IRC Log for #microformats on 2006-07-15

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  1. [00:01:06] <powr-toc> briansuda: hmm interesting... but there's no proof there.
  2. [00:02:10] <briansuda> i'm not the best to explain all the finer points of XFN in relation to Blog Comments. I don't deal with it on a daily basis
  3. [00:02:53] <briansuda> there has been talks of microID which is not really a microformat and has holes with the security model, so it is not "
  4. [00:03:03] <briansuda> a digital signature"
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  8. [00:12:34] <powr-toc> briansuda: sounds like you need another microformat then =)
  9. [00:15:42] <briansuda> well, microformats are community and use-case driven, if no one is crying out for a secure way to track comments, then it isn't real in our interest.
  10. [00:16:06] <briansuda> I think there are a few services out there that already track what you comment on?i can't remember their names at the moment
  11. [00:16:37] <briansuda> i do think that we have all the tools already, with out over complicating everything, it is just a matter of how they are implemented
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  18. [00:28:45] <bewest> yeah, there's some work with openID people
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  21. [00:29:52] <jibot> drewinthehead is Drew McLellan - watch him, he's tricky.
  22. [00:32:31] <ajturner> http://commentful.com/ ; http://co.mments.com
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  24. [00:36:05] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  55. [05:43:17] <jibot> Thinine is a Philosopher and trivial hacker on WebKit and is likely here to bother the WebKit devs.
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  57. [05:46:49] <jibot> sreynen is Scott Reynen, who makes things at makedatamakesense.com
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  67. [07:21:49] <jibot> mlinksva is Mike Linksvayer and from Creative Commons
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  78. [10:06:28] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  84. [11:18:03] <chucker> is the W3C Software License roughly equivalent to BSD/MIT, or to GPL?
  85. [11:24:13] <chucker> "It's similar to the modified BSD licence" a-ha. Wikipedia to the rescue
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  87. [11:53:10] <jibot> pnhChris is Chris Casciano, blogs at http://placenamehere.com/ , and a member of the Web Standards Project.
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  89. [12:08:32] <jibot> McNulty is Ciaran McNulty who works for maximalls.com and is present at ciaranmcnulty.com and Ciaran McNulty from ciaranmcnulty.com who lives in London and works for maximalls.com
  90. [12:09:30] <McNulty> Huh I've messed that up somehow
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  92. [12:25:55] <mfbot> [[Main Page-ja]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Main_Page-ja&diff=0&oldid=7449 * IwaiMasaharu * (-5) デザインパターン - 日本語の表現を変更
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  95. [13:03:07] <mfbot> [[User:IwaiMasaharu/english-to-japanese-map]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:IwaiMasaharu/english-to-japanese-map&diff=0&oldid=7450 * IwaiMasaharu * (+20) add Concept
  96. [13:07:33] <mfbot> [[rel-nofollow-ja]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/rel-nofollow-ja * IwaiMasaharu * (+4235) english 01:10, 14 Jun 2006
  97. [13:31:55] <mfbot> [[rel-nofollow-ja]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=rel-nofollow-ja&diff=0&oldid=7451 * IwaiMasaharu * (+249) rel="nofollow" - 概要まで翻訳
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  101. [13:45:17] <mfbot> [[User:IwaiMasaharu]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:IwaiMasaharu&diff=0&oldid=7453 * IwaiMasaharu * (+2) 対訳表 -
  102. [13:48:28] <mfbot> [[User:IwaiMasaharu/english-to-japanese-map-for-wiki-notation]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/User:IwaiMasaharu/english-to-japanese-map-for-wiki-notation * IwaiMasaharu * (+234)
  103. [13:50:59] <mfbot> [[rel-nofollow-ja]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=rel-nofollow-ja&diff=0&oldid=7454 * IwaiMasaharu * (+3) 特許 - テンプレートの使用
  104. [14:00:45] <mfbot> [[User:IwaiMasaharu/english-to-japanese-map]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:IwaiMasaharu/english-to-japanese-map&diff=0&oldid=7455 * IwaiMasaharu * (+147)
  105. [14:02:27] <mfbot> [[User:IwaiMasaharu/english-to-japanese-map]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:IwaiMasaharu/english-to-japanese-map&diff=0&oldid=7456 * IwaiMasaharu * (+56)
  106. [14:12:58] <mfbot> [[elemental-microformat-ja]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/elemental-microformat-ja * IwaiMasaharu * (+585) english: 20:56, 25 Apr 2006
  107. [14:14:24] <mfbot> [[elemental-microformat-ja]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=elemental-microformat-ja&diff=0&oldid=7457 * IwaiMasaharu * (+92) ざっくりと訳した
  108. [14:18:50] <mfbot> [[elemental-microformat]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=elemental-microformat&diff=0&oldid=7458 * IwaiMasaharu * (+5) update links
  109. [14:20:26] <mfbot> [[elemental-microformat-ja]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=elemental-microformat-ja&diff=0&oldid=7459 * IwaiMasaharu * (+14) sync: english: 14:18, 15 Jul 2006
  110. [14:25:27] <mfbot> [[rel-nofollow-ja]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=rel-nofollow-ja&diff=0&oldid=7460 * IwaiMasaharu * (-6) 概要 - 訳語の修正
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  114. [15:27:15] <jibot> trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and helps with www.multipack.co.uk
  115. [15:27:32] <trovster> Hey, whats the best guess and form filling microformat that drew did?
