IRC Log for #microformats on 2006-06-05

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  5. [00:53:11] <jibot> bewest is curious about emerging standards and works for Alexa.com
  6. [01:10:54] <mfbot> [[adr-examples]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=adr-examples&diff=0&oldid=6509 * Fthiess * (+3) Fixed markup error in example
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  9. [02:27:57] <jibot> bewest is curious about emerging standards and works for Alexa.com
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  17. [03:19:05] <bewest> wow, tantek really lashed out at google
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  19. [04:34:11] <Atamido> tantek lashing out? That's crazy talk. ;)
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  21. [04:50:46] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  24. [05:11:59] <hendry> hi
  25. [05:12:30] <hendry> i have some video content and I am wondering how i sanely describe it
  26. [05:12:36] <hendry> same goes for images i guess
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  33. [05:30:42] <jibot> PhilipAshlock is in Bellingham WA and can be found online at http://www.philaestheta.com/
  34. [05:41:58] <hendry> how is one supposed to put email in hcard
  35. [05:42:25] <tantek> add class="email" to your email link
  36. [05:42:47] <hendry> just wondering why its not in the generator
  37. [05:45:13] <hendry> what about IRC?
  38. [05:45:42] <hendry> Skype
  39. [05:48:15] <pnhChris> ESP
  40. [05:48:35] <pnhChris> oh.. guess that one would be known already :P
  41. [05:48:58] * pnhChris is going a little batty
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  43. [05:49:22] <jibot> bewest is curious about emerging standards and works for Alexa.com
  44. [05:49:28] * pnhChris also wonders about http://kitchen.technorati.com/search?s=Pingerati
  45. [05:49:52] <hendry> http://hendry.iki.fi/ # i made an hcard
  46. [05:50:01] <hendry> can i validate it somewhere i wonder
  47. [05:51:59] <hendry> i don't quite get why some are div and other's span
  48. [05:52:42] <tantek> hendry, Robert has improved the generator here: http://rbach.priv.at/2006/hcard-creator
  49. [05:52:48] <tantek> I believe it has email
  50. [05:53:29] <tantek> the divs and spans have been chosen for their default presentation, you can change them
  51. [05:53:53] <tantek> you can "validate" it by trying it with a converter
  52. [05:55:15] <tantek> e.g. http://feeds.technorati.com/contacts/
  53. [05:55:37] <tantek> or Brian Suda's X2V converter, which does a bunch of nice prevalidation and reports common errors:
  54. [05:55:47] <tantek> http://suda.co.uk/projects/X2V/
  55. [05:56:21] <tantek> pnhChris, what were you expecting? are there some reviews or something that should be showing up?
  56. [05:56:32] <pnhChris> mine
  57. [05:56:44] <pnhChris> which i saw mentioned on the pingerati page
  58. [05:56:57] <pnhChris> though i probably missed something
  59. [05:57:15] <tantek> hendry, you may want to make sure your markup validates
  60. [05:57:16] <pnhChris> i'm been a bit batty.. workign ot and such
  61. [05:57:17] <tantek> http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://hendry.iki.fi/
  62. [05:57:29] <tantek> otherwise, it is not guaranteed that the elements will nest as you think they will
  63. [05:57:40] <pnhChris> http://chunkysoup.net/article/211/TechnoratisNewToys
  64. [05:57:54] <pnhChris> (and http://placenamehere.com/article/211/TechnoratisNewToys )
  65. [05:58:04] <pnhChris> both also listed in technorati's normal listings
  66. [06:00:32] <pnhChris> but i only pinged pingerati directly with the first one
  67. [06:00:50] <hendry> tantek: thanks
  68. [06:00:51] <tantek> Chris, from a cursory markup code review, I can't see anything wrong, or at least anything that would prevent your hReviews from showing up...
  69. [06:00:51] <pnhChris> and saw 2 hreview / 1 hcard mentioned when i did
  70. [06:04:07] <hendry> tantek: is there anything for irc/skype?
  71. [06:04:52] <hendry> i don't why w3c won't validate my page. are divs not allowed in spans
  72. [06:04:53] <tantek> chris, could you add your hReview containing permalinks as a nested list item underneath the Microformats Search entry in the Implementations section in the hReview spec?
