IRC Log for #microformats on 2006-08-21
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- [07:45:01] * Topic is 'Y! Local supports microformats! http://ylocalblog.com/blog/2006/06/21/we-now-support-microformats/ || add yourself to http://microformats.org/wiki/irc || http://www.digital-web.com/articles/microformats_primer/ | Channel is logged: http://microformats.org/wiki/mflogbot'
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- [07:50:03] <drewinthehead>
we seem to have lost mfbot
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termie: do you look after jibot?
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- [10:59:52] <drewinthehead>
.
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- [11:27:15] <trovster>
hmmm. deprecated class names on http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard-profile ...
- [11:30:28] * drewinthehead nods
- [11:31:10] <trovster>
Mentions home, work, pref, cell, fax etc...
- [11:31:15] <drewinthehead>
right
- [11:31:17] <drewinthehead>
as class names
- [11:31:25] <drewinthehead>
they're now values of type
- [11:31:45] <drewinthehead>
so the class name is type, and thus home, work, cell etc aren't hidden
- [11:31:56] <trovster>
Aha, OK
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- [12:51:50] <trovster>
Opinions. http://en.example.com & http://es.example.com or http://www.example.com/en/ & http://www.example.com/es/
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- [13:16:42] <qid>
trovster: there's also some sort of auto-language negotiation, I think, so you can do e.g. foo.html.en foo.html.es and apache will serve the correct one
- [13:17:38] <qid>
and someone recently suggested putting both languages side-by-side on the same page, although I think that was specifically focused on community-based websites
- [13:23:40] <trovster>
Second idea is not appropriate. First is interesting.
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- [13:36:42] <DanC>
I gather the wikipedia folks greatly regret taking the http://es.example.com approach, though I haven't seen a 1st hand report
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- [14:00:28] <Phae>
afternoon
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- [14:10:39] <drewinthehead>
afternoon :)
- [14:11:07] <briansuda>
hello
- [14:11:39] <Phae>
:)
- [14:13:02] <drewinthehead>
we've lost mfbot
- [14:13:38] <briansuda>
we lost jibot too
- [14:13:49] <briansuda>
mfbot is kingryan
- [14:14:07] <briansuda>
it will probably be another hour or two before he is around
- [14:14:44] <Phae>
jibot's been gone since yesterday
- [14:15:36] <drewinthehead>
i gets attached to the lil buggers.
- [14:15:46] <briansuda>
i think we need termie to get jibot back
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- [14:16:08] <Phae>
Poor mfbot.
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- [14:21:34] <Phae>
hm.
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- [15:07:25] <Phae>
Dave is having problems signing up to the uF wiki;
- [15:07:26] <Phae>
Just gives me invalid username every time it try to sign up, of course
- [15:07:40] <Phae>
it doesn't tell me how it's invalid...
- [15:08:19] <trovster>
CamelCaseLameNess
- [15:08:38] <pnhChris>
yup
- [15:09:01] <Phae>
m'k
- [15:09:20] <qid>
yeah, shouldn't the uf wiki names be lower-case-with-dashes? heh
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- [15:13:39] <drewinthehead>
DaringDaveTheDestroyer
- [15:13:49] <drewinthehead>
DashingDaveTheDivine
- [15:14:07] <drewinthehead>
etc.
- [15:14:20] <drewinthehead>
i need caffeine.
- [15:14:51] <pnhChris>
and here i was thinking you should cut back
- [15:14:57] <Phae>
I just had to switch to decaf.
- [15:15:01] <Phae>
I had too much this morning :/
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- [15:24:07] <Phae>
He's managed it now.
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- [15:33:53] <drewinthehead>
did he use either of my suggestions? ;)
- [15:35:01] <Phae>
I don't know. If he didn't - more fool him.
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- [17:20:35] <briansuda>
kingryan, we are missing mfbot can you re-invite him?
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- [19:45:33] <drewinthehead>
greetings
- [19:49:36] <briansuda>
hello
- [19:52:18] <Phae>
hello!
- [19:55:46] <drewinthehead>
hello hello
- [19:55:51] <drewinthehead>
i see mfbot is back :)
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- [20:01:29] <kingryan>
yeah mfbot needed a break
- [20:01:51] <Phae>
aw
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- [20:24:56] <kingryan>
yeah, Phae, mfbot has been working for awhile
- [20:25:19] <Phae>
nice holiday location?
