IRC Log for #microformats on 2005-12-18

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  2. [00:07:54] <jibot> kingryan is ryan king
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  5. [00:18:14] <jibot> bkdelong is B.K. DeLong, Head Research Analyst for HALO Worldwide - http://www.haloworldwide.com. Web: http://www.brain-stream.com. Email: bkdelong@pobox.com - Is At ApacheCon
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  12. [02:10:01] <mfbot> [[Talk:Main Page]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Talk:Main_Page&diff=0&oldid=3374 * Medsboy * (+15352)
  13. [02:10:12] <mfbot> [[Main Page]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Main_Page&diff=0&oldid=3375 * Medsboy * (+15352)
  14. [02:51:56] <gavin_s> seems like that attempt at spam was somewhat unsuccessful
  15. [02:53:15] * gavin_s isn't sure why
  16. [04:05:46] <mfbot> [[Special:Log/block]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Special:Log/block&diff=0&oldid=0 * Tantek * (+0) blocked "User:Medsboy" with an expiry time of 10000 hours: spammer go home
  17. [04:06:02] <mfbot> [[Talk:Main Page]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Talk:Main_Page&diff=0&oldid=3376 * Tantek * (-15352) Reverted edit of Medsboy, changed back to last version by RyanKing
  18. [04:06:13] <mfbot> [[Main Page]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Main_Page&diff=0&oldid=3377 * Tantek * (-15352) Reverted edit of Medsboy, changed back to last version by Charles
  19. [04:06:21] <tantek> byebye Medsboy.
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  26. [06:18:18] <fuzzyBSc> Theoretically, we're all supposed to use profile specifiers in our head nodes... so where can I find the profile URI for hcard, hatom, etc? Are they just the wiki pages that define each?
  27. [06:20:00] * TantekC (n=Tantek@ppp-71-139-3-146.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) has joined #microformats
  28. [06:20:44] <fuzzyBSc> Oh, never mind. I've figured it out.
  29. [06:27:52] <TantekC> greetings
  30. [06:30:30] <GabeW> :-)
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  33. [07:00:24] <fuzzyBSc> Hello :)
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  35. [07:44:00] <mfbot> [[media-metadata-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=media-metadata-examples&diff=0&oldid=3378 * Charles * (+327) Edited introductory paragraph "purpose" paragraph for increase of scope of this page. (Maybe this page should be renamed to media-examples.)
  36. [08:28:32] <Frederic> hello
  37. [09:30:00] * rav- (n=serdar@210.84.58.58) has joined #microformats
  38. [09:30:00] <jibot> rav- is Serdar Kilic and blogging at http://weblog.kilic.net/
  39. [09:42:09] <mfbot> [[media-metadata-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=media-metadata-examples&diff=0&oldid=3379 * Charles * (+4765) Creating "formats and protocols" section to act as a kind of glossary of the different formats we need to consider. (Might need some organization here.)
  40. [09:47:20] <mfbot> [[media-metadata-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=media-metadata-examples&diff=0&oldid=3380 * Charles * (+43) Added "Container Formats" sub-section
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  42. [09:48:03] <jibot> bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
  43. [10:07:51] <mfbot> [[media-metadata-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=media-metadata-examples&diff=0&oldid=3381 * Charles * (+254) Added stuff to "Container Formats"
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  47. [10:45:17] <jibot> bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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  49. [10:53:01] <jibot> RobertBachmann is in Austria
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  52. [13:40:33] <mfbot> [[hbib]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/hbib * Johny223 * (+718)
  53. [13:40:39] <mfbot> [[Talk:how-to-play]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/Talk:how-to-play * Johny223 * (+718)
  54. [13:40:45] <mfbot> [[Talk:xfn-implementations]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/Talk:xfn-implementations * Johny223 * (+718)
  55. [13:41:06] <mfbot> [[Talk:rel-enclosure]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/Talk:rel-enclosure * Johny223 * (+718)
  56. [13:41:07] <mfbot> [[Talk:rel-directory]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/Talk:rel-directory * Johny223 * (+718)
  57. [13:41:28] <mfbot> [[rel-bookmark]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/rel-bookmark * Johny223 * (+718)
  58. [13:41:44] <mfbot> [[Talk:rel-design-pattern]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/Talk:rel-design-pattern * Johny223 * (+718)
  59. [13:41:55] <mfbot> [[Talk:chat-examples]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/Talk:chat-examples * Johny223 * (+718)
  60. [13:42:01] <mfbot> [[Talk:comments-formats]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/Talk:comments-formats * Johny223 * (+718)
  61. [13:42:07] <mfbot> [[Talk:cite]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/Talk:cite * Johny223 * (+718)
  62. [13:42:08] <mfbot> [[Talk:last-modified-brainstorming]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/Talk:last-modified-brainstorming * Johny223 * (+718)
  63. [13:42:09] <mfbot> [[Talk:rest/forms-examples]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/Talk:rest/forms-examples * Johny223 * (+718)
  64. [13:42:10] <mfbot> [[User:ChristopherA]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/User:ChristopherA * Johny223 * (+718)
