IRC Log for #microformats on 2006-12-18

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  24. [03:16:32] <jibot> sreynen is Scott Reynen, who makes things at makedatamakesense.com
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  47. [07:36:27] <jibot> Ronnos is Ron Kok, a friendly student Communication and Multimedia Design in The Netherlands
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  49. [07:38:47] <jibot> bengee is Benjamin Nowack (http://bnode.org/)
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  57. [09:04:40] <jibot> trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and helps with www.multipack.co.uk
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  62. [10:00:44] <jibot> BenWard is Ben Ward of http://ben-ward.co.uk ( 0000/ 0100 GMT)
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  68. [10:19:29] <jibot> drewinthehead is the author of hKit and a developer for Yahoo! Europe
  69. [10:19:34] <drewinthehead> greetings
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  74. [11:42:40] <jibot> Charl is Charl van Niekerk and writes about standards at http://standards.za.net/
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  78. [11:46:28] <jibot> BenWard is Ben Ward of http://ben-ward.co.uk ( 0000/ 0100 GMT)
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  80. [11:51:12] <jibot> julianstahnke is Julian Stahnke and works for last.fm and implements microformats wherever he can
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  83. [12:18:40] <jibot> csarven is Sarven Capadisli and can be found online at http://www.csarven.ca
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  89. [13:02:48] <jibot> sreynen is Scott Reynen, who makes things at makedatamakesense.com
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  91. [13:20:01] <jibot> drewinthehead is the author of hKit and a developer for Yahoo! Europe
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  100. [13:40:22] <jibot> briansuda is brian suda of http://suda.co.uk and is at (-0000 GMT) and is author of "Using Microformats" for O'Reilly [http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/microformats/]
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  102. [14:00:37] <jibot> Mr_Elusive is not a programmer from id but makes his home at http://eswat.ca
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  107. [14:23:57] <jibot> sreynen is Scott Reynen, who makes things at makedatamakesense.com
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  109. [14:36:11] <mfbot> [[hcalendar]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar&diff=0&oldid=11599 * MarkTranchant * (+155) IE abbr support
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  115. [14:58:11] <jibot> Ronnos is Ron Kok, a friendly student Communication and Multimedia Design in The Netherlands
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  117. [15:06:23] <jibot> ryanlowe is Ryan Lowe, http://www.fanconcert.com
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  120. [15:57:06] <jibot> cgriego is Chris Griego (-06:00) and a front-end architect with rd2inc.com
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  123. [16:01:40] <jibot> Whafro is M. Jackson Wilkinson, a designer/developer for Grassroots Enterprise in Washington, DC
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  129. [16:11:48] <jibot> pnhChris is Chris Casciano, blogs at http://placenamehere.com/ , and a member of the Web Standards Project.
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  135. [17:10:56] <mfbot> [[citation-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=11600 * RCanine * (+921) Examples -
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  143. [17:35:32] <Ronnos> i'm wondering which type i should use for a company hcard phonenumber
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  145. [17:39:33] <Ronnos> if it was an hcard for a person working for a company, than work is seems logical to me.
  146. [17:40:19] <Ronnos> but is the telephone in a company at home or at the office :S
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  154. [17:48:39] <mfbot> [[hcalendar-fr]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar-fr&diff=0&oldid=11602 * ChristopheDucamp * (-14022) Exemples dans la jungle - moved to hcalendar-examples-in-wild-fr
  155. [17:49:35] <mfbot> [[hcalendar-examples-in-wild-fr]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/hcalendar-examples-in-wild-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+14126) exemples dans la jungle importés de hCalendar
  156. [17:54:32] <mfbot> [[hcalendar-fr]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar-fr&diff=0&oldid=11603 * ChristopheDucamp * (+116) Exemples avec quelques problèmes - refactoring examples in wild
  157. [17:55:03] <mfbot> [[hcalendar-examples-in-wild-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar-examples-in-wild-fr&diff=0&oldid=11604 * ChristopheDucamp * (+251)
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  162. [18:16:20] <mfbot> [[Template:hcalendar-related-pages-fr]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/Template:hcalendar-related-pages-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+1786) creation / translation
