IRC Log for #microformats on 2006-09-29
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- [00:49:17] <yakk>
ahh, the flock about page is a great example of why display:none hurts microformats
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remi is Remi Prevost, a web developper (yeah, that's how we spell "developer" in french) from Quebec and blogs about web stuff at <http://remiprevost.com/>
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- [01:03:57] <evanpro>
jibot: csarven?
- [01:04:02] <evanpro>
Dang
- [01:04:04] <evanpro>
That doesn't work
- [01:07:10] <yakk>
jibot, seen csarven
- [01:07:15] <yakk>
nope
- [01:07:19] <yakk>
its not useful
- [01:07:21] <yakk>
damned termie
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- [01:09:51] <csarven>
jibot told me to tell you guys that .. csarven is here
- [01:10:01] <csarven>
hey evan =)
- [01:11:26] <csarven>
reading the comments on this sad article: http://alistapart.com/articles/qtag/
- [01:12:13] <csarven>
i can't believe ALA releases articles like that
- [01:39:11] <evanpro>
Hey csarven
- [01:39:22] <evanpro>
I was just looking for the spelling of your last name B-)
- [01:39:33] <csarven>
Capadisli
- [01:40:14] <csarven>
how come? :)
- [01:42:11] <evanpro>
Oh, I was adding you to my blogroll thingy
- [01:42:35] <evanpro>
http://evan.prodromou.name/ <-- you're at the bottom there
- [01:42:50] <evanpro>
That qtag article is great
- [01:42:50] <csarven>
i guess i have to climb my way up :P
- [01:43:00] <yakk>
we need a clue tag
- [01:43:26] <evanpro>
"Use CSS to disable the correct behaviour of compliant browsers so your manual workaround works on all browsers"
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- [01:47:58] <evanpro>
I'm pretty dubious about the q tag to begin with
- [01:48:07] <evanpro>
Is punctuation markup?
- [01:48:39] <evanpro>
<question type="rhetorical">Or, rather, do we need markup for punctuation</question>
- [01:48:54] <csarven>
i think the point was to allow the lang to set the style of punctuation
- [01:49:13] <yakk>
punctuation is presentation, not markup, right?
- [01:49:47] <csarven>
but what i don't understand (or perhaps it doesn't make sense) is if you are writing in english, then you can introduce the english puntuation style of a quatation
- [01:50:04] <evanpro>
Right
- [01:50:24] <csarven>
if the content is in french, then use the french version
- [01:50:26] <evanpro>
A Frenchman reading English doesn't expect quotes in guillemets
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- [03:46:43] <yakk>
hey, so for xoxo do the elements *need* to be <ol> & <li> & <dl> & <dt> & <dd>?
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bengee is Benjamin Nowack (http://bnode.org/)
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danja is Danny Ayers, http://dannyayers.com
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drewinthehead is the author of hKit and a developer for Yahoo! Europe
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trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and helps with www.multipack.co.uk
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Charl is Charl van Niekerk and writes about standards at http://standards.za.net/
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Atamido is Paul Bryson, http://orangeman.commo.de/
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edsu is Ed Summers from the Library of Congress <http://www.inkdroid.org>
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danja is Danny Ayers, http://dannyayers.com
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Hehe
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[[species-examples]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-examples&diff=0&oldid=9093 * SXBRC * (+138) Insect -
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[[species-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-examples&diff=0&oldid=9094 * SXBRC * (+360)
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[[species-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-examples&diff=0&oldid=9095 * SXBRC * (+148) Unsepcified species -
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[[species-examples]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-examples&diff=0&oldid=9096 * SXBRC * (+3) Unsepcified species -
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[[species-examples]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-examples&diff=0&oldid=9097 * SXBRC * (+9) Arachnid -
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[[species-examples]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-examples&diff=0&oldid=9098 * SXBRC * (+1) Arachnid -
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[[species-examples]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-examples&diff=0&oldid=9099 * SXBRC * (+0) Unsepcified species -
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[[species-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-examples&diff=0&oldid=9100 * SXBRC * (+242) Use in blogs -
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[[species-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-examples&diff=0&oldid=9101 * SXBRC * (+71) Use in blogs -
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[[species-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-examples&diff=0&oldid=9102 * SXBRC * (+17) Notable websites -
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[[species-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-examples&diff=0&oldid=9103 * SXBRC * (+101) Quantitative evidence -
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[[species-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-examples&diff=0&oldid=9104 * SXBRC * (+43) Contributors -
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[[species-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-examples&diff=0&oldid=9105 * SXBRC * (-16) Contributors -
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danja is Danny Ayers, http://dannyayers.com
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[[User:SXBRC]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/User:SXBRC * SXBRC * (+573)