  65. [13:42:21] <mfbot> [[Talk:search-results-example]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/Talk:search-results-example * Johny223 * (+718)
  66. [13:42:27] <mfbot> [[Talk:xmdp-faq]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/Talk:xmdp-faq * Johny223 * (+718)
  67. [13:42:34] <mfbot> [[Talk:wiki-formats]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/Talk:wiki-formats * Johny223 * (+718)
  68. [13:42:34] <mfbot> [[Talk:zen-garden]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/Talk:zen-garden * Johny223 * (+718)
  69. [13:42:46] <mfbot> [[Talk:demo]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/Talk:demo * Johny223 * (+718)
  70. [13:42:52] <mfbot> [[hcalendar-profile]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/hcalendar-profile * Johny223 * (+718)
  71. [13:42:58] <mfbot> [[Talk:selected-test-cases-from-the-web]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/Talk:selected-test-cases-from-the-web * Johny223 * (+718)
  72. [13:42:58] <mfbot> [[Talk:marked-for-deletion]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/Talk:marked-for-deletion * Johny223 * (+718)
  73. [13:43:05] <mfbot> [[xfn-実装]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/xfn-%E5%AE%9F%E8%A3%85 * Johny223 * (+718)
  74. [13:43:06] <mfbot> [[Talk:buttons]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/Talk:buttons * Johny223 * (+718)
  75. [13:43:06] <mfbot> [[Talk:how-to-play-fr]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/Talk:how-to-play-fr * Johny223 * (+718)
  76. [13:43:08] <mfbot> [[User talk:DavidJanes]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/User_talk:DavidJanes * Johny223 * (+718)
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  79. [14:01:09] <mfbot> [[Talk:how-to-play]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Talk:how-to-play&diff=0&oldid=3382 * Johny223 * (+728)
  80. [14:01:35] <mfbot> [[Talk:xoxo]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/Talk:xoxo * Johny223 * (+718)
  81. [14:05:21] <mfbot> [[Talk:why-are-content-standards-hard]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/Talk:why-are-content-standards-hard * Johny223 * (+718)
  82. [14:05:52] <mfbot> [[Talk:buttons]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Talk:buttons&diff=0&oldid=3383 * Johny223 * (+728)
  83. [14:06:14] <mfbot> [[hcalendar-profile]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar-profile&diff=0&oldid=3384 * Johny223 * (+728)
  84. [14:06:39] <mfbot> [[Talk:how-to-play-fr]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Talk:how-to-play-fr&diff=0&oldid=3385 * Johny223 * (+728)
  85. [14:08:00] <Frederic> can someone ban that Johnny223?
  86. [14:08:09] <Frederic> He's spamming all the wiki pages
  87. [14:12:00] <mfbot> [[Talk:how-to-play]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Talk:how-to-play&diff=0&oldid=3386 * NeuRo * (-1446)
  88. [14:12:26] <mfbot> [[Talk:xfn-implementations]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Talk:xfn-implementations&diff=0&oldid=3387 * NeuRo * (-718)
  89. [14:12:42] <mfbot> [[hbib]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hbib&diff=0&oldid=3388 * NeuRo * (-718)
  90. [14:13:08] <mfbot> [[Talk:rel-enclosure]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Talk:rel-enclosure&diff=0&oldid=3389 * NeuRo * (-718)
  91. [14:13:39] <mfbot> [[Talk:rel-directory]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Talk:rel-directory&diff=0&oldid=3390 * NeuRo * (-718)
  92. [14:14:25] <mfbot> [[rel-bookmark]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=rel-bookmark&diff=0&oldid=3391 * NeuRo * (-718)
  93. [14:14:56] <mfbot> [[Talk:rel-design-pattern]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Talk:rel-design-pattern&diff=0&oldid=3392 * NeuRo * (-718)
  94. [14:15:13] <mfbot> [[Talk:chat-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Talk:chat-examples&diff=0&oldid=3393 * NeuRo * (-718)
  95. [14:15:29] <mfbot> [[Talk:comments-formats]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Talk:comments-formats&diff=0&oldid=3394 * NeuRo * (-718)
  96. [14:15:54] <mfbot> [[Talk:cite]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Talk:cite&diff=0&oldid=3395 * NeuRo * (-718)
  97. [14:16:46] <mfbot> [[Talk:last-modified-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Talk:last-modified-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=3396 * NeuRo * (-718)
  98. [14:16:52] <mfbot> [[Talk:rest/forms-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Talk:rest/forms-examples&diff=0&oldid=3397 * NeuRo * (-718)
  99. [14:16:58] <mfbot> [[User:ChristopherA]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:ChristopherA&diff=0&oldid=3398 * NeuRo * (-718)
  100. [14:17:09] <mfbot> [[Talk:search-results-example]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Talk:search-results-example&diff=0&oldid=3399 * NeuRo * (-718)
  101. [14:17:15] <mfbot> [[Talk:xmdp-faq]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Talk:xmdp-faq&diff=0&oldid=3400 * NeuRo * (-718)
  102. [14:17:26] <mfbot> [[Talk:wiki-formats]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Talk:wiki-formats&diff=0&oldid=3401 * NeuRo * (-718)
  103. [14:17:32] <mfbot> [[Talk:zen-garden]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Talk:zen-garden&diff=0&oldid=3402 * NeuRo * (-718)
  104. [14:18:48] <mfbot> [[Talk:demo]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Talk:demo&diff=0&oldid=3403 * NeuRo * (-718)
  105. [14:19:09] <mfbot> [[xfn-実装]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=xfn-%E5%AE%9F%E8%A3%85&diff=0&oldid=3404 * NeuRo * (-718)
