IRC Log for #microformats on 2006-10-12

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  5. [00:20:25] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  9. [00:49:34] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  12. [00:55:36] <jibot> cgriego is Chris Griego (-06:00) and a front-end architect with rd2inc.com
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  33. [03:24:42] <mfbot> [[events]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events&diff=0&oldid=9411 * Tantek * (+196) added Industry Standards 2.0 panel.
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  43. [04:21:35] <jibot> cgriego is Chris Griego (-06:00) and a front-end architect with rd2inc.com
  44. [04:30:19] <mfbot> [[xoxo-faq]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=xoxo-faq&diff=0&oldid=9412 * MikeSchinkel * (+308) Need help understanding XOXO's benefits and use cases
  45. [04:31:36] <mfbot> [[User:MikeSchinkel]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/User:MikeSchinkel * MikeSchinkel * (+134) Initial entry
  46. [04:32:02] <mfbot> [[User:MikeSchinkel]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:MikeSchinkel&diff=0&oldid=9413 * MikeSchinkel * (+16) Added my name
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  51. [05:01:44] <jibot> mlinksva is Mike Linksvayer and from Creative Commons
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  73. [07:18:36] <jibot> bengee is Benjamin Nowack (http://bnode.org/)
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  75. [07:38:22] <jibot> Atamido is Paul Bryson, http://orangeman.commo.de/
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  77. [07:57:54] <jibot> gsnedders is a 14 year old idiot from Scotland and pretends to have a website at http://geoffers.uni.cc/
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  79. [08:01:05] <jibot> trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and helps with www.multipack.co.uk
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  83. [08:59:15] <jibot> drewinthehead is the author of hKit and a developer for Yahoo! Europe
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  90. [10:31:01] <jibot> csarven is Sarven Capadisli and can be found online at http://www.csarven.ca
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  94. [11:17:59] <jibot> cgriego is Chris Griego (-06:00) and a front-end architect with rd2inc.com
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  96. [11:27:16] <jibot> danja is Danny Ayers, http://dannyayers.com
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  101. [12:16:24] <jibot> briansuda is brian suda of http://suda.co.uk and is at (-0000 GMT) and is author of "Using Microformats" for O'Reilly [http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/microformats/]
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  103. [12:25:14] <briansuda> http://teqlo.com/about.html ... These services, called "Teqlets", have a service wrapper around them that semantically normalizes web services by expressing inputs/outputs as microformats and then subjecting them to a routing algorithm that determines the proper sequencing of the services in order to create an application.
  104. [12:31:48] <ajturner> such a nice, pronouncable name "teqlets"
  105. [12:31:55] <ajturner> and "Teqlos"
  106. [12:32:23] <JMulder> I assume I'd be the only one with a messed up mind enough to think of the word 'testicles' at this early morning?
  107. [12:32:37] <JMulder> Oh, it's 2:32PM. There went my morning.
  108. [12:32:53] <JMulder> Moving on. :)
  109. [12:35:14] <briansuda> it is interesting to see if/what companies start based around Microformats
  110. [12:35:57] <ajturner> well, for better or worse, it will be a marketing buzzword
  111. [12:36:09] <ajturner> raises awareness while diluting the actual meaning
  112. [12:36:17] <briansuda> :)
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  114. [12:47:48] <mfbot> [[hresume]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hresume&diff=0&oldid=9414 * Keri Henare * (+131)
  115. [12:57:00] <trovster> What rel should be used for / ?
  116. [12:59:03] <drewinthehead> rel="start" i *think*, trovster
  117. [12:59:15] <trovster> Refers to the first document in a collection of documents. :s
  118. [12:59:41] <drewinthehead> sounds about right, doesn't it?
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  120. [13:00:21] <drewinthehead> i guess, depending on the nature of content on your homepage, you could use index
  121. [13:00:21] <briansuda> there is a rel="home" idea
  122. [13:00:32] <briansuda> the W3C has a list of pre-defined values
  123. [13:00:35] <trovster> Well, I've got previous/next and I see start as the start of THAT collection.
  124. [13:00:47] <briansuda> rel="me" as well
  125. [13:00:49] <trovster> http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/types.html#h-6.12
  126. [13:00:51] <trovster> Yeh, there.
