IRC Log for #microformats on 2006-06-21
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- [00:02:08] <kingryan>
seeya
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- [00:13:59] <drewinthehead>
hope y'all have a great time partying tonight ... it's late here so I'm turning in :)
- [00:16:18] <pnhChris>
night night drew
- [00:16:20] <pnhChris>
:)
- [00:16:48] <kingryan>
'night drewinthehead
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tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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- [03:14:28] <pnhChris>
shhhhh
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[[hcard]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard&diff=0&oldid=6774 * ScottReynen * (+200) Implementations -
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- [07:21:01] <mfbot>
[[irc]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=irc&diff=0&oldid=6775 * Charlvn * (+39) People on irc -
- [07:24:23] <Charl>
?def Charl is Charl van Niekerk and writes about standards at http://standards.za.net/
- [07:24:24] <jibot>
Charl is Charl van Niekerk and writes about standards at http://standards.za.net/
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tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and runs www.csslounge.co.uk
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- [09:55:16] <mfbot>
[[User talk:SebastienSauteur]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User_talk:SebastienSauteur&diff=0&oldid=6776 * SebastienSauteur * (+487) @Christophe : tout prêt pour.
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gsnedders is a 14 year old idiot from Scotland and pretends to have a website at http://geoffers.uni.cc/
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[[presentations]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=presentations&diff=0&oldid=6777 * PhilWilson * (+148) 2006 -
- [10:21:39] <mfbot>
[[process-fr]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=process-fr&diff=0&oldid=6778 * ChristopheDucamp * (+49) typo et fin de traduction à relire complètement
- [10:23:00] <mfbot>
[[to-do-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=to-do-fr&diff=0&oldid=6779 * ChristopheDucamp * (+16) Traductions -
- [10:23:21] <mfbot>
[[resume-formats-fr]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/resume-formats-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+2009) translation of resume-formats
- [10:24:17] <mfbot>
[[resume-feedback-fr]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/resume-feedback-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+2009) translation of resume-feedback
- [10:25:13] <mfbot>
[[hcard-authoring-fr]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-authoring-fr&diff=0&oldid=6780 * ChristopheDucamp * (+9387) translation of hcard-authoring
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[[rel-license-fr]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/rel-license-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+3659) translation of rel-license
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[[rel-nofollow-fr]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/rel-nofollow-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+4707) translation of rel-nofollow
- [10:27:36] <mfbot>
[[rel-tag-fr]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/rel-tag-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+10350) translation of rel-tag
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[[vote-links-fr]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/vote-links-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+4836) translation of vote-links
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[[xfn-implementations-fr]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/xfn-implementations-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+3422) translation xfn-implementations
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[[XOXO-fr]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/XOXO-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+17167) XOXO french translation
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[[to-do-fr]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=to-do-fr&diff=0&oldid=6781 * ChristopheDucamp * (+90) Traductions - liste à compléter - je file déjeuner
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ryanlowe is Ryan Lowe, http://www.fanconcert.com
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thanks jibot
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[[to-do-fr]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=to-do-fr&diff=0&oldid=6782 * ChristopheDucamp * (+84) Traductions - à compléter
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dglazkov is Dimitri Glazkov (http://glazkov.com) and lives in Birmingham, AL, USA (-6:00 GMT)
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pnhChris is Chris Casciano, blogs at http://placenamehere.com/ , and a member of the Web Standards Project.
- [13:26:07] <pnhChris>
happy birthday hangover microformats :P
- [13:26:50] <dglazkov>
don't talk so loud!
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:)
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briansuda is brian suda of http://suda.co.uk/ and http://claimid.com/briansuda in his freetime he works on the X2V microformats parser (-0600 CST)
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cgriego is Chris Griego (-06:00)
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i have a quick question for you guys... hopefully you can answer
- [15:00:48] <kramez>
i've seen many conflicting examples on how to do an hcard
- [15:01:01] <pnhChris>
shoot
- [15:01:18] <kramez>
from what i can tell, it should be wrapped in a block level element with a class of "vcard"
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- [15:02:07] <kramez>
from there you can use spans on most anything, unless it's a group as in the case of address?
- [15:02:10] <kramez>
is that correct?
- [15:02:32] <dglazkov>
doesn't need to be a block element... can be inline
- [15:02:56] <dglazkov>
block/inline have no meaning in interpreting hCard
- [15:03:59] <kramez>
so it really doesn't matter what element i use to wrap as long as the class is correct?
- [15:04:15] <dglazkov>
yes, and as long as your markup is valid
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document.getElementByClassName
- [15:04:39] <dglazkov>
for instance, span.vcard div.org ain't gonna work
- [15:05:02] <kramez>
right...