  106. [14:19:25] <mfbot> [[Talk:how-to-play-fr]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Talk:how-to-play-fr&diff=0&oldid=3405 * NeuRo * (-1446)
  107. [14:19:36] <mfbot> [[Talk:why-are-content-standards-hard]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Talk:why-are-content-standards-hard&diff=0&oldid=3406 * NeuRo * (-718)
  108. [14:19:52] <mfbot> [[hcalendar-profile]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar-profile&diff=0&oldid=3407 * NeuRo * (-1446)
  109. [14:20:03] <mfbot> [[Talk:buttons]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Talk:buttons&diff=0&oldid=3408 * NeuRo * (-1446)
  110. [14:20:19] <mfbot> [[Talk:xoxo]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Talk:xoxo&diff=0&oldid=3409 * NeuRo * (-718)
  111. [14:21:05] <mfbot> [[Talk:selected-test-cases-from-the-web]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Talk:selected-test-cases-from-the-web&diff=0&oldid=3410 * NeuRo * (-718)
  112. [14:21:16] <mfbot> [[Talk:marked-for-deletion]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Talk:marked-for-deletion&diff=0&oldid=3411 * NeuRo * (-718)
  113. [14:21:42] <mfbot> [[User talk:DavidJanes]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User_talk:DavidJanes&diff=0&oldid=3412 * NeuRo * (-718)
  114. [14:21:49] <Frederic> done
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  118. [15:55:57] <jibot> RobertBachmann is in Austria
  119. [16:15:09] * fuzzyBSc (n=fuzzy@c210-49-67-45.rochd2.qld.optusnet.com.au) Quit ("Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/")
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  121. [16:18:33] <ichigo> hello
  122. [16:18:42] <ichigo> is it possible that the apple address book doesnt support GEO lat,long ?
  123. [16:19:47] <ichigo> anyone in?
  124. [16:22:27] <ichigo> somehow i cant get it to work. when i parse my hcard example xhtml page the part with the latitude and longitude is not exported to the vcard .. and if i type it in manually the apple address book doesnt show it. :(
  125. [16:23:55] <Frederic> hello
  126. [16:25:30] * TantekC (n=Tantek@ppp-71-139-3-146.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) has joined #microformats
  127. [16:25:32] <ichigo> hi Frederic
  128. [16:25:39] <Frederic> Hi Tantek
  129. [16:25:54] <ichigo> do you have an idea what could have gone wrong?
  130. [16:25:56] <Frederic> ichigo: I don't have a mac but I've never heard about it
  131. [16:26:18] <Frederic> KevinMarks has a mac but he seems away, maybe TantekC will know
  132. [16:26:23] <ichigo> which address book software do you use?
  133. [16:26:51] <Frederic> my brain for most of it, and evolution for the rest
  134. [16:27:04] <TantekC> hello Frederic
  135. [16:27:19] <ichigo> do you know if evolution supports GEO: lat;long ?
  136. [16:27:31] <TantekC> i have never used Evolution
  137. [16:27:37] <ichigo> or is it uncommon to support it in an address book app
  138. [16:27:53] <TantekC> i don't know of any address book app that supports it
  139. [16:28:07] <ichigo> TantekC: i try to export a hcard to a vcard but somehow the GEO part gets lost
  140. [16:28:07] <Frederic> ichigo: do you have a url where I can test it?
  141. [16:28:18] <TantekC> however, i'm sure the developers of such apps didn't find many vcards in the wild with geo (if any)
  142. [16:28:47] <ichigo> http://ichigo.homelinux.com:3000/profile/show/1
  143. [16:29:39] <ichigo> hope the uri works
  144. [16:29:49] <Frederic> still trying to connect
  145. [16:30:04] <Frederic> TantekC: we've been under a spam attack on the wiki today, but things are back to normal
  146. [16:31:06] <ichigo> http//80.123.45.27:3000/profile/show/1 might work too
  147. [16:31:18] <ichigo> http://80.123.45.27:3000/profile/show/1
  148. [16:31:45] <TantekC> Frederic, have we managed to block the attackers?
  149. [16:32:35] <TantekC> is it just Johny223 ?
  150. [16:32:42] <Frederic> TantekC: I don't have administration rights on the wiki, wo I just removed the page content. The user was Johny223
  151. [16:32:51] <mfbot> [[Special:Log/block]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Special:Log/block&diff=0&oldid=0 * Tantek * (+0) blocked "User:Johny223" with an expiry time of 10000 hours: spammer
  152. [16:34:03] <ichigo> i fear the geo part might not be exported because i also used additional tags in the vcard division which have nothing to do with the hcard itself? ist this allowed?
  153. [16:34:07] <TantekC> any other spam users?
  154. [16:34:19] <Frederic> ichigo: can't manage to get the vcard through the link
  155. [16:34:24] <Frederic> TantekC: not today
  156. [16:34:27] <TantekC> ok
  157. [16:34:36] <ichigo> or would you suggest that i display the information as i want and make a sepperate clean hcard
  158. [16:35:04] <ichigo> i cant either download the vcard through the link
  159. [16:35:53] <ichigo> but if i go to http://suda.co.uk/projects/X2V/get-vcard.php?uri=http://80.123.45.27:3000/profile/show/1 then there is a page with error messages AND the vcard in plain text...i copied it and edited the line breaks then i could import it with my osx address book
  160. [16:36:20] <ichigo> dont know whats up with that...might be an issue with my local machine
  161. [16:36:40] <Frederic> I also have a lot of PHP error
  162. [16:36:55] <ichigo> as suda.co.uk's X2V works with other hcards without problems
  163. [16:38:08] <TantekC> odd, the spammer only created new pages, did not spam current pages
  164. [16:38:37] <TantekC> Frederic, where is the hCard in question?