  127. [13:00:52] <drewinthehead> that figures, trovster
  128. [13:00:58] <trovster> Well, I'm using rel="home" atm
  129. [13:01:02] <trovster> And Opera has the toolbar for that one.
  130. [13:01:06] <trovster> Although, it's not in the list
  131. [13:01:16] <drewinthehead> if you have a prev next sequence, start should be the first in that sequence
  132. [13:01:21] <briansuda> rel="start" from that link
  133. [13:01:31] <trovster> briansuda: re:above
  134. [13:02:05] <briansuda> there was a draft for rel="canonical" but that is for multiple domains
  135. [13:02:44] <trovster> I see start as a start of a collection. I have a collection of images for this portfolio piece, I have prev/next, so I see start as the start of that
  136. [13:04:10] <drewinthehead> i'd forgotten about rel="copyright"
  137. [13:06:15] <briansuda> yup, rel="license"
  138. [13:07:00] <briansuda> there is also rel="bookmark" that made it into hAtom
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  140. [13:08:05] <drewinthehead> yup, rel="bookmark" is used a lot for blog post permalinks
  141. [13:08:23] * drewinthehead hates the word 'permalink'
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  143. [13:10:24] <drewinthehead> it's not in the dictionary yet, unlike 'blogosphere'
  144. [13:10:56] <JMulder> I can't even properly pronounce 'blogosphere'. o_O
  145. [13:12:36] * drewinthehead can't pronounce 'blogosphere' without a little piece of him dying inside
  146. [13:12:42] <JMulder> Haha.
  147. [13:12:50] <mfbot> [[hcard]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard&diff=0&oldid=9415 * BlairMiller * (+121) Examples in the wild -
  148. [13:13:06] <trovster> yey, I've got 'home, first, previous, next, last and author' rels in the head.
  149. [13:13:13] <trovster> Opera only seems to use the <head> ones
  150. [13:13:43] <trovster> I did have rel="home me" in the head, but Opera doesn't like that
  151. [13:13:55] <JMulder> Such a shame. <body> is way more important. (pun intended, but it might not be funny).
  152. [13:17:46] <briansuda> hmm... technorati in peach? http://kitchen.technorati.com/search/
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  155. [13:24:53] <trovster> drewinthehead: Are you gonna show rel="xfn" in your rel-lint? coz I have rel="me" and it doesn't show up
  156. [13:25:28] <drewinthehead> is the page public?
  157. [13:25:36] <drewinthehead> i have a much newer version than is live
  158. [13:26:13] <trovster> erm, let me upload the changes... and pm
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  162. [13:40:02] <jibot> sreynen is Scott Reynen, who makes things at makedatamakesense.com
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  167. [14:02:37] <drewinthehead> rel-lint has been updated - no action required :)
  168. [14:04:40] <trovster> apart from clearin' ya cache
  169. [14:12:32] <drewinthehead> a mere detail
  170. [14:19:03] <mfbot> [[species-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-examples&diff=0&oldid=9416 * AndyMabbett * (+108) Breaking news - New mouse find is 'living fossil'
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  177. [14:52:21] <jibot> pnhChris is Chris Casciano, blogs at http://placenamehere.com/ , and a member of the Web Standards Project.
  178. [14:53:52] <JMulder> Heh, Chris. I used your PNHToolbar for ages trying to fight the Webdeveloper Toolbar fanboys off me .. I failed though. :(
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  182. [14:57:24] <pnhChris> heh.. that's ok
  183. [14:57:40] <pnhChris> its really not worth the fight :P
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  185. [14:58:39] <JMulder> Heh, well, back in the day I kept on using because I loved its simplicity. Even with the webdeveloper toolbar I disabled all icons and removed many options and other carnaval settings.
  186. [15:02:40] <Ronnos> well, JMulder is a very minimalistic person, right?
