IRC Log for #microformats on 2006-09-14
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[[icons]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=icons&diff=0&oldid=8504 * Dmitry Baranovskiy * (+383)
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[[icons]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=icons&diff=0&oldid=8505 * Dmitry Baranovskiy * (+98)
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- [05:18:35] <cgriego>
so whatever happened to using the profile attribute? the only XMDP profile I've ever seen referenced is the XFN one.
- [05:19:04] <cgriego>
tantek.com and microformats.org don't even do that.
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- [06:46:38] <tantek>
cgriego, tantek.com fixed to use XFN profile - it's been in my archives for a while, home page lacking it was an oversight. Thanks for the heads up.
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- [06:48:31] <tantek>
and microformats.org is now updated as well to use the XFN profile at least. And again, thanks for the heads up.
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- [07:02:50] <Frederic>
morning
- [07:03:30] <Frederic>
tantek: do you have s5 / powerpoint / keynote slides of a former talk you made to introduce microformats ?
- [07:03:56] <Frederic>
I'm working on mine and wanted to have a look at what has previously been done
- [07:04:01] <tantek>
yes, most of them are linked from http://microformats.org/wiki/presentations
- [07:04:13] <tantek>
speaking of which
- [07:04:26] <Frederic>
I'll add mine on sunday then
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- [07:17:32] <Frederic>
tantek: http://tantek.com/presentations/2005/06/what-are-microformats/ that one is cool for a start. My audience will go from entrepreneurs to web designers, and starting with the history is a good idea. I'll start from this point.
- [07:36:44] <bunnywabbit_>
KevinMarks, tantek: is this supposed to work? http://kitchen.technorati.com/event/search/
- [07:39:21] <Frederic>
hi bunnywabbit_
- [07:39:30] <bunnywabbit_>
hi Frederic :-)
- [07:39:56] <bunnywabbit_>
podcasting microformats in french right now
- [07:41:21] <Frederic>
bunnywabbit_: I'll try to record my speech too, if I find a microphone and learn how to use garageband
- [07:41:48] <bunnywabbit_>
that would be cool
- [07:41:54] <bunnywabbit_>
this is just a three-minute thing
- [07:42:01] <bunnywabbit_>
where are you doing it?
- [07:42:05] <bunnywabbit_>
garageband isn't too hard
- [07:42:12] <bunnywabbit_>
just do "new project -- podcast"
- [07:42:17] <Frederic>
At barcamp Paris 4
- [07:42:19] <bunnywabbit_>
and record on the track "male voice"
- [07:42:21] <bunnywabbit_>
oooh neat.
- [07:42:34] <bunnywabbit_>
or better, get somebody to film you if it isn't too long!
- [07:43:35] <Frederic>
Third time I talk about microformats there, but this one will be focused on practical use more than theory
- [07:43:57] <bunnywabbit_>
nice
- [07:44:12] <bunnywabbit_>
I've a good mind to start using hcalendar on http://cafecafe.ch
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- [08:36:47] <bunnywabbit_>
Frederic: one css thing I don't get -- if I do class="vevent thingy" and class="vcard thingy"
- [08:36:58] <bunnywabbit_>
and then I declare stuff in my css for "thingy"
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- [08:37:13] <bunnywabbit_>
shouldn't the formatting for "thingy" be applied to my vevent and vcard?
- [08:37:30] <trovster>
No, it should be applied to everything with clasname 'thingy'
- [08:39:40] <davecardwell>
so in this case, yes - both of those
- [08:40:15] <davecardwell>
are you sure it isn't being overriden somewhere else
- [08:40:23] <davecardwell>
by another more specific rule I mean
- [08:41:52] <bunnywabbit_>
er.... is this supposed to work? http://kitchen.technorati.com/event/
- [08:42:16] <bunnywabbit_>
trovster: well if I say class="vevent thingy" my vevent has the class thingy too, right?
- [08:42:39] <bunnywabbit_>
so logically it should apply css rules defined for vevent AND those defined for thingy -- correct?
