IRC Log for #microformats on 2006-06-05
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- [00:53:11] <jibot>
bewest is curious about emerging standards and works for Alexa.com
- [01:10:54] <mfbot>
[[adr-examples]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=adr-examples&diff=0&oldid=6509 * Fthiess * (+3) Fixed markup error in example
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bewest is curious about emerging standards and works for Alexa.com
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- [03:19:05] <bewest>
wow, tantek really lashed out at google
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- [04:34:11] <Atamido>
tantek lashing out? That's crazy talk. ;)
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tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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- [05:11:59] <hendry>
hi
- [05:12:30] <hendry>
i have some video content and I am wondering how i sanely describe it
- [05:12:36] <hendry>
same goes for images i guess
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- [05:30:42] <jibot>
PhilipAshlock is in Bellingham WA and can be found online at http://www.philaestheta.com/
- [05:41:58] <hendry>
how is one supposed to put email in hcard
- [05:42:25] <tantek>
add class="email" to your email link
- [05:42:47] <hendry>
just wondering why its not in the generator
- [05:45:13] <hendry>
what about IRC?
- [05:45:42] <hendry>
Skype
- [05:48:15] <pnhChris>
ESP
- [05:48:35] <pnhChris>
oh.. guess that one would be known already :P
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- [05:49:22] <jibot>
bewest is curious about emerging standards and works for Alexa.com
- [05:49:28] * pnhChris also wonders about http://kitchen.technorati.com/search?s=Pingerati
- [05:49:52] <hendry>
http://hendry.iki.fi/ # i made an hcard
- [05:50:01] <hendry>
can i validate it somewhere i wonder
- [05:51:59] <hendry>
i don't quite get why some are div and other's span
- [05:52:42] <tantek>
hendry, Robert has improved the generator here: http://rbach.priv.at/2006/hcard-creator
- [05:52:48] <tantek>
I believe it has email
- [05:53:29] <tantek>
the divs and spans have been chosen for their default presentation, you can change them
- [05:53:53] <tantek>
you can "validate" it by trying it with a converter
- [05:55:15] <tantek>
e.g. http://feeds.technorati.com/contacts/
- [05:55:37] <tantek>
or Brian Suda's X2V converter, which does a bunch of nice prevalidation and reports common errors:
- [05:55:47] <tantek>
http://suda.co.uk/projects/X2V/
- [05:56:21] <tantek>
pnhChris, what were you expecting? are there some reviews or something that should be showing up?
- [05:56:32] <pnhChris>
mine
- [05:56:44] <pnhChris>
which i saw mentioned on the pingerati page
- [05:56:57] <pnhChris>
though i probably missed something
- [05:57:15] <tantek>
hendry, you may want to make sure your markup validates
- [05:57:16] <pnhChris>
i'm been a bit batty.. workign ot and such
- [05:57:17] <tantek>
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://hendry.iki.fi/
- [05:57:29] <tantek>
otherwise, it is not guaranteed that the elements will nest as you think they will
- [05:57:40] <pnhChris>
http://chunkysoup.net/article/211/TechnoratisNewToys
- [05:57:54] <pnhChris>
(and http://placenamehere.com/article/211/TechnoratisNewToys )
- [05:58:04] <pnhChris>
both also listed in technorati's normal listings
- [06:00:32] <pnhChris>
but i only pinged pingerati directly with the first one
- [06:00:50] <hendry>
tantek: thanks
- [06:00:51] <tantek>
Chris, from a cursory markup code review, I can't see anything wrong, or at least anything that would prevent your hReviews from showing up...
- [06:00:51] <pnhChris>
and saw 2 hreview / 1 hcard mentioned when i did
- [06:04:07] <hendry>
tantek: is there anything for irc/skype?
- [06:04:52] <hendry>
i don't why w3c won't validate my page. are divs not allowed in spans
- [06:04:53] <tantek>
chris, could you add your hReview containing permalinks as a nested list item underneath the Microformats Search entry in the Implementations section in the hReview spec?
- [06:05:01] <tantek>
divs are not allowed in spans
- [06:06:07] <hendry>
ok, i've got rid of the divs
- [06:06:33] <tantek>
also, in (x)html strict, you must have a block-level element inside <body> before you nest any inline-level elements like <span>
- [06:08:36] <tantek>
hendry, irc is a good question
- [06:08:42] <tantek>
there are urls for IRC channels
- [06:09:21] <hendry>
yes
- [06:09:39] <hendry>
but not usernames
- [06:10:33] <hendry>
maybe username needs its own defn
- [06:10:41] <tantek>
not necessarily
- [06:10:52] <tantek>
there may be a URL for starting a private IRC chat with a nick
- [06:11:01] <tantek>
that would be a reasonable proxy
- [06:11:03] <hendry>
i've never seen one
- [06:11:17] <tantek>
perhaps do some research into the "irc:" URL scheme
- [06:11:31] <kingryan>
http://www.w3.org/Addressing/draft-mirashi-url-irc-01.txt
- [06:11:34] <tantek>
skype has skype: as well - I've seen folks use it
- [06:11:51] <tantek>
in general, there is no more reason to have new fields for usernames etc.