  165. [16:38:57] <mfbot> [[Special:Log/delete]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Special:Log/delete&diff=0&oldid=0 * Tantek * (+0) deleted "hbib": spammer created
  166. [16:39:13] <mfbot> [[Special:Log/delete]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Special:Log/delete&diff=0&oldid=0 * Tantek * (+0) deleted "Talk:xfn-implementations": spammer created
  167. [16:39:29] <mfbot> [[Special:Log/delete]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Special:Log/delete&diff=0&oldid=0 * Tantek * (+0) deleted "Talk:how-to-play": spammer created
  168. [16:39:36] <Frederic> TantekC: I was unable to delete the pages so I just emptied them. He used 2 technocs: some with the links and no text and some with the link + text
  169. [16:39:45] <mfbot> [[Special:Log/delete]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Special:Log/delete&diff=0&oldid=0 * Tantek * (+0) deleted "Talk:rel-enclosure": spammer created
  170. [16:40:16] <mfbot> [[Special:Log/delete]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Special:Log/delete&diff=0&oldid=0 * Tantek * (+0) deleted "Talk:rel-directory": spammer created
  171. [16:40:24] <ichigo> TantekC: this is the hcard http://80.123.45.27:3000/profile/show/1
  172. [16:40:24] <Frederic> ichigo: try something like this instead of your geo part:
  173. [16:40:26] <Frederic> <div class="geo">
  174. [16:40:26] <Frederic> <abbr class="latitude" title="37.408183">N 37° 24.491</abbr>
  175. [16:40:26] <Frederic> <abbr class="longitude" title="-122.13855">W 122° 08.313</abbr>
  176. [16:40:26] <Frederic> </div>
  177. [16:40:31] <TantekC> (sorry about the IRC noise you guys, gimme a few minutes to clean this up)
  178. [16:40:59] <Frederic> np, i did the same 3 hours ago
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  192. [16:43:53] <ichigo> Frederic: on the wiki page hcard-examples there is the example of the span tag so i used it. but now i tried to give the information as title of the abbr tag..seems like it doesnt work either :( no luck today
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  199. [16:45:06] <Frederic> All this makes me think that I've still haven't added my hCard on my blog
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  203. [16:46:10] <ichigo> do you know if there is going to be a greasemonkey script that works with ff 1.5+ in the next time?
  204. [16:46:10] <TantekC> ok, all newly spammer created pages have been deleted
  205. [16:46:28] <Frederic> great
  206. [16:46:46] <ichigo> i saw konqueror supports microformats already...this is great...unfortunately there is no konqueror for macs :(
  207. [16:48:13] <Frederic> Install a linux for max
  208. [16:48:17] <Frederic> mac :)
  209. [16:48:19] <TantekC> Frederic, your hCard geo markup looks fine to me
  210. [16:48:27] <TantekC> let me see if I can find Suda
  211. [16:48:36] <Frederic> TantekC: it's the wiki one actually
  212. [16:48:43] <Frederic> and it was a help for ichigo
  213. [16:50:23] <TantekC> looks like X2V is not parsing for the GEO
  214. [16:50:27] <ichigo> is it bad behaviour in general to add additional tags IN the vcard are which have nothing to do with the hcard itself?
  215. [16:50:33] <TantekC> no that is fine
  216. [16:50:39] <ichigo> because i feared that this could cause trouble
  217. [16:51:14] <TantekC> no it is deliberately ok
  218. [16:51:20] <ichigo> ok else i would have made a clean hcard additionally to the information displayed
  219. [16:51:22] <TantekC> BTW, you can make this shorter: <abbr class="type" title="home">Phone (Home)</abbr>
  220. [16:51:23] <ichigo> good
  221. [16:51:24] <TantekC> like this:
  222. [16:51:44] <TantekC> Phone (<span class="type">Home</span>)
  223. [16:51:57] <TantekC> avoids a use of <abbr> also
  224. [16:51:58] <ichigo> ah great idea
  225. [16:51:59] <TantekC> which is a good thing
  226. [16:52:04] <ichigo> it is
  227. [16:52:11] <ichigo> i thought it was rather ugly
  228. [16:52:17] <ichigo> but i also thought i have to use all lower case
  229. [16:52:23] <ichigo> for these values
  230. [16:54:19] <ichigo> yeah actually it seems like it has to be lower case
  231. [16:54:26] <TantekC> not in vcard
  232. [16:54:37] <TantekC> in hCard, only the class names have to be all lowercase
  233. [16:54:53] <ichigo> if i do Phone (<span class="type">Home</span>) instead of Phone (<span class="type">home</span>) then sudo makes no difference between the tel elements
  234. [16:55:06] <TantekC> then that's a bug in X2V
  235. [16:55:10] <ichigo> alright
  236. [16:55:29] <ichigo> i suppose there is nothing like a hcard validator right now :)
  237. [16:57:41] <TantekC> X2V is the closest thing!