- [15:05:07] <kramez>
so, in this example:
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<div class="vcard sm">
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<div class="fn org"><b>Company Name</b></div> |
- [15:05:08] <kramez>
<span class="sm"><span class="street-address">123 Address Lane</span> <span class="locality">Sioux Falls</span>, <span class="region">SD</span> <span class="postal-code">57105</span></span><br />
- [15:05:08] <kramez>
</div>
- [15:05:40] <dglazkov>
you can do <b class="fn ord">
- [15:05:48] <dglazkov>
ord -> org
- [15:06:06] <paulproteus>
dglazkov, I see the fnord!
- [15:06:20] <dglazkov>
Oooh
- [15:06:38] <dglazkov>
to be honest, I couldn't make it through the book :)
- [15:06:43] <kramez>
cool... i'm just trying to get things straightened out...
- [15:07:08] <dglazkov>
kramez: and <span class="sm adr">
- [15:08:31] <kramez>
you can combine those then?
- [15:08:57] <dglazkov>
sure. sm is yours, right? i.e. not part of hCard
- [15:09:02] <kramez>
right
- [15:09:57] <kramez>
does the state NEED to be broken out into the region class, or can it just be included in the locality?
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- [15:11:13] <briansuda>
locality == city, region == state, so "Sioux Falls SD" is not a city
- [15:12:26] <kramez>
cool - makes sense now guys -- thanks for the help, much appreciated
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Ragdoll is Justin McDowell (http://www.deadringerart.com). He works for the National Arbor Day Foundation as a multimedia designer.
- [15:13:38] <Ragdoll>
Hello all.
- [15:13:53] <Ragdoll>
Got a question about microformats (o'course!)
- [15:14:19] <Ragdoll>
How does one use the sort-string property for hCards?
- [15:14:30] <Ragdoll>
That is all, for now.
- [15:17:56] <dglazkov>
never used it, but I assume you just set the class for whatever is the logical sort string for the vcard?
- [15:18:47] <dglazkov>
http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard-examples#3.6.5_SORT-STRING_Type_Definition
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- [15:21:38] <Ragdoll>
Ah, thanks muchly, dglazkov.
- [15:22:42] <dglazkov>
np
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- [18:12:37] <kingryan>
DanC, you around?
- [18:13:49] <DanC>
sorta
- [18:13:57] <kingryan>
quick hg question
- [18:14:05] <kingryan>
I've mangaged to create 2 heads in the tests repo
- [18:14:09] <kingryan>
not sure how to resolve them into one
- [18:15:27] <kingryan>
I can go ask the mercurial'ers if you don't have time
- [18:15:55] * DanC takes an hg view...
- [18:16:20] <DanC>
hmm... when I pull, I get:
- [18:16:21] <DanC>
not updating, since new heads added
- [18:16:21] <DanC>
(run 'hg heads' to see heads, 'hg merge' to merge)
- [18:17:01] <kingryan>
ah, merge can take a revision hash
- [18:17:18] <DanC>
your "adding label" commit... did you not push that until just now?
- [18:17:29] <DanC>
I thought I pulled before I did my "fixed goofy abbr"
- [18:18:01] <kingryan>
I think it was my fault
- [18:18:18] <kingryan>
I had some outstanding changes before yours
- [18:18:28] <kingryan>
but they were on different files, so I didn't think it'd be a problem
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- [18:18:47] <kingryan>
I've got it merged on my side now, pushing...
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- [18:24:18] <DanC>
sounds good..
- [18:24:21] <briansuda>
kingryan, while DanC is here, have you been checking your mf-dev list email
- [18:24:32] * DanC wanders off to a meeting..
- [18:24:33] <kingryan>
yeah, just responding now
- [18:24:37] <kingryan>
:D
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- [18:34:47] * bewest checks yahoo local
- [18:34:50] <bewest>
very cool
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- [18:35:04] <bewest>
little vcards everywhere
- [18:35:33] <bewest>
has yahoo been added to the wiki?
- [18:35:53] <bewest>
seems like there should be a blog post about it
- [18:36:21] <dglazkov>
are you sure? where?
- [18:36:33] * dglazkov doesn't see any hcards
- [18:36:49] <bewest>
dglazkov: do a search for pizza or something in yahoo local
- [18:36:59] <dglazkov>
ooh.. cool!
- [18:37:12] <dglazkov>
reviews, hcards -- awesome!
- [18:37:51] <kingryan>
yeah 17 million new pieced of microformatted data
- [18:37:55] <kingryan>
pieces*
- [18:38:11] <kingryan>
I'm gonna write a blog post, but I'm still trying to get all the facts straight
- [18:39:39] * pnhChris wonders if addressbook.app can hold all of em :P
- [18:39:51] <kingryan>
I'd like to see someone try
- [18:39:54] <kingryan>
:D
- [18:40:26] <bewest>
they even tried the include thing
- [18:40:29] <bewest>
<object style="width:0; height:0" data="#biz" class="include" type="text/html">
- [18:40:50] <kingryan>
yeah, they'd actually asked tantek about that before we came up with it
- [18:40:58] <kingryan>
since they have many reviews of the same thing on a page
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- [18:46:47] * pnhChris doesn't think so
- [18:48:39] <dglazkov>
this is sooo flickerd
- [18:49:03] <dglazkov>
when did the add this?
