IRC Log for #microformats on 2006-04-23

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  3. [00:08:57] <kerihenare> ?def kerihenare
  4. [00:08:58] <jibot> kerihenare is curious about how to get jibot to announce his arrival.
  5. [00:10:46] <kerihenare> ?def kerihenare http://www.kerihenare.com/ New Zealand loves Microformats
  6. [00:10:46] <jibot> Nobody has defined kerihenare http://www.kerihenare.com/ New Zealand loves Microformats yet
  7. [00:11:46] <kerihenare> ?learn kerihenare is http://www.kerihenare.com/ New Zealand loves Microformats
  8. [00:11:47] <jibot> kerihenare is curious about how to get jibot to announce his arrival. and http://www.kerihenare.com/ New Zealand loves Microformats
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  10. [00:12:07] <jibot> mlinksva is Mike Linksvayer and from Creative Commons
  11. [00:12:16] <kerihenare> ?forget kerihenare is curious about how to get jibot to announce his arrival.
  12. [00:12:16] <jibot> I now only know that kerihenare is http://www.kerihenare.com/ New Zealand loves Microformats
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  14. [00:24:40] <jibot> briansuda is brian suda of X2V fame
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  17. [00:56:17] <mfbot> [[hcard]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard&diff=0&oldid=6046 * Tantek * (+631) Human vs. Machine readable - - tweak Keri's additions, add more special case elements etc. from hcard-parsing
  18. [01:03:48] <mfbot> [[uid-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=uid-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=6047 * Tantek * (+428) split goals / proposals
  19. [01:12:45] <mfbot> [[uid-brainstorming]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=uid-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=6048 * Tantek * (+453) Thoughts -
  20. [01:13:01] <mfbot> [[uid-brainstorming]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=uid-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=6049 * Tantek * (+16) UIDs that are URLs -
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  26. [02:34:22] <jibot> BenjaminCarlyle is http://soundadvice.id.au/blog/, GMT 1000
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  28. [02:58:22] <jibot> limbo_ is Eran and blogs at http://hellonline.com/blog/
  29. [02:59:49] <mfbot> [[citation-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=6050 * Brian * (+241) MARC / MODS / Dublin Core -
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  34. [03:17:36] <mfbot> [[events/anniversary/1]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/events/anniversary/1 * Tantek * (+476)
  35. [03:17:47] <mfbot> [[events]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events&diff=0&oldid=6051 * Tantek * (+78)
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  37. [03:20:48] <mfbot> [[events/anniversary/1]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events/anniversary/1&diff=0&oldid=6052 * Tantek * (+58)
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  39. [03:35:25] <mfbot> [[uid-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=uid-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=6053 * Ed Summers * (-15) Related Discussion -
  40. [03:36:11] <mfbot> [[events/anniversary/1]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events/anniversary/1&diff=0&oldid=6054 * Tantek * (+27)
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  44. [03:59:19] <tantek> thanks edsu
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  46. [04:14:07] <mfbot> [[hcard]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard&diff=0&oldid=6055 * Tantek * (+105) suggest hcard-authoring page
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  51. [05:47:19] <badd> how u know that the "format" of hcal for example that is the best format..
  52. [05:47:55] <badd> or u r goin to have another version.. or something..?
  53. [05:49:12] <badd> i mean probably its a lil naive question..
  54. [05:49:38] <jakedahn> I second that question, just so badd doesn't feel awkward :)
  55. [05:52:17] <badd> mm.. wat about if u miss something.. like i read some people are like why there is no tag to put repeating events..
  56. [05:55:39] <badd> i guess my question is not clear yet..
  57. [05:59:07] <tantek> badd, what do you mean by "best format"?
  58. [05:59:16] <tantek> more precisely, what do you mean by "best"?
  59. [06:00:34] <badd> if u dont have a place to put like contact info or email in hcal..
  60. [06:01:03] <tantek> do you mean hCard?
  61. [06:01:16] <tantek> that's what you want to use for contact info and email
  62. [06:01:56] <badd> no..:) in hcal u can put "location", "url", "description.."
  63. [06:02:27] <badd> wat abt if u need to put something else..
  64. [06:02:45] <badd> and there is no specified tag for it..
  65. [06:04:44] <BenjaminCarlyle> badd: You can put in whatever information you like, however it will not be read or understood by anything.
  66. [06:05:16] <BenjaminCarlyle> Perhaps you could work back to the start and tell us what information you have on your web page and want to mark up with microformats.
  67. [06:05:51] <badd> no.. i was just wondering how u know that its best for all..
  68. [06:06:46] <badd> obviosly somebody has to make a standard..
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  70. [06:10:37] <badd> http://microformats.org/discuss/mail/microformats-discuss/2005-August/000516.html
  71. [06:13:42] <badd> that guy wanted to represent repeating events in hcal.. but that is not compatible with iCal.app
  72. [06:15:03] <badd> wat about if iCal they have to include that option..
  73. [06:19:29] <badd> blah.. whatever.. who cares.. if u dont...
  74. [06:23:31] <jakedahn> :)
  75. [06:24:55] <badd> ;)
  76. [06:28:08] <badd> wats the need of having a irc channel.. when nobody talks to and jibot is like "hey jakedahn is a students and his website is ....."