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  117. [15:28:38] <jibot> McNulty is Ciaran McNulty who works for maximalls.com and is present at ciaranmcnulty.com and Ciaran McNulty from ciaranmcnulty.com who lives in London and works for maximalls.com
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  121. [15:40:52] <jibot> remi is Remi Prevost, a web developper (yeah, that's how we spell "developer" in french) from Quebec and blogs about web stuff at <http://remiprevost.com/>
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  124. [15:56:21] <pnhChris> trovster: if you're listening out there its http://allinthehead.com/demo/hcard/best-guess.php
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  130. [17:44:23] <mfbot> [[metalink-examples]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/metalink-examples * Ant * (+2593) Metalink microformat
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  139. [18:31:17] <mfbot> [[irc-ja]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=irc-ja&diff=0&oldid=7462 * IwaiMasaharu * (+234) Microformats IRC - 日本語用チャンネルの情報を追加
  140. [18:33:23] <mfbot> [[irc-ja]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=irc-ja&diff=0&oldid=7463 * IwaiMasaharu * (-15) Microformats IRC - 変な日本語を修正
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  145. [18:50:36] <jibot> Jedi_ is Jedi <http://Jedi.org/> (+08:00) and working at Creative Commons Taiwan <http://creativecommons.org.tw/>
  146. [18:50:54] <mfbot> [[User:IwaiMasaharu/english-to-japanese-map]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:IwaiMasaharu/english-to-japanese-map&diff=0&oldid=7464 * IwaiMasaharu * (+17)
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  149. [19:08:12] <mfbot> [[presentations-ja]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=presentations-ja&diff=0&oldid=7466 * IwaiMasaharu * (+28) 英単語を日本語訳
  150. [19:09:08] <mfbot> [[Main Page-ja]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Main_Page-ja&diff=0&oldid=7467 * IwaiMasaharu * (+28) はじめに - 英単語を日本語訳
  151. [19:09:19] <mfbot> [[metalink-examples]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=metalink-examples&diff=0&oldid=7468 * Ant * (+144)
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  156. [19:31:11] <mfbot> [[introduction-ja]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=introduction-ja&diff=0&oldid=7470 * IwaiMasaharu * (+0)
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  160. [20:08:44] * pnhChris sees brent simmons found his latest microformat / netnewswire script
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  162. [20:38:00] <jibot> trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and helps with www.multipack.co.uk
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  177. [21:53:52] <jibot> McNulty is Ciaran McNulty who works for maximalls.com and is present at ciaranmcnulty.com and Ciaran McNulty from ciaranmcnulty.com who lives in London and works for maximalls.com
  178. [21:54:35] <bewes1> is the labnotes guy here?
  179. [21:54:53] <bewes1> assaf?
  180. [21:56:31] <McNulty> ?forgetme
  181. [21:56:32] <jibot> I have expunged McNulty from my mind
  182. [21:57:08] <McNulty> ?def McNulty is Ciaran McNulty (http://ciaranmcnulty.com)
  183. [21:57:09] <jibot> McNulty is Ciaran McNulty (http://ciaranmcnulty.com)
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  185. [22:10:31] <bewes1> gah.. I'm foiled
  186. [22:10:50] <bewes1> stupid webhost has a b0rked python install and no php5
  187. [22:11:05] <bewes1> I don't like doing xml-ish things in php4
  188. [22:11:31] <bewes1> anyone have a microformat2json proxy?
  189. [22:18:16] <McNulty> drewinthehead might.
