IRC Log for #microformats on 2006-05-18

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  21. [04:05:05] <jibot> pnhChris is Chris Casciano, blogs at http://placenamehere.com/ , and a member of the Web Standards Project.
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  25. [04:39:00] <jibot> Jonnay is a programmer, graphic designer and musician. He blogs at http://blog.jonnay.net and his music is at http://www.jonnay.net
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  33. [04:59:47] <jibot> bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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  39. [06:54:51] <jibot> briansuda is brian suda of X2V fame
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  43. [08:06:02] <jibot> trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and runs www.csslounge.co.uk
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  46. [08:20:18] <jibot> bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
  47. [08:21:09] <trovster> Hey briansuda, got a Q
  48. [08:22:12] <briansuda> go ahead
  49. [08:22:50] <trovster> My problem now occurs for teams with spaces in the country, namely "Costa Rica", "Ivory Coast", "Czech Rep", "South Korea" and "Saudi Arabia". I'm not sure how I can fix this as it all works fine on my end but the parsing script on Suda doesn't seem to like having "+" in the URL to parse such as "http://www.worldcupkickoff.com/costa+rica/2". While that is a valid URL on my end, it doesn't seem to see the URL as a validly structured document on Sud
  50. [08:24:52] <briansuda> there is a weird encoding issues with the '+'
  51. [08:26:17] <briansuda> it might need to be URL encoded as %?? as opposed to +
  52. [08:27:37] <trovster> So, it's your end? He says it's being urlencoded()d
  53. [08:28:31] <briansuda> it is a problem on my end, try the Technorati feed theirs works slightly differently
  54. [08:28:56] <briansuda> it is the same issue as the private link you sent me awhile ago
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  58. [08:37:01] <trovster> Are there any walkthroughs in setting up the x2v service locally? He's having problems...
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  60. [08:46:44] <jibot> briansuda is brian suda of X2V fame
  61. [08:48:12] <trovster> briansuda: Are there any walkthroughs in setting up the x2v service locally? He's having problems...
  62. [08:48:23] <briansuda> all the source code for the php is on hg.microformats.org
  63. [08:48:50] <briansuda> there is not much to setup, it is a single php file. so it is not working then he might not have the libraries
  64. [09:01:32] <briansuda> trovster, i just tested the link from the error is from the Tidy web service
  65. [09:02:19] <trovster> Excuse me?
  66. [09:06:50] <briansuda> the "http://www.worldcupkickoff.com/costa+rica/2" fails not at X2V, but at the Tidy service for some reason, i guess they don't like the +
  67. [09:07:12] <trovster> What Tidy service, the HTML validator (FF extension) ?
  68. [09:07:54] <briansuda> to make sure the pages are valid, the PHP code tries to TIDY the pages
  69. [09:08:32] <briansuda> it is calling an external web service to do so, but that service doesn't seem to like the '+'
  70. [09:11:29] <briansuda> http://cgi.w3.org/cgi-bin/tidy?docAddr=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.worldcupkickoff.com%2Fcosta+rica%2F2
  71. [09:11:53] <briansuda> that link fails because the + is not escaped to %2B
  72. [09:13:02] <trovster> It's a valid URL with the + though, that is urlencoded for a space
  73. [09:15:32] <briansuda> not in this case, because it is escaping it to %2B and not %20, there is URLEncode, and RAWUrlEncode the RAW is +, %20 is plain urlencode
  74. [09:18:10] <trovster> http://cgi.w3.org/cgi-bin/tidy?docAddr=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.worldcupkickoff.com%2Fcosta%2brica%2F2
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  87. [11:30:15] <jibot> briansuda is brian suda of X2V fame
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  91. [13:06:05] <jibot> pnhChris is Chris Casciano, blogs at http://placenamehere.com/ , and a member of the Web Standards Project.
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  97. [13:59:28] <yakk> man, rdfa is cool
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  99. [14:03:48] <jibot> briansuda is brian suda of X2V fame
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  102. [14:07:08] <trovster> briansuda: Prepare to get hit tomorrow, the WCKO site is going live!
  103. [14:07:25] <briansuda> not a prob.
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  105. [14:11:49] <briansuda> if you are worried about performance from my server, you can use the technorati site as well.
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  118. [14:57:08] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  121. [15:15:06] <hlb> hello.
  122. [15:15:23] <hlb> any progress on http://microformats.org/wiki/book-examples ?
  123. [15:16:25] <briansuda> hlb, This page was last modified 16:06, 12 May 2006
  124. [15:16:53] * hlb don't know how to use microformats to markup a book.
  125. [15:17:36] <hlb> there is someone working on http://findbook.tw/ in Taiwan.
  126. [15:17:54] <briansuda> you should add that to the wiki.
  127. [15:18:08] <briansuda> there has not been awhole lot of discussion on books recently on the mailing list
  128. [15:18:09] <hlb> but the online book store is still in low-tech era :(
  129. [15:19:53] <hlb> hmm
  130. [15:20:03] <hlb> briansuda: I think it is what I want: http://microformats.org/wiki/citation-examples
  131. [15:20:06] <hlb> :D
  132. [15:20:32] <briansuda> the citations are a work in progress
  133. [15:21:16] <hlb> hmmm.
  134. [15:22:16] <hlb> it is interesting that we have markup for online books & citations, but little on real books.
  135. [15:27:31] <trovster> briansuda: http://www.simonjobling.com/?p=156
  136. [15:28:11] <briansuda> excellent!
  137. [15:28:46] <trovster> :D
  138. [15:31:32] <hlb> wow.
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  141. [15:40:23] <jibot> RobertBachmann is Robert Bachmann <http://rbach.priv.at/> and lives in Austria (Timezone: UTC+02)
  142. [15:40:46] <trovster> hlb: What's wow?
  143. [15:42:01] <hlb> trovster: wow = wa = so cool :-P
  144. [15:42:19] <trovster> heh, footie fan then
  145. [15:42:41] <hlb> :-P
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  160. [15:48:38] <Remi> spam bots...
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  177. [16:02:33] <RobertBachmann> stupid spammers
  178. [16:02:43] <RobertBachmann> Remi: thanks for reverting
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  180. [16:03:00] <Remi> no problem, i do that on a few wikis :)
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  186. [16:05:49] <jibot> hober is Edward O'Connor and works for EVDB on http://eventful.com/ and lives in San Diego, CA (-08:00)
  187. [16:09:45] <mfbot> [[hcalendar]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar&diff=0&oldid=6406 * Trovster * (+194) Examples in the wild -
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  190. [16:14:23] <jibot> bewest is curious about emerging standards and works for Alexa.com
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