IRC Log for #microformats on 2006-03-07

Timestamps are in UTC.

  1. [00:04:59] * keithalexander (n=keithale@87.112.65.97.bbplus.ptn-ag2.dyn.plus.net) Quit (Success)
  2. [00:11:26] * JonAquino (n=jonathan@S0106000c4189ebad.gv.shawcable.net) has joined #microformats
  3. [00:11:51] * Yoz (n=Yoz@70.103.133.226) has joined #microformats
  4. [00:12:07] <JonAquino> hello all - just adding some microformats to one of our apps for an eTech demo this wee
  5. [00:12:09] <JonAquino> k
  6. [00:14:05] * limbo__ (n=me@h-67-103-44-6.snfccasy.covad.net) has joined #microformats
  7. [00:15:28] <JonAquino> for hCalendar, do I need to specify the TZ if I don't specify a time?
  8. [00:15:45] <JonAquino> the hCalendar Creator demo doesn't seem to do anything with TZ if no time is specified
  9. [00:17:14] <JonAquino> ah nevermind I see a comment from Tantek that "dates can have no TZ""
  10. [00:21:23] <tantek> that's right Jon. plus, you can run your hCalendar added pages thru http://feeds.technorati.com/events/ and see what shows up in iCal.app to verify that your markup is what you expect it to be.
  11. [00:21:37] <JonAquino> ah cool - thx tantek
  12. [00:22:16] * bear is now known as bear_dinner
  13. [00:23:53] <Yoz> tantek: is there any display method that doesn't involve iCal.app? i.e. for someone working on Windows... any web service that can interpret?
  14. [00:24:13] <tantek> Mozilla Sunbird works well also
  15. [00:24:21] <tantek> as does Evolution
  16. [00:24:23] <Yoz> ok
  17. [00:24:27] <JonAquino> k
  18. [00:32:28] * limbo_ (n=me@h-67-103-44-6.snfccasy.covad.net) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
  19. [00:42:06] * keithalexander (n=keithale@87.114.0.233) has joined #microformats
  20. [00:44:34] * tantek (n=tantek@64.213.153.10) Quit ()
  21. [00:46:51] * markp (n=markp@12.46.200.2) Quit ()
  22. [00:52:19] <JonAquino> to mark up a 1-day event with hCalendar, would I use nested abbr tags? (one for dtstart and one for dtend)
  23. [00:53:05] <kingryan> why would you need to nest them?
  24. [00:53:19] <JonAquino> yeah I guess I could make the second one empty
  25. [00:53:47] <kingryan> no, just absent
  26. [00:53:48] * KevinMarks (n=Snak@pdpc/supporter/active/kevinmarks) Quit ("The computer fell asleep")
  27. [00:54:05] <JonAquino> oh you mean just a dtstart, no dtend?
  28. [00:54:25] <JonAquino> actually I tried that and Sunbird wouldn't pick up the generated ics file
  29. [00:54:29] <kingryan> dtstart with a date (not datetime) and no dtend
  30. [00:54:33] <kingryan> hmm, really?
  31. [00:54:42] <JonAquino> yeah - I stuck in a dtend and it worked
  32. [00:54:58] <kingryan> the other option is to set dtend to the next day
  33. [00:55:08] <JonAquino> yup I shall do that
  34. [00:55:17] <JonAquino> just won't be marking up anything
  35. [00:55:18] <kingryan> so 2006-03-06 - 2006-03-07
  36. [00:55:26] <JonAquino> k
  37. [00:58:19] * pnhChris (n=cac6982@c-68-81-161-155.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) Quit ()
  38. [01:04:07] * mlinksva (n=mlinksva@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/mlinksva) Quit (Remote closed the connection)
  39. [01:16:51] * karlUshi (n=karl@sd1u209254.ocv.ne.jp) Quit ("Mooooo in another space")
  40. [01:55:48] * foolswisdom (n=lloyd@71-6-0-194-cust.telepacific.net) Quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host))
  41. [02:06:38] * foolswisdom (n=lloyd@dsl017-048-049.sfo4.dsl.speakeasy.net) has joined #microformats
  42. [02:17:34] * karlUshi (n=karl@131.113.209.178) has joined #microformats
  43. [02:17:34] <jibot> karlUshi is karlcow
  44. [02:18:41] * limbo__ (n=me@h-67-103-44-6.snfccasy.covad.net) Quit ("> home")
  45. [02:22:11] * cee-dub (n=cee-dub@adsl-71-132-9-182.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) Quit ()
  46. [02:29:07] * limbo_ (n=me@dsl081-055-160.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net) has joined #microformats
  47. [02:29:07] <jibot> limbo_ is Eran and blogs at http://hellonline.com/blog/
  48. [02:29:41] * foolswisdom (n=lloyd@dsl017-048-049.sfo4.dsl.speakeasy.net) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
  49. [02:32:14] * hober (n=ted@unaffiliated/hober) has joined #microformats
  50. [02:32:15] <jibot> hober is Edward O'Connor and works for EVDB on http://eventful.com/ and lives in San Diego, CA (-08:00)
  51. [02:33:44] * LTjake (n=brian@CPE0011506c8049-CM0013711405ec.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) Quit ("Chatzilla 0.9.71 [Firefox 1.5.0.1/2006011112]")
