IRC Log for #microformats on 2006-03-12

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  16. [03:23:12] <bewest> the hcard-o-matic is only good for US addresses :-(
  17. [03:23:49] <bewest> any one seen a nice form that lets you enter international addresses?
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  19. [03:33:27] <bewest> are there examples of hcard used to mark up foreign locations?
  20. [03:33:38] <bewest> would be nice to have a menagerie of them
  21. [03:34:09] <bewest> is there a particular place that such a menagerie would be preferred on the wiki?
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  41. [06:01:02] <jibot> Enric is a media Software Developer and Videoblogger located at http://www.cirne.com
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  43. [06:50:04] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  45. [06:52:54] <Frederic> Hi tantek
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  50. [08:21:56] <KevinMarks> http://flickr.com/photos/jrnoded/110363659/
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  61. [15:37:34] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  83. [16:38:45] <kingryan> microformats lunch tomorrow, for anyone at sxsw
  84. [16:40:18] <Zeeshan_M> Free lunch?
  85. [16:48:06] <kingryan> free? not quite
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  93. [17:42:48] <jibot> briansuda is brian suda of X2V fame
  94. [17:42:58] <mfbot> [[events/2006-03-13-sxsw-microformats]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events/2006-03-13-sxsw-microformats&diff=0&oldid=5377 * Tantek * (+169) updates and tweaks, added Jeremy Keith
  95. [17:50:25] <TantekC> greetings
  96. [17:50:49] <briansuda> hello
  97. [17:51:55] <TantekC> take a look at http://microformats.org/wiki/events/2006-03-13-sxsw-microformats and help out with stuff in the To Do section
  98. [17:58:26] <briansuda> i'm looking through the ToDo and some of those pages are MASSIVE! i'll markup the microformat's presentation at SxSW on Monday with vevent - i can do that now
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  106. [19:35:08] <mfbot> [[events/2006-03-13-sxsw-microformats]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events/2006-03-13-sxsw-microformats&diff=0&oldid=5378 * RobertBachmann * (+79) To Do - Added hCards to "SXSWi tradeshow exhibitor list"
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  123. [20:32:54] <bewest> how does region, locality, and postal-code map to properties in international address formats?
  124. [20:33:14] <DanC_AUS> pretty well, I think, bewest . Got an examples?
  125. [20:33:26] <bewest> I've been looking for examples
  126. [20:33:40] <bewest> I vaguely remember my trip to singapore though
  127. [20:33:47] <briansuda> region, locality, postal-code IS the internation format, city-state-zip is US centric
  128. [20:33:57] <briansuda> region would be state
  129. [20:33:59] <bewest> where part of the address was like a sub-city kind of area, with the building block, the building number, and then the apt number
  130. [20:34:01] <briansuda> locality is city
  131. [20:34:06] <briansuda> postal-code is zip
  132. [20:35:52] <bewest> I know how it maps in the US
  133. [20:36:23] <bewest> just curious to see mappings in foreign and strange (to me) places
  134. [20:36:29] <briansuda> that is what it would also map to elsewhere, do you have an example?
  135. [20:36:56] <bewest> hrm
  136. [20:37:04] <briansuda> there is a street and post-box (maybe a street-additional)
  137. [20:41:11] <bewest> yeah ok
  138. [20:41:14] <bewest> maybe it's not a problem
  139. [20:41:17] <bewest> I'm looking at examples now
  140. [20:41:28] <bewest> but, it's hard for me to know if they are any good or not
  141. [20:41:47] <bewest> I have a database of locations where properties are classified as adminarea1 - adminarea5
  142. [20:42:02] <bewest> and there does seem to be a decent mapping there
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  144. [20:44:43] <bewest> http://churchzip.com/map/1.5928123762763,103.53515625,12 click on a red marker. you'll have to zoom out as my zooming thing seems broke atm
  145. [20:44:53] <bewest> the markers should have hcard formatting
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  149. [20:50:32] <cks> tantekc: are you doing another panel? missed yesterday's...
