IRC Log for #microformats on 2006-09-15

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  13. [02:09:40] <tantek> greetings any brits here?
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  15. [02:09:52] <tantek> anyone know anything about a "pubstandards" meetup ?
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  33. [05:03:47] <Frederic> morning
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  50. [07:25:06] <Whiskey_M> 'lo
  51. [07:29:47] <keithalexander> morning
  52. [07:30:27] <Whiskey_M> how goes? here just waking up with a tea
  53. [07:31:04] <keithalexander> good idea
  54. [07:31:13] <Frederic> tea++
  55. [07:32:12] <keithalexander> goes ok, just shooting the breeze with some chap in another channel who thinks microformats is evil and needs to be stopped
  56. [07:32:56] <KevinMarks> ooh, good enemies are fun
  57. [07:32:58] <Whiskey_M> does he have any reason or is he just change-phobic
  58. [07:33:59] <keithalexander> it's an unusual one actually
  59. [07:34:07] <keithalexander> he definitely wants change
  60. [07:34:15] <keithalexander> he wants a lot of things
  61. [07:34:18] <Whiskey_M> then what is his problem?
  62. [07:34:57] <keithalexander> he sees mf as 'neverending patching'
  63. [07:35:37] <KevinMarks> as opposed to what?
  64. [07:36:03] <keithalexander> and html should allow the insertion of arbitrary datastructures (he might mean RDF, not completely sure), and that everyone should use wysiwygs
  65. [07:36:12] <Whiskey_M> ahhh, he wants to throw away however many billion pages of HTML etc. for something more structured
  66. [07:36:46] <keithalexander> not sure
  67. [07:37:58] <keithalexander> his big thing seems to be that there should be a wysiwyg with perfect code generation and everyone should use that
  68. [07:38:47] <Whiskey_M> well that isn't going to happen anytime soon
  69. [07:38:52] <keithalexander> I believe he was mixing it up with the #html posse for having "Leave your wysiwygs at the door" in their title
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  71. [07:38:56] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  73. [07:40:18] <keithalexander> I think he is also asking the w3c why they don't produce a rendering engine that all browsers should use
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  76. [08:02:06] <jibot> drewinthehead is the author of hKit and a developer for Yahoo! Europe
  77. [08:02:38] <Whiskey_M> morning drew :)
  78. [08:02:41] <drewinthehead> mornin'
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  80. [08:03:02] <jibot> trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and helps with www.multipack.co.uk
  81. [08:03:13] <Whiskey_M> and morning trovster :)
  82. [08:03:19] <trovster> 'lo
  83. [08:03:25] <drewinthehead> mornin' mr trov.
  84. [08:03:41] <drewinthehead> the gang's all here, let's get on with the show.
  85. [08:04:50] <Whiskey_M> It's time to play the music
  86. [08:04:50] <Whiskey_M> It's time to light the lights
  87. [08:04:50] <Whiskey_M> It's time to meet the Muppets on the Muppet Show tonight
  88. [08:05:00] <Whiskey_M> sorry wrong show ;)
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  90. [08:13:36] <jibot> gsnedders is a 14 year old idiot from Scotland and pretends to have a website at http://geoffers.uni.cc/
  91. [08:16:12] * drewinthehead has coffee and toast .. all is well
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  93. [08:28:23] <drewinthehead> did you guys see i did some updates to rel-lint last night? i think it's shaping up quite nicely
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  95. [08:37:39] <jibot> McNulty is Ciaran McNulty (http://ciaranmcnulty.com)
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  110. [11:34:11] <jibot> briansuda is brian suda of http://suda.co.uk/ and http://claimid.com/briansuda in his freetime he works on the X2V microformats parser (-0600 CST)
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  112. [11:41:30] * drewinthehead just updated rel-lint again
  113. [11:41:56] <drewinthehead> clicking a link in the report now scrolls to and highlights the link in question
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  115. [11:48:07] <trovster> lint?
  116. [11:50:35] <briansuda> does anyone have a LinkedIn account? there was a message to the discuss-list about some URL problems, and i wanted to check to see if the error is in my code/
  117. [11:53:05] <briansuda> very nice drewinthehead, but most of the links are underneath the pop-up box
  118. [11:53:15] <briansuda> what about adding 70% opacity or something to it?
