IRC Log for #microformats on 2006-08-18

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  11. [02:10:53] <jibot> pnhChris is Chris Casciano, blogs at http://placenamehere.com/ , and a member of the Web Standards Project.
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  21. [02:47:47] <jibot> cgriego is Chris Griego (-06:00) and a front-end developer at RD2, Inc.
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  29. [03:53:09] <mfbot> [[presentations]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=presentations&diff=0&oldid=8189 * Brian * (+32) Added EuroOSCON page
  30. [04:02:05] <mfbot> [[events/2006-09-19-eurooscon]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/events/2006-09-19-eurooscon * Brian * (+1680) Stubbed page for EuroOSCON presentation
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  46. [06:26:00] <mfbot> [[events/2006-08-17-refresh-dc-microformats]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events/2006-08-17-refresh-dc-microformats&diff=0&oldid=8190 * Veeliam * (+65) Attending -
  47. [06:27:46] <mfbot> [[User:Veeliam]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/User:Veeliam * Veeliam * (+21)
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  52. [06:42:40] <jibot> Charl is Charl van Niekerk and writes about standards at http://standards.za.net/
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  54. [07:28:05] <KevinMarks> http://decafbad.com/blog/2006/08/17/dont-ask-me-who-i-am
  55. [07:35:57] <yakk> hmm
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  57. [07:36:08] <yakk> I want to be able to publish identity
  58. [07:36:11] <yakk> and consume it
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  60. [07:58:54] <jibot> drewinthehead is the author of hKit and a developer for Yahoo! Europe
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  63. [08:03:15] <jibot> trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and helps with www.multipack.co.uk
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  65. [08:34:14] <KevinMarks> yakk: hCard
  66. [08:36:14] <drewinthehead> is that an exclamation of distain, KevinMarks?
  67. [08:36:44] <drewinthehead> (disdain, even)
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  69. [09:49:46] <jibot> danja is Danny Ayers, http://dannyayers.com
  70. [09:50:24] <imajes> hey danny
  71. [09:51:28] <danja> hiya
  72. [09:51:36] <danja> thought I'd come and lurk awhile
  73. [09:52:36] <imajes> cool :)
  74. [09:53:06] <drewinthehead> welcome :)
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  82. [11:25:00] <jibot> Phae is Frances Berriman of http://www.fberriman.com/
  83. [11:31:13] <trovster> Phae: You need to add #multipack to your join
  84. [11:33:25] <Phae> I do at home.
  85. [11:33:34] <Phae> Or should I say, it is at home.
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  88. [11:38:01] <jibot> gsnedders is a 14 year old idiot from Scotland and pretends to have a website at http://geoffers.uni.cc/
  89. [11:41:13] <Phae> bbl
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  93. [11:57:35] <jibot> drewinthehead is the author of hKit and a developer for Yahoo! Europe
  94. [11:57:55] <drewinthehead> greetings
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  96. [12:10:42] <jibot> csarven is Sarven Capadisli and can be found online at http://www.csarven.ca
  97. [12:20:50] <trovster> Ah, Photobooth is fun :)(
  98. [12:22:19] <drewinthehead> indeed :)
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  100. [12:35:12] <jibot> pnhChris is Chris Casciano, blogs at http://placenamehere.com/ , and a member of the Web Standards Project.
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  103. [12:42:55] <danja> after visiting gsnedders' blog I realise I suffer from a) ME and/or b) hypochondria
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  105. [12:43:46] <jibot> amanuel is Amanuel, the social ambassador at http://otavo.com
  106. [12:46:57] <drewinthehead> why's that, danja?
