cori[s] (n=cori@pdpc/supporter/active/CoriS) has joined #microformats
- [11:55:45] * cori[s] (n=cori@pdpc/supporter/active/CoriS) Quit (Remote closed the connection)
- [12:03:34] * cori[s]|xchat (n=cori[s]@pdpc/supporter/active/CoriS) Quit ("bbiab")
- [12:12:44] * drewinthehead (n=mclellan@nat-fw.london.corp.yahoo.com) has joined #microformats
- [12:12:45] <jibot>
drewinthehead is Drew McLellan, the author of hKit and the curator of tools.microformatic.com and http://claimid.com/drewmclellan
- [12:15:02] * csarven (i=nevrasc@modemcable153.95-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #microformats
- [12:15:02] <jibot>
csarven is Sarven Capadisli and can be found online at http://www.csarven.ca
- [12:22:53] <drewinthehead>
?forgetme
- [12:22:53] <jibot>
I have expunged drewinthehead from my mind
- [12:23:39] <trovster>
drewinthehead: Stayin'?
- [12:23:50] <drewinthehead>
?def drewinthehead is the author of hKit
- [12:23:50] <jibot>
drewinthehead is the author of hKit
- [12:24:04] <drewinthehead>
trovster: hopefully
- [12:25:12] <trovster>
Know anything that'll parse included hreview?
- [12:25:30] <drewinthehead>
included as in option-include and a.include?
- [12:25:37] <trovster>
Yup
- [12:26:59] <drewinthehead>
erm ... nope
- [12:27:14] <drewinthehead>
hKit does both include types, but has no hReview profile yet
- [12:27:27] <drewinthehead>
it's on my to-do list
- [12:27:31] <trovster>
Aha, cool.
- [12:27:44] <trovster>
I've got a massive page which loads of uF I wanna parse.
- [12:27:56] <drewinthehead>
that said, does tantek's kitchen not do it?
- [12:28:16] <trovster>
Not putting it on technorati, it's test content
- [12:28:27] <drewinthehead>
ok
- [12:29:18] * Whiskey_M (n=Richard@host-84-9-127-20.bulldogdsl.com) Quit ()
- [12:29:43] <drewinthehead>
feel free to have a stab at writing the hKit profile if you want :)
- [12:30:04] * trovster hasn't got PHP5 here :)
- [12:31:14] <drewinthehead>
ah well. i'm hoping to get to it soon ... it's on the top of my to-do http://microformats.org/wiki/to-do#Drew_McLellan
- [12:31:49] <trovster>
:d
- [12:32:03] <trovster>
Wonder which'll come first, my site or your parser! :)
- [12:52:47] * dc___ (n=dctanner@bb-87-81-165-34.ukonline.co.uk) has joined #microformats
- [12:55:26] * dglazkov (n=dglazkov@adsl-065-081-081-030.sip.bhm.bellsouth.net) has joined #microformats
- [12:55:26] <jibot>
dglazkov is Dimitri Glazkov (http://glazkov.com) and lives in Birmingham, AL, USA (-6:00 GMT)
- [12:55:29] * ChanServ sets mode +o dglazkov
- [12:55:39] <mfbot>
[[hreview-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hreview-fr&diff=0&oldid=7915 * ChristopheDucamp * (+351) Détails des Champs -
- [12:58:20] <mfbot>
[[hreview-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hreview-fr&diff=0&oldid=7916 * ChristopheDucamp * (+17) Critique produit -
- [13:05:02] <mfbot>
[[hreview-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hreview-fr&diff=0&oldid=7917 * ChristopheDucamp * (-31) Critique produit -
- [13:09:24] * dc__ (n=dctanner@bb-87-81-165-34.ukonline.co.uk) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
- [13:09:46] * sreynen (n=sreynen@71-214-242-108.desm.qwest.net) Quit ()
- [13:11:34] * McNulty (n=McNulty@nat-195.157.130.52.maximalls.net) has joined #microformats
- [13:11:35] <jibot>
McNulty is Ciaran McNulty (http://ciaranmcnulty.com)
- [13:12:13] <mfbot>
[[hreview-brainstorming-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hreview-brainstorming-fr&diff=0&oldid=7918 * ChristopheDucamp * (+544) Idées hReview 0.3 -
- [13:12:23] <McNulty>
afternoon
- [13:13:07] <trovster>
http://paste.css-standards.org/1753/view -- only thing I can't check is whether the hreview is using the include correctly.
- [13:14:37] <McNulty>
trovster - not sure your permalink works
- [13:15:34] <McNulty>
and re: the include, I can't find the @id=branding element?
- [13:21:30] <trovster>
<div id="branding" class="author reviewer vcard">
- [13:22:14] <McNulty>
oh I see it now
- [13:22:30] <McNulty>
looks right.