  77. [06:32:05] <badd> have a good nite guys....
  78. [06:57:04] * BenjaminCarlyle is back from tending to his 1-month-old
  79. [06:58:08] <BenjaminCarlyle> badd: hcalendar is a standard. hcard is a standard.
  80. [06:58:49] <BenjaminCarlyle> The microformat concept is that you publish the data you want to publish to humans, then mark it up so that machines can read it too.
  81. [06:59:30] <BenjaminCarlyle> Which microformats to use and how to present the data depend primarily on the data you are publishing to humans. So far you don't seem to be talking about a specific problem or raising a specific question.
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  89. [08:53:16] <jibot> mlinksva is Mike Linksvayer and from Creative Commons
  90. [08:55:01] <mfbot> [[presentations]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=presentations&diff=0&oldid=6056 * Tantek * (+166)
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  98. [10:05:24] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  101. [10:58:20] <jibot> kerihenare is http://www.kerihenare.com/ New Zealand loves Microformats
  102. [10:59:08] <kerihenare> Hey All
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  108. [13:24:29] <mfbot> [[uid-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=uid-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=6057 * Ed Summers * (+152) added abbr example
  109. [13:26:00] <mfbot> [[uid-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=uid-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=6058 * Ed Summers * (+32) Just use UID from hCard -
  110. [13:27:36] <mfbot> [[uid-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=uid-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=6059 * Ed Summers * (+26) References -
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  114. [14:41:26] <jibot> pnhChris is Chris Casciano, blogs at http://placenamehere.com/ , and a member of the Web Standards Project.
  115. [15:03:25] <mfbot> [[uid-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=uid-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=6060 * Ed Summers * (+0) moved abbr stuff to Thoughts as it's not a proposal
  116. [15:35:31] <mfbot> [[uid-examples]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/uid-examples * Ed Summers * (+505)
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  127. [16:43:51] <jibot> mlinksva is Mike Linksvayer and from Creative Commons
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  134. [17:21:33] <jibot> trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and runs www.csslounge.co.uk
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  146. [18:48:12] <jibot> briansuda is brian suda of X2V fame
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  148. [18:49:41] <jibot> pnhChris is Chris Casciano, blogs at http://placenamehere.com/ , and a member of the Web Standards Project.
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  158. [20:10:54] <mfbot> [[uid-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=uid-examples&diff=0&oldid=6061 * Ed Summers * (+253) Amazon -
  159. [20:11:20] <mfbot> [[uid-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=uid-examples&diff=0&oldid=6062 * Ed Summers * (-3) PubMed -
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  162. [20:19:17] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  167. [20:51:47] <jibot> kerihenare is http://www.kerihenare.com/ New Zealand loves Microformats
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  171. [20:53:44] <kerihenare> Anybody here on Dreamhost?
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  173. [21:05:52] <pnhChris> for some stuff, yes kerihenare
  174. [21:08:36] <kerihenare> pnhChris: any problems lately?
  175. [21:09:17] <kerihenare> I've only just switched over about a month ago and I've had downtime 3 times
  176. [21:13:03] <pnhChris> none that i've noticed... though someone mentioned they saw a db connection error that was fine a few second later
  177. [21:14:14] <kerihenare> i've noticed mysql down for an hour and all hosting down for an hour another time
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  180. [21:14:45] <jibot> mlinksva is Mike Linksvayer and from Creative Commons
  181. [21:16:16] <pnhChris> no, i haven't seen anything like that... though it wouldn't be the first time that other people have had stability issues with other servers and the couple I have stuff on are just fine
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  183. [21:17:32] <kerihenare> who else do you use?
  184. [21:18:18] <kerihenare> I'm tempted to go to MediaTemple
  185. [21:25:15] <pnhChris> i work with a few things on site5 -- seems stable but not special... pairs been decent... I've stayed away from mediatemple because of some reports of growing pains, but that seems to be in the past now...
  186. [21:25:43] <pnhChris> i dunno, seems to me that with shared hosting all experiences are mixed given time
  187. [21:27:01] <briansuda> i would suggest looking into TextDrive as well, i have been using them off and on, and don't have any complaints
  188. [21:28:15] <drewinthehead> I have many complaints and am in the process of moving away from TXD
  189. [21:28:34] * pnhChris waves to drew...
  190. [21:28:35] <kerihenare> where are you headed drew?
  191. [21:28:47] <pnhChris> yeah.. was just gonna mention that i've heard complains of growing pains from some
  192. [21:28:50] <pnhChris> :P
  193. [21:29:07] <drewinthehead> I'm renting a virtual dedicated box with memset.com and am running my own show
  194. [21:30:34] <drewinthehead> i'm sick of hosting companies who think it's reasonable to charge an extra $10 a month for a <VirtualHost>.
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  197. [21:35:53] <drewinthehead> </rant> ;)
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  199. [22:03:45] <kerihenare> I guess I'll stay with Dreamhost until atleast the beginning of June then make a decision from there
  200. [22:04:32] <kerihenare> I'm going to be travelling for 5 months and I have to be in a position where I can just leave my hosting alone and expect it to work.
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