  52. [02:34:37] * Enric (n=chatzill@c-67-188-10-66.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #microformats
  53. [02:34:37] <jibot> Enric is a media Software Developer and Videoblogger located at http://www.cirne.com
  54. [02:34:40] * JonAquino (n=jonathan@S0106000c4189ebad.gv.shawcable.net) has left #microformats
  55. [02:34:52] * Enric (n=chatzill@c-67-188-10-66.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) Quit (Client Quit)
  56. [02:34:55] * blake_ (n=blake@dsl093-240-087.ral1.dsl.speakeasy.net) Quit ()
  57. [02:48:10] * valmont (n=chrishol@pdpc/supporter/silver/valmont) Quit (No route to host)
  58. [03:03:34] * karlUshi (n=karl@131.113.209.178) Quit ("Mooooo in another space")
  59. [03:08:37] * CaptSolo_ is now known as CaptSolo
  60. [03:25:18] * limbo_ is now known as limbo_out
  61. [03:37:39] * markp (n=markp@70.103.133.226) has joined #microformats
  62. [03:38:51] * [1]Yoz (n=Yoz@70.103.133.226) has joined #microformats
  63. [03:39:02] * Yoz (n=Yoz@70.103.133.226) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
  64. [03:39:03] * [1]Yoz is now known as Yoz
  65. [03:40:25] * KevinMarks (n=Snak@70.103.133.226) has joined #microformats
  66. [04:02:30] * keithalexander (n=keithale@87.114.0.233) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
  67. [04:08:50] * Yoz (n=Yoz@70.103.133.226) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
  68. [04:10:25] * Yoz (n=Yoz@70.103.133.226) has joined #microformats
  69. [04:18:58] * chimprawk (n=chimpraw@cpe-066-057-014-247.nc.res.rr.com) has joined #microformats
  70. [04:21:43] * KevinMarks (n=Snak@pdpc/supporter/active/kevinmarks) Quit ("The computer fell asleep")
  71. [04:23:24] * blake_ (n=blake@dsl093-240-087.ral1.dsl.speakeasy.net) has joined #microformats
  72. [04:32:37] * karlUshi (n=karl@dhcp67.ocn.mita.keio.ac.jp) has joined #microformats
  73. [04:32:37] <jibot> karlUshi is karlcow
  74. [04:32:56] * Yoz (n=Yoz@70.103.133.226) has left #microformats
  75. [04:39:25] * amette_ (n=amette@p54B88DDF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #microformats
  76. [04:41:34] * hober (n=ted@unaffiliated/hober) Quit ("nil")
  77. [04:48:32] * markp (n=markp@70.103.133.226) Quit ()
  78. [04:53:09] * TantekC (n=Tantek@70.103.133.226) has joined #microformats
  79. [04:54:42] * chimprawk (n=chimpraw@cpe-066-057-014-247.nc.res.rr.com) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
  80. [04:55:14] * amette (n=amette@p54B88EDD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
  81. [04:55:21] * Zeeshan_M (i=develope@o.1.vg) Quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
  82. [04:55:37] * chimprawk (n=chimpraw@cpe-066-057-241-028.nc.res.rr.com) has joined #microformats
  83. [04:55:56] * Zeeshan_M (i=develope@o.1.vg) has joined #Microformats
  84. [04:58:07] * factoryjoe (n=cmessina@70.103.133.226) has joined #microformats
  85. [05:11:32] * blake_ (n=blake@dsl093-240-087.ral1.dsl.speakeasy.net) Quit ()
  86. [05:12:56] * chimprawk (n=chimpraw@cpe-066-057-241-028.nc.res.rr.com) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
  87. [05:24:23] * TantekC (n=Tantek@70.103.133.226) Quit (Remote closed the connection)
  88. [05:25:28] * markp (n=markp@70.103.133.226) has joined #microformats
  89. [05:29:45] * chimprawk (n=chimpraw@cpe-066-057-241-028.nc.res.rr.com) has joined #microformats
  90. [05:36:12] * markp (n=markp@70.103.133.226) Quit ()
  91. [05:42:42] * factoryjoe (n=cmessina@70.103.133.226) Quit ()
  92. [05:49:43] * tantek (n=tantek@64.213.153.10) has joined #microformats
  93. [05:49:43] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
  94. [05:49:58] * ChanServ sets mode +o tantek
  95. [05:56:07] * karlUshi (n=karl@dhcp67.ocn.mita.keio.ac.jp) Quit ("This computer has gone to sleep")
  96. [05:59:25] * TantekC (n=Tantek@64.213.153.10) has joined #microformats
  97. [06:00:13] * chimprawk (n=chimpraw@cpe-066-057-241-028.nc.res.rr.com) Quit (Connection timed out)
  98. [06:00:19] * chimprawk (n=chimpraw@cpe-066-057-241-028.nc.res.rr.com) has joined #microformats
  99. [06:04:23] * valmont (n=chrishol@dsl092-043-004.lax1.dsl.speakeasy.net) has joined #microformats
  100. [06:07:20] * karlUshi (n=karl@dhcp67.ocn.mita.keio.ac.jp) has joined #microformats
  101. [06:07:20] <jibot> karlUshi is karlcow
  102. [06:15:01] * tantek sets mode +o TantekC
  103. [06:15:25] <tantek> good evening folks
  104. [06:15:36] <tantek> looks like we have a full lightning demo grid for tomorrow evening!
