IRC Log for #microformats on 2006-04-20

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  5. [00:24:30] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  7. [00:38:00] <mfbot> [[rest]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=rest&diff=0&oldid=5949 * DrErnie * (+73) Discussion Forums - REST on Rails
  8. [00:50:11] <mfbot> [[rest/rails]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=rest/rails&diff=0&oldid=5950 * DrErnie * (+273) Examples (TBD) -
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  24. [02:40:14] <jibot> cks is Christopher St. John and has a brain filled with inane drivel from irc chat logs
  25. [02:42:17] <cks> i've been using a chat format that somebody else came up with: <div class="message">
  26. [02:42:20] <cks> <abbr title="2006-02-08T00:13:46+00:00">00:15:33</abbr>
  27. [02:42:22] <cks> <cite>tantek</cite>
  28. [02:42:25] <cks> <q>this is some commment or another</q>
  29. [02:42:26] <tantek> hello cks
  30. [02:42:28] <cks> </div>
  31. [02:42:36] <cks> tantek: howdy
  32. [02:43:10] <cks> anyone remember who came up with what i just posted? i can't find my darned note, and digging through the mailing list archive has been frustrating
  33. [02:43:53] <cks> it was somebody who hangs out on this channel, i know that much :-)
  34. [02:44:03] <tantek> I've suggested using <cite> and <blockquote> inside an ordered list
  35. [02:44:26] <tantek> it was in one of the "Elements of Meaningful XHTML" talks
  36. [02:45:59] <cks> i pretty sure i read that, but i actually copied it from someplace else. i had a conversation with the person about it. it's driving me up the wall.
  37. [02:47:43] <tantek> cks, view source on http://rbach.priv.at/Microformats-IRC/2006-04-20
  38. [02:47:55] <tantek> :)
  39. [02:50:39] <cks> there we go, i do believe that was my (direct) source
  40. [02:51:28] <cks> thank you
  41. [02:52:12] <tantek> no problem. something very matrixy about viewing source on your current (virtual) reality
  42. [02:53:58] <cks> yeah, i actually looked at it when i was trying to find who i talked to previously, but i was remembering <div> and stopped when i saw the <li>
  43. [02:54:42] <tantek> note that our current channel archive logs are using an "experiment in the wild", not an actual "microformat" per se.
  44. [02:55:52] <tantek> we should still walk through the process of documenting examples, implied schema, existing formats, property names etc. if we want to develop a "common" irc chat log microformat which is interchangeable between archivers (IRC clients) and archive viewers etc.
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  46. [03:06:03] <jibot> briansuda is brian suda of X2V fame
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  51. [03:37:56] <cks> tantek: yep. the weirdness so far has been that the majority of the "examples" are arguably app-generated "formats". makes it very tempting to just engineer up a cool new format rather than standardize a microformat... on that note, i should probably be off example hunting :-)
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  64. [04:51:57] <kerihenare> quite channel, huh?
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  67. [05:00:01] <jibot> cks is Christopher St. John and has a brain filled with inane drivel from irc chat logs
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  69. [05:13:09] <kingryan> kerihenare, it was busier earlier
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  71. [05:37:22] <kerihenare> yeah I guess my +12 hour offset means that I'm likely to be here during the slow periods
  72. [05:39:27] <kingryan> yeah, it was more active during afternoon hours for North Americans
  73. [05:40:49] <kerihenare> oh well I'll be running on their time in 7 weeks anyway
  74. [05:43:01] <kingryan> moving?
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  82. [05:50:29] <kerihenare> travelling in america for 5 months
  83. [05:52:39] <kerihenare> including 2 months working at a summer camp in pennsylvania
  84. [06:13:04] <kingryan> that's cool kerihenare
  85. [06:13:17] <kingryan> coming to san francisco?
  86. [06:14:58] <kerihenare> might be. I'm supposed to be travelling with a friend and he was planning to go to San Fran. Steve Wozniak offered to put us up for a night so it's hard to say no.