  238. [16:57:57] <TantekC> it does actually catch some common errors and points out exactly what to fix
  239. [16:58:13] <ichigo> yeah i already have seen that with n / fn
  240. [16:58:23] <ichigo> its really nice already :)
  241. [17:17:40] <mfbot> [[hcard]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard&diff=0&oldid=3413 * Tantek * (+1015) added type values lists with defaults
  242. [17:18:18] <TantekC> ichigo, i added this to the spec to clarify the point you brought up: http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard#type_subproperty_values
  243. [17:18:32] <TantekC> let me know if that makes sense
  244. [17:19:07] <ichigo> great :) makes sense
  245. [17:27:27] <TantekC> we should capture those cases that X2V doesn't handle currently
  246. [17:28:42] <mfbot> [[hcard]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard&diff=0&oldid=3414 * Tantek * (-5) Sample vCard -
  247. [17:33:34] <TantekC> ichigo, perhaps on the hcard-examples page
  248. [17:33:35] <TantekC> hmm...
  249. [17:35:14] <ichigo> the link would not make that much sense right now as its on my local machine
  250. [17:35:24] <ichigo> but i hope the application is going to launch soon
  251. [17:35:51] <TantekC> i mean just copy the hCard markup itself
  252. [17:36:03] <ichigo> alright ill do that
  253. [17:36:13] <mfbot> [[hcard-examples]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-examples&diff=0&oldid=3415 * Tantek * (+291) Other -
  254. [17:36:19] <ichigo> to the issues section
  255. [17:36:19] <TantekC> i just created sections for you ;)
  256. [17:36:23] <ichigo> :D
  257. [17:36:25] <ichigo> good
  258. [17:36:25] <jibot> MacDome is a WebKit engineer who hacks on XML, XHTML, XSLT and SVG
  259. [17:36:42] <TantekC> http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard-examples#case-INSENSITIVITY_of_type_values
  260. [17:36:52] <TantekC> Frederic still here?
  261. [17:36:57] <TantekC> were you asking about GEO parsing?
  262. [17:37:00] <ichigo> btw issues... what do you think about extending the hcard specs officially so it does support more than vcards?
  263. [17:37:04] <TantekC> (or lack thereof)
  264. [17:37:06] <ichigo> like instant messaging services
  265. [17:37:11] <ichigo> and other services
  266. [17:37:13] <ichigo> flickr
  267. [17:37:16] <ichigo> delicious
  268. [17:37:18] <ichigo> ..
  269. [17:37:34] <TantekC> Frederic, please put the GEO example (inside an hCard) here: http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard-examples#GEO_parsing
  270. [17:37:54] <TantekC> ichigo, all of those can be supported with additional URL properties
  271. [17:38:04] * TantekC needs to write up examples for those
  272. [17:38:23] <ichigo> im not sure url is appropriate
  273. [17:38:31] <ichigo> i would like to see something like
  274. [17:38:33] <TantekC> why?
  275. [17:38:35] <TantekC> it works
  276. [17:38:36] <ichigo> my delicious account id is this
  277. [17:38:41] <TantekC> aim:goim?screenname=...
  278. [17:38:41] <ichigo> my flickr account id is this
  279. [17:38:46] <ichigo> not a link to the profile page
  280. [17:38:55] <TantekC> it means the same thing
  281. [17:39:12] <ichigo> but its easier to extract from a developers perspective
  282. [17:39:13] <TantekC> the problem is
  283. [17:39:20] <TantekC> you will end up infinitely extending the spec
  284. [17:39:24] <ichigo> you dont have to mess around with...which part of the uri is the username
  285. [17:39:25] <TantekC> because new services always come out
  286. [17:39:37] <TantekC> and new "types" of ids come out also
  287. [17:39:45] <TantekC> thus that is a bad approach to take
  288. [17:39:50] <TantekC> much better to just reuse URL
  289. [17:39:50] <ichigo> class="service" type="flickr" title="myid"
  290. [17:39:53] <TantekC> and add stuff there
  291. [17:39:58] <Frederic> TantekC: did you notice that frederic == neuro`?
  292. [17:40:08] <TantekC> i didn't realize that ;)
  293. [17:40:32] <Frederic> Well, now you know :)
  294. [17:40:44] <TantekC> ichigo, easier from the developer's perspective is not the point
  295. [17:40:52] <TantekC> we want the spec to be easiest for the author
  296. [17:41:04] <ichigo> yeah i know
  297. [17:41:13] <TantekC> plus
  298. [17:41:14] <ichigo> thats a point
  299. [17:41:22] <TantekC> just "URL" is easier for the developer
  300. [17:41:32] <TantekC> and then if the developer wants to do something special with certain URLs
  301. [17:41:38] <TantekC> then she can write the code to do so
  302. [17:42:00] <TantekC> keeping the spec/schema small is better for the developer also
  303. [17:42:06] <TantekC> less code to write/test
  304. [17:42:13] <ichigo> right
  305. [17:42:19] <TantekC> and like I said
  306. [17:42:27] <TantekC> there is a neverending list of such different services
  307. [17:42:36] <ichigo> you dont have to thin about it if its delicious or del.icio.us or Delicious
  308. [17:42:36] <TantekC> thus it doesn't make sense to try to enumerate them as values
  309. [17:42:50] <TantekC> some other specs have made this same mistake already
  310. [17:42:51] <TantekC> e.g
  311. [17:42:55] <TantekC> homepage vs. weblog
  312. [17:43:06] <TantekC> what happens when next year everybody has podcast pages?
  313. [17:43:09] <TantekC> or videoarchive pages?