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[[species-examples]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-examples&diff=0&oldid=9106 * SXBRC * (+78) Contributors -
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[[species-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-examples&diff=0&oldid=9107 * SXBRC * (-1) Contributors -
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csarven is Sarven Capadisli and can be found online at http://www.csarven.ca
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[[species]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species&diff=0&oldid=9108 * SXBRC * (+104) Contributors -
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sreynen is Scott Reynen, who makes things at makedatamakesense.com
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[[species-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=9109 * SXBRC * (+298) Straw man proposal -
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[[species-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=9110 * SXBRC * (+764) Straw man proposal -
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gsnedders is a 14 year old idiot from Scotland and pretends to have a website at http://geoffers.uni.cc/
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[[species-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=9111 * AndyMabbett * (+558) Straw man proposal - phase, type
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veeliam is William Lawrence of Quiddities Dev out of Santa Cruz
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cgriego is Chris Griego (-06:00) and a front-end architect with rd2inc.com
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- [16:10:45] <drewinthehead>
gsnedders: i don't think i've ever seen such a comprehensive site for a php class as http://simplepie.org/ :)
- [16:11:02] <gsnedders>
drewinthehead: heh. the site is very little to do with me :)
- [16:11:15] <drewinthehead>
regardless, impressive
- [16:11:17] <gsnedders>
drewinthehead: I stick to the parser itself, and leave the rest to Ryan.
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[[species]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species&diff=0&oldid=9112 * SXBRC * (+234) Introduction -
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Looks like 37 signals
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[[species-brainstorming]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=9113 * SXBRC * (+301) Expressing a species with a GUID -
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vmarks is in NC
- [16:26:33] <gsnedders>
drewinthehead: http://floatstats.sourceforge.net/ is what happens when I do something about designing a site for software :)
- [16:27:09] <drewinthehead>
ah, that's no so bad
- [16:27:27] <drewinthehead>
:)
- [16:27:33] <drewinthehead>
time to catch the bus ... laters
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Phae is Frances Berriman of http://www.fberriman.com/
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drewinthehead is the author of hKit and a developer for Yahoo! Europe
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drew :D
- [19:25:45] <drewinthehead>
Phae :)
- [19:27:35] <drewinthehead>
how's tricks?
- [19:27:55] <Phae>
sneezy
- [19:28:08] <Phae>
I feel better since I got home from work though.
- [19:28:19] <Phae>
I should have stayed home.
- [19:28:45] <Phae>
Should be okay for tomorrow. I'll dose myself up good tonight.
- [19:29:20] <drewinthehead>
excellent
- [19:29:44] <Phae>
I hope its good tomorrow.
- [19:30:22] <Phae>
I feel oddly nervous about it. It's a popular event on upcoming :S
- [19:31:37] <drewinthehead>
my only worry is that we wont fit into the place ...
- [19:31:43] <Phae>
heh
- [19:31:48] <Phae>
I know!
- [19:32:11] <Phae>
I don't think either of us were expecting the numbers to get so high though. I was thinking like 20 tops originally.
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- [19:32:57] <drewinthehead>
yeah, well one of the reasons for just making it drinks in a pub was to get an idea of interest in this kind of thing :)
- [19:33:11] <Phae>
yeah
- [19:33:20] <Phae>
well. i think it's safe to say people are interested
- [19:33:32] <drewinthehead>
we'll see how many actually turn up ;)
- [19:33:35] <Phae>
yeah
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It'll just end up being the pub standards crowd :P
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- [19:34:28] <drewinthehead>
heh :)
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oh well! we'll see.
- [19:35:26] <drewinthehead>
indeed :)
- [19:35:38] <drewinthehead>
right .. i'd best go attend to the spluttering one downstairs
- [19:35:43] <Phae>
aw :<
- [19:35:46] <Phae>
I feel her pain!
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- [19:36:11] <Phae>
hehe
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- [19:36:39] <Phae>
:D
- [19:36:45] <drewinthehead>
back in a while!
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bai
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hey, can anyone give me a bit of xoxo clarifying?
- [20:01:44] <yakk>
in other microformats its all about the class, but in xoxo the actual tags matter - ol, li, dl dt & dd - is that right?
- [20:02:54] <sreynen>
yakk, there are a few places in other microformats where tags matter too, but generally, i believe you are correct
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sreynen, ok - but for xoxo, the tags *do* matter, right?
- [20:11:06] <sreynen>
yes
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a tangential question - does ie6 support xpath?
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I'm basing my code on a getElementsBySelector implementation that's really slow and I'm tempted to move to xpath directly, but I have no windows to experiment on
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i don't know much about ie's xpath support
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