- [20:27:23] <kingryan>
just a long weekend on the beach
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- [20:45:57] <mfbot>
[[hcard]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard&diff=0&oldid=8232 * Florian * (+141) New Examples -
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- [20:50:33] <mfbot>
[[hcard]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard&diff=0&oldid=8233 * Florian * (+0) New Examples -
- [20:51:07] <Phae>
the hCard's in the wild list is starting to get really long
- [20:54:14] <mfbot>
[[hcard]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard&diff=0&oldid=8234 * Florian * (+0) New Examples -
- [20:55:01] <kingryan>
yeah, Phae, we need to refactor that out into a seperate page
- [20:55:25] * Phae nods.
- [20:56:38] <kingryan>
http://microformats.org/wiki/to-do#reorganizing_Examples_in_the_Wild_sections
- [20:57:29] <kingryan>
I know I've talked to tantek about this before, but didn't end up doing it
- [20:57:38] <kingryan>
now, I don't remember why not
- [20:57:53] <Phae>
heh
- [20:58:13] <Phae>
They're always going to get too long eventually, no matter what, so you might want to think of a suitable list length cap
- [20:58:19] <Phae>
can always do new lists for new versions
- [21:00:17] <kingryan>
true
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- [21:08:46] <drewinthehead>
perhaps if we had categories for in-the-wild, that would help
- [21:09:28] <drewinthehead>
separate the blogs from the big corporates from the useful services etc
- [21:09:53] <Phae>
aye, that'd be good
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- [21:15:40] <briansuda>
all the results from kitchen.technorati.com are "in the wild"
- [21:15:59] <briansuda>
if they could somehow 'dump' their database of mf content, we would have a pretty definitive list
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- [21:17:57] <drewinthehead>
what do you think in the wild gets used for?
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- [21:18:14] <drewinthehead>
personally, i use it for testcases
- [21:21:24] <sreynen>
i also use it for test cases
- [21:22:11] <sreynen>
and in doing so have discovered that a substantial portion of those links no longer contain the microformats
- [21:22:36] <sreynen>
so pruning those would be a good way to shorten the list
- [21:22:41] <drewinthehead>
rm 'em :)
- [21:25:17] <kingryan>
feel free to rm any that are µfless
- [21:25:45] <briansuda>
it looks like you can pass the quoted URL directly into kitchen (http://kitchen.technorati.com/contact/search/"http://suda.co.uk/contact/"). the problem, is that if nothing appears, then that doesn't mean there are no microformats, just that they are not listed.... but it might short list the ones you need to check?
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- [21:28:11] <drewinthehead>
i could knock together a checker ontop of hkit
- [21:28:17] <drewinthehead>
for hcard, at least
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- [21:37:35] <drewinthehead>
i need to get myself sorted doing bus hacks... code that can be hacked together within my 1.5 hours of very wobbly commute.
- [21:38:32] <epeus>
briansuda: we do only index a subset of known microformats though
- [21:39:07] <briansuda>
right, but is we are checking hCards in the wild, then might as well check it against the kicthen
- [21:39:38] <epeus>
yes, that will work
- [21:40:37] <briansuda>
pingerati.net/ doesn't seem to be displaying any updates
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- [21:41:22] <KevinMarks>
i still need to fix that
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- [21:45:27] <drewinthehead>
woah ... an ant build of a jboss app that takes 70secs on my 1.25Ghz PowerBook just completed in 20secs on my Y! MacBook Pro.
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- [21:57:07] <tantek>
drew, see that URL kingryan posted for a straw taxonomy for sections in a hCard examples in the wild page, and feel free to suggest improvements
- [21:57:15] <tantek>
for your convenience: http://microformats.org/wiki/to-do#reorganizing_Examples_in_the_Wild_sections
- [22:03:17] <mfbot>
[[hcard]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard&diff=0&oldid=8235 * Paul BHJ * (+334) Examples in the wild -
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- [22:13:04] <tantek>
btw, please do not delete missing/broken/old example
- [22:13:22] <tantek>
simply move them to the Examples with some problems sections
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[[hcard]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard&diff=0&oldid=8236 * Paul BHJ * (+1011) data:url with SVG
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