IRC Log for #microformats on 2006-11-06
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- [03:26:33] <_token>
Technorati collaborate with microformats?
- [03:43:06] <bewes1>
_token: many microformat people work for technorati
- [03:43:44] <bewes1>
_token: some of them work in important positions at technorati
- [03:44:51] <_token>
cool, thanks
- [03:45:11] <_token>
technorati really pay much money to work for him?
- [03:46:03] <bewes1>
technorati has hired some top notch people... I'm sure they are well compensated. people of that caliber often are well compensated
- [03:46:06] <bewes1>
but I have no clue :-)
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- [03:58:18] <jibot>
veeliam is William Lawrence of Quiddities Dev out of Santa Cruz and he does something at http://zaxbypass.com and here and there
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- [04:28:34] <jibot>
tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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- [04:29:58] * Keri-Henare thinks Tantek should write an article about why his site is marked up with xoxo
- [04:36:21] <tantek>
you mean my blog?
- [04:36:32] <tantek>
it was the most semantic markup i could come up with at the time
- [04:36:51] <tantek>
my blog markup has actually changed quite a bit over time - you can look back year by year
- [04:37:10] <tantek>
one of the advantages of static files - you can see the iterations in semantics and presentation that the blog has gone through
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- [04:39:31] <Keri-Henare>
i take a look at the markup of various sites each time I redesign my own site for inspiration. your blog is one of them. it's usually the best for semantic markup
- [04:44:16] <Keri-Henare>
do you now think that there is a better way to markup a page than with xoxo?
- [04:44:58] <bewes1>
Keri-Henare: it depends on what data is being represented
- [04:45:11] <Keri-Henare>
a blog
- [04:45:30] <Keri-Henare>
but not just a blog, a complete website
- [04:48:25] <bewes1>
I suggest you break down the website into its logical components
- [04:48:40] <bewes1>
and mark each component up with the most semantic idiom available
- [04:48:47] <bewes1>
so when you have a list of things, consider using a list of some kind
- [04:48:58] <bewes1>
when you have contacts and people, use hcard
- [04:49:05] <bewes1>
when you have events, use hcalendar
- [04:49:17] <bewes1>
when you have tables, use table
- [04:50:10] <Keri-Henare>
way ahead of you (i was one of the early adopters of hCard & hResume), but that's only components.
- [04:50:18] <bewes1>
when you have a blog, use hatom
- [04:50:25] <Keri-Henare>
i'm talking about the page as a whole, like how Tantek used xoxo
- [04:54:10] <Keri-Henare>
already planned use of hCard (obviously with adr), hResume, hCalendar, rel-tag, hAtom, rel-license, XFN, xFolk. What can I say, I'm a Microformat Whore :D
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- [05:17:48] <Keri-Henare>
Tantek: would you suggest xoxo or something else? (http://www.kerihenare.com/) is the site that I'm redoing
- [05:18:29] <tantek>
XOXO seems to make sense for anything which is a list or set of things
- [05:18:44] <tantek>
at least its the best I've come up with to date
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- [05:19:55] <Keri-Henare>
i'll look into it, thanks
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- [05:20:49] <jibot>
cbarrett is Colin Barrett and an Adium Developer and has blue hair
- [05:21:29] <cbarrett>
jibot: def cbarrett not anymore
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- [05:29:25] <Keri-Henare>
jibot: def keri-henare is Keri Henare (http://www.kerihenare.com/), New Zealand web standards fan living in England.
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bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
- [05:58:53] <Frederic>
morning
- [06:02:40] <Keri-Henare>
evening
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- [07:38:15] <jibot>
veeliam is William Lawrence of Quiddities Dev out of Santa Cruz and he does something at http://zaxbypass.com and here and there
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bengee is Benjamin Nowack (http://bnode.org/)
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danja is Danny Ayers, http://dannyayers.com
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- [09:02:08] <jibot>
trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and helps with www.multipack.co.uk
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- [09:08:02] <jibot>
McNulty is Ciaran McNulty (http://ciaranmcnulty.com)
- [09:08:31] <McNulty>
good morning
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- [09:39:53] <jibot>
tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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- [09:40:31] <tantek>
good morning
- [09:43:24] <veeliam>
good morning, tantek.
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- [09:45:53] <jibot>
McNulty is Ciaran McNulty (http://ciaranmcnulty.com)
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- [09:51:47] <jibot>
Cloud is http://www.johnbreslin.com/
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- [09:57:48] <jibot>
Phae is Frances Berriman of http://www.fberriman.com/
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- [10:00:31] <jibot>
drewinthehead is the author of hKit and a developer for Yahoo! Europe
- [10:02:13] <drewinthehead>
greetings microformateers
- [10:07:56] <Phae>
morning
- [10:12:39] * kapowaz rubs face
- [10:12:48] <kapowaz>
I require sleep.
- [10:12:59] <Phae>
I just got up. I love being on holiday.
- [10:13:08] * kapowaz scowls
- [10:13:20] <kapowaz>
I just shared a train with Richard E Grant.
- [10:13:28] <Phae>
fascinating
- [10:13:45] <kapowaz>
he queued up for a ticket in a parallel queue to me, we were served at the same time, and then wandered down the platform behind me.
- [10:13:52] <kapowaz>
when the train arrived he stood next to me in the carriage.
- [10:14:03] <kapowaz>
and I spent the whole journey trying not to quote Withnail & I to him
- [10:14:03] <McNulty>
Did you make an ill-advised Withnail joke?
- [10:14:07] <Phae>
Do you feel like him now?
