IRC Log for #microformats on 2006-11-05
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[[faq-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=faq-fr&diff=0&oldid=10017 * ChristopheDucamp * (+1520) Q : ''Comment je valide mon contenu de microformat ?'' -
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[[faq-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=faq-fr&diff=0&oldid=10018 * ChristopheDucamp * (+296) Créer et Suggérer de Nouveaux Microformats -
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[[rejected-formats-fr]] MN http://microformats.org/wiki/rejected-formats-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+854)
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[[xoxo-faq-fr]] MN http://microformats.org/wiki/xoxo-faq-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+4911) translation to be continued
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[[xoxo-faq-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=xoxo-faq-fr&diff=0&oldid=10019 * ChristopheDucamp * (+1) Je ne comprends pas quel est l'avange fourni par xoxo -
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[[faq-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=faq-fr&diff=0&oldid=10020 * ChristopheDucamp * (+1) Sémantique Class -
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[[hresume-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hresume-fr&diff=0&oldid=10021 * ChristopheDucamp * (+474)
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vmarks is in NC
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[[hresume-issues-fr]] MN http://microformats.org/wiki/hresume-issues-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+2848)
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[[hreview-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hreview-fr&diff=0&oldid=10022 * ChristopheDucamp * (+182) Exemples dans la jungle -
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pnhChris is Chris Casciano, blogs at http://placenamehere.com/ , and a member of the Web Standards Project.
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[[hreview-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hreview-fr&diff=0&oldid=10023 * ChristopheDucamp * (+95) Pages Apparentées -
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[[currency-fr]] MN http://microformats.org/wiki/currency-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+1344)
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[[currency-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=currency-fr&diff=0&oldid=10024 * ChristopheDucamp * (+1)
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[[to-do-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=to-do-fr&diff=0&oldid=10025 * ChristopheDucamp * (-27) [[currency-fr]] et pages apparentées
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[[press-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=press-fr&diff=0&oldid=10026 * ChristopheDucamp * (+844)
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[[podcasts-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=podcasts-fr&diff=0&oldid=10027 * ChristopheDucamp * (+540)
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[[screencasts-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=screencasts-fr&diff=0&oldid=10028 * ChristopheDucamp * (+115)
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[[Main Page-pt-br]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Main_Page-pt-br&diff=0&oldid=10029 * Token * (+116)
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[[hcalendar]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar&diff=0&oldid=10030 * ScottReynen * (+134) Conversion and Import -
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ryanlowe is Ryan Lowe, http://www.fanconcert.com
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[[rel-license-pt-br]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/rel-license-pt-br * Token * (+3508)
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[[Template:design patterns-pt-br]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/Template:design_patterns-pt-br * Token * (+576)
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[[design-patterns-pt-br]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/design-patterns-pt-br * Token * (+48)
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veeliam is William Lawrence of Quiddities Dev out of Santa Cruz and he does something at http://zaxbypass.com and here and there
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tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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[[how-to-play-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=how-to-play-fr&diff=0&oldid=10031 * ChristopheDucamp * (+48)
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gsnedders is a 14 year old idiot from Scotland and pretends to have a website at http://geoffers.uni.cc/
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danja is Danny Ayers, http://dannyayers.com
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[[introduction-fr]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=introduction-fr&diff=0&oldid=10032 * ChristopheDucamp * (-9758) synchro with introduction
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[[hcalendar-fr]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar-fr&diff=0&oldid=10033 * ChristopheDucamp * (+147) Conversion et Importation - MySpace Events RSS Creator
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danja is Danny Ayers, http://dannyayers.com
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[[process-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=process-fr&diff=0&oldid=10034 * ChristopheDucamp * (+95)
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[[process-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=process-fr&diff=0&oldid=10035 * ChristopheDucamp * (-5)
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trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and helps with www.multipack.co.uk
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Phae is Frances Berriman of http://www.fberriman.com/
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trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and helps with www.multipack.co.uk
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briansuda is brian suda of http://suda.co.uk and is at (-0000 GMT) and is author of "Using Microformats" for O'Reilly [http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/microformats/]
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bengee is Benjamin Nowack (http://bnode.org/)
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bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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pnhChris is Chris Casciano, blogs at http://placenamehere.com/ , and a member of the Web Standards Project.
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bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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danja is Danny Ayers, http://dannyayers.com
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csarven is Sarven Capadisli and can be found online at http://www.csarven.ca
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tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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- [17:36:07] * pnhChris hopes siegfried comes around soon
- [17:36:46] * pnhChris also notices that there are some really, really, really awful hcard markup living in the examples in the wild section
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Move them to the examples with problems?
