IRC Log for #microformats on 2007-02-05
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[[Main Page]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Main_Page&diff=0&oldid=13239 * Drago516 * (+17) changed xHours to operating-hours, added operating-hours-examples
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[[User:Drago516]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:Drago516&diff=0&oldid=13240 * Drago516 * (-36) added operating-hours
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[[hcard-brainstorming-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-brainstorming-fr&diff=0&oldid=13241 * ChristopheDucamp * (+977) ISO/DIS 6709 -
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[[to-do]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=to-do&diff=0&oldid=13242 * Drago516 * (-237) updated my todo
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[[hcard-brainstorming-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-brainstorming-fr&diff=0&oldid=13243 * ChristopheDucamp * (+105) catégorisation de lieux
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[[hcard-brainstorming-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-brainstorming-fr&diff=0&oldid=13244 * ChristopheDucamp * (+274) Questions Ouvertes -
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[[hcard-brainstorming-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-brainstorming-fr&diff=0&oldid=13245 * ChristopheDucamp * (+285) additions aux Post vCard -
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[[hcard-brainstorming-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-brainstorming-fr&diff=0&oldid=13246 * ChristopheDucamp * (+108) Autres méthodes de prévention à considérer -
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[[hcard-brainstorming-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-brainstorming-fr&diff=0&oldid=13247 * ChristopheDucamp * (+112) Tutoriels -
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[[hcard-brainstorming-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-brainstorming-fr&diff=0&oldid=13248 * ChristopheDucamp * (+1) Métadonnées personnes de Wikipedia= -
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[[hcalendar-brainstorming]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=13249 * JeremyBoggs * (-25) hCalendar for timelines -
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[[hcard-brainstorming-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-brainstorming-fr&diff=0&oldid=13250 * ChristopheDucamp * (+195) Noms de composants Ambigus -
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[[hcard-brainstorming-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-brainstorming-fr&diff=0&oldid=13251 * ChristopheDucamp * (+96) Donnée d'encodage Company sous une Business Card (proposition) -
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[[hcard-brainstorming-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-brainstorming-fr&diff=0&oldid=13252 * ChristopheDucamp * (+1) Donnée d'encodage Company sous une Business Card (proposition) -
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[[hcard-brainstorming-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-brainstorming-fr&diff=0&oldid=13253 * ChristopheDucamp * (+203) Optimisation implicite "FN et N" (proposition) -
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[[hcard-brainstorming-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-brainstorming-fr&diff=0&oldid=13254 * ChristopheDucamp * (+99) Suggestions Rejetées -
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[[implementations-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=implementations-fr&diff=0&oldid=13255 * ChristopheDucamp * (+1) typo
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[[implementations-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=implementations-fr&diff=0&oldid=13256 * ChristopheDucamp * (+174) PostNuke -
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[[implementations-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=implementations-fr&diff=0&oldid=13257 * ChristopheDucamp * (+81) Calvin Yu -
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[[implementations-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=implementations-fr&diff=0&oldid=13258 * ChristopheDucamp * (-16) Calvin Yu -
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[[implementations-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=implementations-fr&diff=0&oldid=13259 * ChristopheDucamp * (+123) add Mark West
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[[hresume-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hresume-fr&diff=0&oldid=13260 * ChristopheDucamp * (+256)
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[[hresume-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hresume-fr&diff=0&oldid=13261 * ChristopheDucamp * (+3)
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I would like to create a toolbar for business to acknowledge microformats in html. Anybody know or have any example or prototype to get this data from websites? like Tails or Operator firefox extension
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[[hresume-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hresume-fr&diff=0&oldid=13262 * ChristopheDucamp * (+201)
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[[hresume-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hresume-fr&diff=0&oldid=13263 * ChristopheDucamp * (+150)
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[[hresume-brainstorming-fr]] MN http://microformats.org/wiki/hresume-brainstorming-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+716)
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[[hcard-brainstorming-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-brainstorming-fr&diff=0&oldid=13264 * ChristopheDucamp * (+2) Donnée d'encodage Company sous une Business Card (proposition) -
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[[hcard-examples-in-wild-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-examples-in-wild-fr&diff=0&oldid=13265 * ChristopheDucamp * (+1116) Nouveaux exemples -
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[[hcalendar-examples-in-wild-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar-examples-in-wild-fr&diff=0&oldid=13266 * ChristopheDucamp * (+1860)
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[[hcalendar-examples-in-wild-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar-examples-in-wild-fr&diff=0&oldid=13267 * ChristopheDucamp * (+77) Exemples avec quelques problèmes -
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[[hcalendar-examples-in-wild]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar-examples-in-wild&diff=0&oldid=13268 * Posaune * (+187) New Examples -
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[[hcard-examples-in-wild]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-examples-in-wild&diff=0&oldid=13269 * Posaune * (+222) New Examples -
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[[include-pattern-examples-in-wild]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=include-pattern-examples-in-wild&diff=0&oldid=13270 * Posaune * (+315) Examples -
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[[geo]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=geo&diff=0&oldid=13271 * Posaune * (+233) Examples in the wild -
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http://www.xmlrip.com/ -new domain I just thought of - suggestions welcome...