- [10:14:09] * kapowaz grins
- [10:14:18] <kapowaz>
actually I felt sort of shameful
- [10:14:29] <kapowaz>
like, what must it be like when people are doing that to you all the goddamned time?
- [10:14:39] <kapowaz>
pretty annoying
- [10:14:51] <kapowaz>
I guess.
- [10:15:03] <Phae>
I dunno. We'll stare at you (more) if you like and you can find out.
- [10:15:17] <kapowaz>
I am not famous though
- [10:15:35] <kapowaz>
people stare at me anyway, but usually it's because I've shaving foam on my ear or something
- [10:17:59] <kapowaz>
http://www.crummy.com/writing/REST-Web-Services/ looks interesting.
- [10:18:44] <Phae>
Interesting. Did you see Allsops microformat book is listed on Friends of Ed for April I think.
- [10:18:47] <Phae>
?
- [10:19:22] <drewinthehead>
exciting
- [10:19:25] <drewinthehead>
all these books/
- [10:19:47] <Phae>
I know.
- [10:19:53] <defunkt>
i just totally tricked out my blog with microformats
- [10:20:07] <defunkt>
tails is so neat
- [10:20:07] <Phae>
Good. hAtom'd?
- [10:20:28] <defunkt>
Phae: yes, to the best of my ability. still learning all the rules
- [10:20:48] <McNulty>
Anyone recommend any decent hardcopy REST books?
- [10:20:58] <drewinthehead>
if you break the hAtom rules, Phae breaks your fingers, i've heard.
- [10:20:59] <Phae>
S'cool. You should link us up when you've got it where you think you're about right. People'll check it for you.
- [10:21:07] <Phae>
Well, I've had my moments.
- [10:21:38] <kapowaz>
I didn't, no
- [10:21:55] <kapowaz>
makes me wish I was doing something that could publish a web services API
- [10:22:24] <defunkt>
ah i think i screwed up on the date
- [10:22:45] <defunkt>
good thing i didnt link you. i like my fingers.
- [10:25:36] <Phae>
Fingers are overrated. All you need is a pointy stick on a headset.
- [10:25:46] <kapowaz>
and a bib
- [10:25:58] <Phae>
Lack of fingers make you drool?
- [10:26:45] <kapowaz>
yes
- [10:26:50] <kapowaz>
didn't you know?
- [10:28:33] * kapowaz chuckles
- [10:28:38] <kapowaz>
"Systems that follow Fielding's REST principles are often referred to as RESTful; REST's most zealous advocates call themselves RESTafarians"
- [10:28:56] <kapowaz>
is that true, or is that wikipedia humour?
- [10:29:28] <Phae>
probably true.
- [10:29:34] * Phae coughts *microformateers*
- [10:29:36] <Phae>
-t
- [10:30:03] <kapowaz>
not quite so snappy
- [10:30:09] <kapowaz>
microformees?
- [10:30:39] <McNulty>
kapowaz - I regularly use the phrase RESTful
- [10:30:51] <McNulty>
I've also heard people call themselves RESTafarians
- [10:30:56] <Phae>
I think he was refering to the RESTafarian part.
- [10:30:59] <McNulty>
but I think that's lame
- [10:31:04] <Phae>
RESTful is very common
- [10:31:52] <kapowaz>
I'd heard of RESTful before, aye
- [10:31:55] <McNulty>
I've definitely encounters RESTafarianism
- [10:32:15] <kapowaz>
whacky web services types, eh
- [10:32:26] <McNulty>
Typical geek humour ;)
- [10:32:30] <kapowaz>
thank god for them, really.
- [10:32:52] <kapowaz>
so long as we have people dreaming up recursive acronyms and silly names, I feel like IT is still a creative field.
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Ronnos is Ron Kok, a friendly student Communication and Multimedia Design in The Netherlands
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- [10:56:57] <jibot>
julianstahnke is Julian Stahnke and works for last.fm and implements microformats wherever he can
- [10:57:41] <trovster>
julianstahnke: hey, can I pm you about a last.fm
- [10:57:48] <julianstahnke>
yeah
- [10:57:57] <defunkt>
how well supported is this here 'include-pattern' ?
- [10:58:09] <McNulty>
defunkt - I'd say 'moderately'
- [11:00:01] <McNulty>
Really it depends... some parsers implement it very well, others don't implement it at all. It will depend which uF you're taking about too.
- [11:00:49] <kapowaz>
aha! mewfies!
- [11:00:56] <kapowaz>
or moofies.
- [11:01:04] <defunkt>
currently i'd like to use it in my hentry's author field. looks like safari has some issues with object, possibly, according to the include-pattern-feedback wiki page
- [11:01:09] <kapowaz>
thinking out loud there; silly names for microformats advocates.
- [11:01:11] <defunkt>
so, damn. must investigate
- [11:02:07] <Phae>
For your hAtom? If you're the only author of that page's entries, you can let hAtom infer your author info from your hCard in an <address> on the same page.
- [11:02:09] <drewinthehead>
object is ok in safari, just needs plying with CSS
- [11:02:17] <defunkt>
Phae: two authors
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- [11:02:20] <Phae>
I personally prefer to be explicit, but it's an option.
- [11:02:21] <Phae>
Ah!
- [11:02:23] <Phae>
Okay, nm then :)
- [11:02:31] <drewinthehead>
also a@include should be ok
- [11:02:42] <drewinthehead>
there are so many ways to skin cats these days
- [11:03:55] <McNulty>
defunkt - I don't believe hatom2atom supports a.include but I could be wrong
- [11:04:23] <McNulty>
You can rely on it finding the nearest in-parent <ADDRESS> and using that, but there are problems with ADDRESS>
- [11:04:48] <trovster>
<address> isn't required, either. IIRC
- [11:04:54] <Phae>
the spec says address
- [11:04:58] <Phae>
IIRC
- [11:05:03] <Phae>
I haven't looked at it today :P
- [11:05:07] <McNulty>
trovster - It is for the nearest in-parent fallback thingy
- [11:05:14] <Phae>
Yeah, very last case scenario.