- [13:26:25] * edsu (n=esummers@66.187.134.52) has joined #microformats
- [13:26:26] <jibot>
edsu is Ed Summers from the Library of Congress <http://www.inkdroid.org>
- [13:29:41] * ryanlowe (n=chatzill@CPE00045a734098-CM001225d89e7c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined #microformats
- [13:29:42] <jibot>
ryanlowe is Ryan Lowe, http://www.fanconcert.com
- [13:30:15] * sreynen (n=sreynen@216.81.176.51) has joined #microformats
- [13:30:15] <jibot>
sreynen is Scott Reynen, who makes things at makedatamakesense.com
- [13:46:04] * AdamCraven (n=Gr1m@bb-87-81-108-8.ukonline.co.uk) has joined #microformats
- [13:55:52] * cori[s]|xchat (n=cori[s]@pdpc/supporter/active/CoriS) has joined #microformats
- [14:00:24] * Charl (n=charlvn@net-153-111.mweb.co.za) has joined #microformats
- [14:00:25] <jibot>
Charl is Charl van Niekerk and writes about standards at http://standards.za.net/
- [14:00:48] <trovster>
McNulty: But Tails isn't including it correctly... oh wel
- [14:01:45] <McNulty>
tails doesn't get much right
- [14:01:58] <trovster>
Meh, it's fairly OK to me.
- [14:02:07] <trovster>
Get's a lot of stuff off that page I posted.
- [14:02:46] <McNulty>
It doesn't seem to like things like multiple URLs
- [14:02:51] <McNulty>
at least the version I have
- [14:05:21] * briansuda (n=briansud@h-68-166-252-239.chcgilgm.covad.net) has joined #microformats
- [14:05:21] * ChanServ sets mode +o briansuda
- [14:05:22] <jibot>
briansuda is brian suda of http://suda.co.uk/ and http://claimid.com/briansuda in his freetime he works on the X2V microformats parser (-0600 CST)
- [14:05:31] <trovster>
I'm scared to test all the hfeeds on that page!
- [14:09:21] <drewinthehead>
did you get fragments to work, trovster?
- [14:09:34] <drewinthehead>
pnhChris pointed out that the # needs to be url-encoded
- [14:09:57] <trovster>
not tried
- [14:10:24] <drewinthehead>
by default the # doesn't get sent to the server, it seems. logical but annoying
- [14:10:59] <McNulty>
That probably gets *really* annoying when you're chaining three services together
- [14:12:04] <drewinthehead>
yes, it does
- [14:15:33] <trovster>
What should I use for encoded-# ?
- [14:16:12] <trovster>
why, when I use atom/hatom does it ask me to save a MS-DOS Application?
- [14:16:43] <drewinthehead>
%23 i think
- [14:17:03] <drewinthehead>
because you're using Windows by mistake
- [14:19:22] <McNulty>
trovster - because your IE doesn't know what to do with atom MIME types
- [14:19:34] <trovster>
IE?
- [14:19:44] <trovster>
Do you seriously think I'm using IE?
- [14:19:45] <McNulty>
assuming
- [14:19:49] <McNulty>
Oh, FF?
- [14:20:07] <trovster>
Yes, FF
- [14:20:09] <McNulty>
OK your Firefox doesn't know what to do with Atom MIME types and is handing it off to Windows, which doesn't know either
- [14:21:14] <trovster>
How can I fix FF then/
- [14:22:08] <McNulty>
what do you want it to do?
- [14:22:20] <trovster>
Just show the XML parse tree in FF
- [14:22:40] <McNulty>
I don't believe it'll do that
- [14:22:54] <McNulty>
you could probably write an extension...
- [14:23:19] <trovster>
http://split-s.blogspot.com/2006/04/applicationatomxml-content-type.html :D
- [14:24:02] <McNulty>
I can't imagine there's much code in that
- [14:25:33] * McNulty looks at the source
- [14:25:36] <McNulty>
hah:
- [14:25:37] <McNulty>
if (httpChannel.contentType == 'application/atom+xml') {
- [14:25:37] <McNulty>
httpChannel.contentType = 'text/xml';
- [14:25:37] <McNulty>
}
- [14:26:14] <trovster>
Ok, it displays now, but not as the XML parse tree, instead plain text :@
- [14:26:20] <McNulty>
trovster - thanks for the link.
- [14:27:19] <McNulty>
FF should have a list of MIME types that it a) displays as plain text, b) displays as XML, c) displays as HTML
- [14:33:15] * alexandermuse (n=alexande@63.98.55.146) has joined #microformats
- [14:45:46] * drewinthehead (n=mclellan@nat-fw.london.corp.yahoo.com) Quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer))
- [14:46:14] * drewinthehead (n=mclellan@nat-fw.london.corp.yahoo.com) has joined #microformats
- [14:49:01] * cgriego (n=cgriego@out-02.hotels.com) has joined #Microformats
- [14:49:02] <jibot>
cgriego is Chris Griego (-06:00) and a front-end developer at RD2, Inc.