- [06:11:55] <tantek>
just add them as URLs
- [06:12:01] <kingryan>
I thought skype used a "callme" or something like that?
- [06:12:18] <tantek>
pnhChris, here: http://microformats.org/wiki/hreview#Implementations
- [06:12:31] <kingryan>
the avoe internet draft seems to show a way to do nick URIs for IRC
- [06:12:51] <pnhChris>
?
- [06:12:58] <pnhChris>
add the posts?
- [06:12:59] <kingryan>
above*
- [06:13:08] <pnhChris>
or blog or whatever?
- [06:13:12] <pnhChris>
sure
- [06:13:14] <pnhChris>
um
- [06:13:57] <pnhChris>
not right this sec tho... gotta go back to work :/
- [06:14:13] <hendry>
irc://irc.freenode.net/hendry,isnick
- [06:14:22] <hendry>
not sure what that "isnick" is about
- [06:16:47] <kingryan>
since the strings after the host are opaque (they could be either a channel name or a nick), they use a string after a comma as a "parameter"
- [06:17:26] <kingryan>
here's a newer draft: http://www.faqs.org/ftp/internet-drafts/draft-butcher-irc-url-04.txt
- [06:17:59] <kingryan>
it doesn't appear the irc URIs have made it to RFC status
- [06:18:54] <kingryan>
a better guide for irc uris: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/rt-messaging/chatzilla/irc-urls.html
- [06:20:00] <hendry>
should i list my hcard on http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard#Examples or will that be too spammy
- [06:20:09] <kingryan>
sure
- [06:20:09] <tantek>
spammy in what regard?
- [06:20:36] <tantek>
hendry, feel free to list any/all hCards which you put on the Web
- [06:20:38] <hendry>
tantek: there are lots of links there already
- [06:21:00] <tantek>
hendry, you're right, and it has probably reached past the point where I need to make a separate page
- [06:21:02] <hendry>
so its not really adding any quality. only quantity
- [06:21:06] * tantek goes to edit /wiki/to-do
- [06:21:12] <tantek>
hendry, feel free to do so
- [06:21:21] <tantek>
you'll add another test case for implementers to try out
- [06:21:32] <hendry>
hokay
- [06:21:45] <pnhChris>
tantek: please add me adding hreview implementations to the to-do page :P
- [06:22:13] <pnhChris>
.. and in the time it took to type that
- [06:22:29] <hendry>
woops, i don't have an account on microformats
- [06:22:50] <hendry>
kingryan: that spec uses "isuser". pain.
- [06:22:55] <tantek>
Chris, you have to create a section for yourself on the to-do page first ;)
- [06:23:13] <pnhChris>
but i'm busy beating the crap out of movable type :(
- [06:23:17] <kingryan>
hendry, I don't think its going to get any better
- [06:23:33] <kingryan>
and it looks like it may not make it to RFC status ever
- [06:24:26] <hendry>
mediawiki says with "hendry": You have not specified a valid user name.
- [06:24:48] <hendry>
kingryan: oh dear. i wonder why if never got off the ground properly
- [06:24:59] * kingryan read carefully hendry
- [06:26:05] <kingryan>
specifically: http://microformats.org/wiki/faq#wiki_specific_questions
- [06:26:46] <hendry>
mediawiki could do with a better error message at least
- [06:28:07] <hendry>
i wonder if it is worth linking in a about/vanity page in hcard
- [06:28:11] <hendry>
probably not
- [06:28:19] <mfbot>
[[to-do]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=to-do&diff=0&oldid=6510 * Tantek * (+727) hCard examples in the wild need a their own page, with some sense of organization
- [06:29:27] <tantek>
hendry, it's a test, design to provoke an FAQ researching response
- [06:30:32] <hendry>
and i failed? :)
- [06:36:50] <mfbot>
[[to-do]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=to-do&diff=0&oldid=6511 * ChrisCasciano * (+341) added new person - me
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[[hreview]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hreview&diff=0&oldid=6512 * ChrisCasciano * (+391) Examples in the wild -
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tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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- [08:28:47] <Marko>
hello everyone
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[[citation-formats]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-formats&diff=0&oldid=6513 * JakobVoss * (+658) ISBN:// Protocol - You should know
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[[User:Charlvn]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/User:Charlvn * Charlvn * (+64)
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[[User:JakobVoss]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/User:JakobVoss * JakobVoss * (+177) about me
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tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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heya tantek :)
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bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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[[citation-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-examples&diff=0&oldid=6514 * JakobVoss * (+182) Wikipedia - there is more than English!