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  165. [18:18:07] <mfbot> [[hcalendar-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar-fr&diff=0&oldid=11607 * ChristopheDucamp * (+1) Exemples dans la junge - typo
  166. [18:21:08] <mfbot> [[hcalendar-fr]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar-fr&diff=0&oldid=11608 * ChristopheDucamp * (-9592) implementations moved to a separate page
  167. [18:30:50] <mfbot> [[hcalendar-implementations-fr]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/hcalendar-implementations-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+10249) refactored
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  169. [18:31:16] <mfbot> [[hcalendar-implementations-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar-implementations-fr&diff=0&oldid=11609 * ChristopheDucamp * (-1) =Imminent -
  170. [18:33:17] <mfbot> [[hcalendar-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar-fr&diff=0&oldid=11610 * ChristopheDucamp * (+185) Principes de Design XHTML Sémantique -
  171. [18:35:38] <mfbot> [[hcalendar-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar-fr&diff=0&oldid=11611 * ChristopheDucamp * (-1499) refactored
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  174. [18:40:35] <mfbot> [[hcalendar-authoring-fr]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar-authoring-fr&diff=0&oldid=11612 * ChristopheDucamp * (-158) {{hcalendar-related-pages-fr}}
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  178. [18:43:42] <jibot> sreynen is Scott Reynen, who makes things at makedatamakesense.com
  179. [18:44:11] <mfbot> [[hcalendar-faq-fr]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar-faq-fr&diff=0&oldid=11613 * ChristopheDucamp * (+53) {{hcalendar-related-pages-fr}}
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  212. [20:00:03] <monkinetic> ?def monkinetic is redmonk/Steve Ivy and can be found at http://redmonk.net
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  219. [20:02:23] <monkinetic> i'm working on vote-link icons... if i use a green "+1" for vote-for and a red "-1" for vote-against...
  220. [20:02:23] <monkinetic> any recommendations for what to put on a grey vote-abstain icon?
  221. [20:02:23] <kingryan> 0?
  222. [20:02:24] <jibot> BenWard is Ben Ward of http://ben-ward.co.uk ( 0000/ 0100 GMT)
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  224. [20:03:15] <BenWard> monkinetic: How about a "±" symbol? Or "~"?
  225. [20:03:28] <monkinetic> i did think of ~
  226. [20:03:52] <monkinetic> the +/- might be a bit busy
  227. [20:03:54] <monkinetic> for an icon
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  229. [20:04:42] <monkinetic> maybe ": /" ;)
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  236. [20:13:06] <bewest> kingryan: nice list posts
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  261. [20:57:16] <kingryan> bewest: thanks
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  264. [21:05:03] <JMulder> Evening, btw.
  265. [21:06:21] <kingryan> hi JMulder
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  272. [21:25:51] <BenWard> kingryan: Do you have a sec to check over + publish ‘This fortnight in microformats’?
  273. [21:26:01] <kingryan> sure
  274. [21:30:05] <BenWard> Thanks
  275. [21:31:06] <kingryan> looks good, publishing...
  276. [21:31:46] <kingryan> http://microformats.org/blog/2006/12/18/this-week-3/
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  278. [21:43:07] <BenWard> Ace. Cheers Ryan.
  279. [21:43:41] <BenWard> Not sure that I'll get one written over the Christmas weekend so I suspect it may be fortnightly for a bit…
  280. [21:43:50] <kingryan> that's fine
  281. [21:44:36] <kingryan> this *is* a volunteer effort :D
  282. [21:45:04] <Phae> heh
  283. [21:45:37] <BenWard> I'm just glad to be up to date with it again!
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  285. [21:46:25] <jibot> danja is Danny Ayers, http://dannyayers.com
  286. [21:49:24] <mfbot> [[implementations]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=implementations&diff=0&oldid=11656 * JesusCarrera * (+234) WP Themes -
  287. [21:51:13] <csarven> would it be appropriate to use `dtstamp` to indicate the launch date of a URL?
  288. [21:52:00] <kingryan> BenWard: perhaps you could get your collaborator to help
  289. [21:52:06] * kingryan glances at Phae
  290. [21:52:22] <Phae> heh. yah, i know. i'm utter rubbish. i blame work.
  291. [21:52:34] <kingryan> csarven: care to elaborate a bit more?
  292. [21:52:49] <Phae> I certainly will help if you like Ben - but i know that whole bit was your idea
  293. [21:53:10] <csarven> doing hresume, and under experience, i listed a company's URL
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  295. [21:54:00] <BenWard> Help would be good. Even if it's just tagging things in delicious to make it quicker to aggregate
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  297. [21:54:26] * Phae nods.
  298. [21:54:26] <kingryan> BenWard: you should add a reminder re:tagging to the bottom of each post
  299. [21:55:09] <BenWard> kingryan: There already is. Do you think it should be worded different?