  87. [06:15:16] <kingryan> yeah, that's a nice offer
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  89. [06:16:20] <epeus> especially if there's a concert on, as he owns the best seats
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  95. [06:23:57] <kerihenare> Actually all of the guys who were in NZ from Bay Area Segway offered us somewhere to stay so that's like 2 weeks that i don't have to pay for hostels
  96. [06:27:03] <kingryan> there's plenty of ways to stay free around here
  97. [06:27:22] <kingryan> like http://www.couchsurfing.com/
  98. [06:28:32] <kerihenare> already checked that out. hoping to find somewhere to stay in manhatten for 2 nights with couchsurfing.com
  99. [06:31:53] <kerihenare> it's such a pity that you can't really hitch-hike in USA. That's the main form of travel for people visiting NZ
  100. [06:32:15] <kerihenare> well when they're traveling on a budget anyway
  101. [06:35:38] <kingryan> yeah, you can't hitchhike, but you might be able to find shared-rides via craigslist
  102. [06:36:28] <kerihenare> oooh interesting
  103. [06:36:46] <kingryan> I'm sure you can find it on craigslist
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  106. [07:05:13] <kerihenare> nick kerihenare|dinner
  107. [07:05:17] <kerihenare> arse
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  112. [07:50:46] <izo_> hello
  113. [07:53:02] <kerihenaredinner> hello
  114. [07:54:27] * kerihenaredinner is now known as kerihenare
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  116. [08:06:26] <jibot> trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and runs www.csslounge.co.uk
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  120. [08:36:22] <kerihenare> Any suggestions for an OS X IRC client?
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  122. [08:55:30] <jbergius> colloquy
  123. [08:55:58] <jbergius> http://www.colloquy.info/ that is
  124. [08:56:21] <kerihenare> yeah that was the top google hit
  125. [08:58:43] <jbergius> I use it myself, it's decent - has all the basic functions that you might need
  126. [09:00:11] <kerihenare> cool thanks. A recommendation always helps
  127. [09:00:38] <trovster> Anyone use Suda, can't seem to get vcal to work with Outlook
  128. [09:01:08] <trovster> Oh, I've just got a mac, and need suggestions for software! Need an IRC one
  129. [09:01:26] <trovster> IRC - xChat, BitchX, irssi, snak, conversation, http://www.colloquy.info/ -- what people have said so far.
  130. [09:01:27] <jbergius> refer to my previous comments :)
  131. [09:01:29] <kerihenare> only used suda for vcard soz
  132. [09:02:05] <trovster> Was just about to try and get Apache for it, but it seems it's already there (osx n00b!)
  133. [09:02:17] <kerihenare> hehe
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  135. [09:02:36] <trovster> Need to config php though, and does it have MySQL or do I have to install it?
  136. [09:04:17] <kerihenare> i think you need to install both php and mysql?
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  138. [09:11:00] <trovster> <@RichardP> PHP is installed, but its recommended to get a newer version -- nooo!
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  154. [11:43:13] <jibot> pnhChris is Chris Casciano, blogs at http://placenamehere.com/ , and a member of the Web Standards Project.
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  163. [13:58:37] <jibot> cdevroe is Colin D. Devroe, blogs at http://cdevroe.com/, lives in Clifford, PA, USA and helps run the 9rules Network
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  165. [14:00:10] <jibot> briansuda is brian suda of X2V fame
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  168. [14:07:56] <jibot> bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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  175. [15:11:17] <trovster> Hey briansuda.
  176. [15:11:24] <briansuda> afternoon
  177. [15:11:30] <briansuda> morning, whatever?
  178. [15:28:13] <trovster> How come the ical output from your tool doesn't work in Outlook?
  179. [15:32:58] <briansuda> Outlook is pretty picky, you need UID, DTSTART and DTSTAMP
  180. [15:33:46] <briansuda> http://www.inkdroid.org/journal/2006/01/19/ical-and-outlook/
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  183. [15:58:47] <trovster> briansuda: The dude whose having problems tried the lifelint site, it worked for outlook, but only added one entry.