  73. [06:05:01] <tantek> divs are not allowed in spans
  74. [06:06:07] <hendry> ok, i've got rid of the divs
  75. [06:06:33] <tantek> also, in (x)html strict, you must have a block-level element inside <body> before you nest any inline-level elements like <span>
  76. [06:08:36] <tantek> hendry, irc is a good question
  77. [06:08:42] <tantek> there are urls for IRC channels
  78. [06:09:21] <hendry> yes
  79. [06:09:39] <hendry> but not usernames
  80. [06:10:33] <hendry> maybe username needs its own defn
  81. [06:10:41] <tantek> not necessarily
  82. [06:10:52] <tantek> there may be a URL for starting a private IRC chat with a nick
  83. [06:11:01] <tantek> that would be a reasonable proxy
  84. [06:11:03] <hendry> i've never seen one
  85. [06:11:17] <tantek> perhaps do some research into the "irc:" URL scheme
  86. [06:11:31] <kingryan> http://www.w3.org/Addressing/draft-mirashi-url-irc-01.txt
  87. [06:11:34] <tantek> skype has skype: as well - I've seen folks use it
  88. [06:11:51] <tantek> in general, there is no more reason to have new fields for usernames etc.
  89. [06:11:55] <tantek> just add them as URLs
  90. [06:12:01] <kingryan> I thought skype used a "callme" or something like that?
  91. [06:12:18] <tantek> pnhChris, here: http://microformats.org/wiki/hreview#Implementations
  92. [06:12:31] <kingryan> the avoe internet draft seems to show a way to do nick URIs for IRC
  93. [06:12:51] <pnhChris> ?
  94. [06:12:58] <pnhChris> add the posts?
  95. [06:12:59] <kingryan> above*
  96. [06:13:08] <pnhChris> or blog or whatever?
  97. [06:13:12] <pnhChris> sure
  98. [06:13:14] <pnhChris> um
  99. [06:13:57] <pnhChris> not right this sec tho... gotta go back to work :/
  100. [06:14:13] <hendry> irc://irc.freenode.net/hendry,isnick
  101. [06:14:22] <hendry> not sure what that "isnick" is about
  102. [06:16:47] <kingryan> since the strings after the host are opaque (they could be either a channel name or a nick), they use a string after a comma as a "parameter"
  103. [06:17:26] <kingryan> here's a newer draft: http://www.faqs.org/ftp/internet-drafts/draft-butcher-irc-url-04.txt
  104. [06:17:59] <kingryan> it doesn't appear the irc URIs have made it to RFC status
  105. [06:18:54] <kingryan> a better guide for irc uris: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/rt-messaging/chatzilla/irc-urls.html
  106. [06:20:00] <hendry> should i list my hcard on http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard#Examples or will that be too spammy
  107. [06:20:09] <kingryan> sure
  108. [06:20:09] <tantek> spammy in what regard?
  109. [06:20:36] <tantek> hendry, feel free to list any/all hCards which you put on the Web
  110. [06:20:38] <hendry> tantek: there are lots of links there already
  111. [06:21:00] <tantek> hendry, you're right, and it has probably reached past the point where I need to make a separate page
  112. [06:21:02] <hendry> so its not really adding any quality. only quantity
  113. [06:21:06] * tantek goes to edit /wiki/to-do
  114. [06:21:12] <tantek> hendry, feel free to do so
  115. [06:21:21] <tantek> you'll add another test case for implementers to try out
  116. [06:21:32] <hendry> hokay
  117. [06:21:45] <pnhChris> tantek: please add me adding hreview implementations to the to-do page :P
  118. [06:22:13] <pnhChris> .. and in the time it took to type that
  119. [06:22:29] <hendry> woops, i don't have an account on microformats
  120. [06:22:50] <hendry> kingryan: that spec uses "isuser". pain.
  121. [06:22:55] <tantek> Chris, you have to create a section for yourself on the to-do page first ;)
  122. [06:23:13] <pnhChris> but i'm busy beating the crap out of movable type :(
  123. [06:23:17] <kingryan> hendry, I don't think its going to get any better
  124. [06:23:33] <kingryan> and it looks like it may not make it to RFC status ever
  125. [06:24:26] <hendry> mediawiki says with "hendry": You have not specified a valid user name.