  105. [06:15:38] <Jonnay> Evenin tantek
  106. [06:15:44] <tantek> http://microformats.org/wiki/events/2006-03-07-etech-microformats
  107. [06:17:27] * bkdelong (n=bkdelong@h-67-102-164-116.cmbrmaor.covad.net) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
  108. [06:19:04] <Frederic> Hello tantek
  109. [06:19:14] <tantek> hello jonnay and Frederic
  110. [06:20:51] <mfbot> [[events/2006-03-07-etech-microformats]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events/2006-03-07-etech-microformats&diff=0&oldid=5313 * Tantek * (+181) speakers page has been fixed and ready for hCarding!
  111. [06:21:22] <tantek> thanks very much to Robert Bachmann and Ben West for marking up the majority of the Etech pages with hCard
  112. [06:21:47] * blake_ (n=blake@dsl093-240-087.ral1.dsl.speakeasy.net) has joined #microformats
  113. [06:21:48] <tantek> There is one page left that could use some good hCard markup - the conference speakers page: http://conferences.oreillynet.com/pub/w/43/speakers.html
  114. [06:31:11] <tantek> anyone here have a few minutes to add hCard to the O'Reilly Etech speakers page?
  115. [06:31:21] <tantek> it's the last one left
  116. [06:43:44] <bewest> :-)
  117. [06:43:58] <bewest> I bet the people the work under you like you
  118. [06:48:48] <tantek> thanks bewest!
  119. [06:49:16] <tantek> i'm pretty fortunate to work with some very sharp folks
  120. [06:49:40] <imajes> yo tantek
  121. [06:49:43] <bewest> that's a fortunate scenario
  122. [06:49:44] <tantek> yo imajes
  123. [06:51:09] <imajes> i've been building a site
  124. [06:51:23] <tantek> excellent
  125. [06:51:26] <imajes> heh.. yeah
  126. [06:51:44] <imajes> foudn that i have one page which i have managed to get 96%+ DB processing, and the rest is rendering
  127. [06:51:51] <imajes> i suspect i've tried to be too clever with my SQL :)
  128. [06:53:17] * Jonnay (n=jonny@d199-126-185-156.abhsia.telus.net) Quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
  129. [06:53:18] * Jonna1 (n=jonny@d199-126-185-156.abhsia.telus.net) has joined #microformats
  130. [06:53:19] <bewest> tantek: out of curiosity, do you code/implement things?
  131. [06:54:29] <imajes> occasionally tantek writes browsers
  132. [06:54:59] <tantek> bewest, yep, just recoded my website/blog this past weekend: http://tantek.com
  133. [06:55:25] <imajes> oh... nice job for t'rati to do favorites and not limit design
  134. [06:55:32] <bewest> most of the work I associate tantek with are things revolving around emerging technologies/standards/planning/strategizing
  135. [06:55:33] <imajes> unlike google ads which enforce design/layout
  136. [06:55:46] <tantek> plus I've been coding up so many of the hCards/hCalendars for conferences etc., that I figured I should spread the knowledge ;)
  137. [06:55:55] <tantek> imajes, thanks!
  138. [06:55:57] <imajes> tantek- you still have the convertible?
  139. [06:56:20] <imajes> it'd be nicer if you give your posts a bit more padding to define them better :)
  140. [06:56:23] <tantek> yeah, we wanted to build something that all of us would feel like even we would want to put it on our sites, as opposed to something which no one wanted
  141. [06:56:48] <tantek> bewest, I don't get to code nearly as much as I would like to
  142. [06:56:56] <imajes> i've got to drop mine on my site... but i kind of have been holding back because it contains about a 5th of my blogroll
  143. [06:56:59] <bewest> oh and the css box model hack of course
  144. [06:57:18] <imajes> it'd be nice if t'rati faves could-- if not display all posts from my blogroll, pick 50 at random
  145. [06:57:22] * tantek points bewest to the hCard creator, a rare example of when Tantek got to write some code. http://microformats.org/code/hcard/creator
  146. [06:58:35] <bewest> yeah
  147. [06:58:36] <bewest> I've seen that
  148. [06:59:11] <tantek> plus I like to hack favelets too
  149. [06:59:25] <bewest> ah, I've seen some
  150. [06:59:49] <imajes> tantek: did you see my comment wrt enhancement for faves?