  107. [12:47:43] <danja> sorry, I forgot it wasn't on the front page
  108. [12:48:00] <danja> I (think I) have all the symptoms here: http://geoffers.uni.cc/archives/2006/05/31/10-problems-me/
  109. [12:48:36] <danja> except the school bit. missed most of that through choice ;-)
  110. [12:49:11] <drewinthehead> heh :)
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  112. [12:53:51] <jibot> bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
  113. [12:57:07] <gsnedders> heh :)
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  116. [13:02:26] <jibot> briansuda is brian suda of http://suda.co.uk/ and http://claimid.com/briansuda in his freetime he works on the X2V microformats parser (-0600 CST)
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  121. [13:59:47] <jibot> briansuda is brian suda of http://suda.co.uk/ and http://claimid.com/briansuda in his freetime he works on the X2V microformats parser (-0600 CST)
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  126. [14:03:26] <jibot> sreynen is Scott Reynen, who makes things at makedatamakesense.com
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  129. [14:23:46] <jibot> dglazkov is Dimitri Glazkov (http://glazkov.com) and lives in Birmingham, AL, USA (-6:00 GMT)
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  136. [15:09:52] <mfbot> [[events/2006-08-17-refresh-dc-microformats]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events/2006-08-17-refresh-dc-microformats&diff=0&oldid=8191 * MBradley * (+17) Attending -
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  141. [15:24:02] <jibot> Phae is Frances Berriman of http://www.fberriman.com/
  142. [15:24:35] <Phae> One of the bosses asked me something funny today "Are you aware of the CSS Zen Garden?"
  143. [15:24:56] <trovster> How's that funny?
  144. [15:25:11] <Phae> Well, being a CSS developer...
  145. [15:25:20] <Phae> nm.
  146. [15:25:46] <ajturner> I've spent the past 2 years trying to convince our web developer that CSS is useful - but she's stuck in Frontpage land
  147. [15:26:01] <Phae> fun.
  148. [15:27:37] <pnhChris> stabble stabble stabble
  149. [15:27:50] <ajturner> definitely, but the mgmt says "she's got her process" - and the site looks decent, just a mess to do anything with
  150. [15:27:54] <Phae> I'm surprised that anyone, in a professional sense, uses FP still.
  151. [15:27:57] <ajturner> and if you touch it by hand, Frontpage freaks
  152. [15:28:37] <ajturner> I was rather surprised too - but it's a reminder between the leading edge, and the 'old status quo'
  153. [15:28:51] <Phae> I haven't looked at frontpage since I was at school - but did it get updated to work with CSS or is it still something that produces tables sites?
  154. [15:29:10] <trovster> Yeh, I've got a false-sense of penetration. Most of the people I talk to are pretty good wiht HTML/CSS
  155. [15:29:59] <ajturner> "we" are not the "norm" ;)
  156. [15:30:31] <ajturner> It's mostly table, she does have *some* css, but very minimal - and it's still doing things like <h1 class="hdr1"> and then she's styling .hdr1
  157. [15:30:43] <Phae> I see. Delightful.
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  159. [15:31:14] <trovster> But that's 'her way'.
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  161. [15:32:00] <ajturner> sure - but she's leaving, so now someone has to eiterh pickup FP, or redo the site
  162. [15:32:15] <Phae> Is she young, btw?
  163. [15:32:23] <Phae> Or is this someone who just never updated?
  164. [15:32:39] <ajturner> I think she's more designer than web-dev
  165. [15:32:45] <ajturner> late 30's?
  166. [15:32:51] <Phae> oh
  167. [15:33:17] <ajturner> I think that's where it comes from, she's used to tools like Photoshop/InDesign
  168. [15:33:27] <ajturner> so FP gives her that Wysiwig interface
  169. [15:33:47] <Phae> Our designers (the print guys) use InDesign occasionally
  170. [15:33:58] <Phae> Yeah, but even DWs wysiwyg is better these days.