  126. [06:24:48] <hendry> kingryan: oh dear. i wonder why if never got off the ground properly
  127. [06:24:59] * kingryan read carefully hendry
  128. [06:26:05] <kingryan> specifically: http://microformats.org/wiki/faq#wiki_specific_questions
  129. [06:26:46] <hendry> mediawiki could do with a better error message at least
  130. [06:28:07] <hendry> i wonder if it is worth linking in a about/vanity page in hcard
  131. [06:28:11] <hendry> probably not
  132. [06:28:19] <mfbot> [[to-do]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=to-do&diff=0&oldid=6510 * Tantek * (+727) hCard examples in the wild need a their own page, with some sense of organization
  133. [06:29:27] <tantek> hendry, it's a test, design to provoke an FAQ researching response
  134. [06:30:32] <hendry> and i failed? :)
  135. [06:36:50] <mfbot> [[to-do]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=to-do&diff=0&oldid=6511 * ChrisCasciano * (+341) added new person - me
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  137. [06:43:01] <mfbot> [[hreview]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hreview&diff=0&oldid=6512 * ChrisCasciano * (+391) Examples in the wild -
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  147. [07:59:46] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  151. [08:28:47] <Marko> hello everyone
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  156. [08:39:20] <mfbot> [[citation-formats]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-formats&diff=0&oldid=6513 * JakobVoss * (+658) ISBN:// Protocol - You should know
  157. [08:39:37] <mfbot> [[User:Charlvn]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/User:Charlvn * Charlvn * (+64)
  158. [08:40:57] <mfbot> [[User:JakobVoss]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/User:JakobVoss * JakobVoss * (+177) about me
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  160. [08:47:31] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
  161. [08:47:58] * ChanServ sets mode +o tantek
  162. [08:48:34] <Marko> heya tantek :)
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  164. [08:53:01] <jibot> bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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  167. [09:42:45] <mfbot> [[citation-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-examples&diff=0&oldid=6514 * JakobVoss * (+182) Wikipedia - there is more than English!
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  178. [11:37:52] <jibot> RobertBachmann is Robert Bachmann <http://rbach.priv.at/> and lives in Austria (Timezone: UTC 02)
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  182. [12:00:08] <jibot> trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and runs www.csslounge.co.uk
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  191. [13:01:08] <jibot> gsnedders is a 14 year old idiot from Scotland and pretends to have a website at http://geoffers.uni.cc/
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  194. [13:03:55] <jibot> Jonnay is a programmer, graphic designer and musician. He blogs at http://blog.jonnay.net and his music is at http://www.jonnay.net
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  199. [13:46:12] <trovster> http://www.stuffandnonsense.co.uk/archives/hcup_microformat.html hehe
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  203. [13:55:07] <jibot> briansuda is brian suda of X2V fame
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  210. [14:51:21] <pnhChris> ooo.. progress! http://kitchen.technorati.com/review/search/microformat%20search
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  212. [14:55:42] <jibot> dglazkov is Dimitri Glazkov (http://glazkov.com) and lives in Birmingham, AL, USA (-6:00 GMT)
  213. [14:56:35] <briansuda> dglazkov, i was just about to reply to your email to the list
  214. [14:56:46] <dglazkov> hello briansuda
  215. [14:56:53] <briansuda> http://www.ukoln.ac.uk/web-focus/events/workshops/webmaster-2006/ is a UK event with many universities
  216. [14:57:07] <briansuda> there will be two panels about microformats and integrating them into a university website
  217. [14:57:38] <briansuda> if there are any post-write-up they would be good information to pass along to the US universities you mentioned in your email
  218. [14:58:42] <dglazkov> cool!
  219. [15:00:12] <briansuda> if you are interested i can try to put you in contact with some of the organizers
  220. [15:00:23] <dglazkov> yes, that would be great!
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  222. [15:01:52] <trov> Dammit, I'll be at @media
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  224. [15:02:14] <briansuda> OK, go ahead and email me with a brief About what you do, and then i'll have your contact info and can put you in touch with some of those guys.
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  226. [15:12:36] <dglazkov> was it what you needed?