- [08:42:40] <trovster>
Yes, and it will have the styled applied by .thingy {}
- [08:42:45] <bunnywabbit_>
ok
- [08:42:48] <bunnywabbit_>
because that wasn't happening
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- [08:44:15] <bunnywabbit_>
I normally have an hcalendar event in http://climbtothestars.org but http://kitchen.technorati.com/event/ doesn't seem to be able to pick it up -- I end up on the wikipedia event page
- [08:46:13] <davecardwell>
same here, looks like something is misconfigured
- [08:46:43] <davecardwell>
I end up at event1.com
- [08:47:35] <bunnywabbit_>
ah, ok, worked this time (css thingy)
- [08:47:45] <bunnywabbit_>
davecardwell: glad it doesn't seem to be my problem
- [08:47:58] <bunnywabbit_>
do you use tails?
- [08:48:03] <davecardwell>
submitting to the form returns a request for http://event/http://microformats.org
- [08:48:11] <davecardwell>
replacing microformats.org with whatever url you entered
- [08:48:12] <bunnywabbit_>
I've had trouble importing a h/vcard through tails
- [08:48:13] <davecardwell>
I'll let them know
- [08:48:15] <bunnywabbit_>
mixed things up
- [08:49:31] <bunnywabbit_>
hcard to vcard converter is messed up too
- [08:49:41] <davecardwell>
tails seems to be picking up my hcards fine
- [08:49:51] <davecardwell>
do you have a url that tails doesn't work with?
- [08:51:23] <bunnywabbit_>
it was this one
- [08:51:25] <bunnywabbit_>
http://climbtothestars.org/play/sb-hcard.html
- [08:51:43] <bunnywabbit_>
I had my yahoo IM on there at some point and it appended it to the URL
- [08:51:47] <bunnywabbit_>
but not sure where the problem is
- [08:51:54] <bunnywabbit_>
could be Address Book import :-)
- [08:51:59] <Frederic>
bunnywabbit_: works for me
- [08:52:06] <davecardwell>
seems to work fine
- [08:52:17] <bunnywabbit_>
really?
- [08:52:17] <bunnywabbit_>
ok
- [08:52:31] <bunnywabbit_>
what about the event and vcard on http://climbtothestars.org ?
- [08:52:58] <bunnywabbit_>
it's not importing the photo into my Address Book in any case
- [08:53:03] <bunnywabbit_>
is it for you?
- [08:53:07] <davecardwell>
tails finds 7 blog posts, 8 contacts and 1 event
- [08:53:18] <Frederic>
same here
- [08:53:44] <bunnywabbit_>
ok
- [08:53:52] <bunnywabbit_>
now if you import the contact which has a photograph
- [08:53:55] <bunnywabbit_>
into your address book
- [08:54:00] <davecardwell>
I don't have the exporter
- [08:54:01] <bunnywabbit_>
does it keep the photograph?
- [08:54:04] <bunnywabbit_>
ah ok
- [08:54:51] <davecardwell>
http://suda.co.uk/projects/X2V/ seems to work
- [08:55:05] <Frederic>
bunnywabbit_: url of the exporter please ?
- [08:55:39] <bunnywabbit_>
I still don't get the photo
- [08:55:46] <bunnywabbit_>
the tails exporter is on the tails download page
- [08:55:49] <bunnywabbit_>
with the rest of the scripts
- [08:55:56] <davecardwell>
my address book doesn't include the photo, so I can't test that - sorry
- [08:55:58] <bunnywabbit_>
or you can use the one davecardwell pointed to
- [08:56:02] <bunnywabbit_>
ah...... ok
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- [09:09:51] <drewinthehead>
looks good from here, bunnywabbit_ http://tools.microformatic.com/query/plain/hkit/http://climbtothestars.org/play/sb-hcard.html
- [09:10:29] <bunnywabbit_>
thanks :-)
- [09:20:12] <mfbot>
[[hcalendar]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar&diff=0&oldid=8506 * StephanieBooth * (+198) Examples in the wild -
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- [10:23:55] <Whiskey_M>
'lo
- [10:28:50] <drewinthehead>
mornin' Whiskey_M
- [10:28:58] <Whiskey_M>
how goes Drew?
