IRC Log for #microformats on 2007-03-30

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  33. [04:01:05] <jibot> redmonk is Steve Ivy, http://redmonk.net and is linklogging at http://deliciouslymeta.com
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  45. [05:23:50] <jibot> tylerr is Tyler Roehmholdt and is brewing up something social.
  46. [05:24:03] <tylerr> ?forgetme
  47. [05:24:03] <jibot> I have expunged tylerr from my mind
  48. [05:24:07] <tylerr> Go away jibot, haha.
  49. [05:24:17] <tylerr> I've told you how many times to forget that? :-)
  50. [05:29:35] <thecrypto> I had to set it to something else beforeit work forget me
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  52. [05:36:39] <tylerr> Ah that might do the trick.
  53. [05:40:15] <tylerr> ?def is Tyler Roehmholdt and involves himself in the HTML WG and WaSP-related advocacy.
  54. [05:40:15] <jibot> I need at least 3 words with an 'is' in the middle
  55. [05:40:30] <tylerr> Hrm...
  56. [05:41:35] <tylerr> Ah
  57. [05:42:13] <tylerr> ?def tylerr is Tyler Roehmholdt and involves himself in the HTML WG and WaSP-related advocacy.
  58. [05:42:13] <jibot> tylerr is Tyler Roehmholdt and involves himself in the HTML WG and WaSP-related advocacy.
  59. [05:42:21] <tylerr> Perfect. :-)
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  66. [06:58:56] <mfbot> [[irc-people]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=irc-people&diff=0&oldid=15041 * Bug-E * (+31)
  67. [06:59:04] <Bug-E> *beam*
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  80. [08:01:49] <jibot> trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and helps with www.multipack.co.uk
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  82. [08:28:30] <mfbot> [[buttons]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=buttons&diff=0&oldid=15042 * AndyMabbett * (+4) Microformats Logos - correction
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  86. [08:48:01] <jibot> danja is Danny Ayers, http://dannyayers.com
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  95. [09:21:06] <jibot> bengee is Benjamin Nowack (http://bnode.org/)
  96. [09:26:33] <mfbot> [[templates]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=templates&diff=0&oldid=15043 * AndyMabbett * (+415) any more?
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  98. [09:28:19] <mfbot> [[templates]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=templates&diff=0&oldid=15044 * AndyMabbett * (+244)
  99. [09:29:10] <mfbot> [[templates]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=templates&diff=0&oldid=15045 * AndyMabbett * (+4)
  100. [09:29:31] <mfbot> [[templates]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=templates&diff=0&oldid=15046 * AndyMabbett * (+2) Wiki buttons -
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  102. [09:33:11] <jibot> iand is Ian Davis who blogs at http://iandavis.com/blog
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  105. [10:27:36] <jibot> julianstahnke is Julian Stahnke and works for last.fm and implements microformats wherever he can
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  108. [10:38:55] <mfbot> [[geo]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=geo&diff=0&oldid=15047 * AndyMabbett * (+573) Examples in the wild - Wikipedia!!!!
  109. [10:39:26] <mfbot> [[geo]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=geo&diff=0&oldid=15048 * AndyMabbett * (+1) Examples in the wild -
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  113. [10:53:42] <jibot> bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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  116. [11:29:44] <mfbot> [[advocacy]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=advocacy&diff=0&oldid=15049 * AndyMabbett * (+218) Geo - Flagr
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  120. [11:37:20] <mfbot> [[User:LaurentLunati]] MN http://microformats.org/wiki/User:LaurentLunati * LaurentLunati * (+156)
  121. [11:40:52] <mfbot> [[hcard-examples-in-wild-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-examples-in-wild-fr&diff=0&oldid=15050 * LaurentLunati * (+62) /*add link*/
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  123. [11:43:28] <mfbot> [[advocacy]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=advocacy&diff=0&oldid=15051 * AndyMabbett * (+183) Geo - Upcoming - request needs votes --------------------------!!
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  128. [11:56:51] <jibot> davecardwell is Dave Cardwell of http://davecardwell.co.uk/. He designs webs and generally geeks about in York, England.