- [14:54:40] * cgriego (n=cgriego@out-02.hotels.com) has left #Microformats
- [14:56:17] * ryanlowe_ (n=chatzill@CPE00045a734098-CM001225d89e7c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined #microformats
- [14:56:56] * bergie (n=bergie@kone1.tmvvision.finnetcom.net) Quit ()
- [14:57:09] * dc___ (n=dctanner@bb-87-81-165-34.ukonline.co.uk) has left #microformats
- [15:02:33] * ryanlowe (n=chatzill@CPE00045a734098-CM001225d89e7c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) Quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out))
- [15:03:58] * Charl (n=charlvn@net-153-111.mweb.co.za) Quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host))
- [15:17:31] * cori[s]|xchat (n=cori[s]@pdpc/supporter/active/CoriS) Quit ("disk c: full")
- [15:22:28] <qid>
McNulty: text/xml is evil.
- [15:22:38] <qid>
pure unadulterated evil
- [15:22:40] <McNulty>
qid - whuh?
- [15:24:49] <qid>
text/xml means the xml prolog gets ignored, and the character encoding defaults to ASCII
- [15:25:04] <McNulty>
why are you telling me this? ;-)
- [15:26:44] <qid>
the first thing I saw was the code you pasted
- [15:26:47] * cgriego_ (n=cgriego@out-02.hotels.com) has joined #Microformats
- [15:27:04] <McNulty>
qid - oh
- [15:27:20] <McNulty>
I see... that was from a firefox extension trovster was interested in
- [15:27:37] <McNulty>
I agree it's best to serve stuff as an appropriate MIME type
- [15:27:49] <qid>
well, if firefox is RFC3023-compliant, that extension could break all kinds of stuff
- [15:27:56] <McNulty>
trovster wanted something to make Firefox display atom content as an XML tree
- [15:28:04] * cgriego_ (n=cgriego@out-02.hotels.com) has left #Microformats
- [15:28:17] <McNulty>
I had a look at the source and thought it was amusing it was so simple
- [15:30:36] * McNulty googles that RFC, though.
- [15:31:23] <mfbot>
[[rel-tag-ja]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=rel-tag-ja&diff=0&oldid=7919 * Vant * (+112) Encoding issues -
- [15:33:36] <McNulty>
qid - application/xml is better I presume?
- [15:34:17] <qid>
it would be, yes
- [15:34:25] <McNulty>
Maybe I'll email the author
- [15:52:30] * ryanlowe_ is now known as ryanlowe
- [15:58:58] * mlinksva (n=mlinksva@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/mlinksva) has joined #microformats
- [15:58:58] <jibot>
mlinksva is Mike Linksvayer and from Creative Commons
- [16:01:21] * cori[s]|xchat (n=cori[s]@pdpc/supporter/active/CoriS) has joined #microformats
- [16:01:50] * [HAM]BlueMaex (i=bluemaex@atlantis.clan-hammer.net) Quit ("Neustart")
- [16:06:45] <mfbot>
[[hresume]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hresume&diff=0&oldid=7920 * Steve Ganz * (-184) Implementations - Removed Sajid's claim of "100% compliant". Example uses invalid markup.
- [16:17:19] * bergie (n=bergie@cs78246093.pp.htv.fi) has joined #microformats
- [16:17:19] <jibot>
bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
- [16:18:51] * KevinMarks (n=Snak@pdpc/supporter/active/kevinmarks) Quit ("The computer fell asleep")
- [16:22:20] * hober (n=ted@unaffiliated/hober) has joined #microformats
- [16:25:38] * jkj (n=jirka@adsl-lib146-121-244-84.bluetone.cz) has joined #microformats
- [16:26:19] * valmont (n=chrishol@pdpc/supporter/silver/valmont) Quit ()
- [16:30:17] * tayzlor (n=gtaylor@nat-fw.london.corp.yahoo.com) Quit ()
- [16:31:32] * pnhChris (n=cac6982@c-68-39-65-171.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) has joined #microformats
- [16:31:32] <jibot>
pnhChris is Chris Casciano, blogs at http://placenamehere.com/ , and a member of the Web Standards Project.
