IRC Log for #microformats on 2006-03-12
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kingryan is ryan king
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- [03:23:12] <bewest>
the hcard-o-matic is only good for US addresses :-(
- [03:23:49] <bewest>
any one seen a nice form that lets you enter international addresses?
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are there examples of hcard used to mark up foreign locations?
- [03:33:38] <bewest>
would be nice to have a menagerie of them
- [03:34:09] <bewest>
is there a particular place that such a menagerie would be preferred on the wiki?
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blake is allegedly human. Blake, also known as Cortland M. Setlow, studies at swarthmore.edu and enjoys building things, exploring buildings, and physics. He currently sleeps during the day.
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Enric is a media Software Developer and Videoblogger located at http://www.cirne.com
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tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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- [06:52:54] <Frederic>
Hi tantek
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http://flickr.com/photos/jrnoded/110363659/
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tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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kingryan is ryan king
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pnhChris is Chris Casciano, blogs at http://placenamehere.com/ , and a member of the Web Standards Project.
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tara is Miss Rogue and the rogue marketer behind riya and the one blogging at www.horsepigcow.com
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kingryan is ryan king
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- [16:38:45] <kingryan>
microformats lunch tomorrow, for anyone at sxsw
- [16:40:18] <Zeeshan_M>
Free lunch?
- [16:48:06] <kingryan>
free? not quite
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kingryan is ryan king
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briansuda is brian suda of X2V fame
- [17:42:58] <mfbot>
[[events/2006-03-13-sxsw-microformats]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events/2006-03-13-sxsw-microformats&diff=0&oldid=5377 * Tantek * (+169) updates and tweaks, added Jeremy Keith
- [17:50:25] <TantekC>
greetings
- [17:50:49] <briansuda>
hello
- [17:51:55] <TantekC>
take a look at http://microformats.org/wiki/events/2006-03-13-sxsw-microformats and help out with stuff in the To Do section
- [17:58:26] <briansuda>
i'm looking through the ToDo and some of those pages are MASSIVE! i'll markup the microformat's presentation at SxSW on Monday with vevent - i can do that now
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[[events/2006-03-13-sxsw-microformats]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events/2006-03-13-sxsw-microformats&diff=0&oldid=5378 * RobertBachmann * (+79) To Do - Added hCards to "SXSWi tradeshow exhibitor list"
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briansuda is brian suda of X2V fame
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kingryan is ryan king
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- [20:32:54] <bewest>
how does region, locality, and postal-code map to properties in international address formats?
- [20:33:14] <DanC_AUS>
pretty well, I think, bewest . Got an examples?
- [20:33:26] <bewest>
I've been looking for examples
- [20:33:40] <bewest>
I vaguely remember my trip to singapore though
- [20:33:47] <briansuda>
region, locality, postal-code IS the internation format, city-state-zip is US centric
- [20:33:57] <briansuda>
region would be state
- [20:33:59] <bewest>
where part of the address was like a sub-city kind of area, with the building block, the building number, and then the apt number
- [20:34:01] <briansuda>
locality is city
- [20:34:06] <briansuda>
postal-code is zip
- [20:35:52] <bewest>
I know how it maps in the US
- [20:36:23] <bewest>
just curious to see mappings in foreign and strange (to me) places
- [20:36:29] <briansuda>
that is what it would also map to elsewhere, do you have an example?
- [20:36:56] <bewest>
hrm
- [20:37:04] <briansuda>
there is a street and post-box (maybe a street-additional)
- [20:41:11] <bewest>
yeah ok
- [20:41:14] <bewest>
maybe it's not a problem
- [20:41:17] <bewest>
I'm looking at examples now
- [20:41:28] <bewest>
but, it's hard for me to know if they are any good or not
- [20:41:47] <bewest>
I have a database of locations where properties are classified as adminarea1 - adminarea5
- [20:42:02] <bewest>
and there does seem to be a decent mapping there
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http://churchzip.com/map/1.5928123762763,103.53515625,12 click on a red marker. you'll have to zoom out as my zooming thing seems broke atm
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the markers should have hcard formatting
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- [20:50:32] <cks>
tantekc: are you doing another panel? missed yesterday's...