  151. [07:00:29] <tantek> the padding?
  152. [07:00:41] <imajes> er - that's your blog
  153. [07:00:48] <imajes> i meant allowing users to store more than 50 feeds
  154. [07:01:40] * tantek can't comment about unreleased enhancements. ;)
  155. [07:01:51] <imajes> well yes
  156. [07:05:13] <imajes> tantek: do you know if textarea can have a max chars attribute?
  157. [07:06:05] <imajes> seems like it can't
  158. [07:07:38] <tantek> yeah. no "maxlength" on <textarea> according to http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/interact/forms.html#h-17.7
  159. [07:09:22] <imajes> hmm
  160. [07:09:34] <imajes> shame you can't make an <input> behave like a textarea
  161. [07:10:07] <imajes> i guess i need to add a js hack to fix the length of the content in the textare
  162. [07:10:07] <imajes> a
  163. [07:10:30] * TheMaecenati (n=TheMaece@adsl-71-132-212-69.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) has joined #microformats
  164. [07:15:54] <imajes> i can't wait till webforms get better specs
  165. [07:16:12] <imajes> i shouldn't have to write an observer to poll a textarea to count it's length
  166. [07:17:36] <bewest> well... users shouldn't have to deal with such a shoddy text editor, either
  167. [07:18:23] <bewest> I don't know what you're working on, but you might consider having a preview area so they can see that they can't type anymore
  168. [07:18:39] * chimprawk (n=chimpraw@cpe-066-057-241-028.nc.res.rr.com) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
  169. [07:19:03] * chimprawk (n=chimpraw@cpe-066-057-241-028.nc.res.rr.com) has joined #microformats
  170. [07:21:11] <tantek> imajes, bewest, suggest you take a look at the WebForms2 spec at whatwg.org
  171. [07:21:29] <imajes> bewest: yes, doing some of that but it is a pain
  172. [07:29:08] <bewest> interesting
  173. [07:29:16] <bewest> I've only glanced at this material before
  174. [07:29:22] <bewest> hmmm
  175. [07:29:28] <bewest> kind of breaks some of TBL's concepts though
  176. [07:29:36] <bewest> regarding device independence
  177. [07:30:17] <bewest> it's unclear if this is new technology or extending existing technology, either
  178. [07:30:48] <bewest> and making a new input/textarea spec doesn't mean the actual implementation will be any better than today's simplest of text editors
  179. [07:30:58] <bewest> which are somehow more crippled, in general, than notepad.exe
  180. [07:35:34] <mfbot> [[hcalendar]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar&diff=0&oldid=5314 * JonathanAquino * (+246) New Examples -
  181. [07:47:09] <tantek> I've added the microformats related ETech events to the microformats.org calendar. Click webcal://feeds.technorati.com/events/http://microformats.org/ to add them to your calendar.
  182. [08:05:18] * blake_ (n=blake@dsl093-240-087.ral1.dsl.speakeasy.net) Quit ()
  183. [08:06:57] * karlUshi (n=karl@dhcp67.ocn.mita.keio.ac.jp) Quit ("Mooooo in another space")
  184. [08:08:54] * Jonna1 is now known as jonnay
  185. [08:25:52] * KevinMarks (n=Snak@12.105.241.22) has joined #microformats
  186. [08:28:29] * kingryan (n=kingryan@dsl081-240-149.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net) Quit ()
  187. [08:31:14] * izo (n=izo@LNeuilly-152-23-33-39.w193-252.abo.wanadoo.fr) has joined #microformats
  188. [09:03:50] * tantek sets mode +o KevinMarks
  189. [09:08:01] * KevinMarks (n=Snak@pdpc/supporter/active/kevinmarks) Quit ("The computer fell asleep")
  190. [09:25:04] <mfbot> [[press]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=press&diff=0&oldid=5315 * Tantek * (+56)
  191. [09:27:55] <mfbot> [[suggested-reading]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=suggested-reading&diff=0&oldid=5316 * Tantek * (+97)
  192. [09:31:28] * tantek (n=tantek@64.213.153.10) Quit ()
  193. [09:32:10] * tantek (n=tantek@64.213.153.10) has joined #microformats
  194. [09:32:13] * ChanServ sets mode +o tantek
  195. [09:33:51] * tantek (n=tantek@64.213.153.10) has left #microformats
  196. [09:34:38] * tantek (n=tantek@64.213.153.10) has joined #microformats
  197. [09:34:41] * ChanServ sets mode +o tantek
  198. [09:43:56] * TimC_ (n=tim@151.204.249.106) has joined #microformats
  199. [09:44:21] * TimC (n=tim@151.204.249.106) Quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
  200. [10:10:52] <mfbot> [[books]] MN http://microformats.org/wiki/books * Tantek * (+920)
  201. [10:26:32] * Snowden (n=some@c-67-171-198-120.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #microformats
  202. [10:37:56] * bergie (n=bergie@kone1.tmvvision.finnetcom.net) has joined #microformats
  203. [10:37:56] <jibot> bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