  314. [17:43:14] <ichigo> +g+
  315. [17:43:15] <TantekC> do you have to change the standard?
  316. [17:43:20] <TantekC> that's lame if you do
  317. [17:43:43] <TantekC> so distinguishing the "type" of page ala homepage vs. weblog, in a data format, is lame
  318. [17:43:59] <TantekC> rather, in the schema of the data format
  319. [17:44:33] <TantekC> I'm not naming names here, but if DanC was awake, he would know which spec I was talking about ;)
  320. [17:45:09] <mfbot> [[hcard-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-examples&diff=0&oldid=3416 * NeuRo * (+317) GEO parsing -
  321. [17:48:00] <mfbot> [[hcard-examples]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-examples&diff=0&oldid=3417 * Tantek * (+155) Instructive Examples
  322. [17:48:58] <TantekC> Frederic, please include a complete hCard in the example so that it can be parsed as an hCard, not just as a geo
  323. [17:49:43] <Frederic> TantekC: OK, writing mine
  324. [17:49:51] <Frederic> 10 minutes please
  325. [17:51:20] <ichigo> if i try to register the wiki says "You have not specified a valid user name."
  326. [17:51:30] <ichigo> is "ichigo" not a valid username?
  327. [17:51:33] <Frederic> ichigo: mixed case name
  328. [17:51:37] <Frederic> Ichigo is good
  329. [17:51:44] <Frederic> IchiGo too
  330. [17:51:45] <ichigo> ah
  331. [17:51:52] * Frederic hates wiki syntax
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  333. [17:52:23] <jibot> rtomayko is tracking the free culture movement http://naeblis.cx/rtomayko/freeculture/
  334. [17:57:23] <Frederic> Does someone know a website where I can find my geo infos? (I'm in France)
  335. [17:59:06] <mfbot> [[hcard-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-examples&diff=0&oldid=3418 * Ichigo * (+390) case-INSENSITIVITY of type values -
  336. [17:59:38] <ichigo> Frederic: google maps?
  337. [18:00:11] <ichigo> browse france until you find your location...then click on the right top where the permalink symbol is
  338. [18:00:31] <ichigo> then you see the uri in the address bar and you can get your latitude, longitude from there
  339. [18:09:06] <Frederic> ichigo: found my town bu I had a hard time
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  341. [18:19:13] <Frederic> ichigo: to answer your previous question, Evolution does not handle geo in vcards
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  343. [18:24:30] <Frederic> TantekC: do you think the following is correct?
  344. [18:25:06] <Frederic> damn, c/p doesn't work
  345. [18:28:14] <TantekC> Frederic, you can put notes about vcard implementations here:
  346. [18:28:37] <TantekC> http://microformats.org/wiki/vcard-implementations
  347. [18:30:48] <Frederic> Is it correct to put the nickname in the class="n" span?
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  349. [18:38:03] <mfbot> [[media-metadata-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=media-metadata-examples&diff=0&oldid=3419 * Charles * (+170) Added more info to Container Formats
  350. [18:41:54] <mfbot> [[media-metadata-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=media-metadata-examples&diff=0&oldid=3420 * Charles * (+9) Renamed "Audio" section to "Audio Metadata".
  351. [18:46:06] <mfbot> [[media-metadata-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=media-metadata-examples&diff=0&oldid=3421 * Charles * (+81) Added "Audio Formats" section
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  353. [18:49:00] <ichigo_> thanks Frederic for the geo information @ evolution
  354. [18:49:32] <mfbot> [[media-metadata-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=media-metadata-examples&diff=0&oldid=3422 * Charles * (+6) Added some stuff to "Audio Formats"
  355. [18:50:13] <mfbot> [[media-metadata-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=media-metadata-examples&diff=0&oldid=3423 * Charles * (+8) Renamed "Audio Metadata" to "Audio Metadata Formats".
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  357. [18:55:57] <ichigo_> is this still valid as an hcard format of a birthday information? or do i have to use the abbr version from the hcard examples wiki page
  358. [18:56:35] <TantekC> ichigo, are you able to edit http://microformats.org/wiki/vcard-implementations to add the info about Evolution?
  359. [18:56:47] <TantekC> is what still valid as an hcard format of a birthday information?
  360. [18:57:16] <ichigo_> oh forgot the link +g+ http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/yoYjLr16.html
  361. [18:57:39] <mfbot> [[hcard-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-examples&diff=0&oldid=3424 * NeuRo * (+963) GEO parsing -
  362. [18:57:53] <TantekC> what platform does evolution run on?
  363. [18:58:03] <Frederic> TantekC: linux essentially
  364. [18:58:17] <Frederic> it's gnome outlook like
  365. [18:58:22] <Frederic> With hcal support
  366. [18:58:35] <mfbot> [[vcard-implementations]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=vcard-implementations&diff=0&oldid=3425 * Tantek * (+102) Apple Address Book -
  367. [18:58:46] <Frederic> iCal
  368. [18:59:08] <ichigo_> i added information to evolution and to the apple address book
  369. [18:59:25] <TantekC> really? I'm not seeing it on the page
  370. [18:59:33] <TantekC> i just added the section for Evolution: http://microformats.org/wiki/vcard-implementations#Evolution
  371. [19:00:21] <mfbot> [[vcard-implementations]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=vcard-implementations&diff=0&oldid=3426 * Ichigo * (+45) Products -
  372. [19:00:50] <ichigo_> didnt work before dunno why
  373. [19:01:19] <TantekC> Frederic, I don't understand what the " GEO parsing" section is saying
  374. [19:01:21] <TantekC> it is just an example
  375. [19:01:31] <TantekC> how is it a test case?