  300. [21:55:50] * kingryan admits that he skipped over that paragraph
  301. [21:55:54] <BenWard> That's where most of the time goes really: I keep mailing list stuff flagged in mail.app, but then have to look up the Gmane item for that message to link to. Then a quick look through Technorati/tags/microformats (which is admittedly much easier when done weekly)
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  303. [21:56:27] * BenWard sentences kingryan to two weeks hard-labour and suggests microformat and list-archive article tagging :)
  304. [21:56:31] <kingryan> hmm, for the mailing list links, it'd be better to point at mf.org for the archives
  305. [21:56:41] <BenWard> I've been known to do both
  306. [21:56:54] <bewest> you guys using a tag for bloggable stuff?
  307. [21:56:56] <kingryan> I *wish* there were a way to put the archive URL in the mail message
  308. [21:57:06] <mfbot> [[implementations]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=implementations&diff=0&oldid=11657 * JesusCarrera * (-2) WP Themes -
  309. [21:57:12] <bewest> should we get a chump-like thing in here?
  310. [21:57:14] <BenWard> In fact, this weeks has both, because Gmanes spam protection removed some entries that were in the uf archive twice
  311. [21:57:15] <kingryan> bewest: for the fortnightly roundups, yes
  312. [21:57:17] <bewest> ala #swig?
  313. [21:57:28] <bewest> I like how swigbot has a delicious account
  314. [21:57:34] <kingryan> nice
  315. [21:57:36] <bewest> would be nice if we had something similar
  316. [21:57:42] <csarven> kingryan i am doing an hresume, and under an experience ive provided an URL. i would like to know if dtstamp is appropriate to indicate the date of launch instead of using dtstart-dtend
  317. [21:57:48] <BenWard> bewest: I personally tag things with ‘thisweekinmicroformats’ if I see something I think should be included.
  318. [21:58:13] <bewest> I always avoid tagging using time references
  319. [21:58:20] <bewest> because it creates a maintenance problem
  320. [21:58:21] <kingryan> csarven: off the top of my head that seems reasonable
  321. [21:58:29] <Phae> it's probably okay in that instance though
  322. [21:58:29] <bewest> especially since the date you tagged it is stored
  323. [21:58:34] <bewest> yeah, probably
  324. [21:58:34] <Phae> since it's a date that'll never change
  325. [21:58:45] <bewest> wait
  326. [21:58:52] <bewest> "thisweek" changes every week
  327. [21:59:00] <bewest> doesn't it?
  328. [21:59:04] <Phae> oh. wait. we're crossing conversations.
  329. [21:59:09] <Phae> i'm talking about csarven's query.
  330. [21:59:10] <BenWard> Ah, indeed. But I use that tag because that's what the posts are called.
  331. [21:59:19] <bewest> yeah
  332. [21:59:20] <csarven> dtstamp shows as `Booked` in Tails
  333. [21:59:24] <Phae> heh
  334. [22:00:02] <bewest> can one of the admins vet the list of admins I noted in uf-admin?
  335. [22:00:11] <Phae> what
  336. [22:00:24] <bewest> I wanted to make sure the list of admins is correct
  337. [22:00:30] <bewest> so I wrote the list on the uf-admin list
  338. [22:00:35] <Phae> oh wait
  339. [22:00:36] <bewest> but no one has confirmed or denied it
  340. [22:00:36] <Phae> yeah
  341. [22:01:00] <kingryan> bewest: can't you see the mailing list membership?
  342. [22:01:08] <bewest> oh yeah, I tried but couldn't get in
  343. [22:01:14] <bewest> forgot my password evidently
  344. [22:01:18] <Phae> I think that's correct. Although there's lots of people subbed to mf-admin that aren't active
  345. [22:01:25] * kingryan has 6 mf-admin messages flagged for response
  346. [22:01:28] <Phae> well, not as active as the people you listed
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  349. [22:11:34] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  351. [22:18:49] <monkinetic> i'd like some folk's thoughts on: http://redmonk.net/archives/2006/12/18/testing-votelinks/
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  353. [22:19:15] <monkinetic> it's a basic jquery-based implementation
  354. [22:21:52] <mfbot> [[User:SteveIvy]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/User:SteveIvy * SteveIvy * (+189) make the page
  355. [22:22:13] <mfbot> [[User:SteveIvy]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:SteveIvy&diff=0&oldid=11658 * SteveIvy * (-1) Steve Ivy = -
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  360. [22:31:09] <jibot> drewinthehead is the author of hKit and a developer for Yahoo! Europe
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  362. [22:37:42] <bewest> monkinetic: it's a neat idea
  363. [22:37:48] <bewest> monkinetic: I think it should be more visible though
  364. [22:37:58] <bewest> or something
  365. [22:38:08] <monkinetic> visisble as in before mouse-over
  366. [22:38:09] <monkinetic> >
  367. [22:38:10] <monkinetic> ?