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RobertBachmann is Robert Bachmann <http://rbach.priv.at/> and lives in Austria (Timezone: UTC 02)
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trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and runs www.csslounge.co.uk
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gsnedders is a 14 year old idiot from Scotland and pretends to have a website at http://geoffers.uni.cc/
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Jonnay is a programmer, graphic designer and musician. He blogs at http://blog.jonnay.net and his music is at http://www.jonnay.net
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http://www.stuffandnonsense.co.uk/archives/hcup_microformat.html hehe
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briansuda is brian suda of X2V fame
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- [14:51:21] <pnhChris>
ooo.. progress! http://kitchen.technorati.com/review/search/microformat%20search
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dglazkov is Dimitri Glazkov (http://glazkov.com) and lives in Birmingham, AL, USA (-6:00 GMT)
- [14:56:35] <briansuda>
dglazkov, i was just about to reply to your email to the list
- [14:56:46] <dglazkov>
hello briansuda
- [14:56:53] <briansuda>
http://www.ukoln.ac.uk/web-focus/events/workshops/webmaster-2006/ is a UK event with many universities
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there will be two panels about microformats and integrating them into a university website
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if there are any post-write-up they would be good information to pass along to the US universities you mentioned in your email
- [14:58:42] <dglazkov>
cool!
- [15:00:12] <briansuda>
if you are interested i can try to put you in contact with some of the organizers
- [15:00:23] <dglazkov>
yes, that would be great!
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Dammit, I'll be at @media
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- [15:02:14] <briansuda>
OK, go ahead and email me with a brief About what you do, and then i'll have your contact info and can put you in touch with some of those guys.
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- [15:12:36] <dglazkov>
was it what you needed?
- [15:15:17] <briansuda>
that will do. I will forward something on to the UK folks and CC you
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good deal
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[[Template:SemanticXHTMLDesignPrinciples]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Template:SemanticXHTMLDesignPrinciples&diff=0&oldid=6520 * Olleolleolle * (+0) Added some readability-enhancing hyphens where needed
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KevinMarks, it was nice to meet you in person
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hi dmitri
- [18:15:40] <KevinMarks>
yes, you too - sorry I didn't get bakc ot the conference the next day
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we were hoping to have it up that morning and head in, but instead we were tweaking it all say
- [18:16:11] <dglazkov>
that's how it usually happens ;)
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- [18:16:33] <dglazkov>
need to make a calendar view
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what's happening next week, next month, etc.
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- [19:44:04] <evanpro>
So, I'm still not sure I get xoxo
- [19:44:43] <kingryan>
what about it?
- [19:44:55] <evanpro>
I'm just not sure what it's for
- [19:44:57] <evanpro>
Is it a way to encode common scripting-language data structures, like lists and associative lists, into XHTML list items?
- [19:44:59] * kingryan outlines
- [19:45:19] <kingryan>
well, that's one possibility– a generic serialization format
- [19:45:29] <kingryan>
but it was concieved as a replacement for opml
- [19:45:32] <evanpro>
So it's specifically for making outlines, like for a presentation, or for a long document
- [19:45:45] <evanpro>
OK
- [19:54:30] <kingryan>
yeah, or just lists like blogrolls
- [19:55:14] <KevinMarks>
well, it staretd for outlines, but it grew into a serialization format
- [20:02:57] <evanpro>
OK so, let me point to
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http://microformats.org/wiki/xoxo <-- this page itself
- [20:03:13] <evanpro>
If you have your MediaWiki setting configured correctly...
- [20:03:22] <evanpro>
...you should see a big table contents at the top of the page
- [20:03:30] <evanpro>
would that be an appropriate application?
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if that ToC were marked up as xoxo?
- [20:04:08] <evanpro>
s/a big table contents/a big table of contents/
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- [20:04:51] <KevinMarks>
yes
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- [20:05:33] <KevinMarks>
hm, netsplit
- [20:05:37] <KevinMarks>
yes, that would be a good use of XOXO
- [20:16:55] <evanpro>
KevinMarks: that's what I thought
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- [21:22:14] <tantek>
greetings
- [21:22:31] <briansuda>
greetings
- [21:23:17] <tantek>
we just updated Microformats Search with some subtle but useful improvements, like microformats found within blog posts are linked to via post permalinks. So if you've been posting hReviews in blog posts etc. see how well those results show up now.