  376. [19:01:34] <TantekC> what is it testing?
  377. [19:01:38] <TantekC> what is the expected behavior
  378. [19:01:46] <TantekC> what is the actual behavior in what parser?
  379. [19:02:41] <TantekC> ichigo, please specify whether you are talking about when importing or when exporting a vcard from the program(s)
  380. [19:03:00] <TantekC> right now I can't tell whether GEO is not supported on the way in (import), or if GEO information in the UI is not exported.
  381. [19:04:32] <mfbot> [[vcard-implementations]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=vcard-implementations&diff=0&oldid=3427 * Ichigo * (+145) Apple Address Book -
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  383. [19:04:35] <jibot> bkdelong is B.K. DeLong, Head Research Analyst for HALO Worldwide - http://www.haloworldwide.com. Web: http://www.brain-stream.com. Email: bkdelong@pobox.com - Is At ApacheCon
  384. [19:04:57] <Frederic> TantekC: restarting that part from scratch
  385. [19:05:13] <mfbot> [[media-metadata-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=media-metadata-examples&diff=0&oldid=3428 * Charles * (+1222) Added stuff to "Container Formats".
  386. [19:05:54] <mfbot> [[vcard-implementations]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=vcard-implementations&diff=0&oldid=3429 * Ichigo * (+87) geo (lack of support) -
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  389. [19:12:22] <ichigo_> is the format for aim "X
  390. [19:16:44] <TantekC> no
  391. [19:16:48] <TantekC> i'm writing it up now
  392. [19:17:00] <ichigo_> i see also X-MSN
  393. [19:17:03] <ichigo_> and X-ICQ
  394. [19:17:10] <TantekC> yuck
  395. [19:17:23] <ichigo_> though its stupid as icq and aim is the same now ;)
  396. [19:18:07] <ichigo_> is this birhtday format valid? http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/nauh2e83.html or do i have to use the version from the example?
  397. [19:18:37] <ichigo_> i know its a bit bloated but id like to have my markup on the page somehow consistent
  398. [19:19:25] <mfbot> [[media-metadata-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=media-metadata-examples&diff=0&oldid=3430 * Charles * (+1149) Added Audio Formats Comparison Table.
  399. [19:19:44] <TantekC> ichigo, that looks fine
  400. [19:20:00] <TantekC> though there is no reason to use class="value" in that case
  401. [19:20:16] <TantekC> you can simply put class="bday" there instead
  402. [19:20:48] <ichigo_> yeah i know but id like to have class="bday" outside of the dt and dd tags
  403. [19:21:05] <TantekC> why?
  404. [19:21:12] <TantekC> the extra class="value" is a waste
  405. [19:21:23] <ichigo_> because i did that with phone and geo and others too
  406. [19:21:24] <TantekC> if you want to put a separate class outside for your own styling purposes, you can do that
  407. [19:21:50] <TantekC> but for the purpose of hcard, putting it directly on the value makes more sense
  408. [19:21:56] <ichigo_> its because i want a consistency for styling
  409. [19:22:24] <ichigo_> but it seems like X2V also has some problems if i do it my way
  410. [19:22:41] <ichigo_> im thinking of doing a clean hcard and just make a display:none
  411. [19:22:51] <ichigo_> might solve some problems
  412. [19:23:16] <mfbot> [[media-metadata-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=media-metadata-examples&diff=0&oldid=3431 * Charles * (+86) Fixed Audio Format Comparison Formats
  413. [19:25:57] <TantekC> ichigo, that would be a bad ideea
  414. [19:26:00] <TantekC> on two parts
  415. [19:26:13] <TantekC> first, you would duplicate the information, which would violate the DRY principle
  416. [19:26:28] <TantekC> second, invisible metadata is a bad idea in general, it gets forgotten, out of sync etc.
  417. [19:27:07] <TantekC> if X2V doesn't handle a particular case, please add it to the Test Cases section of the hcard-examples page, and note that it doesn't work in X2V as of which date
  418. [19:27:58] <mfbot> [[hcard-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-examples&diff=0&oldid=3432 * Tantek * (+1102) added AIM ID how to
  419. [19:30:02] <ichigo_> ill do that
  420. [19:30:41] <ichigo_> i just have a conflict between doing something in a way that it gets more useful practically versus theoretically
  421. [19:31:28] <ichigo_> after all its something that microformats already do. practical use versus sitting around for hundred years and discussing about specifications that get 1000 pages long
  422. [19:32:01] <ichigo_> but i get your point and ill add a note to the text cases
  423. [19:34:29] <mfbot> [[media-metadata-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=media-metadata-examples&diff=0&oldid=3433 * Charles * (+251) Added stuff fo Audio Formats.
  424. [19:37:05] <mfbot> [[hcard-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-examples&diff=0&oldid=3434 * Ichigo * (+413) Test Cases -
  425. [19:37:56] <mfbot> [[hcard-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-examples&diff=0&oldid=3435 * Ichigo * (+15) problem with BDAY information -
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  427. [19:42:00] <TantekC> thanks ichigo!
  428. [19:44:12] <mfbot> [[media-metadata-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=media-metadata-examples&diff=0&oldid=3436 * Charles * (+476) Added AAC and Speex to "Formats & Protocols".
