IRC Log for #microformats on 2006-12-18
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[[implementations]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=implementations&diff=0&oldid=11596 * StrategicPause * (+268)
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mfbot is a little bot kingryan put together with pieces from mediawiki to report on wiki changes and http://microformats.org/wiki/mfbot
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sreynen is Scott Reynen, who makes things at makedatamakesense.com
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[[geo-cheatsheet]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=geo-cheatsheet&diff=0&oldid=11597 * TaylorCowan * (+0) Notes -
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Atamido is Paul Bryson, http://orangeman.commo.de/
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Ronnos is Ron Kok, a friendly student Communication and Multimedia Design in The Netherlands
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bengee is Benjamin Nowack (http://bnode.org/)
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[[vcard-suggestions]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=vcard-suggestions&diff=0&oldid=11598 * JakeHo * (+1212)
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trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and helps with www.multipack.co.uk
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BenWard is Ben Ward of http://ben-ward.co.uk ( 0000/ 0100 GMT)
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drewinthehead is the author of hKit and a developer for Yahoo! Europe
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greetings
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Charl is Charl van Niekerk and writes about standards at http://standards.za.net/
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BenWard is Ben Ward of http://ben-ward.co.uk ( 0000/ 0100 GMT)
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julianstahnke is Julian Stahnke and works for last.fm and implements microformats wherever he can
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csarven is Sarven Capadisli and can be found online at http://www.csarven.ca
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sreynen is Scott Reynen, who makes things at makedatamakesense.com
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drewinthehead is the author of hKit and a developer for Yahoo! Europe
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briansuda is brian suda of http://suda.co.uk and is at (-0000 GMT) and is author of "Using Microformats" for O'Reilly [http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/microformats/]
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Mr_Elusive is not a programmer from id but makes his home at http://eswat.ca
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sreynen is Scott Reynen, who makes things at makedatamakesense.com
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[[hcalendar]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar&diff=0&oldid=11599 * MarkTranchant * (+155) IE abbr support
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markp is Mark Pilgrim
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Ronnos is Ron Kok, a friendly student Communication and Multimedia Design in The Netherlands
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ryanlowe is Ryan Lowe, http://www.fanconcert.com
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cgriego is Chris Griego (-06:00) and a front-end architect with rd2inc.com
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Whafro is M. Jackson Wilkinson, a designer/developer for Grassroots Enterprise in Washington, DC
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pnhChris is Chris Casciano, blogs at http://placenamehere.com/ , and a member of the Web Standards Project.
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[[citation-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=11600 * RCanine * (+921) Examples -
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[[citation-brainstorming]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=11601 * RCanine * (-2) Working straw schema -
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i'm wondering which type i should use for a company hcard phonenumber
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if it was an hcard for a person working for a company, than work is seems logical to me.
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but is the telephone in a company at home or at the office :S
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[[hcalendar-fr]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar-fr&diff=0&oldid=11602 * ChristopheDucamp * (-14022) Exemples dans la jungle - moved to hcalendar-examples-in-wild-fr
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[[hcalendar-examples-in-wild-fr]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/hcalendar-examples-in-wild-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+14126) exemples dans la jungle importés de hCalendar
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[[hcalendar-fr]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar-fr&diff=0&oldid=11603 * ChristopheDucamp * (+116) Exemples avec quelques problèmes - refactoring examples in wild
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[[hcalendar-examples-in-wild-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar-examples-in-wild-fr&diff=0&oldid=11604 * ChristopheDucamp * (+251)
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[[hcalendar-examples-in-wild-fr]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar-examples-in-wild-fr&diff=0&oldid=11605 * ChristopheDucamp * (+4381) refactored
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[[Template:hcalendar-related-pages-fr]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/Template:hcalendar-related-pages-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+1786) creation / translation
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[[Template:hcalendar-related-pages-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Template:hcalendar-related-pages-fr&diff=0&oldid=11606 * ChristopheDucamp * (+3)
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[[hcalendar-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar-fr&diff=0&oldid=11607 * ChristopheDucamp * (+1) Exemples dans la junge - typo
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[[hcalendar-fr]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar-fr&diff=0&oldid=11608 * ChristopheDucamp * (-9592) implementations moved to a separate page
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[[hcalendar-implementations-fr]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/hcalendar-implementations-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+10249) refactored
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[[hcalendar-implementations-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar-implementations-fr&diff=0&oldid=11609 * ChristopheDucamp * (-1) =Imminent -
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[[hcalendar-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar-fr&diff=0&oldid=11610 * ChristopheDucamp * (+185) Principes de Design XHTML Sémantique -
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[[hcalendar-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar-fr&diff=0&oldid=11611 * ChristopheDucamp * (-1499) refactored
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[[hcalendar-cheatsheet-fr]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/hcalendar-cheatsheet-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+447) creation / translation
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[[hcalendar-authoring-fr]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar-authoring-fr&diff=0&oldid=11612 * ChristopheDucamp * (-158) {{hcalendar-related-pages-fr}}
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sreynen is Scott Reynen, who makes things at makedatamakesense.com
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[[hcalendar-faq-fr]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar-faq-fr&diff=0&oldid=11613 * ChristopheDucamp * (+53) {{hcalendar-related-pages-fr}}
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[[hcalendar-faq-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar-faq-fr&diff=0&oldid=11614 * ChristopheDucamp * (+20) {{hcalendar-related-pages-fr}}
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[[hcalendar-brainstorming-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar-brainstorming-fr&diff=0&oldid=11615 * ChristopheDucamp * (+46) Calendriers événements tabulaires -
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[[hcalendar-brainstorming-fr]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar-brainstorming-fr&diff=0&oldid=11616 * ChristopheDucamp * (+173) hCard locations - translated
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?def monkinetic is redmonk/Steve Ivy and can be found at http://redmonk.net
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i'm working on vote-link icons... if i use a green "+1" for vote-for and a red "-1" for vote-against...