- [21:24:11] <tantek>
the subtle visual change that will indicate that you are using the update is in the names of the subsearch links in the footer, e.g. old: "Contact Search", new: "Contacts Search"\
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s/\\//
- [21:25:10] <briansuda>
OK, i had a glitch with the contact search
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http://kitchen.technorati.com/contact/search/Saint%20Louis
- [21:25:20] <briansuda>
that has a result for me to my Flickr profile
- [21:25:34] <briansuda>
i can't see how 'saint louis' is part of any microformats
- [21:25:41] <briansuda>
it DOES appear on the page, but as HOMETOWN
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mlinksva is Mike Linksvayer and from Creative Commons
- [21:30:03] <tantek>
brian, Microformats search is doing more of a general flat/relevant search
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rather than a *fielded* search like Microformat Base
- [21:31:26] <tantek>
BTW, (for everyone) try pinging your Flickr profiles (and your contacts' Flickr profiles), and see if they show up in the search results.
- [21:31:30] <tantek>
Let me know if any don't.
- [21:32:16] <kingryan>
tantek: they won't all show up fully, b/c flickr has permissions levels for profile pages- by default most of the good stuff isn't available unless logged in
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- [21:33:40] <tantek>
still, let me know what results people get
- [21:33:55] <tantek>
or try browsing/pinging Flickr profiles when not logged in
- [21:34:41] <kingryan>
no, its our spider that's not logged in
- [21:35:53] <tantek>
right, so when browsing when logged out, you'll see (hopefully) the same thing that the Technorati indexer will see
- [21:36:02] <briansuda>
http://kitchen.technorati.com/contact/search/suda has a broken image from my site because i am using the DATA URI and the spider is not properly parsing that
- [21:36:13] * pnhChris pings http://flickr.com/people/placenamehere/
- [21:36:18] <pnhChris>
(again i think)
- [21:37:14] <pnhChris>
and chunkysoup.net
- [21:37:20] <pnhChris>
which came up right away
- [21:37:24] <pnhChris>
hcard
- [21:37:49] <KevinMarks>
so we should make the spider a flickr account?
- [21:38:40] <pnhChris>
nah
- [21:39:05] <pnhChris>
people may not realize how that info is getting out
- [21:39:19] <pnhChris>
probably just cause confusion and headaches
- [21:39:42] <pnhChris>
but who am i to make that call :P
- [21:40:10] <kingryan>
KevinMarks: I think it'd have to be a contact of the person, too
- [21:40:14] <kingryan>
but I'll have to check on that
- [21:40:33] <KevinMarks>
I was being a little facetious...
- [21:41:06] <kingryan>
its not unreasonable :D
- [21:41:37] <tantek>
I suppose the spider could take its own pictures of what it found interesting and post them to Flickr.
- [21:42:02] <tantek>
actually, plenty is visible without being logged in
- [21:42:07] <tantek>
that's part of the point
- [21:42:25] <tantek>
not all YASNSs have member-only walls
- [21:42:28] <pnhChris>
whats the turnaround on a ping into a listing, typically?
- [21:42:37] <tantek>
in fact, the most successful one so far has nearly no such walls
- [21:42:53] <tantek>
pnhChris, these days, should be in seconds
- [21:42:54] <kingryan>
seconds, pnhChris
- [21:43:17] * pnhChris doesn't see his flickr profile show up yet
- [21:44:24] <kingryan>
by default, flickr doesn't show email addresses unless you're a "contact": http://www.flickr.com/account/prefs/privacy/
- [21:44:53] <kingryan>
same with IM names
- [21:45:32] <tantek>
that makes sense
- [21:45:42] <tantek>
it's natural for a contact info system to have degrees of disclosure
- [21:48:38] <pnhChris>
bug!
- [21:48:40] <pnhChris>
http://pingerati.net/about/
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hlisting link
- [21:48:50] <pnhChris>
no wiki page
- [21:49:10] <kingryan>
yeah, that's 'cause there isn't a spec yet
- [21:49:46] <pnhChris>
doesn't help someone going from the pinger know what the hell it is, now does it
- [21:49:49] <pnhChris>
:P
- [21:49:55] <kingryan>
I agree
- [21:50:52] <KevinMarks>
oops
- [21:51:05] <KevinMarks>
is there anything on hlisting on mf.org ?
- [21:51:16] <pnhChris>
brainstoming pages and a few other thigns
- [21:51:41] <pnhChris>
http://microformats.org/wiki/hlisting-proposal
- [21:51:54] <pnhChris>
http://microformats.org/wiki/hlisting-feedback
- [21:52:33] <KevinMarks>
so mayeb we need a page at hlisting that says it's not a completed one and points at those?
- [21:52:52] <kingryan>
or just drop it for now?
- [21:53:01] <kingryan>
'cause there's no need to ping things yet
- [21:53:55] <pnhChris>
or write a spec
- [21:54:48] <pnhChris>
yay.. my flickr hcard showded up
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http://kitchen.technorati.com/contact/search/casciano
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tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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bewest is curious about emerging standards and works for Alexa.com
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- [23:45:06] <bewest>
oh damn, some how I missed the last meetup
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