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  185. [16:05:11] <briansuda> yes, i've talked to him, we know what the problems are... it is that outlook needs UID DTSTART and METHOD
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  187. [16:15:08] <trovster> It's for this http://www.worldcupkickoff.com btw
  188. [16:16:28] <briansuda> to get it to work in OUTLOOK i'd just add two things
  189. [16:16:47] <briansuda> <td class="dtstart dtstamp" title="20060609T1700+0100">Fri 9th Jun 2006</td> (the dtstamp)
  190. [16:17:04] <briansuda> <td class="summary uid">Germany v Costa Rica</td> (and a UID)
  191. [16:17:18] <briansuda> then that SHOULD work in outlook, if it doesn't let me know
  192. [16:17:39] <briansuda> i know it works in Apple's iCal, because i subscribe to it
  193. [16:20:00] <trovster> Yeh, I imported it into Google Calendar and worked a damn treat.
  194. [16:29:20] <trovster> Anyone use Omniweb?
  195. [16:31:28] <KevinMarks> the summary can be the UID?
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  198. [16:35:36] <jibot> hober is Edward O'Connor and works for EVDB on http://eventful.com/ and lives in San Diego, CA (-08:00)
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  200. [16:37:10] <jibot> mlinksva is Mike Linksvayer and from Creative Commons
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  202. [16:49:54] <briansuda> UID is just a Unique identifier, if your summary is unique it will work
  203. [16:52:40] <KevinMarks> unique in the context of the reader's Outlook calendar, presumably
  204. [16:56:55] <briansuda> KevinMarks, i think it is unique to the VCALENDAR, i'd have to check the RFC to make sure
  205. [16:57:28] <briansuda> but it does NOT have to be a HASH or anything, we are looking into using UID more based off of URIs
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  213. [17:15:15] <dr34mc0d3r> wow - there lots a people in here today....
  214. [17:17:51] <KevinMarks> briansuda: is that a recommendation for generators? ie should the hCalender generator add those fields?
  215. [17:18:11] <briansuda> add UID?
  216. [17:19:29] <briansuda> Tantek knows more about the UID expectations, we certainly want to starting using them more, so i think it would be a good idea for generators to have that option along with DTSTAMP
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  221. [17:25:48] <KevinMarks> also, perhaps x2v could do the 'outlook sanitising' if they aren't there?
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  223. [17:26:46] <jibot> trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and runs www.csslounge.co.uk
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  225. [17:28:22] <briansuda> i'm not sure X2V could add any fields that are not explict - i already add METHOD
  226. [17:28:44] <briansuda> OUTLOOK is the problem, those are all OPTIONAL in the spec, but are required for them
  227. [17:43:57] <mfbot> [[hcard-faq]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-faq&diff=0&oldid=5952 * RyanKing * (+201) added a question about required elements in hcard
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  256. [20:15:50] <chikkman> hey everyone
  257. [20:16:10] <briansuda> DanC_lap, thanks for the refactoring in the XSLT, i didn't think you could actually set variables and then call them again... that certainly shortens the code up a bunch!
  258. [20:16:25] <chikkman> i'm interested in getting some feedback on some hreview stuff i'm working on....
  259. [20:16:37] <DanC> sure think, briansuda
  260. [20:16:39] <DanC> thing
  261. [20:16:44] * DanC will learn to type one day
  262. [20:16:58] <chikkman> basically, working on hreview plugin for lucene / nutch
  263. [20:17:12] <DanC> XSLT is awkward, but not _that_ awkward ;-)
  264. [20:17:25] <briansuda> i checked-in a few changes to the TESTS, so you might want to grab those, X2V now only fails on 1 test althought it reports 2
  265. [20:18:30] <briansuda> The thing about XSLT is when it actually SETS the variables, you can create on, but then on the next line if you do value-of it is not there - it just gets abit of getting used too - it reminds me of programming FPGA boards where things are set instantly
  266. [20:18:34] * chikkman (n=mike@64.241.37.140) Quit ()
  267. [20:18:52] * DanC updates to 157:e16307086f40
  268. [20:20:01] <DanC> well, variables do go out of scope, but not on the next line
  269. [20:20:02] <briansuda> \me can't type either - ...FPGA boards where things are NOT set instantly
  270. [20:20:16] * briansuda or type in IRC
  271. [20:20:50] <briansuda> it isn't out of scope, it was just an issue with them not being set yet - i'll try and find an example some time
  272. [20:20:51] <DanC> Passed: 28
  273. [20:20:51] <DanC> Failed: 3
  274. [20:20:59] <briansuda> which numbers?