- [20:51:01] <briansuda>
OK, i think i found a reference for the ADR issue. vCard addresses are based on ISO/IEC 11180 Postal addressing, International Organization for Standardization, 1993
- [20:52:38] <bewest>
oh great
- [20:53:01] <mfbot>
[[events/2006-03-13-sxsw-microformats]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events/2006-03-13-sxsw-microformats&diff=0&oldid=5379 * RobertBachmann * (+73) To Do - Added hCards to SXSWi speakers
- [20:53:11] <briansuda>
i can't find the actual ISO document, but if you can then it should be helpful in mapping addresses
- [20:53:14] <bewest>
we are using NIMA
- [20:53:51] <briansuda>
places like China's addresses might not actually be ISO addresses so they can't be mapped correctly.
- [20:57:07] <TantekC>
cks, there is the microformats panel tomorrow at 11:30am
- [20:57:57] <cks>
tantekc: thanks, i don't know how i missed that.
- [20:58:09] <cks>
conference overload :-)
- [20:59:21] <TantekC>
cks, wiki page for the talk here: http://microformats.org/wiki/events/2006-03-13-sxsw-microformats
- [20:59:33] <TantekC>
being updated live by folks in this channel ;)
- [21:00:24] <cks>
ok, so i obviously put no effort at all into finding out the anwer to my question in advance of asking it. sigh.
- [21:00:39] <bewest>
briansuda: heh, the ISO 11180:1993 on Postal Addressing was Withdrawn: 2004-01-15
- [21:00:40] <cks>
need more coffee
- [21:00:56] <bewest>
I remember reading that somewhere else too
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http://www.iso.org/iso/en/CatalogueWithdrawnDetailPage.CatalogueWithdrawnDetail?CSNUMBER=19185
- [21:01:24] <TantekC>
briansuda, i'm afraid to ask why you are worrying about ISO 11180:1993
- [21:02:17] <bewest>
http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/postal.html: ISO International Standard 11180, "Postal Addressing" (1993) (withdrawn 15 Jan 2004), by the way, was no help at all, except that it contained a reference to the Universal Postal Union:
- [21:02:18] <bewest>
he wasn't
- [21:02:20] <briansuda>
there was a question earlier about how to map some strange addresses to hCard, that is the ISO document referenced, so following the refs back to that might help to say REGION is equal to ??? in asia
- [21:02:21] <bewest>
I was
- [21:02:30] <DanC_AUS>
The address of the royal casino hotel in france was a mystery to me. I spent several hours trying to figure out the locality, region, etc.
- [21:02:49] <DanC_AUS>
turns out it has 2 postal-codes
- [21:02:52] <TantekC>
hmm... did someone document this in /wiki/hcard-faq ?
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- [21:03:37] <briansuda>
this is the first i have heard about it.
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- [21:05:20] <TantekC>
cks, if you have a moment, take a look at http://www.austinbloggers.org/blog/a/001123.html
- [21:05:36] <TantekC>
that definitely deserves to be added to hCalendar "Examples in the Wild" section
- [21:06:23] <TantekC>
the microformats t-shirts haven't showed up yet in Austin :(
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[[hcard]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard&diff=0&oldid=5380 * BenWest * (+223) Examples in the wild -
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pnhChris is Chris Casciano, blogs at http://placenamehere.com/ , and a member of the Web Standards Project.
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- [21:54:03] <cks>
i'm slow here, what's the t-shirts thing?
- [21:54:12] <cks>
wait, it's probably on the wiki
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[[irc]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=irc&diff=0&oldid=5381 * Jonathan Arkell * (+47) Added myself to the list
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[[User:Jonathan Arkell]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:Jonathan_Arkell&diff=0&oldid=5382 * Jonathan Arkell * (+368) Jonathan Arkell -
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for folks at SXSW - what do you think of doing a microformats lunch just after the microformats panel tomorrow at 12:30?
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kingryan is ryan king
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briansuda is brian suda of X2V fame
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Enric is a media Software Developer and Videoblogger located at http://www.cirne.com
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karlUshi is karlcow
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