  429. [19:46:08] <mfbot> [[media-metadata-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=media-metadata-examples&diff=0&oldid=3437 * Charles * (-9) Renamed "Problems with Container Formats" to "Notes for Microformats".
  430. [19:49:39] <mfbot> [[media-metadata-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=media-metadata-examples&diff=0&oldid=3438 * Charles * (+72) Added stuff to "ASF"
  431. [19:51:09] <TantekC> what does the GEO test case do?
  432. [19:51:21] <TantekC> http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard-examples#GEO_parsing
  433. [19:51:22] <TantekC> ?
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  436. [19:56:01] * Set by KevinMarks on Sat Dec 17 10:09:57 CET 2005
  437. [19:56:01] <TantekC> uh oh
  438. [19:56:04] <TantekC> phew!
  439. [19:57:18] <ichigo_> i think he means that it does not work but it should with x2v but im not certain
  440. [19:58:31] <mfbot> [[media-metadata-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=media-metadata-examples&diff=0&oldid=3439 * Charles * (+1341) Added Container Format Comparison Table.
  441. [19:59:32] <mfbot> [[media-metadata-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=media-metadata-examples&diff=0&oldid=3440 * Charles * (-3) Fixed title of section
  442. [20:02:08] <mfbot> [[hcard-examples]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-examples&diff=0&oldid=3441 * Tantek * (+144) GEO parsing -
  443. [20:02:14] <mfbot> [[media-metadata-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=media-metadata-examples&diff=0&oldid=3442 * Charles * (+172) Added stuff to Ogg
  444. [20:03:55] <mfbot> [[media-metadata-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=media-metadata-examples&diff=0&oldid=3443 * Charles * (+97) Added stuff to Atomic RSS+SMIL.
  445. [20:04:56] <mfbot> [[media-metadata-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=media-metadata-examples&diff=0&oldid=3444 * Charles * (+132) Added stuff to Atom+SMIL.
  446. [20:09:02] <mfbot> [[media-metadata-examples]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=media-metadata-examples&diff=0&oldid=3445 * Charles * (+1) Added some spacing.
  447. [20:28:49] <mfbot> [[media-metadata-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=media-metadata-examples&diff=0&oldid=3446 * Charles * (+219) Added "Playing Formats" section.
  448. [20:32:20] <mfbot> [[media-metadata-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=media-metadata-examples&diff=0&oldid=3447 * Charles * (+21) correction
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  452. [20:59:16] <mfbot> [[hcard-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-examples&diff=0&oldid=3448 * Tantek * (+490) ymsgr info
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  455. [21:23:52] <TantekC> ichigo, still there?
  456. [21:24:04] <ichigo> yeah im here
  457. [21:24:34] <mfbot> [[hcard-examples]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-examples&diff=0&oldid=3450 * Tantek * (+3) Site profiles -
  458. [21:24:54] <TantekC> ichigo, in answer to your query of a few hours ago: http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard-examples#New_Types_of_Contact_Info
  459. [21:24:54] <ichigo> TantekC: do you know if there is a similar url schema for jabber (compared to aim and ymsgr)
  460. [21:25:06] <ichigo> yeah just saw that...great work :)
  461. [21:25:24] <TantekC> i don't know about jabber, i haven't used it.
  462. [21:25:28] <TantekC> but i imagine there would be
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  464. [21:26:20] <jibot> RobertBachmann is in Austria
  465. [21:26:42] <TantekC> anybody here use delicious?
  466. [21:26:45] <trovster> t1m sux ;)
  467. [21:27:31] <RobertBachmann> I do
  468. [21:27:50] <TantekC> what is the url to your "profile" or "home page" on delicious?
  469. [21:28:36] <trovster> del.icio.us is down for emergency maintenance. we'll be back as soon possible. oop
  470. [21:29:32] <TantekC> oops
  471. [21:31:17] <RobertBachmann> http://del.icio.us/rbach - but it's a real mess
  472. [21:32:47] <ichigo> robert bachmann is in austria?
  473. [21:32:56] <RobertBachmann> yes
  474. [21:32:57] <ichigo> i juse delicious
  475. [21:33:06] <ichigo> http://del.icio.us/ichigo
  476. [21:33:11] <ichigo> which part of austria?
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  478. [21:33:19] <RobertBachmann> lower austria
  479. [21:33:23] <ichigo> ah nice
  480. [21:33:36] <ichigo> im living in your ex capital city sort of
  481. [21:33:38] <ichigo> ;)
  482. [21:33:58] <ichigo> at least afaik
  483. [21:35:05] <mfbot> [[hcard-examples]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-examples&diff=0&oldid=3451 * Tantek * (+15) Site profiles -
  484. [21:38:42] <RobertBachmann> ah, Vienna
  485. [21:38:49] <t1m> hah, trovster, eXplosive Markup Language.
  486. [21:39:06] <trovster> Yes....
  487. [21:39:09] <ichigo> right vienna
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  489. [21:44:26] <jibot> bkdelong is B.K. DeLong, Head Research Analyst for HALO Worldwide - http://www.haloworldwide.com. Web: http://www.brain-stream.com. Email: bkdelong@pobox.com - Is At ApacheCon
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  492. [22:08:39] <jibot> bear is located near Philadelphia, PA and the build/release grunt for OSAF and an apprentice python hacker
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