  119. [11:53:30] <drewinthehead> that's a good idea .. i was wondering how to tackle that
  120. [11:53:44] <drewinthehead> i thought about making the box draggable .. but that'd add a lot of weight
  121. [11:54:38] <briansuda> or make a minumize button next to the close
  122. [11:54:49] <briansuda> then it will do the old OS9 "windo shade
  123. [11:54:52] <drewinthehead> trovster: a lint tool can be thought of like a non-authoritative validator. it flags things it thinks might be wrong
  124. [11:54:55] <briansuda> window shade effect"
  125. [11:54:59] <drewinthehead> ah, could do that too
  126. [11:55:23] <drewinthehead> or you can close it and re-open
  127. [11:58:05] <drewinthehead> trovster: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lint_programming_tool
  128. [11:58:27] <drewinthehead> the thing we're talking about is here: http://tools.microformatic.com/rel-lint/rel-lint.html
  129. [11:59:27] <trovster> Suspicious value:
  130. [11:59:27] <trovster> home
  131. [11:59:33] <drewinthehead> i have a linkedin account, briansuda
  132. [12:00:01] <drewinthehead> yeah, it's only checking XFN at the moment trovster. i need to add common known values like home, bookmark, alternative etc
  133. [12:00:22] <briansuda> drewinthehead, can you look into this issue:http://microformats.org/discuss/mail/microformats-discuss/2006-September/005513.html
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  135. [12:00:28] <drewinthehead> (or is it alternate? hmm)
  136. [12:00:56] <trovster> http://www.sussexsportmc.co.uk/ I've added hatom to every page, what do people think?
  137. [12:04:30] <drewinthehead> i don't see that problem, briansuda. the url values are just regular root-relative paths
  138. [12:04:50] <briansuda> hm.. ok maybe he is using Tails Export or something?
  139. [12:05:05] <briansuda> just wanted to check to make sure it wasn't a bug in X2V :)
  140. [12:05:07] <briansuda> thanks
  141. [12:05:37] <drewinthehead> maybe .. Tails isn't bulletproof as we've often seen
  142. [12:05:38] * briansuda should sign-up for linkedIn, but has no desire
  143. [12:05:44] <drewinthehead> no, don't do it :)
  144. [12:06:09] <briansuda> i'm suprised the Tails author isn't around more (if he's here he's never spoken-up)
  145. [12:06:14] <briansuda> he gets more press than X2V!
  146. [12:06:18] <drewinthehead> cool trovster. i like the subscribability of pages - although views often differ wildly ;)
  147. [12:06:49] <drewinthehead> i like Tails .. it's great for quick identification
  148. [12:06:50] <trovster> :)
  149. [12:07:54] <trovster> I like Tails, too.
  150. [12:08:13] <briansuda> i like Tails too, but (as discussion on the mailing list continues) when you directly participate in the wiki and hg, you get a much better product
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  152. [12:31:16] <jibot> csarven is Sarven Capadisli and can be found online at http://www.csarven.ca
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  154. [13:00:29] <jibot> pnhChris is Chris Casciano, blogs at http://placenamehere.com/ , and a member of the Web Standards Project.
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  159. [13:27:08] <briansuda> hm... Yale is using hCalendar for the Sociology Colloquium (http://www.yale.edu/sociology/colloquia/2006/fall/)
  160. [13:54:06] <briansuda> drewinthehead, are you around? i've got another javascript favlet idea for you
  161. [13:54:47] <briansuda> flickr maps is an easily hackable URL (http://flickr.com/map/?&fLat=55.934463&fLon=-3.20526&zl=2) if you use the DOM to extract the lat/lon you can plug them into the location.href and send people to that point with related pics
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  163. [13:56:56] <pnhChris> theres also a "link this" link in the corner
  164. [13:57:30] <pnhChris> which builds a url with the right coords, filters, etc
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  166. [14:03:00] <briansuda> right, but do that from any page in the internet
  167. [14:03:31] <briansuda> so if upcoming.org used geo coordinate for their venues, you could click a little favlet and extract the lat/lon and show you nearby pics
  168. [14:04:31] <drewinthehead> sounds cool guys ... i'm just fighting some fires .. back in a while.
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  170. [14:07:34] <jibot> sreynen is Scott Reynen, who makes things at makedatamakesense.com
  171. [14:10:53] <pnhChris> ah
  172. [14:10:59] <pnhChris> you mean going the other way
  173. [14:11:02] <pnhChris> gotcha
  174. [14:11:29] <briansuda> it might be interesting
  175. [14:11:42] <briansuda> if you are attending an event, you might have some time before/after to see the sights
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  189. [14:55:49] <jibot> DanC_lap is DanC on his laptop.