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- [10:29:37] <Whiskey_M>
[_P - here you go have a cup
- [10:30:19] <drewinthehead>
ta muchly
- [10:32:44] <Whiskey_M>
maybe I should feed some to my computer so it stops falling asleep ;-)
- [10:35:00] <Frederic>
What do you people us to display s5 pres fullscreen ?
- [10:35:22] <trovster>
F11
- [10:36:00] <Frederic>
Not on a mac
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- [10:49:23] <drewinthehead>
i just turn off any browser features i don't want
- [10:49:30] <drewinthehead>
doesn't opera do fullscreen?
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[[User talk:ChristopheDucamp]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User_talk:ChristopheDucamp&diff=0&oldid=8507 * ChristopheDucamp * (-334) delete spam
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[[hatom-fr]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hatom-fr&diff=0&oldid=8508 * ChristopheDucamp * (+115) Implémentations - ajout hAtom Creator par BenWest
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[[Special:Log/block]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Special:Log/block&diff=0&oldid=0 * Tantek * (+0) blocked "User:1158177382" with an expiry time of infinite: spam
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- [11:59:23] <davecardwell>
bunnywabbit_: apparently, http://feeds.technorati.com/events/ is the one to use
- [11:59:27] <davecardwell>
not kitchen.
- [11:59:39] <bunnywabbit_>
ah,nice
- [11:59:41] <bunnywabbit_>
thanks
- [11:59:47] <davecardwell>
thank tantek :p
- [11:59:59] <bunnywabbit_>
feeds redirects to technorati
- [12:00:34] <davecardwell>
seems to work either way
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- [12:01:02] <tantek>
feeds.technorati.com is for events and contacts feed conversions
- [12:01:16] <tantek>
kitchen.technorati.com is just for microformat *searches*
- [12:01:31] <bunnywabbit_>
no importable cards are found
- [12:01:39] <bunnywabbit_>
for http://climbtothestars.org :-(
- [12:02:25] <bunnywabbit_>
how do you find the converters from http://feeds.technorati.com -- are they linked anywhere?
- [12:02:50] <bunnywabbit_>
shouldn't the kitchen subdomain links to the converters point to the right ones then?
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- [12:07:08] <tantek>
bunnywabbit_, what kitchen subdomain links? URL?
- [12:07:31] <bunnywabbit_>
oh wait
- [12:07:32] <bunnywabbit_>
http://kitchen.technorati.com/
- [12:07:36] <bunnywabbit_>
I'm totally confused
- [12:07:37] <bunnywabbit_>
earlier on
- [12:07:44] <bunnywabbit_>
I clicked the links on that page to the converter
- [12:07:51] <bunnywabbit_>
and the converter didnt work.
- [12:07:56] <bunnywabbit_>
or so I recall
- [12:08:32] <bunnywabbit_>
maybe I got there some other way
- [12:08:36] <bunnywabbit_>
let me try and figure it out
- [12:09:22] <bunnywabbit_>
aha! found it, tantek
- [12:09:26] <bunnywabbit_>
I was here: http://kitchen.technorati.com/event/search
- [12:09:35] <bunnywabbit_>
and remembered the url for the converter ended in "event"
- [12:09:40] <bunnywabbit_>
(didn't pay attention to subdomains)
- [12:09:45] <bunnywabbit_>
so I just deleted "search"
- [12:09:53] <tantek>
were you hacking URLs by hand? ;)
- [12:10:01] <bunnywabbit_>
which made me land on http://kitchen.technorati.com/event/ which looked very much like a converter
- [12:10:04] <bunnywabbit_>
well, yeah!