- [16:33:06] * drewinthehead_ (n=mclellan@nat-fw.london.corp.yahoo.com) has joined #microformats
- [16:33:29] * drewinthehead (n=mclellan@nat-fw.london.corp.yahoo.com) Quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer))
- [16:35:13] * tantek (n=tantek@adsl-63-195-114-133.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) has joined #microformats
- [16:35:14] <jibot>
tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
- [16:35:31] * ChanServ sets mode +o tantek
- [16:48:08] * drewinthehead_ (n=mclellan@nat-fw.london.corp.yahoo.com) Quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out))
- [17:04:24] * kingryan (n=kingryan@dsl092-180-250.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net) has joined #microformats
- [17:04:27] * ChanServ sets mode +o kingryan
- [17:11:18] * bergie (n=bergie@cs78246093.pp.htv.fi) Quit ()
- [17:27:20] * tantek (n=tantek@adsl-63-195-114-133.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) Quit ()
- [17:44:20] * vant (n=vant@FLH1Abe103.isk.mesh.ad.jp) Quit ("Leaving...")
- [17:44:35] * tantek (n=tantek@dsl092-180-250.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net) has joined #microformats
- [17:44:36] <jibot>
tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
- [17:44:53] * ChanServ sets mode +o tantek
- [17:45:15] * dglazkov (n=dglazkov@adsl-065-081-081-030.sip.bhm.bellsouth.net) Quit ()
- [17:49:20] * trovster (n=trov@creation1.plus.com) Quit ()
- [17:56:32] * jkj (n=jirka@adsl-lib146-121-244-84.bluetone.cz) has left #microformats
- [18:14:35] * AdamCraven (n=Gr1m@bb-87-81-108-8.ukonline.co.uk) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
- [18:15:18] * pnhChris is now known as pnhMelted
- [18:18:56] * gsnedders (n=gsnedder@host81-156-237-58.range81-156.btcentralplus.com) Quit ()
- [18:23:54] * mlinksva (n=mlinksva@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/mlinksva) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
- [18:27:45] * zeroseis (n=zeroseis@201.78.180.72) has joined #microformats
- [18:35:17] <zeroseis>
Hi, all. I have this page at http://www.azevedosette.com.br/escritorio/localizacao_ with an hCard. When I try to get the vCard using Technorati converter, it returns an error: "Sorry, http://www.azevedosette.com.br/escritorio/localizacao_ could not be transformed into an vCard file because of XML parser error 4: not well-formed (invalid token) and the error code is 2 check that this page validates", but the HTML validates
- [18:35:17] <zeroseis>
perfectly.
- [18:39:06] <zeroseis>
When the same hCard is alone in a page, the transformation goes OK: http://www.azevedosette.com.br/hcard.html
- [18:39:21] * zeroseis (n=zeroseis@201.78.180.72) has left #microformats
- [18:40:22] * zeroseis (n=zeroseis@201.78.180.72) has joined #microformats
- [18:41:38] <briansuda>
sometimes the error is for other reasons, let me have a look
- [18:46:39] <briansuda>
OK, this link gives me a vCard (http://suda.co.uk/projects/X2V/get-vcard.php?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.azevedosette.com.br%2Fescritorio%2Flocalizacao_)
- [18:47:13] <briansuda>
my guess at why the technorati one doesn't work MIGHT be the '_' at the end, or something else? try encoding it before passing it to technorati
- [18:47:35] <kingryan>
its possible that our tidy implementation is messing things up
- [18:47:41] * kingryan curses tidy
- [18:48:15] <zeroseis>
I'll try without the underscore and see what happens.
- [18:48:35] <zeroseis>
Changing the name of the file.
- [18:53:25] * KevinMarks (n=Snak@dsl092-180-250.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net) has joined #microformats
- [18:53:41] * ChanServ sets mode +o KevinMarks
- [18:55:08] * drewinthehead (n=drewinth@chauchcr.gotadsl.co.uk) has joined #microformats
- [18:55:08] <jibot>
drewinthehead is the author of hKit
- [18:58:08] <zeroseis>
Changing the name of the file didn't work. I'll use the link to X2V at suda.co.uk for this hCard. No problem. Thanks for your help!
- [18:59:43] <kingryan>
I'll take a look at our proxy to try and track down this bug
- [19:00:52] <zeroseis>
OK. If you need to test, the new file is http://www.azevedosette.com.br/escritorio/localizacao2
- [19:20:06] * gsnedders (n=gsnedder@host81-156-237-58.range81-156.btcentralplus.com) has joined #microformats
- [19:20:07] <jibot>
gsnedders is a 14 year old idiot from Scotland and pretends to have a website at http://geoffers.uni.cc/
- [19:53:24] * AdamCraven (n=Gr1m@bb-87-81-108-8.ukonline.co.uk) has joined #microformats
- [19:58:20] * KevinMarks (n=Snak@pdpc/supporter/active/kevinmarks) Quit ("bye")
- [20:00:09] * KevinMarks (n=Snak@dsl092-180-250.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net) has joined #microformats
- [20:00:25] * ChanServ sets mode +o KevinMarks
- [20:22:23] * cori[s]|xchat (n=cori[s]@pdpc/supporter/active/CoriS) Quit ("Death before ?")