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  131. [11:57:59] <mfbot> [[advocacy]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=advocacy&diff=0&oldid=15052 * AndyMabbett * (-60) Geo - rm. defunct link
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  135. [12:08:26] <mfbot> [[User talk:LaurentLunati]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/User_talk:LaurentLunati * AndyMabbett * (+11) Welcome!
  136. [12:12:52] <mfbot> [[hcard-examples-in-wild-fr]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-examples-in-wild-fr&diff=0&oldid=15053 * AndyMabbett * (+27) Exemples pour se conformer - West Midland Bird Club translation - please correct if not good!
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  139. [12:19:44] <jibot> Kilianvalkhof is Kilian Valkhof, he makes websites and blogs at http://kilianvalkhof.com
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  146. [12:36:44] <mfbot> [[hreview-examples-in-wild]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hreview-examples-in-wild&diff=0&oldid=15054 * DanChampion * (+102)
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  148. [12:43:00] <mfbot> [[media-info-examples]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=media-info-examples&diff=0&oldid=15055 * ManuSporny * (+152) Service publishing of video -
  149. [12:43:46] <mfbot> [[media-info-examples]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=media-info-examples&diff=0&oldid=15056 * ManuSporny * (+126) Service publishing of photos -
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  152. [12:47:10] <jibot> briansuda is brian suda of http://suda.co.uk and is at (-0000 GMT) and is author of "Using Microformats" for O'Reilly [http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/microformats/]
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  154. [12:50:52] <mfbot> [[User talk:DanChampion]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/User_talk:DanChampion * AndyMabbett * (+94) Hi, Dan
  155. [12:54:53] <mfbot> [[advocacy]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=advocacy&diff=0&oldid=15057 * AndyMabbett * (+61) Geo - flagr will "talk it over internally"
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  158. [12:56:30] <mfbot> [[advocacy-email-samples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=advocacy-email-samples&diff=0&oldid=15058 * AndyMabbett * (+39) Geo 1 - You can use other elements than span.
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  163. [13:15:01] <jibot> mkaply is Michael Kaply <http://www.kaply.com/weblog/> and is the developer of Operator <https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/4106/>
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  166. [13:18:40] <jibot> Mr_Elusive is not a programmer from id but makes his home at http://eswat.ca
  167. [13:19:36] <mfbot> [[hcard-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=15059 * Brian * (+276) Added information about LABEL property for ADRs with no children
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  175. [14:29:07] <AGraf``> in hCard, when i want to specify two urls for a person, can i define which is the work url and which is the private url?
  176. [14:30:39] <briansuda> no, URL doesn't have TYPE properties
  177. [14:30:55] <AGraf``> i noticed that...
  178. [14:30:55] <AGraf``> hm
  179. [14:31:06] <AGraf``> can i otherwise make a url preferred?
  180. [14:31:23] <briansuda> you can order them in the way you like
  181. [14:31:24] <AGraf``> at the moment, parsers use the first specified url as the preferred one
  182. [14:31:38] <AGraf``> I'm marking up a fragment of text....
  183. [14:31:44] <briansuda> there isn't any sort of "prefered", but yes the first would be best
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  186. [14:56:15] <mkaply> when people are referring to say "given-name" do they say it is a sub property of "n" or a property of "n"
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  197. [15:27:04] <jibot> DanC is Dan Connolly http://www.w3.org/People/Connolly/
  198. [15:27:22] <DanC> so we've got hCard on http://www.w3.org/Consortium/contact now. what cool things can I do with it?
  199. [15:28:00] <AGraf``> you can submit it to http://pingerati.net/
  200. [15:28:15] <AGraf``> then it will show up in technorati
  201. [15:28:38] <DanC> hmm...
  202. [15:28:40] <DanC> N:;;;;
  203. [15:29:13] <tantek> also, add an "Add to Address Book" link
  204. [15:32:17] <DanC> I think the empty N problem is kinda critical.
  205. [15:32:21] <DanC> (fyi, discussion: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/site-comments/2007Mar/0009.html )
  206. [15:33:34] <DanC> oh... FN;LANGUAGE=en-US;CHARSET=UTF-8:MIT
  207. [15:41:39] <mkaply> DanC: which one is getting an empty N?