  275. [20:21:14] <DanC> FAIL hcard/22-adr
  276. [20:21:34] <DanC> FAIL hcard/30-fn-org
  277. [20:21:51] <DanC> FAIL hcard/23-abbr-title-everything
  278. [20:22:36] * briansuda is looking
  279. [20:24:56] <briansuda> i pass 30, but do fail on 22,23
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  281. [20:26:51] <DanC> what version of x2v do you have? what does hg parents say?
  282. [20:27:53] <briansuda> i am using the one you checked in yesterday. (i think)
  283. [20:28:18] <DanC> what does `hg parents` say?
  284. [20:28:25] <DanC> and does `hg status` show any local mods?
  285. [20:29:04] <DanC> er... wierd... my is-org test looks wrong...
  286. [20:30:20] <briansuda> no, hg status shows nothing, i am going to make a small change and commit again
  287. [20:30:50] <DanC> a real one? don't commit noise
  288. [20:30:56] <briansuda> abort: push creates new remote branches!
  289. [20:30:57] <DanC> my emacs buffer was out of date
  290. [20:31:12] <DanC> please, what does `hg parents` show?
  291. [20:31:39] <briansuda> changeset: 35:7da71dc37705
  292. [20:31:39] <briansuda> tag: tip
  293. [20:31:39] <briansuda> user: unknown@t-lva-suda-co-uk.local
  294. [20:31:39] <briansuda> date: Thu Apr 20 15:29:07 2006 -0500
  295. [20:31:39] <briansuda> summary: updated version number for a commit to iron out merge issues
  296. [20:31:51] <briansuda> i just did a commit
  297. [20:34:20] <DanC> you committed in x2v? what I see is 50bf9f506b23
  298. [20:34:48] <DanC> er... did you push your commit?
  299. [20:35:08] <DanC> I think you might need to merge
  300. [20:35:34] <DanC> hg pull; hg update -m; hg commit -m 'merge with tip'; hg push
  301. [20:36:40] <briansuda> OK, i'll try that...
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  303. [20:38:11] <briansuda> brian$ hg pull ssh://mercurial@microformats.org/repos/x2v/
  304. [20:38:12] <briansuda> pulling from ssh://mercurial@microformats.org/repos/x2v/
  305. [20:38:12] <briansuda> searching for changes
  306. [20:38:12] <briansuda> Enter passphrase for key '/Users/brian/.ssh/id_rsa':
  307. [20:38:12] <briansuda> no changes found
  308. [20:38:13] <briansuda> brian$ hg update -m
  309. [20:38:16] <briansuda> brian$ hg commit -m 'merge with tip'
  310. [20:38:19] <briansuda> nothing changed
  311. [20:39:26] * briansuda wonders if he should commit
  312. [20:39:34] * briansuda push he means
  313. [20:39:55] <DanC> well, yeah, push. then I can see what's up?
  314. [20:41:45] <briansuda> remote: added 3 changesets with 1 changes to 2 files (+1 heads)
  315. [20:43:09] <DanC> you didn't merge my is-org fix
  316. [20:43:24] <DanC> you committed to a version earlier
  317. [20:44:31] <briansuda> i did a pull and it said 'no changes'
  318. [20:44:38] <DanC> did you update?
  319. [20:45:04] <DanC> there are 3 dodads: the hg.microformats repository, your local repository, and your working directory.
  320. [20:45:09] <DanC> pull/push goes between the latter 2
  321. [20:45:17] <DanC> commit goes from your working dir to your repository
  322. [20:46:08] <briansuda> right, i thought i updated, i know i did an "hg update" later, with no changes
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  324. [20:46:55] <briansuda> i think it is all sorted now, the newest version has all the same code as what you committed earlier. @change set 31
  325. [20:47:08] <DanC> 31 is a local thing. what's the hash next to 31?