- [20:29:14] * hober (n=ted@unaffiliated/hober) Quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer))
- [20:29:31] * hober2 (n=ted@unaffiliated/hober) has joined #microformats
- [20:40:04] <mfbot>
[[to-do]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=to-do&diff=0&oldid=7921 * Tantek * (+904) added tasks for reorganizing examples in the wild sections / pages
- [20:47:16] * alexandermuse (n=alexande@63.98.55.146) Quit ()
- [20:52:41] * hober2 is now known as hober
- [21:01:51] * zeroseis (n=zeroseis@201.78.180.72) Quit ("bye")
- [21:06:08] * ajturner_ (n=irc@s233-64-126-217.try.wideopenwest.com) Quit ()
- [21:12:12] * edsu (n=esummers@66.187.134.52) Quit ("leaving")
- [21:16:46] <mfbot>
[[to-do]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=to-do&diff=0&oldid=7922 * Tantek * (+259) add task to create a summary examples-in-the-wild page
- [21:27:27] * pnhMelted (n=cac6982@c-68-39-65-171.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) Quit ()
- [21:27:41] * sreynen (n=sreynen@216.81.176.51) Quit ()
- [21:41:57] * jakedahn (n=jakedahn@67-40-166-22.mpls.qwest.net) has joined #microformats
- [21:42:24] * sreynen (n=sreynen@71-214-242-108.desm.qwest.net) has joined #microformats
- [21:42:24] <jibot>
sreynen is Scott Reynen, who makes things at makedatamakesense.com
- [21:47:35] * daavid (n=daavid@wkac.ac.uk) has joined #microformats
- [21:47:55] <daavid>
how is microformats related to RDF and the sematicweb?
- [21:48:13] <daavid>
it doesn't seem to use any of the ontology subject-predicate-noun stuff
- [21:49:02] <bewest>
daavid: not Semantic Web
- [21:49:05] <bewest>
the semantic web
- [21:49:29] <bewest>
microformats adds semantic value to existing and widely deployed markup ([x]html)
- [21:49:49] <bewest>
this makes such data consumable by user agents that understand these semantics (very easy to code)
- [21:50:20] <bewest>
while keeping the fidelity in terms of convention, authorship, and human consumption
- [21:50:55] <bewest>
in addition it is easily transformed into formats agents of the Semantic Web understand
- [21:51:16] <daavid>
and RDF does the same and more but is more complicated and not backwards compatible?
- [21:51:33] <kingryan>
yes, daavid
- [21:51:33] <bewest>
hmmm only very roughly the same
- [21:51:42] <kingryan>
if anything, RDF tries to do too much
- [21:51:44] * jakedahn (n=jakedahn@67-40-166-22.mpls.qwest.net) Quit ()
- [21:51:50] <bewest>
the scope of microformats is very different from the scope of RDF
- [21:51:51] <kingryan>
and, in the process, does very little :D
- [21:51:57] <bewest>
so comparing them isn't quite fair
- [21:52:11] <bewest>
but if you were to compare them, that is the correct evaluation :-)
- [21:52:43] <daavid>
so what's the relationship between the w3c and Tim Berners-Lee and microformats? none?
- [21:52:59] <bewest>
w3c and TBL invented html
- [21:53:04] <kingryan>
there are a number of w3c members and employees involved here
- [21:53:11] <bewest>
:-)
- [21:53:25] <kingryan>
tbl came to my talk on microformats at www2006 (but left before I could even get started!)
- [21:53:37] <bewest>
kingryan: ah yeah, you mentioned that
- [21:53:46] <KevinMarks>
tantek channels tbl in his blogposts
- [21:53:49] <KevinMarks>
;)
- [21:54:03] <kingryan>
I was kinda glad he left, bewest
- [21:54:05] <bewest>
I do wonder what TBL thinks of all this
- [21:54:09] <kingryan>
he was unnerving me, sitting in the first row
- [21:54:18] <bewest>
yeah, you mentioned that too... because a large part was a "history of html"?
- [21:54:19] <kingryan>
bewest, ask tantek
- [21:54:27] <kingryan>
well, the first part was
- [21:54:41] <kingryan>
and I gave out the url to the slides before I got started, so tbl got ahead of me before he left
- [21:54:48] <bewest>
tantek: do you happen to know what TBL thinks of microformats?
- [21:54:59] <kingryan>
lol: http://flickr.com/photos/amyvdh/107646215/
- [21:55:01] <bewest>
that's not a good question...