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heh
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on clientend perhaps?
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[[events]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events&diff=0&oldid=13272 * ChristopheDucamp * (-1)
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[[geo-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=geo-fr&diff=0&oldid=13273 * ChristopheDucamp * (+254) exemples dans la jungle -
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[[rel-tag-faq-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=rel-tag-faq-fr&diff=0&oldid=13274 * ChristopheDucamp * (+2891)
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[[Template:AwaitingAnswer-fr]] MN http://microformats.org/wiki/Template:AwaitingAnswer-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+17)
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[[Template:AwaitingAnswer-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Template:AwaitingAnswer-fr&diff=0&oldid=13275 * ChristopheDucamp * (+102)
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[[include-pattern-examples-in-wild-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=include-pattern-examples-in-wild-fr&diff=0&oldid=13276 * ChristopheDucamp * (+371)
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[[picoformats-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=picoformats-fr&diff=0&oldid=13277 * ChristopheDucamp * (+157) Syntaxes Documentées -
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[[hreview-profile]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hreview-profile&diff=0&oldid=13278 * DannyAyers * (+109) link to XMPD profile first pass
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[[hcalendar-profile]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar-profile&diff=0&oldid=13279 * DannyAyers * (+34) moved XMDP profile link up the page
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[[spread-microformats]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=spread-microformats&diff=0&oldid=13280 * Tantek * (+207)
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[[spread-microformats]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=spread-microformats&diff=0&oldid=13281 * Tantek * (+55) Video -
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[[mixd-syntax-fr]] MN http://microformats.org/wiki/mixd-syntax-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+1777)
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[[tfl-syntax-fr]] MN http://microformats.org/wiki/tfl-syntax-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+1086)
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[[plazes-syntax-fr]] MN http://microformats.org/wiki/plazes-syntax-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+2800)
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[[rel-tag-issues-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=rel-tag-issues-fr&diff=0&oldid=13282 * ChristopheDucamp * (+2074)
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[[rel-tag-issues-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=rel-tag-issues-fr&diff=0&oldid=13283 * ChristopheDucamp * (+3)
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[[rel-tag-faq-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=rel-tag-faq-fr&diff=0&oldid=13285 * ChristopheDucamp * (+26)
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[[hcard-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-fr&diff=0&oldid=13286 * ChristopheDucamp * (-19) Optimisation implicite "n" -
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hm. i'm whipping up a quick-ish set of test data for XFN, and wondering if i should include every possible compbination of relationships
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or only ones that "make sense"
- [15:07:11] <monkinetic>
for example, "contact sweetheart" is pretty unlikly, though possible i guess.
- [15:07:39] <monkinetic>
as opposed to "friend sweetheart" which is more likely to appear in the wild
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is the "contact" of a hresume necessarily the person the resume is about, or could that be two different persons...?
- [15:52:05] <bengee>
iow, could the contact be an agency or an outplacement dude?
- [15:54:07] <briansuda>
contact:: Current contact info in an hCard. Should use <address> with hCard when possible.
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- [15:58:30] <monkinetic>
bengee: i think that contact can be used anywhere in an hresume an hcard can be
- [15:58:46] <monkinetic>
it could be the person the hresume is for, or a reference, perhaps
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- [15:59:10] <bengee>
thx
- [16:00:19] <bengee>
I guess it'd make sense. There are job sites where you can publish your skills, but in order to contact the person, you have to go through the site maitainers...
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monkinetic - it is the person themselves.