- [11:05:14] <McNulty>
I came up against it recently
- [11:05:35] <trovster>
Yeh, ideally address, but if not, vcard. I remember discussig it here
- [11:05:37] <McNulty>
it's either @class="author vcard" or it looks for an <ADDRESS>. There's no middle step
- [11:06:08] <Phae>
the hAtom spec doesn't say it'll look for any old vcard
- [11:06:17] <Phae>
it looks for address and stops - it's invalid after that
- [11:06:18] <McNulty>
indeed
- [11:06:28] <Phae>
unless the spec is wrong
- [11:06:32] <trovster>
Oh well, I'm not working within those tight constraints.
- [11:06:45] <trovster>
And I'm certainly not adding <a rel="include"> to everything.
- [11:06:50] <McNulty>
heh
- [11:06:58] <McNulty>
petition to change the spec then ;-)
- [11:07:59] <trovster>
microformats need to be more like IE...
- [11:08:19] <Phae>
should check with parser people to see if they'd look for a vcard if all else fails
- [11:08:23] <Phae>
because that would be REALLY hit and miss
- [11:08:54] <defunkt>
i'm writing a parser in ruby, but right now it's pretty simple
- [11:09:03] <defunkt>
thus the questions and microformatting of my blog, etc
- [11:09:14] <Phae>
sure
- [11:09:22] <McNulty>
There's another spec that does a similar fallback
- [11:09:24] <McNulty>
hResume maybe?
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- [11:09:34] <trovster>
STATUS - RESOLVED - 'author' required, should use <address> -- should use <address>... I use <div class="vcard author"> this is all I'm talking about
- [11:09:54] <McNulty>
trovster - you do that in each hentry?
- [11:10:02] <Phae>
I do that, also.
- [11:10:07] <trovster>
No. I do that at the top of the page.
- [11:10:21] <McNulty>
does hatom2atom pick that up?
- [11:10:29] <Phae>
brb
- [11:10:31] <McNulty>
or other parsers
- [11:10:50] <McNulty>
the spec says: " if the Entry Author is missing find the Nearest In Parent <address> element(s) with class name author and that is/are a valid hCard otherwise the entry is invalid hAtom [edit]"
- [11:11:03] <McNulty>
If the <address> was taken out that'd be a lot better IMO
- [11:11:16] <drewinthehead>
defunkt: have you checked out the existing ruby parsers? (might be worth contributing to something existing rather than starting from scratch)
- [11:11:43] <defunkt>
drewinthehead: yeah. they are a bit unwieldy, and slow
- [11:11:55] <Phae>
nah, address is really important. It ties the content to a page author. I prefer that it's explicitly looking for address in last case.
- [11:13:16] <drewinthehead>
defunkt: but if they work, could they be optimised for performance..? (i think we'd all rather see a small number of good, complete parsers than a proliferation of unfinished ones)
- [11:13:36] <drewinthehead>
not to say don't build your own, but i'd encourage you to seriously think about it :)
- [11:14:23] <McNulty>
Phae - ok sure, but maybe it should look for a nearest in-parent element @class="author vcard" first?
- [11:14:33] <McNulty>
Because ADDRESS is inline and breaks stuff
- [11:14:48] <defunkt>
drewinthehead: of course, good points
- [11:14:48] <Phae>
Ah, I thought you'd be assuming "author" was missing completely, because yeah, author should be sort out first.
- [11:17:35] <trovster>
julianstahnke: ?
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- [11:25:13] <julianstahnke>
yeah, trovster, was in a meeting
- [11:25:23] <trovster>
nm, I've found it, cheers
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- [11:30:33] <jibot>
NatBat is Natalie Downe [http://natbat.wordpress.com and http://natbat.co.uk/]
- [11:31:56] <NatBat>
Hello
- [11:33:20] <drewinthehead>
hey nat
- [11:33:27] <drewinthehead>
just looking at your thing now :)
- [11:33:36] <NatBat>
thanks Drew
- [11:33:47] <NatBat>
was just about to ask the same question here :)
- [11:33:51] <trovster>
That second URL is empty, right?
- [11:33:59] <McNulty>
looks it ;-)
- [11:34:14] <NatBat>
which url?
- [11:34:19] <McNulty>
natbat.co.uk
- [11:34:20] <trovster>
.co.uk
- [11:34:46] <NatBat>
ahhh yes my hosting went down after I did the definition - quite a while ago since ive last been on irc
- [11:35:04] <NatBat>
http://notes.natbat.net if you are interested in a more uptodate url
- [11:35:22] <McNulty>
I just instinctively click on links as people join.
- [11:35:28] <drewinthehead>
sometimes the X2V converter will output warnings and errors in the source of the file, but I'm not seeing any.
- [11:35:38] <drewinthehead>
iCal.app accepts the calendar, but it has no events
- [11:35:56] <NatBat>
Outlook was winging of a corrupt file
- [11:36:07] <NatBat>
I thought it might be something to do with the dates
- [11:36:20] <NatBat>
Evolution just gave up and died
- [11:36:48] <NatBat>
where can I find the X2V converter?
- [11:37:26] <McNulty>
http://suda.co.uk/projects/X2V/
- [11:37:35] <NatBat>
thanks
- [11:37:37] <McNulty>
what URL are you looking at?
