IRC Log for #microformats on 2006-04-02

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  6. [01:17:45] <jibot> BenjaminCarlyle is http://soundadvice.id.au/blog/, GMT 1000
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  18. [03:24:33] <jibot> mlinksva is Mike Linksvayer and from Creative Commons
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  23. [05:14:07] <Atamido> Clever. http://machinereadable.blogspot.com/2006/04/cure-for-information-overload.html
  24. [05:22:01] <bewest> Atamido: gah
  25. [05:22:49] <Atamido> Just one more step in making the internet useless. :)
  26. [05:23:09] <bewest> yeah
  27. [05:23:13] <bewest> not good
  28. [05:23:25] <bewest> especially for gullible fellows like me who can't resist clicking on a link
  29. [05:23:29] <bewest> for some reason I'm still clicking
  30. [05:23:35] <bewest> my curiosity demands to know where this ends
  31. [05:23:38] <bewest> and who is responsible
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  42. [08:01:47] <mfbot> [[rest/rails]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=rest/rails&diff=0&oldid=5670 * Fil * (+0) Examples (TBD) - fix typo
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  49. [12:42:40] <mfbot> [[class-design-pattern]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=class-design-pattern&diff=0&oldid=5671 * MatthiasLuedtke * (+1) See Also -
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  53. [14:09:34] <jibot> Jonnay is a programmer, graphic designer and musician. He blogs at http://blog.jonnay.net and his music is at http://www.jonnay.net
  54. [16:02:47] <mfbot> [[presentations]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=presentations&diff=0&oldid=5672 * Tantek * (+139)
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  57. [16:05:40] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  59. [16:05:46] <jibot> bkdelong is B.K. DeLong, Head Research Analyst for HALO Worldwide - http://www.haloworldwide.com. Web: http://www.brain-stream.com. Email: bkdelong@pobox.com and lives in Salem, MA, USA (-5:00 GMT)
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  61. [16:11:51] <tantek> greetings
  62. [16:12:48] <Frederic> Good evening tantek
  63. [16:12:56] <tantek> I've realized recently that there have been a bunch of podcasts that have discussed/mentioned microformats, across a number of sites, and that it might be useful to keep track of them on a wiki page.
  64. [16:18:38] <mfbot> [[podcasts]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/podcasts * Tantek * (+1268) first draft
  65. [16:22:34] <mfbot> [[podcasts]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=podcasts&diff=0&oldid=5673 * Tantek * (+38)
  66. [16:22:46] <_fil_> there's an inconsistency between http://microformats.org/wiki/hatom#Entry_Content and http://microformats.org/wiki/hatom#Schema
  67. [16:23:15] <mfbot> [[introduction]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=introduction&diff=0&oldid=5674 * Tantek * (+14)
  68. [16:23:33] <_fil_> entry-content *SHOULD* be present; but it's also *required*
  69. [16:23:46] * _fil_ thinks it's optional
  70. [16:25:36] <mfbot> [[Main Page]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Main_Page&diff=0&oldid=5675 * Tantek * (+15) Introduction -
  71. [16:28:07] <mfbot> [[press]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=press&diff=0&oldid=5676 * Tantek * (+15)
  72. [16:30:49] <tantek> _fil_, you've made a good point about keeping specs short and minimal ;)
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  74. [16:44:45] <_fil_> i think "required" is not clear in what it means
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  76. [17:11:33] <jibot> tara is Miss Rogue and the rogue marketer behind riya and the one blogging at www.horsepigcow.com
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  79. [17:36:44] <rawtext> I was just thinking, regarding markup in general, has there been a proposed attr for specifying tone of vioce, mood, or what have you?
  80. [17:38:22] <rawtext> would this be a good idea?
  81. [17:39:37] <rawtext> I'm sure it's been talked about, maybe I should bring it up in the w3c html mail list.
  82. [17:41:03] <rawtext> I have no idea what sparked this idea, I was just working on tracking a paragraph to the shape of an image, and the idea just randomly popped in to my head.
  83. [17:44:27] <tantek> rawtext, the closest equivalent to that are <em> and <strong>
  84. [17:44:33] <rawtext> right
  85. [17:44:53] <rawtext> that's it! I was using em's to track the lines of text, which is probably why I had the idea.
  86. [17:45:36] <tantek> there have been proposals for <em> with a "level" attribute that took an integer, negative for deemphasis, positive for more emphasis
  87. [17:46:21] <tantek> as far as tone of voice/mood in general, good luck on finding a way to represent that internationally across cultures/languages
  88. [17:46:38] <rawtext> ah, I can't seem to think of what an attr like this would be used for other than letting the user know the mood.
  89. [17:46:57] <tantek> it could be used for styling purposes
  90. [17:47:15] <tantek> different moods could get different colors, or different literally tones of voice when being spoken by a screen reader
  91. [17:47:42] <rawtext> yeah, well thanks for the input tantek, I'm back to work.
  92. [17:48:04] <tantek> in practice I have seen quite a bit of use of the </sarcasm> tag (start tag always implied)
  93. [18:04:14] <Jonnay> tantek: just how international are microformats anyway?
  94. [18:05:04] <Jonnay> i mean, hRsume means something to english speakers, but it doesn't have meaning to someone who speaks only japanese.
  95. [18:09:55] <tantek> jonnay - that sounds like a hypothetical statement, unless you are Japanese or have a specific point of feedback to make.
  96. [18:10:18] <tantek> to answer your question
  97. [18:10:47] <tantek> to the extent that microformats are based on real world behaviors on the *World* Wide Web, microformats reflect current international web publishing behaviors
  98. [18:12:06] <tantek> similarly, to the extent that microformats reuse and leverage terminology and semantics from standards which themselves were internationally vetted (e.g. vCard and iCalendar), microformats are international friendly
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  105. [18:43:11] <jibot> pnhChris is Chris Casciano, blogs at http://placenamehere.com/ , and a member of the Web Standards Project.
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  107. [18:48:57] <mfbot> [[podcasts]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=podcasts&diff=0&oldid=5677 * Tantek * (+1812) added TalkCrunch ep2 about microformats and decentralized social networking
  108. [19:02:42] <tantek> take a look at http://microformats.org/wiki/podcasts and feel free to add links to any more podcasts you know about that discuss microformats.
  109. [19:05:19] <mfbot> [[podcasts]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=podcasts&diff=0&oldid=5678 * Tantek * (+211) note about filter and encouragement
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  119. [20:40:10] <jibot> trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and runs www.csslounge.co.uk
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  124. [21:07:18] <jibot> mlinksva is Mike Linksvayer and from Creative Commons
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  132. [22:42:14] <jibot> tara is Miss Rogue and the rogue marketer behind riya and the one blogging at www.horsepigcow.com
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  134. [22:53:08] <jibot> bkdelong is B.K. DeLong, Head Research Analyst for HALO Worldwide - http://www.haloworldwide.com. Web: http://www.brain-stream.com. Email: bkdelong@pobox.com and lives in Salem, MA, USA (-5:00 GMT)
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