  208. [15:42:05] <mkaply> it should have an empty N. It's an org
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  212. [15:46:47] <DanC> an "add to addressbook" link would involve either outsourcing to technorati (not something we do lightly) or using our XSLT service with the xhtml2vcard.xsl from X2V
  213. [15:47:15] <DanC> we're using xhtml2vcard.xsl by reference in a small-scale hack. I recommended that the systems guys make a local copy, but I think they chose not to
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  226. [16:22:22] <tantek> DanC, then perhaps use the Technorati link as a "temporary" measure until your systems guys make a local copy
  227. [16:22:48] <tantek> that way it's easy to explain away (it's only a temporary measure, the plan is to host it on W3C itself)
  228. [16:22:54] <tantek> but people are still able to use it immediately
  229. [16:23:32] <tantek> it's not like it's a branded searchbox on the home page or anything, especially one that leads to an invalid HTML page of results ;)
  230. [16:26:13] <DanC> that branded search box took something like 5 years of internal discussions to get there.
  231. [16:26:57] <DanC> (4 years of somewhat clueless ignorance of the importance of search boxes, 6 months of panic, and 6 months to resign ourselves to whatever they offer.)
  232. [16:27:16] <DanC> (for me, anyway)
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  249. [17:12:03] <mfbot> [[citation-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=15060 * Mike * (+134) change dtpublished to date-published in book example, as per mailing list discussion
  250. [17:14:19] <mfbot> [[citation-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=15061 * Mike * (-806) Citing a conference publication - updated date-published and 'title' fields
  251. [17:16:15] <mfbot> [[citation-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=15062 * Mike * (+49) Citing a conference publication - fix markup in example
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  255. [17:24:17] <mfbot> [[citation-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=15063 * Mike * (-61) edit conf. pres. example to be valid xhtml snippet and make more readable
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  260. [17:40:53] <mfbot> [[citation-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=15064 * Mike * (+981) Citing a journal article - add journal article example
  261. [17:46:46] <mkaply> Does it seem useful to folks that when you have Javascript structure that represents a microformats, you can do "instanceof hCard" for example?
  262. [17:47:03] <mkaply> should my JS objects that represent microformats be instances of those microformats
  263. [17:50:09] <bewest> mkaply: only if it's loosely coupled to the parsing stuff
  264. [17:50:54] <mkaply> bewest: It's very loose. basically instead of doing var foo = {}, I created some empty functions and do foo = new hCard
  265. [17:51:18] <mkaply> I'm just trying to decide if thats genuinely useful.
  266. [17:51:40] <mkaply> the problem with it is it "pollutes" the global namespace
  267. [17:53:16] <bewest> so scope it under mf or something :-)
  268. [17:53:23] <bewest> new mf.hCard
  269. [17:53:26] <bewest> or operator
  270. [17:53:30] <bewest> new operator.hCard
  271. [17:54:19] <mkaply> Unfortunately we're not sure what Firefox 3 is going to do yet. Might help some of these thoughs
  272. [17:55:01] <DanC> I'm playing with the idea of a local web design meetup. http://webdesign.meetup.com/448/ . any reactions/advice?
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  274. [17:56:05] <mkaply> wow. meetup tries with their microformats but gets about 25% there
  275. [17:57:47] <bewest> DanC: interesting... what's the format?
  276. [17:57:49] * DanC added a photo, http://www.jacek.cz/photos/2004-cannes/p3020958.jpg
  277. [17:58:14] <DanC> "I'm willing to seed the discussions with presentations about W3C, Web Architecture, history, HTML standards process, etc. at future meetups, but this first time, let's just chat."
  278. [17:59:33] <bewest> you might want to add how long you expect it to last
  279. [18:00:07] <bewest> at 12pm, most people will want to know so they can inform the people they work with how long they'll be out
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  282. [18:01:53] <DanC> well, I was thinking it would last until people got bored and wandered off
  283. [18:02:09] <DanC> an hour is sort of an implicit default
  284. [18:02:28] <DanC> I'll mull it over a bit
  285. [18:02:48] <DanC> I'm not sure 2 weeks notice is enough to circulate the idea thru the meetup.com world
  286. [18:05:50] <mfbot> [[citation-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=15065 * AndyMabbett * (+385) Another use case: Facilitate conversion of citation formats
  287. [18:07:41] <mfbot> [[citation-brainstorming]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=15066 * AndyMabbett * (-17) simplify my last
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  301. [18:25:38] <mfbot> [[presentations]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=presentations&diff=0&oldid=15067 * Brian * (+254) Added Feb SkillSwap video
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  326. [19:39:51] <thecrypto> Microformats book?