- [11:37:46] <McNulty>
which calendar, I maen
- [11:37:56] <NatBat>
http://rm3-ndcs.torchboxapps.com/whats_on/other_events/gocarting.html
- [11:37:58] <drewinthehead>
that's what technorati are using, NatBat
- [11:38:16] <NatBat>
ah ok thanks
- [11:38:41] <McNulty>
the suda.co.uk one does tend to be slightly newer - brian made some recent changes to the way line endings are handled
- [11:38:54] <julianstahnke>
there still is an error on the group pages: Notice: Undefined variable: return in /web/site/www.staging.last.fm/lib/core/resource/group/group.php on line 2794
- [11:39:02] <julianstahnke>
ups, sorry, wrong channel
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- [11:39:08] <jibot>
briansuda is brian suda of http://suda.co.uk and is at (-0000 GMT) and is author of "Using Microformats" for O'Reilly [http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/microformats/]
- [11:39:20] <McNulty>
wow a peek into the internals of last.fm debugging ;-)
- [11:39:31] <julianstahnke>
:D
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- [11:41:15] <NatBat>
?def NatBat is Natalie Downe and can be found online at http://notes.natbat.net
- [11:41:16] <jibot>
NatBat is Natalie Downe [http://natbat.wordpress.com and http://natbat.co.uk/] and Natalie Downe and can be found online at http://notes.natbat.net
- [11:41:42] <McNulty>
?forget NatBat
- [11:41:43] <jibot>
I need at least 3 words with an 'is' in the middle
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- [11:42:27] <McNulty>
NatBat - you need to do ?forgetme
- [11:42:44] <NatBat>
thanks
- [11:42:49] <NatBat>
?forgetme
- [11:42:49] <jibot>
I have expunged NatBat from my mind
- [11:42:50] <Phae>
hey nat
- [11:43:12] <NatBat>
hello :)
- [11:43:28] <NatBat>
?def NatBat is Natalie Downe and can be found online at http://notes.natbat.net
- [11:43:28] <jibot>
NatBat is Natalie Downe and can be found online at http://notes.natbat.net
- [11:44:01] <Phae>
funnily enough, I went to natbat.co.uk today (via upcoming) and noticed it wasn't really there.
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- [11:44:42] <NatBat>
yus, my hosting just disapeared, left a whole load of people in the lurch I believe!
- [11:44:48] <Phae>
that sucks :(
- [11:45:07] <NatBat>
totally!
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- [11:47:01] <NatBat>
drewinthehead - do you recon the reason the download isnt working could have something to do with my nesting a vcard inside?
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- [11:47:50] <drewinthehead>
i don't think so, NatBat, that's pretty standard
- [11:48:03] <drewinthehead>
it's a little odd ...
- [11:48:13] <NatBat>
it is rather
- [11:50:01] <kapowaz>
http://www.kapowaz.net/images/arabic-spam.png
- [11:50:11] <NatBat>
it could be the dates though,
- [11:50:13] <NatBat>
there is an indescrepancy between the results from the tails exstention in firefox and the flocktails extension, the firefox one does not seam to be reading the dates of the event where as flocktails is
- [11:50:26] <kapowaz>
I kind of want to know what that all says. Like, why has it got 'php' interspersed in there?
- [11:50:37] <Phae>
I think flocktails has always done a slightly better job, for whatever reason
- [11:51:05] <drewinthehead>
looking at the source of the .ics file and comparing to the example in the hcalendar spec, it looks fine
- [11:51:20] <McNulty>
drewinthehead - line endings problem maybe? charset?
- [11:51:48] <McNulty>
Are multiple URLs allowed in an event?
- [11:51:51] <NatBat>
yeah i always perfer flocktails, its got quite a nice interface too, the firefox tails also seams to think there are two locations
- [11:52:45] <drewinthehead>
ah, i was looking at the wrong month ... let's start again ;)
- [11:52:54] <Phae>
lol
- [11:53:22] <briansuda>
no, only one URL per event
- [11:53:59] <McNulty>
the output card has two URLs, I think from the embedded hCards
- [11:54:06] <drewinthehead>
ok, so it *does* work in iCal.app
- [11:54:12] <McNulty>
er I mean one is from the embedded hCard
- [11:54:18] <drewinthehead>
ah, URL is a singleton?
- [11:54:48] <McNulty>
The only other thing I can see that might not be right is the empty line between END:VEVENT and END:VCALENDAR
- [11:55:01] <drewinthehead>
X2V is outputting each URL it finds, but the look of it
- [11:55:16] <McNulty>
It's also looking inside the vcard and finding that URL
- [11:55:23] <McNulty>
dunno if that's correct?
- [11:56:09] <NatBat>
the url was supposed to relate to the vcard
- [11:56:39] <McNulty>
NatBat - the link to google from the card's name is showing up in the output .ics
- [11:56:46] <McNulty>
as is the link to download the factsheet
- [11:57:11] <McNulty>
I assume you only wanted the second in there
- [11:57:51] <NatBat>
yeah the factsheet url is for the event and the other is for the vcard
- [11:57:53] <briansuda>
which page are we talking about?
- [11:58:01] <briansuda>
which URL
- [11:58:02] <NatBat>
http://rm3-ndcs.torchboxapps.com/whats_on/other_events/gocarting.html
- [11:58:21] <NatBat>
The add to calender link
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- [12:00:19] <briansuda>
; the following are optional,
- [12:00:19] <briansuda>
; but MUST NOT occur more than once
- [12:00:19] <briansuda>
uid / url / recurid /
- [12:00:27] <briansuda>
so it looks like you ONLY get one URL per event
- [12:00:40] <briansuda>
let me have a look at my XSLT
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- [12:01:16] <NatBat>
so is there any way to distinguish that one url belongs to the vcard and one to to the event?