  326. [20:47:28] <DanC> I hope you're at 403bd9c1aee5
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  328. [20:49:09] <jibot> limbo_ is Eran and blogs at http://hellonline.com/blog/
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  331. [20:53:12] <briansuda> changeset 31: 75820f2c7309
  332. [20:53:12] <briansuda> child 32: 50bf9f506b23
  333. [20:53:12] <briansuda> child 34: ef8ae7847de6
  334. [20:53:21] <briansuda> that is from the hg.microformats.org
  335. [20:55:48] <briansuda> OK, after an 'hg pull', and an 'hg update' i'm at 403bd9c1aee5
  336. [20:56:04] <briansuda> so i think we are on the same page.... how do we prevent this next time?
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  340. [21:11:22] <jibot> RobertBachmann is Robert Bachmann <http://rbach.priv.at/> and lives in Austria (Timezone: UTC+02)
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  342. [21:24:28] * DanC tunes back in
  343. [21:25:30] <DanC> briansuda, still here? the problem was: you didn't pull/update my is-org changes before you did your "commit before update" changeset
  344. [21:26:48] <briansuda> ok. so just a consistent pull/update should solve that. then how did we get out of sync that i got 'no changes' for my pulls?
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  346. [21:28:14] <DanC> I suspect you did (1) pull my changes [but not update] (2) commit some of your own (3) commit again "version number"
  347. [21:28:46] <DanC> at that point, if you `hg pull`, you won't get any new changes, since you already pulled them.
  348. [21:29:18] <DanC> then (4) you pushed, and (5) I pulled, (6) I merged and committed, and (7) I pushed, (8) you pulled and updated.
  349. [21:29:41] <DanC> do you have the view extension installed? it helps quite a bit.
  350. [21:29:45] <briansuda> this soulds abit like "who's on first?"
  351. [21:30:25] <DanC> well, compared to CVS, it's another level of indirection. It'll take some getting used to.
  352. [21:30:44] <DanC> the good news is: you can commit locally. The bad news is: you can commit locally. ;-)
  353. [21:31:10] <briansuda> agreed, and i'll get that view extension and test it out - i saw it on your "breadcrumbs" post it looks useful for sure
  354. [21:31:22] <DanC> cool.
  355. [21:31:44] <DanC> speaking of breadcrumbs, I left one out: http://www.selenic.com/mercurial/wiki/index.cgi/UsingHgk
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  359. [21:45:39] <trovv> briansuda: Hey, my mate is bugging me for that Outlook patch, what was it again (at home now!)
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  367. [22:00:07] <briansuda> you need UID, DTSTAMP and METHOD
  368. [22:01:57] <KevinMarks> what is method for?
  369. [22:04:20] <DanC> METHOD is for getting outloook to eat your data, evidently ;-)
  370. [22:04:46] * DanC hasn't really grokked itip
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  374. [22:23:11] <tantek> greetings
  375. [22:23:42] <kerihenare> greetings
  376. [22:24:09] * tantek sets mode +o KevinMarks
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  384. [23:18:20] <jibot> briansuda is brian suda of X2V fame
  385. [23:18:40] <kerihenare-away> hey brian
  386. [23:18:48] * kerihenare-away is now known as kerihenare
  387. [23:18:55] <briansuda> hello
  388. [23:19:22] <kerihenare> thanks for adding the <object> support to X2V.
  389. [23:19:31] <trovv> tantek: Have a word with ebay, when I type in Technorati, it gives me technomate!
  390. [23:19:38] <kerihenare> I was worried that you'd forgot until I tested it out
  391. [23:19:55] <trovv> http://www.worldcupkickoff.com/ - guy says he's fixed the ical stuff
  392. [23:20:25] <briansuda> not a problem about the object code, we haven't fully explored everything yet, but it seems to be working pretty go so far
  393. [23:20:51] <kerihenare> yeah it's working with my hCard now
  394. [23:24:17] <mfbot> [[xfolk-issues]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=xfolk-issues&diff=0&oldid=5957 * RCanine * (+346) xFolk issues -
  395. [23:24:43] <mfbot> [[User:RCanine]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:RCanine&diff=0&oldid=5958 * RCanine * (-7)
  396. [23:25:59] <mfbot> [[workofart-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=workofart-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=5959 * RCanine * (+16) What about [[citation]]? -
  397. [23:26:40] <mfbot> [[User:RCanine]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:RCanine&diff=0&oldid=5960 * RCanine * (+66)
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