  368. [22:38:26] <bewest> not sure
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  370. [22:38:54] <bewest> not sure how i feel about the whole thing, actually
  371. [22:39:00] <monkinetic> not sure how to do it in a non-obtrusive way
  372. [22:39:06] <bewest> what happens when a crawler/spider runs over these things?
  373. [22:39:36] <kingryan> monkinetic: what do I need to see it work? I'm not seeing anything on that page
  374. [22:40:11] <bewest> kingryan: you have to guess which links to mouse over
  375. [22:40:20] <bewest> monkinetic: that's the problem: there's no affordance
  376. [22:40:31] <bewest> need to give users a clue-scent
  377. [22:40:35] <csarven> is there a BNF for all the mf's?
  378. [22:40:36] <monkinetic> bewest: yeah i know
  379. [22:41:08] <kingryan> csarven: http://www.w3.org/TR/html/
  380. [22:41:10] <mfbot> [[vote-links]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=vote-links&diff=0&oldid=11659 * SteveIvy * (+154) Implementations -
  381. [22:41:23] <bewest> what happens when a bot runs over these though?
  382. [22:41:26] * kingryan has moused over all of the links
  383. [22:41:37] <monkinetic> if it's technorati, it indexes the vote-link
  384. [22:42:11] <csarven> kingryan eh? ex. would like to know if hresume can have more then one vcard?
  385. [22:42:35] <csarven> Tails seems to take the last vcard on the page as the 'main' vcard for the resume
  386. [22:42:39] <kingryan> csarven: you want a grammar for hresume?
  387. [22:42:53] <csarven> which is not necessarily the author's vcard
  388. [22:43:03] <csarven> kingryan yes.. for all MFs would be nice :)
  389. [22:43:29] <kingryan> well, the closest thing we have is xmdp
  390. [22:43:34] <csarven> wiki lists the format, however it does not mention if it can have one or more vcards for instance
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  392. [22:44:07] <kingryan> well, it should state that there can be an hcard for each 'experience' section
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  394. [22:45:14] <tantek> more than can be - is
  395. [22:45:21] <tantek> at least a SHOULD
  396. [22:45:23] <tantek> more like a MUST
  397. [22:46:09] <csarven> kingryan it does mention that hcard can be used, however like i said.. either the format is not clear or Tails is not implementing it correctly
  398. [22:46:37] <kingryan> I'm guessing it's a little bit of both
  399. [22:46:46] <csarven> heh
  400. [22:47:22] <tantek> perhaps Tails doesn't support hResume yet?
  401. [22:47:27] <csarven> it does
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  403. [22:48:17] <kingryan> hResume is certainly underspecified in a few places
  404. [22:48:23] * kingryan has many open issues to review
  405. [22:49:32] <csarven> i can mention it here http://code.google.com/p/tails-firefox-extension/issues/list
  406. [22:49:59] <kingryan> that'd be good csarven
  407. [22:50:09] <kingryan> btw, is the tail author ever around here? (or mf-dev?)
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  409. [22:50:54] <csarven> a way around this (vcard of the author showing properly for hresume) at this time would be to use the vcard last (after all the experiences)
  410. [22:52:02] <csarven> in the meantime, im curious.. why isn't there a BNF for instance for the MFs?
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  412. [22:52:43] <csarven> that will allow the extension or application developers to write a proper parser. yes/no?
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  416. [23:04:27] <csarven> i dont think the Tails hresume can be fixed until the vcard usage becomes clear in hresume
  417. [23:04:46] <tantek> csarven - that's what <address> is for
  418. [23:04:50] <tantek> the contact info for the page
  419. [23:04:59] <tantek> which is the hCard of the author
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  421. [23:05:27] <tantek> csarven - why should there be a BNF for instance for the MFs? work doesn't happen for no reason at all.
  422. [23:05:33] <tantek> the answer to why not is that it takes energy
  423. [23:05:44] <tantek> for anything
  424. [23:05:49] <tantek> and time
  425. [23:05:52] <tantek> and prioritization
  426. [23:06:02] <tantek> thus "why isn't there" is a poor question to ask
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  428. [23:07:01] <csarven> though, because it isn't there seems to cause confusion?
  429. [23:09:05] <csarven> do you mean that if address vcard is used, that should take precedence for hresume?
  430. [23:09:44] <csarven> my tests show that even if address vcard is used, the last vcard on page is displayed for hresume in Tails. in this case, then it is a defect
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