- [12:01:24] <drewinthehead>
Apple iCal.app seems to take the last URL it finds when importing
- [12:02:28] <NatBat>
so iCal gets the event ok?
- [12:02:28] <briansuda>
NatBat, the way you distinguish is ORDERING
- [12:02:28] <briansuda>
vevent will pull the FIRST it finds
- [12:02:28] <briansuda>
so just make sure that one is before the one for the vcard
- [12:03:04] <NatBat>
oh right, thanks
- [12:03:14] <briansuda>
well, i am going to fix my XSLT right now, and in doing so, your output will be "more correct" and then iCal will get the wrong one (i think)
- [12:04:52] <drewinthehead>
no, i think it'll get the right one then ... it's getting the one from the vcard at the moment
- [12:05:02] <keri-henare>
?def keri-henare is Keri Henare, New Zealand web standards fan living in England [http://www.kerihenare.com/]
- [12:05:03] <jibot>
keri-henare is Keri Henare, New Zealand web standards fan living in England [http://www.kerihenare.com/]
- [12:05:22] <briansuda>
the vcard one is first, the google link
- [12:05:26] <briansuda>
that is inside of a vevent
- [12:05:38] <NatBat>
ok I have re-orded the URL's so the one for the event appears first now
- [12:05:49] <briansuda>
so when i ask for event data, X2V will pull the first URL it finds, in that case it would have been the google link...
- [12:06:00] <briansuda>
great NatBat, let me upload and test
- [12:06:39] <NatBat>
thanks
- [12:10:14] <briansuda>
ok, this is better: http://suda.co.uk/projects/X2V/get-vcal.php?uri=http%3A//rm3-ndcs.torchboxapps.com/whats_on/other_events/gocarting.html
- [12:11:36] <briansuda>
the new XSLT file has preliminary support for hToDo as well, so if you follow the same format as vevent for vtodo, then it SHOULD extract VTODOs for iCal as well - it hasn't been tested much yet
- [12:12:10] <NatBat>
thank you,
- [12:13:45] <NatBat>
Evolution still doesnt like downloading the event, but i feel thats probably just a problem with my install of evolution :) - just checking on outlook
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- [12:20:30] <briansuda>
if you find any quirks with Evolution/Outlook, please document them here: http://microformats.org/wiki/icalendar-implementations
- [12:22:00] <NatBat>
Ok, still a bit of a problem I think, iCal works perfectly, outlook is a little confused about lunar appointments,
- [12:22:13] <NatBat>
Error message: " Cannot Import vCalendar file. This error can appear if you have attempted to save a recurring Lunar appointment in iCalendar format.
- [12:22:13] <NatBat>
To avoid this error, set the appointment option to Gregorian instead of Lunar."
- [12:22:32] <NatBat>
Is this something I should have set somewhere in the event
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- [12:24:07] <tommorris>
NatBat: http://jeremy.zawodny.com/blog/archives/007710.html
- [12:24:10] <briansuda>
instead of double-clicking/draging to Outlook, try importing - we've encountered this problem before - i can't remember the fix.
- [12:24:13] <briansuda>
Ah, it looks like "Requires UID, DTSTAMP, and METHOD"
- [12:24:42] <NatBat>
I have also tried importing it, it had the same error
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- [12:24:43] <jibot>
Cloud_ is Cloud
- [12:24:49] <keri-henare>
briansuda: any future plans to open-source X2V ?
- [12:24:57] <briansuda>
it is, hg.microformats.org
- [12:25:38] <NatBat>
thanks briansuda, I shall check the wiki for how to use UID, DTSTAMP and METHOD
- [12:25:51] <tommorris>
W3C Open Source License
- [12:25:51] <briansuda>
METHOD you get for free,
- [12:25:54] <McNulty>
METHOD is in there already, NatBat
- [12:26:01] <NatBat>
oh ok
- [12:26:13] <NatBat>
so I just need UID and DTSTAMP
- [12:26:13] <briansuda>
you can double-up dtstart and dtstamp class="dtstart dtstamp"
- [12:26:23] <briansuda>
UID just needs to be something unique
- [12:26:38] <briansuda>
if your case there is only one event, so you COULD do class="summary uid"
- [12:26:46] <briansuda>
or better class="url uid"
- [12:26:50] <NatBat>
ok, and that will stop it thinking it is a lunar event?
- [12:27:02] <briansuda>
the summary is more likely to change than the url
- [12:27:11] <briansuda>
I THINK that fixes the lunar issue?
- [12:27:17] <keri-henare>
don't suppose that happened in the last 5 months?
- [12:28:05] <McNulty>
The 'lunar event' thing is just a bad error message. It's outlook's default 'I'm confused' message it seems
- [12:28:36] <NatBat>
heh ok Ill try that and test it again
- [12:31:51] <NatBat>
that works perfectly!
- [12:32:12] <briansuda>
what about in Evolution?
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- [12:34:13] <McNulty>
brian - is there any way of changing the Version that X2V outputs?
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- [12:36:18] <NatBat>
well it works great in iCal and Outlook, evolution still crashes but I am not sure if this is a problem with evolution though since I dont use it generally,
- [12:36:28] <McNulty>
briansuda - is it possible to change the VERSION number somehow?
- [12:36:44] <briansuda>
version Number where?