- [16:28:43] <tantek>
the agency/outplacement case was decided to be outside the 80/20 and thus left out of v1
- [16:28:57] <bengee>
yay!
- [16:29:08] <bengee>
that simplifies a lot :)
- [16:29:17] <tantek>
plus I think we decided at the time that if you really wanted that you could use the AGENT property to represent an agency/outplacement dude.
- [16:29:45] <bengee>
ah, right
- [16:29:54] <tantek>
no need to reinvent that ;)
- [16:30:17] <bengee>
perfecto
- [16:31:13] <tantek>
bengee - could you add that Q&A to the hResume FAQ? http://microformats.org/wiki/hresume-faq
- [16:31:59] <bengee>
yeah, can do
- [16:32:39] <bengee>
I'll hopefully add some implementation links later this week, I can do it then, if that's still ok..
- [16:33:02] <monkinetic>
tantek - I've just finished a prelim XFN test document, would you mind looking it over? http://deliciouslymeta.com/projects/xfn/test_data.html
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it should represent the majority of valid and invlaid relationships
- [16:34:02] <monkinetic>
well, it does not test 3 component relationships.
- [16:34:21] <monkinetic>
but it covers the simple cases
- [16:35:44] <tantek>
typo: co-resident + beighbor
- [16:36:22] <tantek>
the invalid me+ relationships are a bit humorous
- [16:37:06] <tantek>
I suppose some of them could be valid in the case of time travel, but I would assert that's outside the 80/20.
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me + muse - a person could be their own inspiration?
- [16:38:36] <tantek>
me + crush/date/sweetheart - a narcissist could use these - again, probably outside the 80/20.
- [16:40:30] <tantek>
the fragment ID destinations don't appear to exist - I'm not sure that makes for a very good test
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you may actually need several documents to test this properly so you can test symmetric / relationships etc.
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Hello there.
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- [19:46:43] <bluesmoon>
looks like everyone else is too
- [19:47:15] * Sevensor just found out about microformats from his "HTML Mastery" book.
- [19:48:29] <bluesmoon>
interesting
- [19:52:12] <Sevensor>
It's quite the good book, I must say.
- [19:52:43] <Sevensor>
It definitely sparked my interest in this microformat stuff.
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- [19:58:04] * bluesmoon hasn't read an HTML book
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Sevensor, where are you from?
- [19:59:52] <Sevensor>
Ah well it's not necessarily a book on the basics, it's mostly about semantic/accessible HTML coding.
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bluesmoon: Bellevue, WA, USA.
- [20:00:41] <bluesmoon>
ok, that's north west right?
- [20:00:49] <Sevensor>
Yep, right next to Seattle.
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- [20:01:38] <bluesmoon>
k. I'm from India
- [20:02:17] <Sevensor>
Ah nice. :)
- [20:02:56] <bluesmoon>
have you tried using any microformats?
- [20:03:20] <Sevensor>
Not yet. I only just started reading about them last night after purchasing the book. I don't have any sites I can apply them to unfortunately.
- [20:03:59] <bluesmoon>
ok, apply them to your resume - i did that for my girlfriend
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- [20:05:35] <kingryan>
Sevensor: you don't have a personal site?
- [20:05:38] <kingryan>
contact info?
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- [20:06:14] <bluesmoon>
kingryan, I don't have a personal site either
- [20:06:49] <Sevensor>
kingryan: I have a LinkedIn profile, that's it for me at the moment. :)
- [20:07:10] <Sevensor>
And I'm developing http://sevensor.com/ currently, but that is a company site.
- [20:07:49] <kingryan>
does it have contact info?
- [20:08:31] <Sevensor>
It will when I get that page built out, depending on my work schedule, that might be the middle of the week.
- [20:08:39] <bluesmoon>
Sevensor, a company site is a good candidate for microformats
- [20:08:59] <bluesmoon>
you'll have contact info, addresses, vcards, geo info, etc.
- [20:09:00] <Sevensor>
Actually, the "company" site is really only going to be a single page..
- [20:09:19] * Sevensor nods. Ah good.
- [20:09:43] <bluesmoon>
and it's a good complement for semantic markup
- [20:10:36] <Sevensor>
Basically the site is going to be a landing page that will link to the upcoming various sites we're developing.