- [12:10:05] <bunnywabbit_>
<-- geekette
- [12:10:17] <tantek>
that doesn't *always* work you know :)
- [12:10:22] <bunnywabbit_>
I don't click on links if I can help it :-)
- [12:10:38] <bunnywabbit_>
much easier to "apple-L + delete a few times + enter" then move the mouse around
- [12:10:39] <tantek>
i've submitted the bug and we should hopefully have that case fixed to properly redirect some time today
- [12:10:48] <bunnywabbit_>
cool :-)
- [12:10:55] <bunnywabbit_>
I like unearthing bugs
- [12:10:56] <tantek>
but for now you'll have to click links :)
- [12:11:04] <bunnywabbit_>
noted, boss
- [12:11:18] <Frederic>
tantek: I'll reuse your http://tantek.com/presentations/2005/06/what-are-microformats/ history part, if you don't mind (with proper credits)
- [12:11:49] <bunnywabbit_>
remains the fact that the converters on technorati don't seem to like my hCard and hCal
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- [12:15:34] <tantek>
bunnywabbit, try running them through the converters at sudo.co.uk which have more debug / bug-reporting
- [12:16:16] <bunnywabbit_>
that worked
- [12:16:25] <bunnywabbit_>
just lost the photograph in the vcard, dunno why
- [12:17:29] <tantek>
Frederic, feel free to re-use any of my preso per cc-by-2.5. You may want to check more recent presos than 2005!
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- [12:24:33] <Frederic>
tantek: well, the history part is well done and will be relevant enough for my audience
- [12:27:25] <bunnywabbit_>
barcamp or blogcamp, Frederic ?
- [12:27:29] <bunnywabbit_>
how often are they in paris?
- [12:27:33] <bunnywabbit_>
should try to come once
- [12:28:25] <tantek>
I think I've made some tweaks/fixes to the history part since, perhaps further summarizing.
- [12:28:43] <tantek>
Anyway, compare the sections there and more recent iterations.
- [12:29:25] <Frederic>
OK
- [12:29:26] <tantek>
bunnywabbit_ you should! start lurking in #barcamp to begin with :)
- [12:29:40] <Frederic>
bunnywabbit_: mini barcamp, half a day
- [12:30:07] <bunnywabbit_>
well, there are plans for CH barcamps
- [12:30:26] <bunnywabbit_>
but I think the one with a date fixed is at the other end of the country
- [12:30:32] <bunnywabbit_>
in the german-speaking part
- [12:30:42] <bunnywabbit_>
but I saw stuff about "barcamp Léman" for the lake area
- [12:30:45] <tantek>
and you can click "subscribe..." on the BarCamp home page and watch which barcamps happen when in your calendar program :)
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- [12:30:55] <bunnywabbit_>
I just have so many ongoing things....
- [12:30:58] <McNulty>
afternoon
- [12:31:02] <bunnywabbit_>
I hope it cools down a bit in a few months
- [12:31:05] <tantek>
bunnywabbit, someone was just asking about CH barcamps in #barcamp
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- [12:31:13] <bunnywabbit_>
once I get my "freelance bloggy consultant" act together
- [12:31:37] <Frederic>
Freelance bloggy consultant ? Damn
- [12:35:14] <McNulty>
Tsk, why is the microformats london event the one weekend I'm away? ;-)
- [12:35:37] <mfbot>
[[presentations]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=presentations&diff=0&oldid=8509 * Tantek * (+294) add future of web apps preso
- [12:36:18] <mfbot>
[[events/2006-09-13-future-of-web-apps-microformats]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events/2006-09-13-future-of-web-apps-microformats&diff=0&oldid=8510 * Tantek * (+16) added link to new presentation
- [12:36:39] <mfbot>
[[presentations]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=presentations&diff=0&oldid=8511 * Tantek * (-16) tweaked location.