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- [12:37:28] <McNulty>
in the resultant iCal
- [12:38:07] <McNulty>
Just reading the compat. notes and Outlook seems a lot more forgiving for iCal1.0
- [12:39:12] <briansuda>
you mean VERSION:2.0 in the VCALENDAR output or PRODID:-//suda.co.uk//X2V 0.8.3.1 (BETA)//EN
- [12:39:22] <McNulty>
I mean VERSION:2.0
- [12:40:53] <briansuda>
it should be in the output already
- [12:42:14] <McNulty>
is it possible to change the VERSION number somehow?
- [12:42:19] <McNulty>
i.e. to VERSION:1.0
- [12:42:39] <McNulty>
I don't mean globally, I mean as a param or something
- [12:42:59] <briansuda>
gotcha... maybe, maybe not?
- [12:43:18] <McNulty>
Outlook seems more forgiving of 1.0 imports, is why I ask. I dunno what the downside(s) might be
- [12:43:39] <briansuda>
I have to look back, but i THINK if you switch to VERSION 1.0, then you need to do lots of other things too? like DTSTART:TYPE=DATE-TIME;20061106
- [12:44:11] <McNulty>
Forget it then :-)
- [12:44:39] <briansuda>
well, the easiest thing to do, is open the current output in a text-editor, change it to version 1.0 and see if it still works cleanly
- [12:45:10] <McNulty>
I don't actually have outlook
- [12:45:22] <McNulty>
I'm just a busybody
- [12:45:51] <briansuda>
i don't have it either
- [12:46:09] <McNulty>
Maybe you could just generate those missing fields...
- [12:46:25] <McNulty>
Is DTSTAMP = DTSTART reasonable, you think?
- [12:46:47] <McNulty>
and you could presumably generate a UID... somehow?
- [12:47:34] <briansuda>
well, DTSTAMP and UID are NOT required fields in vCal, ONLY for outlook
- [12:48:08] <McNulty>
hm, sure.
- [12:49:25] <briansuda>
there are also like 4 different versions of Outlook, so i don't know which are actually effected
- [12:49:49] <briansuda>
PLUS, with Microsoft's new Live Writter, outputting hCal, they eventually will have to "eat their own dog food" and fix something
- [12:49:51] <McNulty>
Yeah that's fair enough.
- [12:53:37] <kapowaz>
what makes you think that the live team having used microformats that will motivate the outlook team to fix parsing of said formats?
- [12:54:06] <kapowaz>
including microformats in your published content has nearly zero cost
- [12:54:19] <kapowaz>
fixing your software's parsers to work with them is another matter entirely
- [12:54:43] <briansuda>
Outlook is already broke, they don't follow the RFC rules
- [12:54:49] <briansuda>
i don't know that they will fix it
- [12:55:13] <briansuda>
but if Live Writer/Clipboard takes off, and they are producing VALID ics files, which their own software can't import
- [12:55:27] <kapowaz>
well, maybe in a couple of years when microformats have the same sort of buzz to them outside of a core of developers/evangelists, something like RSS does today, maybe then they'll take notice
- [12:55:46] <McNulty>
briansuda - I'd assume there'll be an MS parser that produces non-standard ics...
- [12:55:48] <briansuda>
then there will eventually be a trade-off between either re-writting clipboard/write to output UID/DTSTAMP and document all of this, or fix Outlook
- [12:56:01] <kapowaz>
but is the primary function of those sites to public microformats, or is that merely a nice bonus
- [12:57:53] <mfbot>
[[hcard-fr]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-fr&diff=0&oldid=10040 * KraChot * (+448) Exemples -
- [12:58:15] <briansuda>
i think they are wanting to publish, Live Clipboard data, which uses microformats
- [12:58:37] <briansuda>
i don't know their master-plan (maybe they don't either?)
- [12:58:39] <mfbot>
[[hcard-fr]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-fr&diff=0&oldid=10041 * KraChot * (-448) Exemples -
- [12:58:50] <kapowaz>
heh, yeah
- [12:58:56] <mfbot>
[[hcard-fr]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-fr&diff=0&oldid=10042 * KraChot * (+448) Nouveaux Exemples -
- [12:59:26] <kapowaz>
that's certainly one vibe I've picked up on though, you don't necessarily have to have a plan for using microformats; just put the data there in that format and let others come up with the ideas.
- [12:59:36] <kapowaz>
and using them in a 'guerilla' fashion seems to be taking off
- [12:59:59] <kapowaz>
I guess maybe the live team have sanctioned their usage, but in a lot of places it seems they're being used by clued-up developers rather than because of some corporate policy
- [13:00:32] <briansuda>
maybe, maybe not - Ray Ozzie seems to be behind alot of that and he is both
- [13:00:33] <Phae>
It's true. I never go "Would you like some formats with that?"
- [13:00:36] <Phae>
I just add them.
- [13:01:03] <kapowaz>
he's the leader of the live team?
- [13:01:18] <kapowaz>
I seem to recall reading that they're very different to the usual MS ethos
- [13:01:23] <briansuda>
he'll be CFO in another year or two
- [13:01:35] <briansuda>
CTO
- [13:01:40] <kapowaz>
not just in terms of using agile processes but the whole 'publish now and fix it later' thing
- [13:01:50] <kapowaz>
like 37signals' getting real
- [13:03:45] <kapowaz>
I tell ya, Wong Kie for lunch really does fix the monday blues.
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csarven is Sarven Capadisli and can be found online at http://www.csarven.ca
- [13:11:49] <McNulty>
It's 'wong kei' ;-P
- [13:18:13] <kapowaz>
it's wonky
- [13:18:18] <kapowaz>
yes, that's the one.
- [13:18:25] <kapowaz>
but anyway
- [13:18:29] <kapowaz>
my lips are now burning. mmm.
- [13:20:45] <McNulty>
you can get a cream for that...
- [13:24:02] <kapowaz>
heh.