- [21:55:58] <kingryan>
timbl was smiling after tantek talked to him about it: http://flickr.com/photos/tantek/117040672/
- [21:56:40] * jakedahn (n=jakedahn@67-40-166-22.mpls.qwest.net) has joined #microformats
- [21:57:05] * jakedahn (n=jakedahn@67-40-166-22.mpls.qwest.net) Quit (Client Quit)
- [21:58:19] <bewest>
it'd be funny if you were giving a "history of html" presentation and someone like TBL raised his hand and started correcting you ... "ehm... that's not quite right..."
- [21:59:48] <tantek>
bewest, you can see the "history of semantic xhtml" that i gave at the W3C Technical Plenary with TBL and others in attendance here: http://tantek.com/presentations/2006/03/what-are-microformats/
- [22:02:02] <KevinMarks>
did he heckle?
- [22:04:34] * gsnedders (n=gsnedder@host81-156-237-58.range81-156.btcentralplus.com) Quit ()
- [22:05:35] <bewest>
yeah I've seen that presentation
- [22:06:05] * mlinksva (n=mlinksva@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/mlinksva) has joined #microformats
- [22:06:05] <jibot>
mlinksva is Mike Linksvayer and from Creative Commons
- [22:06:19] <bewest>
ok that was fun :-) back to work
- [22:09:40] * remi (n=remi@c207.134.31-221.clta.globetrotter.net) has joined #microformats
- [22:09:40] <jibot>
remi is Remi Prevost, a web developper (yeah, that's how we spell "developer" in french) from Quebec and blogs about web stuff at <http://remiprevost.com/>
- [22:14:17] <daavid>
is there a microformat for store opening hours?
- [22:14:24] <daavid>
if not there should be
- [22:14:57] <kingryan>
daavid: you could use hcalendar
- [22:14:57] <daavid>
that's something i'd love to be able to find quickly by google instead of having to search through some companies cluttered website
- [22:15:38] <tantek>
it's a good question daavid
- [22:15:46] <tantek>
it is something that i want to see too
- [22:16:00] <tantek>
there is no obvious way to do it right now, though several techniques have been brainstormed
- [22:16:12] <tantek>
part of the challenge is that store hours require good repeating events support
- [22:16:15] <bewest>
hcalendar won't work?
- [22:16:22] <bewest>
oh
- [22:16:22] <tantek>
which is one of the weaker parts of iCalendar
- [22:16:47] <tantek>
bewest, hCalenar still needs more details for repeating events in order for web authors to be able to easily create/publish repeating events
- [22:16:52] <daavid>
cool hope you come up with something
- [22:17:09] <tantek>
right now it is *possible*, but requires reading the respective portions of RFC2445 which is a very high barrier
- [22:17:29] <tantek>
daavid - indeed, feel free to add such requests to the "LazyWeb" section of the to-do page:
- [22:17:32] <daavid>
just using hcalender won't make it obvious to e.g a search engine that it's a stores opening hours and not some other event
- [22:17:33] <tantek>
http://microformats.org/wiki/to-do
- [22:18:05] <tantek>
daavid that's right. you need to capture the "store is open" semantic also
- [22:18:17] <daavid>
a listing of stores market with hperson for contact details (can hperson to organizations that are not persons) geo for position and some other format for opening hours
- [22:18:22] <daavid>
now that would be sweet
- [22:18:25] * factoryjoe (n=cmessina@dsl081-073-002.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net) has joined #microformats
- [22:18:33] <bewest>
daavid: agreed :-)
- [22:18:43] <bewest>
daavid: and then of course, some user interface that lets you interact with it
- [22:18:52] <tantek>
yes, hCard can be used for organizations that are not persons
- [22:18:59] <bewest>
"show me all the stores in this area that are open"
- [22:19:13] <tantek>
and that are tagged also
- [22:19:26] <tantek>
show me all the places that server dinner that are open
- [22:19:29] <tantek>
in this area
- [22:19:36] <bewest>
on a map
- [22:19:41] <bewest>
*ahem*
- [22:19:46] <factoryjoe>
see http://austin.adactio.com
- [22:19:48] <tantek>
of course
- [22:19:52] * tantek notes that often restaurants have slightly different "serving" vs. "open" hours.
