IRC Log for #microformats on 2006-05-20

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  124. [18:26:07] <pnhChris> i mentioned the desire to put together some tests a week or two ago, but here's my first draft of some hatom feed detection tests cases... trying to exploit the current spec wrt optional hfeed element, multiple feeds in a document, etc...
  125. [18:26:11] <pnhChris> http://placenamehere.com/mf/hatom_tests/
  126. [18:26:35] <pnhChris> if anyone has a few minutes to look them over first for accuracy and validness
  127. [18:27:05] <pnhChris> i'm going to go through them once more myself in a bit then bring them up on the mail list
  128. [18:28:53] <mfbot> [[Talk:selected-test-cases-from-the-web]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/Talk:selected-test-cases-from-the-web * 1148151610 * (+3421)
  129. [18:29:04] <mfbot> [[Talk:how-to-play]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/Talk:how-to-play * 1148151610 * (+3421)
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  131. [18:29:36] <mfbot> [[Talk:hcard-tests]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/Talk:hcard-tests * 1148151668 * (+3421)
  132. [18:29:47] <mfbot> [[Brian]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/Brian * 1148151668 * (+3421)
  133. [18:29:50] <pnhChris> yay! spammers
  134. [18:29:53] <mfbot> [[Talk:zen-garden]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/Talk:zen-garden * 1148151668 * (+3421)
  135. [18:30:09] <mfbot> [[User:Tim White]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/User:Tim_White * 1148151668 * (+3421)
  136. [18:30:09] <pnhChris> kingryan: you a wiki admin?
  137. [18:30:20] <mfbot> [[DannyAyers]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/DannyAyers * 1148151668 * (+3421)
  138. [18:30:36] <mfbot> [[Talk:video-metadata-model]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/Talk:video-metadata-model * 1148151668 * (+3421)
  139. [18:30:38] <kingryan> yup
  140. [18:30:47] <mfbot> [[Talk:job-listing-examples]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/Talk:job-listing-examples * 1148151668 * (+3421)
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  142. [18:31:45] <kingryan> also, pnhChris, I believe Robert Bachmann already has some hAtom tests
  143. [18:31:54] <kingryan> along with the xslt
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  145. [18:32:36] <pnhChris> i know, i'm not going to be expanding into testing content
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  150. [18:33:31] <pnhChris> but i needed some examples to help discuss some of the questions I have about feed detection and the current rules that allow for multiple feeds in a document
  151. [18:33:58] <kingryan> ah, ok
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  158. [18:35:17] <pnhChris> the spec seems to allow for it, you can write markup for it that makes "sense", i just don't know if it'll work on the consumer side
  159. [18:35:44] <pnhChris> at least not with the spec as written
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  162. [18:48:09] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  165. [18:49:02] <tantek> hey chris
  166. [18:49:41] <pnhChris> http://placenamehere.com/mf/hatom_tests/
  167. [18:50:24] <pnhChris> ... still trying to make sense of multiple feeds in the same html document
  168. [18:56:52] <tantek> for starters, if there are multiple feeds in a document, and if they have "id" attributes, then you can refer to the feeds uniquely using a fragment identifier in the URL
  169. [18:57:26] <pnhChris> right
  170. [18:58:05] <tantek> it may be possible to merge multiple feeds into a single feeds using the SOURCE element in Atom
  171. [18:58:37] <pnhChris> would you want to merge blog posts and linklists?
  172. [18:58:59] <pnhChris> as a rule
  173. [18:59:15] <tantek> good question
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  175. [19:07:52] <pnhChris> kicked off a mail to the list
  176. [19:07:59] <pnhChris> but happy to chat more here
  177. [19:11:19] <pnhChris> part of what i'm thinking of here is the browser based feed reading scenario of pressing the feed icon in the chrome and seeing (in some future world) hatom feeds listed along side feeds in the head of the document
  178. [19:11:31] <pnhChris> then selecting one of the feeds
  179. [19:11:59] <pnhChris> and having the browser subsribe to that one feed (or ship a reference to that feed off to a 3rd party app)
  180. [19:12:25] <tantek> chris, you should also document your specific questions/issues on the hatom-issues document on the wiki
  181. [19:12:40] <pnhChris> that was next
  182. [19:12:52] <tantek> so that we can maintain a proper record of them and make sure they get followup in due time - or heck, you yourself figure it out and and help document the answers for everyone's benefit
  183. [19:12:53] <pnhChris> wanted to get another eye or two on the tests first
  184. [19:12:59] <tantek> great
  185. [19:13:12] <pnhChris> make sure i'm not crazy ;)
  186. [19:13:43] <tantek> you may want to link to the tests from a new section in the hatoim-brainstorming document
  187. [19:13:50] <tantek> hatom-brainstorming even
  188. [19:14:00] <tantek> so that there is a greater chance of people discovering them
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  190. [19:55:11] <mfbot> [[hatom-issues]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hatom-issues&diff=0&oldid=6418 * ChrisCasciano * (+1592) Other Questions and Issues - multiple feeds -
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  206. [22:38:26] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  208. [22:39:51] <mfbot> [[hreview-faq]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hreview-faq&diff=0&oldid=6419 * BenLee * (+119) Q&A -
  209. [22:41:38] <mfbot> [[hreview-faq]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hreview-faq&diff=0&oldid=6420 * BenLee * (+1) Q&A -
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  212. [22:46:20] <mfbot> [[hreview-faq]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hreview-faq&diff=0&oldid=6422 * Tantek * (+327)
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  215. [23:07:42] <mfbot> [[User talk:Tantek]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User_talk:Tantek&diff=0&oldid=6423 * Tantek * (-512)
  216. [23:11:28] <mfbot> [[hreview-faq]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hreview-faq&diff=0&oldid=6424 * Tantek * (+662)
  217. [23:12:59] <mfbot> [[User talk:Tantek]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User_talk:Tantek&diff=0&oldid=6425 * Tantek * (+164)

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