  204. [10:48:33] * Snowden (n=some@c-67-171-198-120.hsd1.or.comcast.net) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
  205. [10:55:00] * Snowden (n=some@c-67-171-198-120.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #microformats
  206. [11:12:30] <mfbot> [[events/2006-03-07-etech-microformats]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events/2006-03-07-etech-microformats&diff=0&oldid=5317 * Tantek * (-1164) finalized list of presenters, removed proposals section, updated summary
  207. [11:19:30] * friedcell (i=friedcel@BSN-77-78-252.dsl.siol.net) has joined #microformats
  208. [11:26:29] * danja (i=DannyAye@host156-218.pool80104.interbusiness.it) has joined #microformats
  209. [11:45:55] * LTjake (n=brian@h64-5-219-130.gtcust.grouptelecom.net) has joined #microformats
  210. [11:50:31] * Snowden (n=some@c-67-171-198-120.hsd1.or.comcast.net) Quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
  211. [12:03:20] * friedcell (i=friedcel@BSN-77-78-252.dsl.siol.net) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
  212. [12:53:10] * TantekC (n=Tantek@64.213.153.10) Quit (Remote closed the connection)
  213. [13:05:30] * Frederic (n=neuro@pdpc/supporter/active/neuro) Quit ("brb")
  214. [13:06:42] * Frederic (n=neuro@pdpc/supporter/active/neuro) has joined #microformats
  215. [13:33:36] * amette_ (n=amette@p54B88DDF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) Quit ("keep havin' fun")
  216. [13:36:27] * amette (n=amette@p54B88DDF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #microformats
  217. [14:06:50] * chimprawk (n=chimpraw@cpe-066-057-241-028.nc.res.rr.com) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
  218. [14:14:02] * TheMaecenati (n=TheMaece@adsl-71-132-212-69.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) Quit ()
  219. [14:21:58] * Snowden (n=some@c-67-171-198-120.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #microformats
  220. [14:24:57] * imajes (n=imajes@growl/imajes) Quit ()
  221. [14:27:04] * danja (i=DannyAye@host156-218.pool80104.interbusiness.it) Quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
  222. [14:29:42] * Snowden (n=some@c-67-171-198-120.hsd1.or.comcast.net) Quit ()
  223. [14:39:19] * bewest|work (n=bewest@httpcraft/bewest) has joined #microformats
  224. [14:42:21] * bkdelong (n=bkdelong@h-67-102-164-116.cmbrmaor.covad.net) has joined #microformats
  225. [14:47:24] * pnhChris (n=cac6982@c-68-81-161-155.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) has joined #microformats
  226. [14:47:24] <jibot> pnhChris is Chris Casciano, blogs at http://placenamehere.com/ , and a member of the Web Standards Project.
  227. [15:12:41] * KevinMarks (n=Snak@12.105.241.22) has joined #microformats
  228. [15:13:09] <mfbot> [[events/2006-03-07-etech-microformats]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events/2006-03-07-etech-microformats&diff=0&oldid=5318 * Craig Ogg * (+12) Attending -
  229. [15:16:08] * bergie (n=bergie@kone1.tmvvision.finnetcom.net) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
  230. [15:16:11] * bergie (n=bergie@kone1.tmvvision.finnetcom.net) has joined #microformats
  231. [15:19:09] * limbo_out (n=me@dsl081-055-160.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
  232. [15:25:31] * bkdelong (n=bkdelong@h-67-102-164-116.cmbrmaor.covad.net) Quit ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com")
  233. [15:43:00] * bkdelong (n=bkdelong@h-67-102-164-116.cmbrmaor.covad.net) has joined #microformats
  234. [15:43:00] <jibot> bkdelong is B.K. DeLong, Head Research Analyst for HALO Worldwide - http://www.haloworldwide.com. Web: http://www.brain-stream.com. Email: bkdelong@pobox.com and lives in Salem, MA, USA (-5:00 GMT)
  235. [15:56:35] * bergie (n=bergie@kone1.tmvvision.finnetcom.net) Quit ()
  236. [16:12:49] * blake_ (n=blake@alumnicc1.alumni.unc.edu) has joined #microformats
  237. [16:14:10] * Ragdoll (n=chatzill@rrcs-67-52-54-196.west.biz.rr.com) has joined #microformats
  238. [16:14:10] <jibot> Ragdoll is Justin McDowell (http://www.deadringerart.com). He works for the National Arbor Day Foundation as a multimedia designer.
  239. [16:16:45] * KevinMarks (n=Snak@pdpc/supporter/active/kevinmarks) Quit ("The computer fell asleep")
  240. [16:16:55] <Ragdoll> I was looking at the code4lib "Example in the Wild": http://www.code4lib.org/2006/schedule
  241. [16:18:06] <Ragdoll> I noticed they marked up their hCalendar events by seminar, not by events. Is this a proper use of vevent?
  242. [16:19:32] <Ragdoll> It seems like maybe there should be a separate microformat for "schedule" or something. As I understand it, hCal events are supposed to be entire events.