- [17:38:21] <pnhChris>
its not that they're wrong per se, its that they're 'wrong'
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:P
- [17:39:42] <Phae>
Still.. nothing wrong with annotating the entries to describe why they're maybe "bad practice".
- [17:41:11] <pnhChris>
i was thinking more along the lines of an article on the topic... or something of that nature rather then going through all the examples individually to screen them
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but something needs to be done
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Start something off then - outline your main concerns- we'll pad it out
- [17:43:07] <tantek>
Chris, when you see examples with problems or with things they could improve, go ahead and add a short comment as a nested list item under the example in the list
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it helps everyone learn from the examples
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in terms of good and not as good practices
- [17:44:40] <pnhChris>
yeah
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its more wishy washy
- [17:44:54] <tantek>
even just a short comment of what comes to mind is totally fine
- [17:44:54] <pnhChris>
i guess
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in some cases
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other folks will notice and tweak / add more detail etc.
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- [17:50:45] <tantek>
Chris - your two most recent class="url" emails should be added as answers to the hCard FAQ
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in particular, we need to clarify that class="url" means, this URL is *a* URL for the hCard that it is inside
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similarly for hCalendar events and hReview items
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- [17:55:30] <tantek>
there should probably be a whole section about the "url" property in http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard-faq - given how confused how many people have been / are on the mailing list. Even some experienced folks are making small mistakes.
- [18:02:08] <pnhChris>
let me see where the discussion winds up first... if i we get into specific markup examples or flush out a better explanation
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[[video]] MN http://microformats.org/wiki/video * Tantek * (+22)
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[[audio]] MN http://microformats.org/wiki/audio * Tantek * (+22)
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[[recordings]] MN http://microformats.org/wiki/recordings * Tantek * (+22)
- [18:08:18] <tantek>
The explanation is pretty simple: class="url" is used to designate a URL for the hCard.
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period - nothing more, nothing less
- [18:08:33] <tantek>
I'm not sure why that is confusing
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[[podcasts]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=podcasts&diff=0&oldid=10036 * Tantek * (+463) added microformats interview by Fumi
- [18:15:00] <pnhChris>
i was thinking more along the lines of why we needed url, not just to use it... but i'll get to it later today.. gotta run for a bit
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bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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[[hcalendar]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar&diff=0&oldid=10037 * AndyMabbett * (+0) Examples in the wild - restore name of target page and apostrophe
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drewinthehead is the author of hKit and a developer for Yahoo! Europe
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[[podcasts]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=podcasts&diff=0&oldid=10038 * AndyMabbett * (-12) fixes
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[[introduction-sp]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=introduction-sp&diff=0&oldid=0 * AndyMabbett * (+10607) introduction-sp moved to introduction-es
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pnhChris, when you get back, we explored why we need URL and can't just imply it a while ago: http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard-brainstorming#Rejected_Suggestions
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[[Main Page-es]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Main_Page-es&diff=0&oldid=10039 * AndyMabbett * (+0) Introducción - bypass redirect
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danja is Danny Ayers, http://dannyayers.com
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- [22:56:15] <jonthn2>
hello
- [22:57:17] <jonthn2>
I'm currently trying to make my resume compliant with hResume but in fact i was asking myself if there is a way to get this in pdf afterwards ?
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danja is Danny Ayers, http://dannyayers.com
- [23:11:56] <Phae>
jonthn2- not unless you have something clever that'll know how to translate it from one ot the other.
- [23:12:07] <Phae>
I've not seen anything that does that. Would be cool.
- [23:12:35] <jonthn2>
ok thanks for the answer Phae
- [23:12:44] <tantek>
hResume is about semantics, and PDF is about presentation
- [23:12:57] <tantek>
so it would depend first on what CSS presentation you apply to your hResume
- [23:13:05] <tantek>
then you could simply "Print to PDF" on a Mac
- [23:14:32] <jonthn2>
tantek: but without Mac no solution ( i wonder if there is somewhere an xslt to transform xhtml to pdf)
- [23:15:03] <tantek>
I believe without Mac the solution is buy Adobe Acrobat
- [23:15:27] <jonthn2>
ok
- [23:15:37] <tantek>
you are asking for a proprietary format, thus you likely will need proprietary software
- [23:15:38] <Phae>
Oh, I forgot about that.
- [23:18:23] <jonthn2>
tantek: Yes I know but PDF is well-known in the company and I'm sure with it that the viewer see waht I've viewed
- [23:18:52] <tantek>
yeah it is a static-print-centric view that will take some time to evolve past
- [23:19:05] <tantek>
looks vs. meaning
- [23:20:21] <jonthn2>
yep but for now .. :( anyway i'll try to get something bye and thanks for the answers
- [23:20:41] <Phae>
bye jonathan :)
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