  171. [15:34:04] <drewinthehead> the new MS editor is quite good
  172. [15:34:12] <drewinthehead> i forget its name
  173. [15:34:18] <ajturner> sure, for Print that's great, and I guess real web-design shops use Photoshop then hand it to CSS/Web devs
  174. [15:34:22] <drewinthehead> but it's new from the ground up
  175. [15:34:35] <ajturner> so I can export my Word docs as clean html/css? ;)
  176. [15:35:06] <drewinthehead> http://www.microsoft.com/products/expression/en/web_designer/default.mspx
  177. [15:36:39] <drewinthehead> it's pretty good from a standards point of view, i'm told
  178. [15:36:45] <Phae> brb
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  180. [15:36:58] <ajturner> interesting
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  182. [15:37:39] <drewinthehead> and isn't having to live with all the baggage an old program like DW carries around
  183. [15:38:13] <drewinthehead> i welcome the competition into the market - forces everyone to lift their game
  184. [15:38:40] <ajturner> bah - my video decompressor is bad
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  186. [15:41:30] <jibot> gsnedders is a 14 year old idiot from Scotland and pretends to have a website at http://geoffers.uni.cc/
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  189. [15:42:33] <jibot> cgriego is Chris Griego (-06:00) and a front-end developer at RD2, Inc.
  190. [15:44:09] <trovster> http://muffinresearch.co.uk/archives/2006/08/17/october-wsg-meetup-microformats/ people might be interested in adding info there
  191. [15:44:31] <Phae> october
  192. [15:44:39] <Phae> i thought the next was november.
  193. [15:44:40] <Phae> hm.
  194. [15:45:08] <trovster> He talks about September, being every two months...
  195. [15:45:28] <Phae> Yeah, he said at the july one november, since then it'd skip christmas
  196. [15:45:35] <Phae> Anyway, I don't mind.
  197. [15:45:42] <Phae> An MF one is cool.
  198. [15:45:45] <trovster> Me either. I'm not going
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  200. [15:46:02] <Phae> :P
  201. [15:46:51] <drewinthehead> i'll be there
  202. [15:46:57] <Phae> I'm sure I will be.
  203. [15:47:02] <Phae> I need to air my t-shirt a bit more. :)
  204. [15:47:19] <drewinthehead> why? is it stinky? :P
  205. [15:47:28] * Phae sulks.
  206. [15:47:36] * briansuda need to get a t-shirt
  207. [15:47:50] <drewinthehead> totally, briansuda
  208. [15:47:55] <Phae> Are we getting barcamp t-shirts? I won't get to wear it there if we are.
  209. [15:48:23] <drewinthehead> i couldn't possibly comment
  210. [15:48:36] <trovster> I finally got mine. After it being sent via someone in California
  211. [15:48:46] <briansuda> we need to make some temporary tatoos or some stickers, then they can be applied no matter the t-shirt
  212. [15:48:47] <Phae> I got mine via a friend in NY.
  213. [15:48:54] <Phae> Yeah, I was saying that the other night again.
  214. [15:49:00] <Phae> Or the XFN tags
  215. [15:49:14] <Phae> For meets, that is.
  216. [15:49:24] <mfbot> [[hresume]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hresume&diff=0&oldid=8192 * Spurinc * (-6)
  217. [15:50:05] <mfbot> [[hresume]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hresume&diff=0&oldid=8193 * Spurinc * (-6)
  218. [15:51:07] <drewinthehead> i got my t-shirt from kingryan, but before i knew him
  219. [15:51:22] <Phae> heh
  220. [15:51:51] <drewinthehead> he was just some random guy giving away free t-shirts in the hallway at SXSW
  221. [15:52:15] <trovster> luxuryluke sent me mine!
  222. [15:52:30] <drewinthehead> picture the scene http://flickr.com/photos/drewm/113329095/
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  224. [15:56:09] <Phae> http://www.flickr.com/photos/codepo8/217768123/
  225. [15:56:10] <Phae> \o/
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  228. [15:56:37] <drewinthehead> hooray!
  229. [15:56:48] <Phae> heh
  230. [15:56:51] <Phae> made me laugh.
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  233. [16:01:57] <jibot> mlinksva is Mike Linksvayer and from Creative Commons
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  237. [16:08:56] <Phae> oh yeah. I decided that I'll just give writing my own script a go, for form highlighting. it's as good an excuse as ever to actually get around to doing the things on my "to do" list
  238. [16:10:39] <trovster> Anything interesting the scripts I gave you?
  239. [16:11:04] <Phae> Well, it's all interesting. The only thing about that longer one you linked me to is it had no commenting.
  240. [16:11:24] <trovster> the validation?