- [20:11:06] <Sevensor>
So it really only needs to be a single page, so I suppose that would be a nice candidate for applying microformats.
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[[events/2007-02-07-web-directions-north]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events/2007-02-07-web-directions-north&diff=0&oldid=13292 * JacksonWilkinson * (+22)
- [20:14:07] <bluesmoon>
Sevensor, once you get into using microformats, it becomes second nature
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- [20:14:29] <Sevensor>
Cool. :) I'm looking forward to extending my upcoming apps with them.
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Welcome back kingryan.
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ok, i'm getting sleepy now
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Seems like a pretty quiet room, everyone busy at work then? :)
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maybe the bosses are lurking in here too
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- [22:08:48] * Sevensor chuckles.
- [22:11:25] <Sevensor>
I think if I showed my team leader microformats, they might be interested in me pursuing it, so me being in here could be a good thing. :)
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- [22:19:19] <kingryan>
Sevensor is right, we all have work to do :D
- [22:23:13] <Sevensor>
What sort of work do you do kingryan?
- [22:23:54] <kingryan>
software engineering for technorati
- [22:24:31] <Sevensor>
Ah nice! You know, I should really get more into the blog scene. I've never had one nor have I ever subscribed to any.
- [22:25:47] <Sevensor>
I'm a decent enough writer, I just don't really know what I'd say. :)
- [22:27:04] <Sevensor>
Maybe I could talk about my "discovery" of microformats, haha.
- [22:27:46] <Sevensor>
"It was a dark and stormy night. I lay in bed, "HTML Mastery" clutched in my hands. I slowly turned the pages, when all of a sudden..."
- [22:28:02] <kingryan>
that'd be awesome
- [22:28:49] <Prometheus^>
Sevensor: I'm sure you could come up with more content the more become involved with it ;)
- [22:28:49] <Sevensor>
A little less Poe and a bit more Thoreau perhaps. ;)
- [22:29:04] <Prometheus^>
I'm in a similar situation, never blogged, but been a stalker of few blogs
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If I do read blogs, it's mostly the blogs of my services I subscribe to like Media Temple, Joyent, and a few others.
- [22:30:25] <Prometheus^>
the blog would provide an excellent sandbox for all things web, though :)
- [22:30:45] <Prometheus^>
everything from microformats to ajax ^^
- [22:30:45] <Sevensor>
I'd like to find some interesting ones of some people in the new internet scene.
- [22:30:55] <Sevensor>
Ah see, I'm not that technically savy.
- [22:31:47] <Sevensor>
At least for being a web developer that is.
- [22:31:50] <Prometheus^>
my problem is to think of a name for the blog, though ;)
- [22:32:02] * Sevensor chuckles.
- [22:32:08] <Prometheus^>
all the ones I would like to have been taken :(
- [22:32:13] <Sevensor>
Well, my name isn't all that original I suppose.
- [22:32:51] <Sevensor>
The "sor" part of the name is short for "Seas of Rhye".
- [22:32:59] <Sevensor>
I'm a huge Queen fan. :)
- [22:34:42] <Prometheus^>
ah well, I'll come up with something when time is right
- [22:34:58] <Prometheus^>
time to call it a night though, laters folks :)
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- [22:35:06] <Sevensor>
Have a good ni...
- [22:35:10] * Sevensor smiles.
- [22:35:13] <Sevensor>
Beat me to it!
- [22:36:38] <Sevensor>
kingryan: I'll let you know when I get the blog up and running. :)
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- [22:59:01] <JamieKnight>
hiya,
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Hello.
- [23:04:57] <JamieKnight>
hiya, how be you
- [23:07:35] <Sevensor>
I'm well, a boring day at work but other than that, quite pleasant.
- [23:07:37] <Sevensor>
Yourself?
- [23:08:09] <JamieKnight>
i am okay, been playing about with the new design for my site
- [23:08:16] <JamieKnight>
got to loce fireworks
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- [23:09:33] <Sevensor>
Ah nice.
- [23:10:02] <JamieKnight>
i am working tommrow on "work" sites
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[[rel-tag-faq]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=rel-tag-faq&diff=0&oldid=13294 * Chris Messina * (-34) Straightening quotes
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[[rel-tag-faq]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=rel-tag-faq&diff=0&oldid=13295 * Chris Messina * (+245) Adding existing behavior summary to multi-word tag question
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