  190. [22:18:36] <McNulty> his n best-guess thing can output JSON anyhow
  191. [22:19:18] <McNulty> hm, if he's got one it's not liked from his front page sadly
  192. [22:24:02] * bewes1 wonders if he wrote several translator python scripts if someone would host them
  193. [22:24:27] <McNulty> your host really doesn't have PHP5 yet
  194. [22:24:33] <bewes1> nope
  195. [22:24:40] <McNulty> wow
  196. [22:24:48] <bewes1> I'm considering jumping out of the php boat anyway
  197. [22:24:59] <bewes1> 5 years now doing almost exclusively php
  198. [22:25:03] <bewes1> time for me to do some other thigns
  199. [22:25:41] * trovster does do PHP5 yet
  200. [22:25:53] <McNulty> Python, then? Or maybe Ruby?
  201. [22:25:56] * bewes1 is tempted to ssh to work and use machines that work
  202. [22:26:03] <bewes1> yeah, doing python now
  203. [22:26:06] <bewes1> and maybe ruby
  204. [22:26:08] <bewes1> we'll see
  205. [22:26:09] <trovster> McNulty: http://allinthehead.com/demo/hcard/best-guess.php is the best-guess thing
  206. [22:26:25] <bewes1> hmm mthat's not his new uri though
  207. [22:26:29] <McNulty> I wouldn't bail out of PHP right now
  208. [22:26:41] <McNulty> it's on tools.microformatics.com now
  209. [22:26:43] <trovster> bewes1: it's what he gave me about an hour ago
  210. [22:26:49] <bewes1> yeah
  211. [22:27:06] <McNulty> you can persuade it to spit out JSON with a bit of URLing
  212. [22:27:23] <bewes1> tools.microformatics.com/help/xhtml/best-guess/
  213. [22:27:24] <bewes1> I thnk
  214. [22:27:30] <bewes1> McNulty: yeah, I helped him design the URI
  215. [22:28:05] <bewes1> seems down perhaps
  216. [22:28:11] <bewes1> it says "back soon."
  217. [22:28:19] <McNulty> should be tools.microformatics.com/help/best-guess and content-negotiate ;-)
  218. [22:28:36] <bewes1> McNulty: no, the decision was to go against content-negotiation
  219. [22:28:42] <McNulty> why so?
  220. [22:28:58] <bewes1> how do you set the accept headers when using get_file_contents()?
  221. [22:29:04] <McNulty> use CURL
  222. [22:29:05] <McNulty> :-)
  223. [22:29:15] <McNulty> I take your point
  224. [22:29:33] <McNulty> There should be a way of forcing it as well as a content-type-agnostic URL
  225. [22:29:45] <bewes1> there still is
  226. [22:29:54] <bewes1> you can specify guess or all
  227. [22:29:57] <McNulty> oh ok ignore everything i've said then
  228. [22:30:03] <bewes1> and it would try to do content negotiation
  229. [22:31:13] <bewes1> so something like tools.microformatics.com/help/guess/best-guess/query/?options
  230. [22:31:47] <bewes1> where guess is the "format" where something like "guess", "all", or "negotiate" would do content negotiation
  231. [22:32:01] <bewes1> otherwise if you do json or xhtml or xml or something like that, it's very opaque as to what you'll be getting
  232. [22:32:41] <bewes1> help is the action: one of help, query, advise...
  233. [22:34:09] * bewes1 really doesn't want to ssh to work to use work machines for personal projects
  234. [22:40:18] <McNulty> are you sure they don't have PHP5 installed as well?
  235. [22:40:31] <McNulty> My webhost runs .php through PHP4 and .php5 through PHP5
  236. [22:40:46] <McNulty> which is frankly stupid but, well...
  237. [22:41:53] * bewes1 tries it
  238. [22:42:26] <bewes1> what does whereis php say for you though?
  239. [22:42:36] <bewes1> wouldn't it show up?
  240. [22:43:34] <McNulty> I don't have ssh access
  241. [22:43:42] <bewes1> ah
  242. [22:43:50] <McNulty> but whereis PHP just tells you where the first PHP on the path is, doesn't it?
  243. [22:44:06] <McNulty> Doesn't necessarily map on to where the PHP being run by Apache is,
  244. [22:44:14] <McNulty> Is it mod_php or CGI?
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  246. [22:46:20] <jibot> ryanlowe is Ryan Lowe, http://www.fanconcert.com
  247. [22:46:21] <pnhChris> looking for something permanent, or just a place to try some stuff tonight?
  248. [22:49:32] <bewes1> both
  249. [22:49:46] <bewes1> right now I'm trying stuff out
  250. [22:49:57] <bewes1> I have a place, but will be moving I think
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