  190. [14:56:30] <DanC_lap> I wonder how many other people are using hCalendar in their daily work. I found it pretty useful this week. http://www.w3.org/2006/09dc-aus/aus-aa
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  193. [14:57:57] <DanC_lap> a little quiet here. I guess it's still early in California. What timezone do you mostly work from these days, I wonder, briansuda ?
  194. [15:02:56] <tantek> good morning DanC
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  196. [15:11:00] <drewinthehead> greetings
  197. [15:15:03] <tantek> greetings drew
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  199. [15:19:08] <drewinthehead> how was the presentation, tantek?
  200. [15:19:15] <drewinthehead> all good?
  201. [15:20:19] <tantek> I think it went fine, certainly logistically their MacBook Pro worked fine, Safari worked fine, the wireless USB clicker thingie worked fine (which meant I didn't have to simply be a podium-jocky for 45 minutes).
  202. [15:20:35] <tantek> The demos all ran and worked
  203. [15:21:15] <drewinthehead> excellent.
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  205. [15:32:22] <sreynen> drewinthehead, i very much enjoyed the phrase "autoposterior ascension"
  206. [15:32:44] <drewinthehead> thank you, i crafted it especially. :)
  207. [15:33:57] * DanC_lap wonders where tantek presented; checks the web...
  208. [15:34:01] <DanC_lap> I just did a reprise of my XML 2005 hCalendar/GRDDL/semweb talk to a U.T. undergrad computer science course.
  209. [15:34:40] <drewinthehead> DanC_lap: http://upcoming.org/event/89531/
  210. [15:34:58] <tantek> http://microformats.org/wiki/events/2006-09-13-future-of-web-apps-microformats
  211. [15:35:37] <tantek> drew, do you know anything about a "pubstandards
  212. [15:35:41] <tantek> " meetup in the UK?
  213. [15:36:06] <DanC_lap> hmm... "URLs"... I'm not fond of that style.
  214. [15:36:15] <DanC_lap> i'd rather "see also"
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  216. [15:43:08] <drewinthehead> yes, it's a social for people who make websites, tantek
  217. [15:43:22] <drewinthehead> just a bunch of geeks in a pub
  218. [15:43:43] <Whiskey_M> pub, sounds like heaven ;)
  219. [15:44:17] <drewinthehead> there was one last night - but i stayed home and hacked on my XFN lint tool. i think that makes me too geeky for geeks or something.
  220. [15:44:40] <drewinthehead> (actually i was just too tired to socialise)
  221. [15:44:44] <tantek> heh
  222. [15:44:52] <tantek> drew, do you know anything of, ahem, custom sticker making related to last night's pubstandards meetup?
  223. [15:45:02] * tantek is feeling a bit iconified.
  224. [15:45:23] <drewinthehead> ah, hmm. stickers usually occur.
  225. [15:45:44] <drewinthehead> i've not seen any from last night though ...
  226. [15:54:02] <tantek> they're definitely posted to flickr ;)
  227. [15:57:31] <_fil_> what were you having in that bar/nightclub?? :)
  228. [15:57:57] * _fil_ looking for the stickers
  229. [15:59:32] <DanC_lap> tantek's presentation says linkedin's doing hResume. that's news to me. anybody got a pointer to more info about that?
  230. [16:00:40] * DanC_lap has a XOXO blog item to write...
  231. [16:02:00] <DanC_lap> I don't see linkedin under http://microformats.org/wiki/hresume#Implementations ; perhaps that's a different sense of "implement"
  232. [16:02:58] <DanC_lap> linkedin and hresume would make a great "I want my data back" story
  233. [16:04:07] * DanC_lap finds it via technorati search
  234. [16:04:44] <tantek> DanC, they announced that they are working on it in a public blog comment
  235. [16:04:53] <DanC_lap> yes, http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2006/09/09/linkedin-refreshes/#comment-16885
  236. [16:04:55] <tantek> so they are implementing, but not yet an implementation
  237. [16:04:58] <tantek> right
  238. [16:05:18] <tantek> and yes it does make a great story of that sort
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  240. [16:14:49] * drewinthehead hadn't seen rel="foaf-workplaceHomepage" before
  241. [16:14:56] <drewinthehead> that's kinda clumsy
  242. [16:17:08] <drewinthehead> i hadn't realised that FOAF had an embedded syntax at all ... you live and learn :)
  243. [16:20:35] * drewinthehead has found XFN typos on eric's site, no XFN on matt's site, and tantek gets a gold star for correct usage.