  150. [20:51:01] <briansuda> OK, i think i found a reference for the ADR issue. vCard addresses are based on ISO/IEC 11180 Postal addressing, International Organization for Standardization, 1993
  151. [20:52:38] <bewest> oh great
  152. [20:53:01] <mfbot> [[events/2006-03-13-sxsw-microformats]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events/2006-03-13-sxsw-microformats&diff=0&oldid=5379 * RobertBachmann * (+73) To Do - Added hCards to SXSWi speakers
  153. [20:53:11] <briansuda> i can't find the actual ISO document, but if you can then it should be helpful in mapping addresses
  154. [20:53:14] <bewest> we are using NIMA
  155. [20:53:51] <briansuda> places like China's addresses might not actually be ISO addresses so they can't be mapped correctly.
  156. [20:57:07] <TantekC> cks, there is the microformats panel tomorrow at 11:30am
  157. [20:57:57] <cks> tantekc: thanks, i don't know how i missed that.
  158. [20:58:09] <cks> conference overload :-)
  159. [20:59:21] <TantekC> cks, wiki page for the talk here: http://microformats.org/wiki/events/2006-03-13-sxsw-microformats
  160. [20:59:33] <TantekC> being updated live by folks in this channel ;)
  161. [21:00:24] <cks> ok, so i obviously put no effort at all into finding out the anwer to my question in advance of asking it. sigh.
  162. [21:00:39] <bewest> briansuda: heh, the ISO 11180:1993 on Postal Addressing was Withdrawn: 2004-01-15
  163. [21:00:40] <cks> need more coffee
  164. [21:00:56] <bewest> I remember reading that somewhere else too
  165. [21:01:04] <bewest> http://www.iso.org/iso/en/CatalogueWithdrawnDetailPage.CatalogueWithdrawnDetail?CSNUMBER=19185
  166. [21:01:24] <TantekC> briansuda, i'm afraid to ask why you are worrying about ISO 11180:1993
  167. [21:02:17] <bewest> http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/postal.html: ISO International Standard 11180, "Postal Addressing" (1993) (withdrawn 15 Jan 2004), by the way, was no help at all, except that it contained a reference to the Universal Postal Union:
  168. [21:02:18] <bewest> he wasn't
  169. [21:02:20] <briansuda> there was a question earlier about how to map some strange addresses to hCard, that is the ISO document referenced, so following the refs back to that might help to say REGION is equal to ??? in asia
  170. [21:02:21] <bewest> I was
  171. [21:02:30] <DanC_AUS> The address of the royal casino hotel in france was a mystery to me. I spent several hours trying to figure out the locality, region, etc.
  172. [21:02:49] <DanC_AUS> turns out it has 2 postal-codes
  173. [21:02:52] <TantekC> hmm... did someone document this in /wiki/hcard-faq ?
  174. [21:03:31] * DanC_AUS wants a microformats.org t-shirt
  175. [21:03:37] <briansuda> this is the first i have heard about it.
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  178. [21:05:20] <TantekC> cks, if you have a moment, take a look at http://www.austinbloggers.org/blog/a/001123.html
  179. [21:05:36] <TantekC> that definitely deserves to be added to hCalendar "Examples in the Wild" section
  180. [21:06:23] <TantekC> the microformats t-shirts haven't showed up yet in Austin :(
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  200. [21:15:47] <mfbot> [[hcard]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard&diff=0&oldid=5380 * BenWest * (+223) Examples in the wild -
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  211. [21:54:03] <cks> i'm slow here, what's the t-shirts thing?
  212. [21:54:12] <cks> wait, it's probably on the wiki
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  215. [22:09:15] <mfbot> [[irc]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=irc&diff=0&oldid=5381 * Jonathan Arkell * (+47) Added myself to the list
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  218. [22:14:06] <mfbot> [[User:Jonathan Arkell]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:Jonathan_Arkell&diff=0&oldid=5382 * Jonathan Arkell * (+368) Jonathan Arkell -
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  224. [22:49:07] <TantekC> for folks at SXSW - what do you think of doing a microformats lunch just after the microformats panel tomorrow at 12:30?
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  227. [22:54:12] <jibot> kingryan is ryan king
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  231. [22:55:21] <jibot> briansuda is brian suda of X2V fame
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  237. [23:50:59] <jibot> Enric is a media Software Developer and Videoblogger located at http://www.cirne.com
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  239. [23:55:03] <jibot> karlUshi is karlcow
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