  241. [16:11:43] <Phae> The script. No explanitory comments, so I have to hope I understand it. :)
  242. [16:11:49] <Phae> Having comments is reassuring.
  243. [16:12:28] <drewinthehead> or at least commentary
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  245. [16:13:07] <Phae> aye
  246. [16:13:12] <Phae> something.
  247. [16:13:27] <drewinthehead> for getting to grips with scripting, it's worth looking up some of jeremy keith's presentations online, Phae
  248. [16:13:44] <Phae> I've listened to some of his podcasts, and I rather like his style. He's easy to follow.
  249. [16:13:50] <Phae> Work has one of his books on order for me. :)
  250. [16:13:50] <drewinthehead> he does this nice routine of writing the script in English then translating it to code
  251. [16:13:59] <drewinthehead> superb
  252. [16:14:00] <Phae> yeah, well.. it's like I used to do for java.
  253. [16:14:10] <Phae> It's not a major learning curve for me. Just new syntax.
  254. [16:14:14] <trovster> Phae: You can win a book at Geek in the Park
  255. [16:14:22] <Phae> I can't make it though. :P
  256. [16:14:37] <drewinthehead> javascript is a walk in the park compared to java
  257. [16:14:41] * Phae nods.
  258. [16:14:43] <drewinthehead> no pun intended :)
  259. [16:14:51] <Phae> Yeah, but it's also been at least a year since I did any *real* programming.
  260. [16:15:34] <drewinthehead> the DOM is probably the biggest mental shift from something like java, but knowing CSS well makes that an easy step
  261. [16:15:41] <Phae> Yeah.
  262. [16:15:50] * drewinthehead hates java
  263. [16:15:53] <Phae> I understand the examples I've seen and such, but actually writing my own is the new part for me.
  264. [16:16:21] <Phae> So. May as well start with something I neeed.
  265. [16:16:31] <drewinthehead> always a good plan
  266. [16:16:41] <Phae> :)
  267. [16:16:46] <drewinthehead> that's the only reason i know jboss ;)
  268. [16:16:53] <trovster> Dom scripting by Jez got me in to it.
  269. [16:17:01] <Phae> Well, even if I scrap it and use someone elses, I'll have learnt something, hopefully.
  270. [16:17:07] * drewinthehead nods
  271. [16:17:22] <Phae> It's all good fun.
  272. [16:17:59] <Phae> And at least I'm going to learn it the first time the good way.
  273. [16:18:46] <trovster> Yeh, that's helped a lot I think.
  274. [16:19:33] <Phae> Well yeah. Unike my history with HTML, which I learnt the bad way the first time when I was about 15. heh
  275. [16:20:12] <Phae> I'm being told to go eat some cake.
  276. [16:20:30] <trovster> Heh, my boss is walking around the office with my MBP, taking photos of himself. While I'm listening to music through another computer FROM the one he's carrying
  277. [16:22:52] <drewinthehead> all through the power of MICROFORMATS! huzzah!
  278. [16:22:57] <drewinthehead> no, wait ..
  279. [16:23:06] <Phae> heh
  280. [16:25:34] <drewinthehead> quittin' time. catch y'all later.
  281. [16:25:35] <trovster> Phae: Tip: Grab a addEvent() function. getElementsByClassName too
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  283. [16:25:57] <Phae> Already have. :)
  284. [16:26:21] <Phae> I saw Chris Heilmanns JS chat at the WSG thing in July, so he ran through a lot of those kinds of "must haves"
  285. [16:27:04] <trovster> addClass() functions too
  286. [16:28:15] <Phae> Yeah
  287. [16:28:28] <Phae> i'm sure I'll be bothering people more about it when I get stuck
  288. [16:28:41] <trovster> XHConn is good for AJAX, and there is a good cookies defined script too.
  289. [16:28:55] <trovster> I've not used jQuery nor the $ function, but they're supposed to be very good/useful
  290. [16:29:00] <Phae> ok
  291. [16:29:12] <Phae> Well, I'll worry about that when I get to it. Now, it's time to go home. Yay Friday.