  243. [16:34:22] <Ragdoll> Also, the Property List on the hCard spec has been enormously helpful in consolidating some of the more practical information in one spot. Can something be done for the hCalendar spec, too? It saves so much time.
  244. [16:42:40] * bear_dinner is now known as bear
  245. [16:46:09] * pnhChris is now known as pnhAway
  246. [16:58:20] * KevinMarks (n=Snak@70.103.133.226) has joined #microformats
  247. [17:03:57] * blake_ (n=blake@alumnicc1.alumni.unc.edu) Quit ()
  248. [17:12:40] <tantek> Ragdoll, excellent suggestion, could you add it to the hcalendar-feedback page?
  249. [17:12:56] <tantek> (about the property list / hcalendar spec)
  250. [17:13:08] * KevinMarks (n=Snak@pdpc/supporter/active/kevinmarks) Quit (Excess Flood)
  251. [17:13:20] <tantek> also, hCal events are events, an hCalendar vcalendar represents an entire schedule
  252. [17:16:08] * blake_ (n=blake@alumnicc1.alumni.unc.edu) has joined #microformats
  253. [17:19:35] * KevinMarks (n=Snak@70.103.133.226) has joined #microformats
  254. [17:30:48] * TheMaecenati (n=TheMaece@adsl-71-132-212-69.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) has joined #microformats
  255. [17:31:40] * izo (n=izo@LNeuilly-152-23-33-39.w193-252.abo.wanadoo.fr) Quit ()
  256. [17:37:22] * tantek (n=tantek@64.213.153.10) Quit ()
  257. [17:38:55] * cee-dub (n=cee-dub@adsl-71-132-9-182.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) has joined #microformats
  258. [17:43:52] * factoryjoe (n=cmessina@70.103.133.226) has joined #microformats
  259. [17:44:49] * Enric (n=chatzill@c-67-188-10-66.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #microformats
  260. [17:44:49] <jibot> Enric is a media Software Developer and Videoblogger located at http://www.cirne.com
  261. [18:03:16] * hober (n=ted@unaffiliated/hober) has joined #microformats
  262. [18:03:16] <jibot> hober is Edward O'Connor and works for EVDB on http://eventful.com/ and lives in San Diego, CA (-08:00)
  263. [18:04:41] * friedcell (i=friedcel@BSN-77-78-252.dsl.siol.net) has joined #microformats
  264. [18:05:15] <mfbot> [[hcalendar-issues]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar-issues&diff=0&oldid=5319 * Ragdoll * (+357) Please add a Property List
  265. [18:05:38] * Enric (n=chatzill@c-67-188-10-66.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) Quit ("Chatzilla 0.9.70 [Firefox 1.5.0.1/2006011112]")
  266. [18:09:51] <Ragdoll> Am I correct in thinking?: dtstart should look something like this <abbr class="dtstart" title="2006-03-07"></abbr> and should not have a time specified, like this: <abbr class="dtstart" title="20060307T150000Z"></abbr>?
  267. [18:12:22] <KevinMarks> depends on whetehr you want an all day event or a specific time
  268. [18:14:04] * trovster (n=tr-vs73r@blakesheen.demon.co.uk) has joined #microformats
  269. [18:14:04] <jibot> trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and runs www.csslounge.co.uk
  270. [18:20:55] <Ragdoll> Okay, so if you want a specific time, you can use the second one... so how would dtend work, since it's exclusive and it has to be the day AFTER the the day event gets over. What if you wanted a specific ending time?
  271. [18:24:20] <Ragdoll> (And I'm assuming the T stands for time, but what does the Z at the end stand for?)
  272. [18:26:41] * KevinMarks (n=Snak@pdpc/supporter/active/kevinmarks) Quit ("The computer fell asleep")
  273. [18:38:52] <davecardwell> time zone?
  274. [18:38:54] <hober> Ragdoll: GMT
  275. [18:39:34] <hober> or whatever the politically-correct name du jour is for that time
  276. [18:40:41] <davecardwell> UTC
  277. [18:58:23] * amanuel (n=amanuel@d150-138-173.home.cgocable.net) Quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
  278. [19:03:39] * TantekC (n=Tantek@70.103.133.226) has joined #microformats
  279. [19:12:49] * Snowden (n=some@c-67-171-198-120.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #microformats
  280. [19:25:55] * TantekC (n=Tantek@70.103.133.226) Quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
  281. [19:38:18] * TheMaecenati (n=TheMaece@adsl-71-132-212-69.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) Quit ()
  282. [19:41:38] <MarkB> http://spaces.msn.com/editorial/rayozzie/demo/liveclip/liveclipsample/clipboardexample.html
  283. [19:42:01] <MarkB> something he's showing at ETech, I take it
  284. [19:42:11] <MarkB> cool. cut-and-paste microformats.
