IRC Log for #microformats on 2006-10-11

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  10. [00:32:03] <mfbot> [[to-do]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=to-do&diff=0&oldid=9385 * Tantek * (+240) canonical representation of microformats in JSON?
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  17. [01:35:40] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  20. [02:15:42] <mfbot> [[measure-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=measure-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=9386 * Guillaume Lebleu * (+1633) Comments on Bogdan's notes
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  30. [04:45:47] <mfbot> [[currency-proposal]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/currency-proposal * Guillaume Lebleu * (+2745) Initial version
  31. [04:46:33] <mfbot> [[currency]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=currency&diff=0&oldid=9387 * Guillaume Lebleu * (+24) Added link to currency proposal
  32. [04:46:59] <mfbot> [[currency]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=currency&diff=0&oldid=9388 * Guillaume Lebleu * (+19) Contributors -
  33. [04:50:55] <mfbot> [[currency-proposal]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=currency-proposal&diff=0&oldid=9389 * Guillaume Lebleu * (+301) Added feature/benefit
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  55. [07:30:16] <mfbot> [[measure-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=measure-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=9390 * BogdanStancescu * (+2183) Bogdan Stăncescu - replies
  56. [07:40:32] <mfbot> [[licensing-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=licensing-examples&diff=0&oldid=9391 * LordElph * (+118) added link to Geograph British Isles
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  60. [08:02:54] <McNulty> good morning
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  66. [08:45:45] <mfbot> [[accessibility]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=accessibility&diff=0&oldid=9392 * Phae * (+145) Mailing lists -
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  80. [11:42:48] <blueNine> That currency thing is interesting, but I'm not sure of the need for it. Have I missed something?
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  144. [18:07:25] <mfbot> [[currency-proposal]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=currency-proposal&diff=0&oldid=9393 * Guillaume Lebleu * (+365) Precised the meaning of currency and unit
  145. [18:08:36] <mfbot> [[currency-proposal]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=currency-proposal&diff=0&oldid=9394 * Guillaume Lebleu * (-30) Examples -
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  147. [18:09:32] <Ronnos> howdy!
  148. [18:12:05] <Ronnos> is it possible to make a reference to a complete hcard instead of only a subtree of that hcard with the include pattern?
  149. [18:13:47] <mfbot> [[currency-proposal]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=currency-proposal&diff=0&oldid=9395 * Guillaume Lebleu * (+322) Added example with "unit"
  150. [18:14:28] <mfbot> [[currency-proposal]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=currency-proposal&diff=0&oldid=9396 * Guillaume Lebleu * (+131) Property List -
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  153. [18:22:48] <kingryan> Ronnos: hi, welcome
  154. [18:22:54] <kingryan> Ronnos: what are you trying to do?
  155. [18:23:19] <Ronnos> i'm making a few hcards for a small company, two persons
  156. [18:23:39] <Ronnos> if you would look at their businesscards, only their names are different
  157. [18:23:42] <kingryan> and you want an hcard for the company, too?
  158. [18:23:46] <Ronnos> yes
  159. [18:23:48] <kingryan> ah, I see
  160. [18:23:57] <kingryan> you want inheritance of sorts?
  161. [18:24:07] <Ronnos> yes, have a look at this: http://www.creative-ways.nl/hcard/
  162. [18:24:33] <kingryan> I see
  163. [18:25:24] <kingryan> actually including that whole organization hcard in the others should work
  164. [18:25:58] <kingryan> just make sure the include is the last thing in the hcard, that way the fn from the organization won't conflict with the fn in the individual's hcards
  165. [18:25:59] <Ronnos> so i have the put the #w into the company's hcard
  166. [18:26:19] <Ronnos> and not in a subtree
  167. [18:26:30] <kingryan> you don't have do, but you can
  168. [18:26:55] <kingryan> what you've done is perfectly valid, it just doesn't include the .adr, .tel or .email in the individual hcards
  169. [18:27:28] <Ronnos> ah, i see. I was trying to view the hcards with the Tails Export plug-in, but it didn't add the company info into the person hcards.
  170. [18:27:51] <kingryan> I'm not sure if tails does the a.include pattern
  171. [18:27:56] <kingryan> it might only do object.include
  172. [18:28:21] <Ronnos> but, if i include a whole hcard, isn't it better to use an object.include?