- [22:19:55] <bewest>
factoryjoe: I've seen that many times
- [22:19:58] <factoryjoe>
;)
- [22:20:09] <bewest>
factoryjoe: I'm working on something that will do that for arbitrary resources
- [22:20:24] <bewest>
factoryjoe: nearwhere.com is a closed garden version of that
- [22:20:36] <bewest>
factoryjoe: it has a database of hcards which get put on a map
- [22:20:50] <factoryjoe>
nice
- [22:20:54] <bewest>
factoryjoe: I want to lose the database and pipe hcards to the interface instead of feeding it from a database
- [22:20:58] <factoryjoe>
we really need frappr for hcard
- [22:21:03] <factoryjoe>
yup
- [22:21:08] <factoryjoe>
bewest++
- [22:21:09] <factoryjoe>
that's the idea
- [22:21:16] <factoryjoe>
html is the new zip file
- [22:21:32] <bewest>
factoryjoe: afaik, once that's done, that combined with DanC's stuff and simile's timeline would basically be your mapendar application
- [22:21:40] <factoryjoe>
actually, it's kind of zip + structure + human readable
- [22:21:49] <factoryjoe>
30boxes.com/map
- [22:21:55] <factoryjoe>
they built a poor man's version
- [22:22:05] <factoryjoe>
simile's timeline?
- [22:22:08] <factoryjoe>
DanC's stuff?
- [22:22:09] <factoryjoe>
links?
- [22:22:11] <bewest>
actually DanC is much closer to putting this all together than I am
- [22:22:13] <bewest>
uh
- [22:22:22] <bewest>
http://simile.mit.edu/timeline
- [22:22:30] <bewest>
and his thing is called
- [22:22:31] <bewest>
uh
- [22:22:32] <bewest>
tabulator
- [22:22:44] <bewest>
which is basically timeline + map
- [22:22:44] <factoryjoe>
DanCederholm?
- [22:22:49] <bewest>
connolly
- [22:23:02] <bewest>
huh?
- [22:23:09] <bewest>
I thought DanC == connolly
- [22:23:18] <kingryan>
bewest is right
- [22:23:28] <bewest>
*phew*
- [22:23:34] <daavid>
hmm i can't register a new user on the microformats wiki
- [22:23:43] <bewest>
daavid: FirstnameLastname
- [22:23:44] <factoryjoe>
ah ha
- [22:23:44] <daavid>
it keeps saying "invalid username"
- [22:23:46] <bewest>
daavid: WikiWord
- [22:23:54] <daavid>
aha thanks
- [22:24:02] <factoryjoe>
bewest: where are you based again?
- [22:24:10] <DanC>
it's not really my stuff. but the tabulator is at http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2005/ajar/ajaw/tab.html (see also recent blog item by timbl http://dig.csail.mit.edu/breadcrumbs/node/153 )
- [22:24:13] <bewest>
San Francisco
- [22:24:23] <bewest>
oh that's timbl?
- [22:24:24] <bewest>
ah
- [22:24:35] <factoryjoe>
ah ok thought so
- [22:24:39] <factoryjoe>
just dbl checking
- [22:24:42] <factoryjoe>
i'm going to boston this weekend
- [22:24:48] <DanC>
timbl and a bunch of students. I help with testing and bug tracking a little.
- [22:24:48] <factoryjoe>
so was wondering if anyone's around to meet up
- [22:24:55] <factoryjoe>
already planning to meet w/ the *other* DanC
- [22:25:09] <bewest>
ah now I remember I didn't get it
- [22:25:13] <DanC>
there can be only one! (on freenode, anyway ;-)
- [22:25:13] <kingryan>
factoryjoe: there's only one DanC
- [22:25:28] <bewest>
the idea is neat, but I don't understand the interface /at all/
- [22:26:18] <bewest>
DanC: silly question: I observed a reference to ~connolly in some python docs. would that be a reference to you?
- [22:26:38] * Zeeshan_M is now known as TBF
- [22:26:40] <DanC>
yes. I've been involved in HTML/HTTP/URI specs since 1991 or os
- [22:26:41] <DanC>
so
- [22:26:49] * TBF is now known as Zeeshan_M
- [22:27:00] <daavid>
some other good ones would be movie starting times on cinemas, program staring times on TV, play starting times at theatres etc.
- [22:27:19] <bewest>
the HTML/URI specs of python?
- [22:27:31] <Zeeshan_M>
Good evening, how does one markup international phone numbers and local ones?
- [22:27:31] <daavid>
i guess all these could be based on hcalender but you want some machine readable flag specifing that it's a "movie", "TV program", "play" etc
- [22:27:37] <kingryan>
daavid: there's already a site with hcalendar for tv show starting times
- [22:27:45] <daavid>
link?
- [22:27:48] <factoryjoe>
kingryan: I disagree, owing that DanCederholm did the mF logo/icon
- [22:28:02] <kingryan>
Zeeshan_M: what distinction is there?
- [22:28:08] <Zeeshan_M>
I wish to markup 'UK: 0870 4999 000 - International: +44 161 444 0638'
- [22:28:34] <mfbot>
[[to-do]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=to-do&diff=0&oldid=7923 * DavidB * (+226) Lazyweb -
- [22:28:43] <kingryan>
factoryjoe: google agrees with me: http://www.google.com/search?q=DanC
- [22:28:59] <kingryan>
just markup the one with the country code
- [22:29:19] <kingryan>
.... Zeeshan_M
- [22:29:20] <Zeeshan_M>
kingryan, I am not sure what clarification you're asking about.