  285. [19:43:54] * KevinMarks (n=Snak@70.103.133.226) has joined #microformats
  286. [19:46:09] * rohit__ (n=rohit@70.103.133.226) has joined #microformats
  287. [19:47:36] <rohit__> http://spaces.msn.com/editorial/rayozzie/demo/liveclip/liveclipsample/clipboardexample.html
  288. [19:47:36] <rohit__> it parses, but beware of looking at: http://spaces.msn.com/editorial/rayozzie/demo/liveclip/liveclipsample/microformats/hCard.js
  289. [19:47:52] <jonnay> wow. that is pretty freakin slick.
  290. [19:48:00] * blake_ (n=blake@alumnicc1.alumni.unc.edu) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
  291. [19:50:42] * rohit__ (n=rohit@70.103.133.226) Quit (Remote closed the connection)
  292. [19:50:51] * foolswisdom (n=lloyd@71-6-0-194-cust.telepacific.net) has joined #microformats
  293. [19:56:56] <MarkB> beat you to it, rohit 8-)
  294. [19:57:45] * TantekC (n=Tantek@70.103.133.226) has joined #microformats
  295. [20:00:16] * danja (i=DannyAye@host146-218.pool80104.interbusiness.it) has joined #microformats
  296. [20:08:14] * blake_ (n=blake@dsl093-240-087.ral1.dsl.speakeasy.net) has joined #microformats
  297. [20:11:44] * TantekC (n=Tantek@70.103.133.226) Quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
  298. [20:12:01] * bear is now known as bear_lunch
  299. [20:13:10] * izo (n=izo@boi59-1-82-66-128-84.fbx.proxad.net) has joined #microformats
  300. [20:15:37] * valmont (n=chrishol@pdpc/supporter/silver/valmont) Quit ()
  301. [20:27:35] * tantek (n=tantek@64.213.153.10) has joined #microformats
  302. [20:27:35] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
  303. [20:27:50] * ChanServ sets mode +o tantek
  304. [20:29:46] * factoryjoe (n=cmessina@70.103.133.226) Quit ()
  305. [20:32:27] * amette (n=amette@p54B88DDF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) Quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host))
  306. [20:34:21] * imajes (n=imajes@growl/imajes) has joined #microformats
  307. [20:34:46] * amette (n=amette@p54B88DDF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #microformats
  308. [20:40:43] * jcgregorio (n=chatzill@70.103.133.226) has joined #microformats
  309. [20:41:35] * Snowden (n=some@c-67-171-198-120.hsd1.or.comcast.net) Quit ()
  310. [20:44:51] * tantek sets mode +o KevinMarks
  311. [20:45:27] <tantek> ok, i have marked up speakers.html. a little global search replace, a little scan and span, that didn't take too long. only 110 hcards ;)
  312. [20:45:42] <jcgregorio> w00t!
  313. [20:46:22] <jcgregorio> tantek: got your email, thanks!
  314. [20:46:32] <tantek> joe, awesome
  315. [20:46:41] <KevinMarks> nice
  316. [20:46:43] <tantek> can you compress your demo into 5 min?
  317. [20:46:47] <jcgregorio> yes
  318. [20:46:58] <tantek> and how about you Kevin, all ready to go with a 5 min only tags demo?
  319. [20:47:58] <jcgregorio> is everyone down at lunch yet?
  320. [20:49:01] <jcgregorio> I'll take that as a yes :)
  321. [20:49:04] * jcgregorio (n=chatzill@70.103.133.226) Quit ("Chatzilla 0.9.68.5.1 [Firefox 1.0.7/20051010]")
  322. [20:58:56] <KevinMarks> getting there, T
  323. [21:00:44] * bear_lunch is now known as bear_mtg
  324. [21:01:14] * bear_mtg is now known as bear
  325. [21:07:27] * KevinMarks (n=Snak@pdpc/supporter/active/kevinmarks) Quit ("The computer fell asleep")
  326. [21:17:19] * LTjake (n=brian@h64-5-219-130.gtcust.grouptelecom.net) Quit ("Chatzilla 0.9.71 [Firefox 1.5.0.1/2006011112]")
  327. [21:17:26] * bear is now known as bear_mtg
  328. [21:18:03] * valmont (n=chrishol@germany.pspdev.pas.earthlink.net) has joined #microformats
  329. [21:23:07] <mfbot> [[hcard-issues]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-issues&diff=0&oldid=5320 * Tantek * (+342) should we make 3 word fns into a shorthand for "given additional family" (names of course)
  330. [21:24:29] * ngd (n=neil@host-212-158-234-101.bulldogdsl.com) has joined #microformats
  331. [21:24:57] * kingryan (n=kingryan@dsl081-240-149.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net) has joined #microformats
  332. [21:24:57] <jibot> kingryan is ryan king
  333. [21:25:02] * ChanServ sets mode +o kingryan
  334. [21:25:54] <kingryan> tantek, ray ozzie + microformats?