- [18:49:22] <dglazkov>
http://flickr.com/photos/dglazkov/172116521/
- [18:49:48] <kingryan>
today
- [18:50:03] <dglazkov>
excellent
- [18:51:04] * pnhChris can't see it.. cause he seems to be cut off from 3/4 of the intorweb
- [18:51:36] <dglazkov>
oh, it's really, really cool, pnhChris! ;)
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- [18:52:20] <bewest>
dglazkov: I like your crap -> good strategy too
- [18:52:50] <dglazkov>
heh :)
- [18:53:00] <pnhChris>
you posted something i was gonna comment on the other night.. but i forget what
- [18:53:15] <bewest>
who is you?
- [18:53:21] <pnhChris>
dg
- [18:53:34] <dglazkov>
I bet it was CSS2 sucks :)
- [18:53:44] <pnhChris>
haha
- [18:53:45] <pnhChris>
yeah
- [18:53:46] <pnhChris>
it as
- [18:54:07] <pnhChris>
it was
- [18:54:07] <pnhChris>
cause i saw that too
- [18:54:07] <pnhChris>
seen it before there
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- [18:54:34] <pnhChris>
they handle it fairly well
- [18:54:38] <pnhChris>
layout wise
- [18:54:58] <dglazkov>
yeah. newsvine does a good job
- [18:56:26] <kingryan>
CSS2 sux?
- [18:56:35] <kingryan>
better than CSS1
- [18:57:02] <dglazkov>
oh yeah. tons better. but still sux :)
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I'm waiting for CSS4
- [18:58:08] <dglazkov>
me too. Well, I am telling my children to tell their grandchildren to wait for it
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hehe.
- [18:59:19] <trovster>
CSS2.1 is fine.
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CSS 2.1 is taking too long, IMO.
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- [21:11:56] <kingryan>
http://microformats.org/blog/2006/06/21/yahoo-local-supports-microformats/
- [21:14:30] <dmn_>
Question: I've been looking over the sample AHAH code@http://microformats.org/wiki/rest/ahah and I don't see where you prep your vars for sending. Am I missing something?
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Or is this just incomplete code?
- [21:15:41] <trovster>
Wow, kingryan but doesn't make sense
- [21:15:57] <kingryan>
huh, trovster
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whoos s/not/now/
- [21:16:12] <trovster>
ahoo Local has announced that they’re not publishing their data in microformats. -- not
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:D
- [21:16:56] * kingryan fixed
- [21:16:59] <kingryan>
thanks for the catch
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- [21:17:13] <kingryan>
I swear I read over it several times before hitting publish
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Hard to spot, probably
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Like the 'of' phenominon
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greetings!
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- [22:23:19] <PhilipAshlock>
pnhChris: i had a few words with tantek here at the supernova conference and he pointed me to you and your involvement with textpattern. textpattern and microformats are the two projects i try to keep myself most involved with. I've done a few simple txp plugins and hacked a bit into the user management side of things. I'm wondering about working with the existing user/author management in txp and developing some robustness
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around XFN to create some more social networking capabilities and interoperability. I thought i might pass that by you to see what your interest was...
- [22:23:50] <DanC>
argh! I missed office hours again!
- [22:23:58] <tantek>
hi Dan
- [22:24:39] <pnhChris>
PhilipAshlock: you going to be around tonight.. don't have the time to chat at the moment.. but I can later, or another day
- [22:24:57] <pnhChris>
have you seen my textpattern plugin?
- [22:25:19] <pnhChris>
doesn't do much with xfn.. mostly adding hooks for content authoring
- [22:25:23] <PhilipAshlock>
yeah, have you seen any of mine?
- [22:27:11] <pnhChris>
may have... don't recall at the moment
- [22:27:13] <PhilipAshlock>
i think i just have a really simple one up on textpattern.org (beginning) and i get a lot of unworthy cred for jon hicks showing that he uses it. I'm surprised he doesn't use your plugin, because he's got microformat content marked up
- [22:28:06] <PhilipAshlock>
i'm thinking about more integrated social networking possibilities built off of open CMS platforms and using microformats
- [22:28:44] <DanC>
hi tantek. Well, I answered some uf-dev mail this week, and I really thought I could clear my desk for some office hours today...
- [22:28:46] <DanC>
... but no joy
- [22:28:51] <DanC>
I see I didn't miss too much
- [22:29:00] <pnhChris>
catch me a little later.. trying to wrap up my day here
- [22:29:06] <pnhChris>
i'm always around :)
- [22:29:31] <PhilipAshlock>
cool, will do
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and try to start an exploratory discussion on the wiki tonight
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