  244. [16:20:58] <tantek> :D
  245. [16:22:01] * drewinthehead is claiming the errors on his own site a deliberate... or at least deliberately not fixed yet ;)
  246. [16:22:55] <drewinthehead> results show 98.56% of people can't spell 'acquaintance'
  247. [16:23:23] <drewinthehead> (statistics accurate at time of being made up)
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  250. [16:42:35] <tantek> DanC, also here: http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=81 - evidence of LinkedIn supporting hCard *now*
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  277. [18:00:57] <yakk> flamey flame
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  286. [18:20:01] <jibot> pnhChris is Chris Casciano, blogs at http://placenamehere.com/ , and a member of the Web Standards Project.
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  292. [18:27:40] <jibot> WebMaven is Michael Bernstein & in Las Vegas, Nevada & wrote the 'Zope Bible': http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0764548573/fiawol/ref=nosim & his homepage is at http://www.michaelbernstein.com/ & his LinkedIn profile is https://www.linkedin.com/profile?key=3763
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  295. [19:12:06] <jibot> trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and helps with www.multipack.co.uk
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  297. [19:21:14] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
  298. [19:21:38] * ChanServ sets mode +o tantek
  299. [19:23:43] <Frederic> Hi tantek
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  302. [19:39:54] <mfbot> [[Help:Contents]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Help:Contents&diff=0&oldid=8527 * Ccccccaccc * (+4523)
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  304. [19:56:54] <jibot> pnhChris is Chris Casciano, blogs at http://placenamehere.com/ , and a member of the Web Standards Project.
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  307. [20:47:58] <jibot> remi is Remi Prevost, a web developper (yeah, that's how we spell "developer" in french) from Quebec and blogs about web stuff at <http://remiprevost.com/>
  308. [20:48:28] <gsnedders> another quiet day
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  310. [20:51:27] <mfbot> [[Help:Contents]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Help:Contents&diff=0&oldid=8528 * Tantek * (-4523) Reverted edit of Ccccccaccc, changed back to last version by Brian
  311. [20:51:53] <mfbot> [[Special:Log/block]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Special:Log/block&diff=0&oldid=0 * Tantek * (+0) blocked "User:Ccccccaccc" with an expiry time of infinite: spam
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  313. [20:57:12] <Frederic> 2 more slides and tomorrow's speech is done
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  316. [21:14:56] <jibot> drewinthehead is the author of hKit and a developer for Yahoo! Europe
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  330. [23:02:00] * bewest just had lunch with Doug Engelbart
  331. [23:02:16] <bewest> he embodied microformat principles over 30 years ago :-)
  332. [23:05:25] <bewest> in terms of reuse, making things simple, 80/20, empowering users (for us it's publishers), and most importantly convergence and coevolution... advancements in facility and capability should follow what people are actually doing
  333. [23:06:17] <KevinMarks> though he was very anti- ease of use and integration with existing work practices
  334. [23:06:56] <KevinMarks> he argued people are teachable and can learn new complex actions that help them work better
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  336. [23:09:00] <bewest> hey hober
  337. [23:13:15] <bewest> hober: I'm curious about the evdb web api
  338. [23:13:30] <bewest> hober: how did you guys decide what the URI's should be and how they should be structured?
  339. [23:13:58] <bewest> hober: also I was wondering what tools you used to create the web api
  340. [23:14:08] <bewest> hober: and how you arrived at the xml format to use
  341. [23:16:23] <bewest> same questions go to technorati, actually
  342. [23:17:54] <hober> hi
  343. [23:17:56] <hober> hmm
  344. [23:17:59] <hober> lots of questions :)
  345. [23:18:04] <KevinMarks> the uris were a lot of internal discussion
  346. [23:18:18] <KevinMarks> cal adn tom were good about this recently
  347. [23:18:25] <hober> s/internal discussion/blowout argument/ in our case :/
  348. [23:19:23] <bewest> yes. I'm architecting a new service; we are having arguments
  349. [23:19:25] <bewest> hehe
  350. [23:19:43] <bewest> and it's something I've been thinking about in general
  351. [23:20:09] <bewest> if you're going to assign every piece of data a URI, what should the canonical representation be, and how should it be addressed
  352. [23:20:37] <bewest> there is currently a thread on the mailing list about this
  353. [23:20:39] <hober> You might get some interesting responses from several Eventful people if you post that question to our API mailing list
  354. [23:20:40] <bewest> started by Jim
  355. [23:20:49] <bewest> oh that's a good idea
  356. [23:21:04] <hober> http://api.evdb.com/#api-developers
  357. [23:22:57] <bewest> I of course have my own ideas http://bewest.wordpress.com/2006/09/03/uri-design-web-api/
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  359. [23:45:56] * bewest wishes there was an evdb type of service for bugs
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