- [12:36:46] <Frederic>
McNulty: Murphy's upon you, fear his 1337 powers ! :)
- [12:37:11] <tantek>
McNulty there was both a BarCampLondon and the microformats picnic at d.construct
- [12:37:46] <McNulty>
I'll just have to keep my eyes open next time
- [12:38:01] <McNulty>
I only just noticed the microformats london thing and it's about 1km from my house
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- [12:41:13] <tantek>
McNutly, definitely subscribe to the events feed at barcamp.org to stay apprised.
- [12:41:36] <McNulty>
aha, thanks for the pointer
- [12:41:41] <McNulty>
I'll be less dim next time roung
- [12:41:43] <McNulty>
round
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'lo
- [14:43:50] <drewinthehead>
'lo Whiskey_M
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- [14:44:08] <drewinthehead>
ever get a sense of deja vu?
- [14:44:42] <Whiskey_M>
with my PC doing a passable impression of a yo-yo this week I'm getting it all the time
- [14:45:14] <drewinthehead>
clearly, you need a mac
- [14:45:36] <drewinthehead>
they yo-yo too, but they're pretty at the same time.
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- [14:45:40] <Whiskey_M>
as soon as they have visual studio for mac count me in
- [14:46:03] <Whiskey_M>
oh, and I get the budget to purchase one
- [14:46:22] <drewinthehead>
i've just been checking out that userCSS from hicks that adactio posted about
- [14:46:46] <Whiskey_M>
I missed the url?
- [14:46:46] <adactio>
How's it working for you, Drew?
- [14:47:00] <adactio>
http://www.hicksdesign.co.uk/journal/highlight-microformats-with-css
- [14:47:10] <drewinthehead>
it's not great for me so far
- [14:47:25] <drewinthehead>
it's just too intrusive ... busts up all sorts of layouts
- [14:47:34] <drewinthehead>
i love the idea
- [14:48:24] <Whiskey_M>
hmmm, rel="Alternate Stylesheet" ?
- [14:48:36] <adactio>
It's working on most implementations for me, but it messes up some of the nested stuff.
- [14:49:16] <trovster>
I was just about to suggest an userCSS FIREFOX extension, then it hit me! :)
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- [14:52:35] <drewinthehead>
one of the gotchas is that it mostly only works well on pages that are dark text on a light bg
- [14:52:57] <drewinthehead>
as soon as that's reversed, jon's light bg gets slipped in under the light text
- [14:53:52] <adactio>
Wanna drop him a line on the Britpack list to tell him to specify a foreground colour for the text?
- [14:54:10] <drewinthehead>
i'm not sure it's going to be that easy ...
- [14:54:17] <drewinthehead>
i'm having the same issue with rel-lint
- [14:54:31] <drewinthehead>
you pretty much need to override every CSS property
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Oh, what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to override style declarations.
- [14:55:20] <drewinthehead>
quite :)
- [14:55:24] <Whiskey_M>
lol
- [14:56:36] <drewinthehead>
i wonder if an iframe could be used as some kind of cascade safe haven
- [14:58:29] <drewinthehead>
i guess that's no good for pure css implementations, but it could work for mixed css/javascript solutions
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A britpack mailing list, oooh, exclusivity!
- [15:03:30] <drewinthehead>
oooh easier than trying to CC everyone on an email. ;)
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[[what-are-microformats-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=what-are-microformats-fr&diff=0&oldid=8515 * ChristopheDucamp * (+445)
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'l
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o
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hcalendar + wordpress = crazy delicious: http://blog.perfectspace.com/2006/09/14/brainstorm-wordpress-event-plugin/
- [17:43:16] <briansuda>
sreynen, are you around?
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[[icons-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=icons-fr&diff=0&oldid=8519 * ChristopheDucamp * (+54)
- [17:57:25] <nateritter>
Perhaps the font that's used should be on that page too?