  173. [18:28:32] <kingryan> it doesn't really matter
  174. [18:28:52] <kingryan> other than the fact that a.include is newer so it might not be implemented as widely
  175. [18:29:18] <Ronnos> how about an empy a tag? is that correct?
  176. [18:29:23] <Ronnos> it looks weird
  177. [18:29:43] <kingryan> it does, it's a bit of a hack, but its the best thing we've found
  178. [18:32:43] <Ronnos> couldn't find an example of what i'm trying to do here, only the opposite
  179. [18:33:34] <Ronnos> is there a plug-in or an web-app who supports the include pattern?
  180. [18:34:34] <kingryan> x2v supports it
  181. [18:37:48] <Ronnos> for the moment it's safer to put the company info directly into the person hcard i assume?
  182. [18:39:32] <kingryan> probably
  183. [18:42:12] <Ronnos> hm, thanks for the help kingryan
  184. [18:43:44] <Ronnos> i think i'll use the object.include, because i think thats the best way for a complete hCard
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  200. [19:18:16] <kingryan> that's 'cause you have invalid markup, which tidy is likely to throw away
  201. [19:18:23] <kingryan> you can't put a div inside a span
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  204. [19:20:27] <mfbot> [[Special:Log/block]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Special:Log/block&diff=0&oldid=0 * RyanKing * (+0) blocked "User:DasdDsdfd" with an expiry time of indefinite: SPAM!
  205. [19:20:43] <mfbot> [[Main Page]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Main_Page&diff=0&oldid=9398 * RyanKing * (-28023) Reverted edit of DasdDsdfd, changed back to last version by RobertBachmann
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  207. [19:21:37] <Ronnos> aha, where are my glasses :)
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  219. [20:23:46] <mfbot> [[licensing-examples]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=licensing-examples&diff=0&oldid=9399 * Mike Linksvayer * (+189) Commercial licensing availability - minor details about existing examples
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  233. [21:27:16] <mfbot> [[currency-proposal]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=currency-proposal&diff=0&oldid=9402 * Guillaume Lebleu * (-1) Acknowledgements -
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  243. [22:19:53] <mfbot> [[licensing-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=licensing-examples&diff=0&oldid=9403 * Mike Linksvayer * (+1341) Audio - more examples
  244. [22:28:45] <mfbot> [[licensing-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=licensing-examples&diff=0&oldid=9404 * Mike Linksvayer * (+250) Photos - wikimedia commons example
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  246. [22:34:01] <jibot> ajturner is Andrew Turner, a simulation and geolocation nut who blogs at http://highearthorbit.com
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  250. [22:38:16] <mfbot> [[licensing-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=licensing-examples&diff=0&oldid=9405 * Mike Linksvayer * (+472) Videos - more examples
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  256. [22:42:32] <mfbot> [[licensing-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=licensing-examples&diff=0&oldid=9406 * Mike Linksvayer * (+330) Web pages - more examples
  257. [22:46:08] <mfbot> [[licensing-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=licensing-examples&diff=0&oldid=9407 * Mike Linksvayer * (+172) License notice with content hash - add requested section
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  260. [22:52:29] <mfbot> [[licensing-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=licensing-examples&diff=0&oldid=9408 * Mike Linksvayer * (+367) Rights warranty/idemnification availability - examples
  261. [22:52:50] <mfbot> [[licensing-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=licensing-examples&diff=0&oldid=9409 * Mike Linksvayer * (+31) License notice with content hash - rc example
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  267. [23:28:17] <mfbot> [[licensing]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=licensing&diff=0&oldid=9410 * Mike Linksvayer * (+100) Licensing - links to -formats and -brainstorming
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  270. [23:38:44] <mfbot> [[licensing-formats]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/licensing-formats * Mike Linksvayer * (+813) unsatisfactory first cut
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  272. [23:47:38] <jibot> bkdelong is B.K. DeLong, Head Research Analyst for HALO Worldwide - http://www.haloworldwide.com. Web: http://www.brain-stream.com. Email: bkdelong@pobox.com and lives in Salem, MA, USA (-5:00 GMT)
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