  335. [21:37:48] <mfbot> [[hcard]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard&diff=0&oldid=5321 * JonathanAquino * (+205) Examples in the wild -
  336. [21:38:19] <mfbot> [[hcard]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard&diff=0&oldid=5322 * JonathanAquino * (+0) Examples in the wild -
  337. [21:38:51] <tantek> kingryan, yes
  338. [21:39:12] <tantek> he demo's hCard and hCalendar copy/paste from one web page to another
  339. [21:39:23] <tantek> where the web pages were publishing the content as hCard / hCalendar
  340. [21:40:59] <bewest|work> copy/paste from one web page to another?
  341. [21:41:01] <bewest|work> what does that mean?
  342. [21:42:02] * TimC_ is now known as TimC
  343. [21:42:33] <kingryan> tantek, when's your demo?
  344. [21:42:43] <tantek> 5:30pm
  345. [21:42:56] <kingryan> k, I have the bug fixed, see my sandbox
  346. [21:43:13] <bewest|work> nifty
  347. [21:43:30] <tantek> bewest, consider a page which publishes an event, which you copy, and then go to your Outlook Web Access, and paste, and then see the even magically show up in your OWA calendar.
  348. [21:44:17] <bewest|work> hmmm
  349. [21:44:21] <bewest|work> that is nifty
  350. [21:44:38] <bewest|work> have you seen delicious director?
  351. [21:44:56] <kingryan> yeah, more than copy/paste, they have a pasteboard daemon that watches for formatted content and puts it in right format to work w/ other MS stuff
  352. [21:45:17] * jcgregorio (n=chatzill@70.103.133.226) has joined #microformats
  353. [21:45:23] <bewest|work> the other day I was considering a service simliar to delicious, but that operated on microformats, with a brokering interface similar to director (again, that operates on microformats, such as hcard)
  354. [21:45:49] * blake_ (n=blake@dsl093-240-087.ral1.dsl.speakeasy.net) Quit ()
  355. [21:57:03] * KevinMarks (n=Snak@70.103.133.226) has joined #microformats
  356. [21:57:17] * bear_mtg is now known as bear
  357. [22:02:25] * tantek sets mode +o KevinMarks
  358. [22:06:23] * kingryan (n=kingryan@dsl081-240-149.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net) Quit ()
  359. [22:08:19] * bewest|work (n=bewest@httpcraft/bewest) has left #microformats
  360. [22:13:47] * imajes (n=imajes@growl/imajes) Quit ()
  361. [22:19:09] * factoryjoe (n=cmessina@64.213.153.10) has joined #microformats
  362. [22:20:39] * limbo_ (n=limbo@hellonline.com) has joined #microformats
  363. [22:20:39] <jibot> limbo_ is Eran and blogs at http://hellonline.com/blog/
  364. [22:26:09] * friedcell (i=friedcel@BSN-77-78-252.dsl.siol.net) Quit ("Those who ignore standards are doomed to reinvent them")
  365. [22:32:09] * factoryjoe (n=cmessina@64.213.153.10) Quit ()
  366. [22:34:41] <trovster> http://flickr.com/photos/factoryjoe/104456062/ schweet.
  367. [22:37:44] * cee-dub (n=cee-dub@adsl-71-132-9-182.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) Quit ()
  368. [22:50:02] * danja-alt (i=DannyAye@host146-218.pool80104.interbusiness.it) has joined #microformats
  369. [22:50:02] * danja (i=DannyAye@host146-218.pool80104.interbusiness.it) Quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
  370. [22:55:22] * KevinMarks (n=Snak@pdpc/supporter/active/kevinmarks) Quit (Connection reset by peer)
  371. [22:55:23] * epeus (n=Snak@70.103.133.226) has joined #microformats
  372. [23:08:11] * trovster (n=tr-vs73r@blakesheen.demon.co.uk) Quit ()
  373. [23:08:50] * ngd (n=neil@host-212-158-234-101.bulldogdsl.com) Quit ("leaving")
  374. [23:17:28] * LTjake (n=brian@CPE0011506c8049-CM0013711405ec.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined #microformats
  375. [23:28:28] * imajes (n=imajes@growl/imajes) has joined #microformats
  376. [23:30:45] * izo (n=izo@boi59-1-82-66-128-84.fbx.proxad.net) Quit ()
  377. [23:32:14] * Ragdoll (n=chatzill@rrcs-67-52-54-196.west.biz.rr.com) Quit ("Chatzilla 0.9.70 [Firefox 1.5.0.1/2006011112]")
  378. [23:34:19] * pnhAway is now known as pnhChris
  379. [23:34:21] * karlUshi (n=karl@dhcp-246-59.mag.keio.ac.jp) has joined #microformats
  380. [23:34:21] <jibot> karlUshi is karlcow
  381. [23:47:15] * keithalexander (n=keithale@87.113.6.88.bbplus.pte-ag1.dyn.plus.net) has joined #microformats
  382. [23:56:17] * foolswisdom (n=lloyd@71-6-0-194-cust.telepacific.net) has left #microformats

These logs were automatically created by mflogbot on chat.freenode.net using a modified version of the Java IRC LogBot.

See http://microformats.org/wiki/mflogbot for more information.