  227. [15:15:17] <briansuda> that will do. I will forward something on to the UK folks and CC you
  228. [15:15:45] <dglazkov> good deal
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  248. [16:47:21] <mfbot> [[xfolk]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=xfolk&diff=0&oldid=6518 * MartinRehfeld * (+106) Implementations -
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  252. [17:09:33] <jibot> cgriego is Chris Griego (-06:00)
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  258. [18:15:13] <dglazkov> KevinMarks, it was nice to meet you in person
  259. [18:15:29] <KevinMarks> hi dmitri
  260. [18:15:40] <KevinMarks> yes, you too - sorry I didn't get bakc ot the conference the next day
  261. [18:15:54] <KevinMarks> we were hoping to have it up that morning and head in, but instead we were tweaking it all say
  262. [18:16:11] <dglazkov> that's how it usually happens ;)
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  266. [18:16:33] <dglazkov> need to make a calendar view
  267. [18:16:49] <dglazkov> what's happening next week, next month, etc.
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  271. [18:44:20] <jibot> cgriego is Chris Griego (-06:00)
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  274. [19:15:16] <jibot> bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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  284. [19:44:04] <evanpro> So, I'm still not sure I get xoxo
  285. [19:44:43] <kingryan> what about it?
  286. [19:44:55] <evanpro> I'm just not sure what it's for
  287. [19:44:57] <evanpro> Is it a way to encode common scripting-language data structures, like lists and associative lists, into XHTML list items?
  288. [19:44:59] * kingryan outlines
  289. [19:45:19] <kingryan> well, that's one possibility– a generic serialization format
  290. [19:45:29] <kingryan> but it was concieved as a replacement for opml
  291. [19:45:32] <evanpro> So it's specifically for making outlines, like for a presentation, or for a long document
  292. [19:45:45] <evanpro> OK
  293. [19:54:30] <kingryan> yeah, or just lists like blogrolls
  294. [19:55:14] <KevinMarks> well, it staretd for outlines, but it grew into a serialization format
  295. [20:02:57] <evanpro> OK so, let me point to
  296. [20:03:00] <evanpro> http://microformats.org/wiki/xoxo <-- this page itself
  297. [20:03:13] <evanpro> If you have your MediaWiki setting configured correctly...
  298. [20:03:22] <evanpro> ...you should see a big table contents at the top of the page
  299. [20:03:30] <evanpro> would that be an appropriate application?
  300. [20:03:52] <evanpro> if that ToC were marked up as xoxo?
  301. [20:04:08] <evanpro> s/a big table contents/a big table of contents/
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  315. [20:04:51] <KevinMarks> yes
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  328. [20:05:33] <KevinMarks> hm, netsplit
  329. [20:05:37] <KevinMarks> yes, that would be a good use of XOXO
  330. [20:16:55] <evanpro> KevinMarks: that's what I thought
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  342. [21:22:14] <tantek> greetings
  343. [21:22:31] <briansuda> greetings
  344. [21:23:17] <tantek> we just updated Microformats Search with some subtle but useful improvements, like microformats found within blog posts are linked to via post permalinks. So if you've been posting hReviews in blog posts etc. see how well those results show up now.
  345. [21:24:11] <tantek> the subtle visual change that will indicate that you are using the update is in the names of the subsearch links in the footer, e.g. old: "Contact Search", new: "Contacts Search"\
  346. [21:24:22] <tantek> s/\\//
  347. [21:25:10] <briansuda> OK, i had a glitch with the contact search
  348. [21:25:12] <briansuda> http://kitchen.technorati.com/contact/search/Saint%20Louis
  349. [21:25:20] <briansuda> that has a result for me to my Flickr profile
  350. [21:25:34] <briansuda> i can't see how 'saint louis' is part of any microformats
  351. [21:25:41] <briansuda> it DOES appear on the page, but as HOMETOWN
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  354. [21:27:34] <jibot> mlinksva is Mike Linksvayer and from Creative Commons
  355. [21:30:03] <tantek> brian, Microformats search is doing more of a general flat/relevant search
  356. [21:30:17] <tantek> rather than a *fielded* search like Microformat Base
  357. [21:31:26] <tantek> BTW, (for everyone) try pinging your Flickr profiles (and your contacts' Flickr profiles), and see if they show up in the search results.
  358. [21:31:30] <tantek> Let me know if any don't.