- [22:29:21] <tantek>
Dan Cederholm doesn't go by DanC AFAIK.
- [22:29:27] <tantek>
he goes by simplebits
- [22:29:34] <DanC>
guido (and others) participated in www-talk when he worked on urlparse.py and such. The community was small back then.
- [22:29:39] <Zeeshan_M>
I see, what hCard classes would the international one get?
- [22:29:54] <tantek>
Zeeshan_M, use the hCard creator and find out!
- [22:29:59] <Zeeshan_M>
Ooo!
- [22:30:04] <bewest>
ah I see
- [22:30:05] <tantek>
http://microformats.org/code/hcard/creator
- [22:30:10] <Zeeshan_M>
Thank you
- [22:31:02] <Zeeshan_M>
Mmm, nothing additional
- [22:31:20] <factoryjoe>
alright
- [22:31:24] <factoryjoe>
fine, simplebits it is
- [22:31:42] * briansuda (n=briansud@h-68-166-252-239.chcgilgm.covad.net) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
- [22:33:29] * daavid (n=daavid@wkac.ac.uk) Quit ()
- [22:34:31] <Zeeshan_M>
:(
- [22:34:45] <Zeeshan_M>
Shame that 'intl' isn't a value for tel
- [22:35:03] <Zeeshan_M>
I was doing: <dd class="tel"><span class="type">work</span> <span class="value">0870 4999 000</span><br></dd>
- [22:35:06] <tantek>
Zeeshan_M, all phone numbers are intl
- [22:35:06] <kingryan>
Zeeshan_M: that would violate the DRY principle, no?
- [22:35:18] <Zeeshan_M>
And hoping for a marking for the +044 one
- [22:35:22] <tantek>
just put +Country code in front
- [22:35:22] <Zeeshan_M>
marker
- [22:35:26] <Zeeshan_M>
*nod*
- [22:35:29] <tantek>
don't bother
- [22:35:36] <KevinMarks>
shouldn't it be +44 870 4999 000
- [22:35:37] <tantek>
just always use the "absolute" intl phone number
- [22:35:55] * tantek enters +1.area code numbers into his cell phone
- [22:36:16] * daavid (n=daavid@wkac.ac.uk) has joined #microformats
- [22:36:26] <bewest>
tantek: me too, but this not quite the same
- [22:36:28] <Zeeshan_M>
kingryan, it would yes:>
- [22:36:47] <bewest>
maybe it doesn't matter, but different numbers can have different routing, which can mean different billing
- [22:37:15] <tantek>
bewest, if you find concrete examples of that on the web, add to hcard-brainstorming
- [22:41:42] <Zeeshan_M>
Ok, thank you guys for your hints, have a good evening/day.
- [22:41:48] * Zeeshan_M is now known as Zeeshan_AFK
- [22:42:20] * daavid (n=daavid@wkac.ac.uk) Quit ()
- [22:43:45] <bewest>
meh... a quick search suggests that most of the time phone numbers are always represented locally to the consuming audience
- [22:44:36] <bewest>
I'm browsing citigroup/citibank's website
- [22:44:51] <bewest>
they probably have thousands of offices
- [22:45:04] <bewest>
I see only one case where two numbers are listed for an office
- [22:46:03] <bewest>
http://www.citigroup.com/citigroup/contact/index.htm
- [22:46:10] * bewest wonders who the webmaster there is
- [22:49:23] <kingryan>
webmaster@citigroup.com ?
- [22:56:14] * cori[s]|xchat (n=cori[s]@pdpc/supporter/active/CoriS) has joined #microformats
- [23:19:54] * briansuda (n=briansud@AC93307F.ipt.aol.com) has joined #microformats
- [23:19:54] * ChanServ sets mode +o briansuda
- [23:19:55] <jibot>
briansuda is brian suda of http://suda.co.uk/ and http://claimid.com/briansuda in his freetime he works on the X2V microformats parser (-0600 CST)
- [23:34:45] * factoryjoe (n=cmessina@dsl081-073-002.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net) Quit (Connection timed out)
- [23:47:06] * pnhChris (n=cac6982@c-68-39-65-171.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) has joined #microformats
- [23:47:06] <jibot>
pnhChris is Chris Casciano, blogs at http://placenamehere.com/ , and a member of the Web Standards Project.
These logs were automatically created by mflogbot on
chat.freenode.net
using a modified version of the Java IRC LogBot.
See http://microformats.org/wiki/mflogbot for more information.