- [13:24:12] <kapowaz>
I don't suppose anybody here is a Prototype guru?
- [13:24:20] <kapowaz>
the #prototype channel is, as usual, dead as a duck
- [13:24:28] <kapowaz>
a Wong Kei duck, that is
- [13:24:41] <kapowaz>
dead, cooked twice and served with a delicious gravy.
- [13:25:06] <kapowaz>
I'm wondering just what the scope of getElementsByTagName is
- [13:25:30] <McNulty>
I'd assume it's the document
- [13:25:41] <McNulty>
or if you do foo.getElementsByTagName it's that element
- [13:25:48] <kapowaz>
say for instance you did $('someunorderedlist').getElementsByTagName('li'), and your LIs contained other unordered lists... would it return only the highest level? or the children too?
- [13:25:50] <McNulty>
I don't think that's a prototype question ;-)
- [13:26:03] <McNulty>
er, pass
- [13:26:10] <McNulty>
It'll return the children
- [13:26:12] <trovster>
$('someunorderedlist li') ?
- [13:26:13] <kapowaz>
true, but asking it on #javascript means having to pass their tests about whether or not I even understand basic JS syntax first, too
- [13:26:14] <McNulty>
all children
- [13:26:37] <McNulty>
i.e. it'll return all the <li> regardless of nesting
- [13:26:41] <kapowaz>
bum.
- [13:28:36] <kapowaz>
it would be nice if you could specify the depth of nesting you want to cover
- [13:29:24] <McNulty>
you could always look at the results' parents?
- [13:29:28] <McNulty>
Or use a more specific Xpath
- [13:32:02] <kapowaz>
the result's parent class might be an idea
- [13:33:51] <kapowaz>
that works nicely
- [13:34:08] <kapowaz>
now I have to find out why Behaviour is failing to work on a link
- [13:34:51] <McNulty>
I presume you could do an Xpath of '/li' and that'd catch it
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- [13:40:48] <briansuda>
XPATH is pretty easy, it is XSLT that has the logic
- [13:41:06] <briansuda>
XPATH is similar to CSS you can only select nodes
- [13:41:14] <McNulty>
briansuda - I believe you can select nodes in JS using Xpaths...
- [13:41:21] <McNulty>
from a node's subtree
- [13:41:45] <briansuda>
i think so, but there are different functions for different browsers, or not everything is supported
- [13:42:00] <briansuda>
prototype does a pretty good job of XPATH support
- [13:42:37] <briansuda>
XPATH is how Live Clipboard JS works for placing data back into the page (it has been awhile since i looked at the code)
- [13:42:57] <McNulty>
I've stayed away from JS mostly... I was scarred by having to do loads of DHTML about 8 years ago ;-)
- [13:44:39] <McNulty>
Hey brian, how does X2V handle PHOTO in vcards?
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- [13:44:57] <McNulty>
Will it only import data: urls?
- [13:45:06] <briansuda>
it is just a BLOB Property like KEY and SOUND
- [13:45:19] <briansuda>
it will use <img src/> and get the @src url
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not many addressbooks support URLS, so i also coded-up support for data URI, but it can just juse URLs as well
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ah right
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So it'll import it as a URL, and it's up to the addressbook app to sort that out
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I may investigate it
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what I need to do now is work out how to selectively remove a node from an HTMLElementList
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McNulty, correct a URL is valid, but it is up-to the importing app to decide what to do
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tanks
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er, thanks
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anybody know, is there a DOM method for removing an element from a list of elements? I don't see any obvious way to do it.
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me.parentNode.removeChild(me); ?
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hmm, that sounds good
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although it doesn't appear to work
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possibly because 'me' in this case is being iterated
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so I'd be passing mything[i] to removeChild()
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although reading the docs for that it should work
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kapowaz - if you're i++ing
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bear in mind that you shouldn't i++ if you remove a node
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(probably)
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actually, I don't think this will work at all anyway
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removeChild is for removing from the DOM
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I don't want to remove it from the DOM at all, only from the HTMLElementList that I've extracted from the DOM
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anybody know Kevin Lawver's email addy? likely to just be kevin@lawver.net? i can't find it written anywhere
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he has an AIM profile page, is there no way to contact him on there?
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i saw a myspace-esque page and ran screaming?
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he
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+h
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i couldn't see anything, maybe you need an account first. I just sent him FlickrMail
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Night All! (idle)
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afternoon :)
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well I'm less than enthused with IE7 so far.
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you'd think after 5 years.... they'd get it right :)
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good morning Mike and Brian
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hello tantek
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hey everyone
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is there anyone around who works at last.fm?
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- [19:22:01] <kapowaz>
julianstahnke does
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but I bet he's gone home
- [19:22:13] <julianstahnke>
no
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aha!
- [19:22:16] <julianstahnke>
still here
- [19:22:18] <kapowaz>
heh
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kingryan: hi, I work for last.fm
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hi julianstahnke
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so I noticed you guys started publishing microformats
- [19:23:36] <julianstahnke>
yup
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audioscrobbler.net/data/microformats/
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would you guys be interested in pinging pingerati.net?
- [19:23:54] <julianstahnke>
yes
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would you be interested in receiving pings?
- [19:24:11] <julianstahnke>
what does that mean?
- [19:24:39] <kingryan>
we resend the pings we receive to others (like eventful.com)
- [19:25:13] <julianstahnke>
so we get pinged when eventful.com adds an event?
- [19:25:16] <kingryan>
it's only useful if you're indexing stuff
- [19:25:18] <kingryan>
yeah
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and they get pinged when you add an event
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let me talk to some back-end devs about that ;)
- [19:26:04] <kingryan>
awesome
- [19:26:15] <kingryan>
you can have them email me if they have any questions
- [19:26:46] <julianstahnke>
what's your email then?