  359. [21:32:16] <kingryan> tantek: they won't all show up fully, b/c flickr has permissions levels for profile pages- by default most of the good stuff isn't available unless logged in
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  361. [21:33:40] <tantek> still, let me know what results people get
  362. [21:33:55] <tantek> or try browsing/pinging Flickr profiles when not logged in
  363. [21:34:41] <kingryan> no, its our spider that's not logged in
  364. [21:35:53] <tantek> right, so when browsing when logged out, you'll see (hopefully) the same thing that the Technorati indexer will see
  365. [21:36:02] <briansuda> http://kitchen.technorati.com/contact/search/suda has a broken image from my site because i am using the DATA URI and the spider is not properly parsing that
  366. [21:36:13] * pnhChris pings http://flickr.com/people/placenamehere/
  367. [21:36:18] <pnhChris> (again i think)
  368. [21:37:14] <pnhChris> and chunkysoup.net
  369. [21:37:20] <pnhChris> which came up right away
  370. [21:37:24] <pnhChris> hcard
  371. [21:37:49] <KevinMarks> so we should make the spider a flickr account?
  372. [21:38:40] <pnhChris> nah
  373. [21:39:05] <pnhChris> people may not realize how that info is getting out
  374. [21:39:19] <pnhChris> probably just cause confusion and headaches
  375. [21:39:42] <pnhChris> but who am i to make that call :P
  376. [21:40:10] <kingryan> KevinMarks: I think it'd have to be a contact of the person, too
  377. [21:40:14] <kingryan> but I'll have to check on that
  378. [21:40:33] <KevinMarks> I was being a little facetious...
  379. [21:41:06] <kingryan> its not unreasonable :D
  380. [21:41:37] <tantek> I suppose the spider could take its own pictures of what it found interesting and post them to Flickr.
  381. [21:42:02] <tantek> actually, plenty is visible without being logged in
  382. [21:42:07] <tantek> that's part of the point
  383. [21:42:25] <tantek> not all YASNSs have member-only walls
  384. [21:42:28] <pnhChris> whats the turnaround on a ping into a listing, typically?
  385. [21:42:37] <tantek> in fact, the most successful one so far has nearly no such walls
  386. [21:42:53] <tantek> pnhChris, these days, should be in seconds
  387. [21:42:54] <kingryan> seconds, pnhChris
  388. [21:43:17] * pnhChris doesn't see his flickr profile show up yet
  389. [21:44:24] <kingryan> by default, flickr doesn't show email addresses unless you're a "contact": http://www.flickr.com/account/prefs/privacy/
  390. [21:44:53] <kingryan> same with IM names
  391. [21:45:32] <tantek> that makes sense
  392. [21:45:42] <tantek> it's natural for a contact info system to have degrees of disclosure
  393. [21:48:38] <pnhChris> bug!
  394. [21:48:40] <pnhChris> http://pingerati.net/about/
  395. [21:48:46] <pnhChris> hlisting link
  396. [21:48:50] <pnhChris> no wiki page
  397. [21:49:10] <kingryan> yeah, that's 'cause there isn't a spec yet
  398. [21:49:46] <pnhChris> doesn't help someone going from the pinger know what the hell it is, now does it
  399. [21:49:49] <pnhChris> :P
  400. [21:49:55] <kingryan> I agree
  401. [21:50:52] <KevinMarks> oops
  402. [21:51:05] <KevinMarks> is there anything on hlisting on mf.org ?
  403. [21:51:16] <pnhChris> brainstoming pages and a few other thigns
  404. [21:51:41] <pnhChris> http://microformats.org/wiki/hlisting-proposal
  405. [21:51:54] <pnhChris> http://microformats.org/wiki/hlisting-feedback
  406. [21:52:33] <KevinMarks> so mayeb we need a page at hlisting that says it's not a completed one and points at those?
  407. [21:52:52] <kingryan> or just drop it for now?
  408. [21:53:01] <kingryan> 'cause there's no need to ping things yet
  409. [21:53:55] <pnhChris> or write a spec
  410. [21:54:48] <pnhChris> yay.. my flickr hcard showded up
  411. [21:54:57] <pnhChris> http://kitchen.technorati.com/contact/search/casciano
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  426. [23:30:35] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  437. [23:45:06] <bewest> oh damn, some how I missed the last meetup
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