- [17:57:42] <nateritter>
kind of a styleguide of sorts
- [17:58:21] <sreynen>
i'm around now, briansuda
- [17:58:48] <briansuda>
i think i have the KML working. i tried the link you sent yesterday and it doesn't seem to give me anything
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[[hcalendar-fr]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar-fr&diff=0&oldid=8520 * ChristopheDucamp * (+234) ajout Bloggy-Friday en français
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it appears my server is down
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[[presentations-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=presentations-fr&diff=0&oldid=8521 * ChristopheDucamp * (+293)
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[[events-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events-fr&diff=0&oldid=8522 * ChristopheDucamp * (+57)
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[[podcasts-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=podcasts-fr&diff=0&oldid=8524 * ChristopheDucamp * (+186)
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\ignore mfbot
- [18:10:14] <nateritter>
heh
- [18:11:25] <briansuda>
ok, sreynen, it looks like it is working now (http://maps.google.com/maps?q=http://suda.co.uk/projects/microformats/geo/get-geo.php%3Ftype%3Dkml%26uri%3Dhttp://microformat.makedatamakesense.com/auto_geo/%3Furl%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.iowamilitaryveteransband.com%252Fcontact%252F&ie=UTF8&z=11&om=1)
- [18:12:15] <sreynen>
that's great, thanks brian
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[[hcalendar-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar-fr&diff=0&oldid=8525 * ChristopheDucamp * (+76)
- [18:18:30] <sreynen>
briansuda, i'm looking at the KML spec now. if you dumped the entire hCard into a <description>, would that show up in the bubbles on google maps?
- [18:18:43] <briansuda>
correct
- [18:19:00] <briansuda>
i did think about that, but in some cases i put class="vcard" on my <body> element
- [18:19:32] <briansuda>
we can certainly add some text into the description... maybe <a>source</a> or something
- [18:19:38] <briansuda>
any thoughts are welcome
- [18:20:33] <sreynen>
that would work, but it would be really nice if you could see all the data
- [18:20:43] <sreynen>
what about replacing problematic tags with <span>?
- [18:21:35] <briansuda>
it is a possiblity, it does open that pandora's box of what if this is an event, or a photo from flickr...
- [18:22:08] <sreynen>
you mean then we lose the context?
- [18:22:33] <briansuda>
not so much context, but the simple two value MF blossoms into a monster!
- [18:22:45] <sreynen>
oh, i see
- [18:23:27] <briansuda>
i willing to explore some things.
- [18:23:41] <briansuda>
vevent has an explicit description, so that makes sense
- [18:23:49] <briansuda>
sometime is there is an ADR that would make sense
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- [18:24:14] <sreynen>
when is there an ADR that doesn't make sense?
- [18:24:16] <briansuda>
but you could have two ADRs one for work, one for home, and only one GEO, which is which
- [18:24:32] <sreynen>
oh...i didn't even think of that
- [18:24:47] <briansuda>
so you might have a bubble with incorrect info.
- [18:24:59] <briansuda>
it is certainly worth playing with
- [18:25:05] <sreynen>
my auto geo thing is currently only using the first adr
- [18:26:05] <sreynen>
maybe a link to source is the best option. there's a lot of possibilities i hadn't thought about
- [18:27:03] <briansuda>
yeah, i do like the idea of putting more stuff in the description, but that is all out-of-scope of GEO, so it is all "extra features"
- [18:27:51] <sreynen>
one problem with a source link is that the source gets lost in a proxy server like i'm doing
- [18:29:32] <briansuda>
in your case, yes. but that is enevitable
- [18:29:36] <sreynen>
yeah
- [18:30:07] <sreynen>
i think i'll eventually need to do my own KML output to take advantage of the hcard-specific context
- [18:30:21] <sreynen>
but for now, i'm happy to see the names on the map
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- [19:27:39] <drewinthehead>
greetings
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- [19:28:04] <briansuda>
hello drewinthehead
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- [19:35:15] <drewinthehead>
i've been hacking a bit further on my rel-lint tool
- [19:35:22] <drewinthehead>
added a 'close' icon ;)
- [19:35:37] <drewinthehead>
#1 feature request!