  292. [16:29:15] <Phae> TTYL.
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  296. [16:34:48] <DavidMead> i have a q about the street-address...
  297. [16:35:10] <DavidMead> it does seem to appear in the tails extension in Firefow
  298. [16:35:22] <DavidMead> is this right or have i coded it incoreeclty?
  299. [16:36:47] <trovster> try out http://tools.microformatic.com/query/plain/hkit/
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  301. [16:36:56] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  303. [16:37:12] <trovster> DavidMead: Gives me street-address on that
  304. [16:38:16] <DavidMead> This is the example i have been testing from microformats.org - <address class="adr"><div class="street-address">255 Some Street</div></address>
  305. [16:44:06] <tantek> David Mead, I believe <address> cannot contain block level elements
  306. [16:44:17] <tantek> due to the lameness of the HTML4 DTD
  307. [16:45:33] <DavidMead> but it doesn't work if i change it to span either
  308. [16:45:49] <trovster> DavidMead, did you look on microformatic I posted???
  309. [16:46:52] <DavidMead> trovster: i'll take a look now
  310. [16:50:36] <DavidMead> trovster: i took a look and the array is [adr] and the street-address is there under it http://tools.microformatic.com/query/plain/hkit/http://www.flyingcircusofphysics.com/ContactUs.aspx
  311. [16:50:57] <bewest> getElementsBySelector is a must have in my book
  312. [16:51:18] <trovster> DavidMead: Well there you go. Tails isn't complete.
  313. [16:52:08] <DavidMead> trovster: so the concensus of this group is to check using the parser and not rely on an extenstion?
  314. [16:52:08] <tantek> well it is open source afterall - you could add whatever you think makes it incomplete
  315. [16:52:34] <trovster> 'check multiple parsers' if something is not as expected, I suppose.
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  317. [16:54:22] <DavidMead> trovster: what would be the best test? to use something that actually pulled it out into Outlook etc. and see what fields come through?
  318. [16:55:20] <trovster> No idea.
  319. [16:55:31] <trovster> Best would be to test in Outlook, iCal, online parsers etc...
  320. [16:55:42] <trovster> If your goal is Outlook integration, then Outlook would do, I suppose.
  321. [16:58:16] <DavidMead> trovster: i just want to make sure that we're applying the right classes and that they will work as intended. If tails is meant to show microformats on a web page i would hope it shows the whole thing and not be selective.
  322. [16:58:49] <trovster> Well, that's not fact.
  323. [16:59:00] <trovster> Tails is v0.3 AFAIK, so it's pretty buggy.
  324. [17:03:51] <DavidMead> trovster: i've found "tails export 0.2.5" which you can export to a .vcf file so i'll try that
  325. [17:04:40] <DavidMead> it's just a little frustrating - not sure if i've coded it wrong or the extension isn't working :-)
  326. [17:04:41] <trovster> Riiight, not sure whether that is more feature complete, compared to Tails v0.3. I know he added better support for include.
  327. [17:08:25] <DavidMead> trovster: i have tails v0.1.3 so i'm going to grab v0.3.3 now
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  350. [18:19:57] <jibot> gsnedders is a 14 year old idiot from Scotland and pretends to have a website at http://geoffers.uni.cc/
  351. [18:30:13] <mfbot> [[microformats-ja]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=microformats-ja&diff=0&oldid=8196 * IwaiMasaharu * (+188) the microformats principles - 北村曉さんの訳を基に翻訳
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  359. [18:39:34] <jibot> trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and helps with www.multipack.co.uk
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  378. [19:54:48] <abscond> Hi, has there been any discussion about using hcards in email signatures. If so, where would I find it, if not, maybe I can start?
  379. [19:57:56] <tantek> abscond, do you mean for HTML emails?
  380. [19:59:46] <abscond> yes, I'm not exactly hugely experienced in the e-mail styling world (seems more depressing that browsers), but thought hcard would be suitable for a signature, so was wondering if there was any resources. If not, I'll learn and write up my findings.
  381. [19:59:59] <Phae> Styling for emails is a bit hit and miss, tbh.
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