- [19:27:21] <kingryan>
ryan@technorati.com
- [19:27:34] <julianstahnke>
cheers
- [19:30:40] <julianstahnke>
how real-time is pingerati?
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or the ping relfection?
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reflection*
- [19:31:09] <julianstahnke>
I just pinged it with the bookmarklet and am eagerly reloading to see the event I pinged ;)
- [19:31:49] <kingryan>
ah, that
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well, that may be too fast :D
- [19:32:05] * kingryan needs to add some delay
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kingryan: sometimes we import events from feeds and then there'd be like 5000 ping at once ... would that be fine?
- [19:37:30] <kingryan>
sure, we need some load testing :D
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depends on what you mean by "at once" :)
- [19:38:52] <julianstahnke>
what would be a maximum per second or minute?
- [19:39:05] <julianstahnke>
because we import them as fast as we can
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ah, don't worry about us
- [19:39:21] <kingryan>
we can take it (or we soon will be able to :D)
- [19:39:47] <julianstahnke>
oh, that sounds promising
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- [19:40:07] <kingryan>
we have a little bit of experience with receiving lots of pings :D
- [19:40:26] <julianstahnke>
If I may ask, when will the microformats stuff get promoted out of the kitchen? ;)
- [19:40:34] <julianstahnke>
oh, what happened?
- [19:41:13] <kingryan>
julianstahnke: not sure, but we're working on it
- [19:41:40] <julianstahnke>
oh, steve@last.fm (the guy who coded the events stuff) says he'll drop you a mail once we start pinging you. should be sometime this week
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thanks julianstahnke
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with all the various social bookmarking sites (ma.gnolia.com, del.icio.us, etc.) is there which marks up a 'bookmark' so to speak?
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not yet; we are working on that as part of the attenion efforts
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xFolk
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which ma.gnolia.com already supports
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[[rest/forms-examples-fr]] MN http://microformats.org/wiki/rest/forms-examples-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+10662)
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[[rest/forms-examples-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=rest/forms-examples-fr&diff=0&oldid=10067 * ChristopheDucamp * (+18)
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[[rest-examples-fr]] MN http://microformats.org/wiki/rest-examples-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+30)
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[[rest/examples-fr]] MN http://microformats.org/wiki/rest/examples-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+2695)
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[[rest-brainstorming-fr]] MN http://microformats.org/wiki/rest-brainstorming-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+35)
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[[rest/brainstorming-fr]] MN http://microformats.org/wiki/rest/brainstorming-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+5529) à traduire par des spécialistes
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attention efforts?
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ping
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tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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[[currency-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=currency-fr&diff=0&oldid=10069 * ChristopheDucamp * (+4)
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[[currency-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=currency-fr&diff=0&oldid=10070 * ChristopheDucamp * (-7)
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[[luna-fr]] MN http://microformats.org/wiki/luna-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+944)
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[[luna-brainstorming-fr]] MN http://microformats.org/wiki/luna-brainstorming-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+4716)
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[[luna-brainstorming-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=luna-brainstorming-fr&diff=0&oldid=10071 * ChristopheDucamp * (-1) AndrewTurner -
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[[luna-brainstorming-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=luna-brainstorming-fr&diff=0&oldid=10072 * ChristopheDucamp * (-3) Proposition -
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danja is Danny Ayers, http://dannyayers.com
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[[mars-fr]] MN http://microformats.org/wiki/mars-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+1209)
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[[mars-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=mars-fr&diff=0&oldid=10073 * ChristopheDucamp * (+12)
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[[mars-examples-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=mars-examples-fr&diff=0&oldid=10074 * ChristopheDucamp * (+641)
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[[mars-examples-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=mars-examples-fr&diff=0&oldid=10075 * ChristopheDucamp * (-29)
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[[luna-examples-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=luna-examples-fr&diff=0&oldid=10076 * ChristopheDucamp * (+180)
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[[rel-home-fr]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=rel-home-fr&diff=0&oldid=10077 * ChristopheDucamp * (+52) Implémentations - cmSiteNavigation Toolbar
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[[rel-home-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=rel-home-fr&diff=0&oldid=10078 * ChristopheDucamp * (+87) Implémentations -
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Rinoa is the ultimate evil
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what is jibot talking about?
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life and death
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jibot gets confused about which rooms it's in
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it announces you in the first room you join
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evening kingryan
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hi Frederic
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ah right
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cgriego is Chris Griego (-06:00) and a front-end architect with rd2inc.com
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drewinthehead is the author of hKit and a developer for Yahoo! Europe
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[[hcard]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard&diff=0&oldid=10079 * Tantek * (+517) added UTF8 Examples in the Wild section
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BenWard is Ben Ward of http://ben-ward.co.uk ( 0000/ 0100 GMT)
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- [23:54:08] <BenWard>
tantek: So shall we just pretend that we said something timeless, witty and unrepeatable during the unlogged net-split? Will people buy that?at
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- [23:55:35] <jibot>
pnhChris is Chris Casciano, blogs at http://placenamehere.com/ , and a member of the Web Standards Project.
- [23:56:21] <tantek>
BenWard, indeed - I can't believe we figured out what the 42 microformats should be in such a short period of time - too bad we didn't have mflogbot during the netsplit and thus the answer is lost to us forever...
- [23:57:22] <keri-henare>
we inappropriately touched jibot while you were split
- [23:58:13] <BenWard>
tantek: I still think hCandy would've been valid for number 23. I _know_ it seems to exclude chocolate products at first glance but…
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