- [19:36:17] <briansuda>
:)
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- [19:37:02] <briansuda>
what is the URL for the bookmarlet?
- [19:37:13] <briansuda>
i have the old one, but i don't see a close
- [19:38:24] <drewinthehead>
just uploading it now .. i'll shout when it's there :)
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- [19:41:56] <drewinthehead>
should be there now, briansuda
- [19:42:05] <drewinthehead>
same link as before
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- [19:42:37] <drewinthehead>
http://tools.microformatic.com/rel-lint/rel-lint.html
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google cchap says their search resulys sue a microformat?
- [19:53:27] <KevinMarks>
except the classnames are gs-result etc
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[[User talk:ChristopheDucamp]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User_talk:ChristopheDucamp&diff=0&oldid=8526 * 1158263839 * (+334)
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- [20:26:13] <drewinthehead>
did the close button show up, briansuda? i've had problems with caching in testing
- [20:28:07] <briansuda>
yeah, works fine
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- [20:28:13] <drewinthehead>
ace.
- [20:28:30] <briansuda>
is there still interest in outputing what values were found
- [20:28:44] <drewinthehead>
yes, i think so
- [20:28:58] <drewinthehead>
would you like to see everything that was found?
- [20:30:17] <briansuda>
i think that would be good. It says "all OK", but i'm not sure what is OK
- [20:30:30] <drewinthehead>
agreed
- [20:30:51] <drewinthehead>
best to show any unknown values first, and then list out everything that was found, do you think?
- [20:31:35] <briansuda>
well, if you list what ones are there, and two appear, and i know i added 3, i can figure out which is in error
- [20:31:46] <briansuda>
or you can show which is in error, but not all of them
- [20:31:54] <briansuda>
it depends on which set you show
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- [21:24:08] <drewinthehead>
updated, briansuda. now outputs suspicious values first, and then good values
- [21:24:51] <Frederic>
night
- [21:25:33] <drewinthehead>
night Frederic
- [21:25:52] <briansuda>
do you have a sample page that has bad values?
- [21:25:59] <briansuda>
everything is working well so far
- [21:26:00] <drewinthehead>
http://allinthehead.com/
- [21:26:06] * drewinthehead looks ashamed
- [21:26:35] <briansuda>
http://meyerweb.com/ as well
- [21:26:39] <drewinthehead>
the fact that it found mistakes on my own site shows how it's useful
- [21:26:42] <briansuda>
there is an issue about z-index
- [21:27:29] <drewinthehead>
yeah .. it's so hard getting this displaying correctly! :)
- [21:30:24] <drewinthehead>
i think i've sorted the z-index
- [21:30:59] <briansuda>
yeah, that is better
- [21:34:10] <drewinthehead>
line wonkiness tuned too
- [21:34:26] <drewinthehead>
!important is a wonderful thing ... which i hoped i'd never need to use ;)
- [21:35:50] <drewinthehead>
some weird 'undefined' values coming through on tantek's blog :/
- [21:36:12] <briansuda>
yeah, i was looking at that too
- [21:37:37] <drewinthehead>
ah, it's when there are hCards
- [21:37:58] <drewinthehead>
i'm being too naive in grabbing the text of the link.
- [21:38:41] <bewest>
heh. wonkiness
- [21:39:11] <drewinthehead>
you seeing some wonkiness too, bewest?
- [21:39:37] <bewest>
yeah, but I'm not looking at your thing right now
- [21:39:46] <bewest>
I was just musing at the word
- [21:39:57] <drewinthehead>
ah cool :)
- [21:40:01] <drewinthehead>
time to call it a night
- [21:40:08] <drewinthehead>
thanks for the input, briansuda
- [21:40:10] <drewinthehead>
night all.
- [21:40:14] <bewest>
is it in change control?
- [21:40:49] <drewinthehead>
not yet, bewest. http://tools.microformatic.com/rel-lint/rel-lint.html
- [21:40:50] <drewinthehead>
night
- [21:40:53] <bewest>
night
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