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  328. [19:40:57] <cgriego> John Allsopp'http://microformats.org/wiki/books
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  330. [19:49:18] <ichigo> after some hours of nearly going insane i figured out what went wrong with my attempt to get attachment_fu running: apparently my connection was flawy and i only installed about 1/3 of the attachment_fu files. ^^ but it took me that long to figure it out. :D
  331. [19:49:55] <ichigo> sry wrong channel
  332. [19:49:56] <ichigo> ;)
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  358. [21:02:00] <ianbicking> I was looking at this: http://www.webposible.com/microformatos-dublincore/microformats_dublin-core.html
  359. [21:02:36] <ianbicking> but there's nothing on microformats.org that seems quite like that (declaring some Dublin Core metadata for a resource)
  360. [21:03:12] <ianbicking> but maybe I'm not seeing it... is there something applicable that I'm missing for adding metadata like this?
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  365. [21:05:42] <ianbicking> citation formats also seem similar
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  369. [21:13:43] <mfbot> [[press]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=press&diff=0&oldid=15068 * AndyMabbett * (+159) Feb 2007 - GCN
  370. [21:14:44] <tantek> ianbicking, Dublin Core is good as an example of a previous format, but that by itself is insufficient for creating a microformat, especially in a case where there are numerous other previous formats ("citation")
  371. [21:14:55] <tantek> it is documented on citation-formats on the wiki
  372. [21:15:02] <tantek> among others
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  374. [21:15:36] <jibot> tylerr is Tyler Roehmholdt and involves himself in the HTML WG and WaSP-related advocacy.
  375. [21:16:04] <ianbicking> tantek: is there a specific format that you'd recommend?
  376. [21:16:08] <tylerr> Ah success! Our IA team just returned from the IA summit in Las Vegas and uF was all the rage and now everyone wants to know about them on the team.
  377. [21:16:44] <tantek> ianbicking for what type of data? could you provide a URL?
  378. [21:16:47] <ianbicking> I think one of the things we want to do is annotate a database of a bunch of scanned PDF books
  379. [21:16:52] <tantek> tylerr - excellent!
  380. [21:16:58] <ianbicking> tantek: here's an example: http://dev.laptop.org/pub/content/library/literature/
  381. [21:17:25] <tylerr> tantek: I'll be pointing them to your Web Directions North slides.
  382. [21:17:27] <bewest> we need some IA help on the wiki :-)
  383. [21:17:34] <ianbicking> I think that's a mockup
  384. [21:17:57] <tylerr> bewest: I'll talk to one of our taxonomists, she's great at organizing that sort of stuff.
  385. [21:18:11] <tylerr> She's the one that approached me and wants to do lunch next week over uF. :-)
  386. [21:18:23] <tantek> ianbicking - looks like citation is the closest
  387. [21:18:38] <tantek> i'd say take a look at citation-brainstorming to see what the current state of proposals are
  388. [21:18:49] <tantek> and try experimenting with them and report back how well they work (or don't work) for you
  389. [21:18:55] <bewest> neat
  390. [21:19:06] <tantek> bewest, indeed
  391. [21:20:44] <tylerr> You know... when I get some free time (never), I should look into an hIdea concept, there are all these online collaborative idea sharing/mind-mapping tools nowadays, those could benefit from having a good uF to support them.
  392. [21:21:24] <ianbicking> tantek: do you have any opinion about hBib? (was linked on the list recently: https://misc.iupr.org/docs/doku.php?id=pub:hocr:bibtex-microformat )
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  395. [21:23:06] * ianbicking things the hBib examples feel a little weird in places
  396. [21:23:35] <tantek> ianbicking - I believe I gave my opinion on hBib on the -new list
  397. [21:23:57] <tantek> namely that it ignored the process and the existing citation work
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  403. [21:33:51] <ianbicking> it seems like they'd like to start producing content, and the existing material around citation feels very chaotic
  404. [21:34:51] <ianbicking> perhaps it would make sense for us to take a rough sense of what hcite is now, and create a local microformat (class my-org-hcite or somesuch)
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