  187. [15:03:52] <JMulder> Hush. ;)
  188. [15:04:24] <pnhChris> that was ages ago... when i figured FF was just some side project and was in a bit of flux so never did really rewrite the toolbar for it :P
  189. [15:05:27] <pnhChris> (also being on the mac primarily i was even more slow then most to move to it)
  190. [15:05:56] <pnhChris> but i like the other toolbar too.. don't use it much... more a DOMI guy at this point
  191. [15:06:33] * drewinthehead is currently writing a FF toolbar, coincidentally
  192. [15:06:39] <drewinthehead> (or at least trying to)
  193. [15:07:34] <pnhChris> the XUL/js is easy
  194. [15:08:30] <pnhChris> at the time (a few years ago now) the installer process was in a little bit of flux and required a few different installers for the different products and i just didn't have the drive to follow the changes
  195. [15:09:19] <pnhChris> well.. the XUL/js is as easy as the functionality of the toolbar i guess
  196. [15:09:49] <pnhChris> its easy if its just a bunch of glorified bookmarklets like my toolbar was
  197. [15:11:28] * drewinthehead can't even get helloworld going
  198. [15:12:28] <JMulder> Same here. I've tried, but stopped bothering. Couldn't wrap my head around how it'd fit in the browser's own code.
  199. [15:12:45] <pnhChris> its been too long for me.. i'd probably have to start from scratch looking for sample installer/registration/framework stuff
  200. [15:14:56] <JMulder> All I wanted was a simple "Copy link location" functionality for the RSS feed icon in the address bar. Either I'm stupid or it just wasn't as easy as it sounded -- probably a bit of both.
  201. [15:16:11] <pnhChris> probably... no idea how they're drawing that stuff.. .the static chrome stuff is a bit easier to track down
  202. [15:16:55] <JMulder> Yeah, tracking down names of elements was one of my biggest problems.
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  204. [15:23:58] <jibot> cgriego is Chris Griego (-06:00) and a front-end architect with rd2inc.com
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  207. [15:36:12] <mfbot> [[events]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events&diff=0&oldid=9417 * Tantek * (+202) links for Industry Standards 2.0
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  219. [16:21:26] <jibot> drewinthehead is the author of hKit and a developer for Yahoo! Europe
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  221. [16:25:15] <bewest> drewinthehead: I'm having a bit of trouble with XUL as well... can't quite seem to find the information that would make everything clear
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  223. [16:26:20] <drewinthehead> i think it doesn't help that i have a book that's 3 years old, bewest ;)
  224. [16:26:27] <drewinthehead> it doesn't know about firefox
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  230. [16:56:46] <ajturner> XUL is really nice - but very sparsely doc'd
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  238. [17:27:12] <mfbot> [[history-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=history-examples&diff=0&oldid=9418 * JeremyBoggs * (+63) Tools for Timelines -
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  250. [18:01:10] <mfbot> [[history-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=history-examples&diff=0&oldid=9420 * JeremyBoggs * (+897) General History Sites -
  251. [18:26:36] <mfbot> [[hcard]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard&diff=0&oldid=9421 * Fold * (+94) New Examples -
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  253. [18:49:27] <jibot> evanpro is Evan Prodromou, info at http://wikitravel.org/en/User:Evan
  254. [18:56:28] <mfbot> [[Main Page]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Main_Page&diff=0&oldid=9422 * WikiWord * (+56)
  255. [19:08:02] <bewest> hmmm
  256. [19:08:07] <bewest> WikiWord?
  257. [19:09:36] <bewest> There are only a few cross-cutting tools and [http://fb.vitebsk.by/files/phenermine.htm phenermine]
  258. [19:09:37] <bewest> ...
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  261. [19:13:20] * bewest looks for a "roll back" button
  262. [19:13:44] <bewest> what's the process? simply go to the last good revision, hit edit, then save?
  263. [19:14:48] <KevinMarks> yes, that works
  264. [19:15:10] <mfbot> [[Main Page]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Main_Page&diff=0&oldid=9423 * BenWest * (-56) reverted WikiWord's spam
  265. [19:15:48] <bewest> should probably block WikiWord
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  270. [19:43:59] <jibot> drewinthehead is the author of hKit and a developer for Yahoo! Europe
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  272. [19:45:32] <mfbot> [[hatom]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hatom&diff=0&oldid=9424 * AndyMabbett * (+87) Examples in the wild - West Midland Bird Club - Grimley Pits
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