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any recommendations for what to put on a grey vote-abstain icon?
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0?
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monkinetic: How about a "±" symbol? Or "~"?
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i did think of ~
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the +/- might be a bit busy
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for an icon
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maybe ": /" ;)
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kingryan: nice list posts
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bewest: thanks
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Evening, btw.
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hi JMulder
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- [21:25:51] <BenWard>
kingryan: Do you have a sec to check over + publish ‘This fortnight in microformats’?
- [21:26:01] <kingryan>
sure
- [21:30:05] <BenWard>
Thanks
- [21:31:06] <kingryan>
looks good, publishing...
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http://microformats.org/blog/2006/12/18/this-week-3/
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- [21:43:07] <BenWard>
Ace. Cheers Ryan.
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Not sure that I'll get one written over the Christmas weekend so I suspect it may be fortnightly for a bit…
- [21:43:50] <kingryan>
that's fine
- [21:44:36] <kingryan>
this *is* a volunteer effort :D
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heh
- [21:45:37] <BenWard>
I'm just glad to be up to date with it again!
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- [21:51:13] <csarven>
would it be appropriate to use `dtstamp` to indicate the launch date of a URL?
- [21:52:00] <kingryan>
BenWard: perhaps you could get your collaborator to help
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- [21:52:22] <Phae>
heh. yah, i know. i'm utter rubbish. i blame work.
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csarven: care to elaborate a bit more?
- [21:52:49] <Phae>
I certainly will help if you like Ben - but i know that whole bit was your idea
- [21:53:10] <csarven>
doing hresume, and under experience, i listed a company's URL
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- [21:54:00] <BenWard>
Help would be good. Even if it's just tagging things in delicious to make it quicker to aggregate
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- [21:54:26] <kingryan>
BenWard: you should add a reminder re:tagging to the bottom of each post
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kingryan: There already is. Do you think it should be worded different?
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- [21:55:54] <BenWard>
That's where most of the time goes really: I keep mailing list stuff flagged in mail.app, but then have to look up the Gmane item for that message to link to. Then a quick look through Technorati/tags/microformats (which is admittedly much easier when done weekly)
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- [21:56:27] * BenWard sentences kingryan to two weeks hard-labour and suggests microformat and list-archive article tagging :)
- [21:56:31] <kingryan>
hmm, for the mailing list links, it'd be better to point at mf.org for the archives
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I've been known to do both
- [21:56:54] <bewest>
you guys using a tag for bloggable stuff?
- [21:56:56] <kingryan>
I *wish* there were a way to put the archive URL in the mail message
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- [21:57:12] <bewest>
should we get a chump-like thing in here?
- [21:57:14] <BenWard>
In fact, this weeks has both, because Gmanes spam protection removed some entries that were in the uf archive twice
- [21:57:15] <kingryan>
bewest: for the fortnightly roundups, yes
- [21:57:17] <bewest>
ala #swig?
- [21:57:28] <bewest>
I like how swigbot has a delicious account
- [21:57:34] <kingryan>
nice
- [21:57:36] <bewest>
would be nice if we had something similar
- [21:57:42] <csarven>
kingryan i am doing an hresume, and under an experience ive provided an URL. i would like to know if dtstamp is appropriate to indicate the date of launch instead of using dtstart-dtend
- [21:57:48] <BenWard>
bewest: I personally tag things with ‘thisweekinmicroformats’ if I see something I think should be included.
- [21:58:13] <bewest>
I always avoid tagging using time references
- [21:58:20] <bewest>
because it creates a maintenance problem
- [21:58:21] <kingryan>
csarven: off the top of my head that seems reasonable
- [21:58:29] <Phae>
it's probably okay in that instance though
- [21:58:29] <bewest>
especially since the date you tagged it is stored
- [21:58:34] <bewest>
yeah, probably
- [21:58:34] <Phae>
since it's a date that'll never change
- [21:58:45] <bewest>
wait
- [21:58:52] <bewest>
"thisweek" changes every week
- [21:59:00] <bewest>
doesn't it?
- [21:59:04] <Phae>
oh. wait. we're crossing conversations.
- [21:59:09] <Phae>
i'm talking about csarven's query.
- [21:59:10] <BenWard>
Ah, indeed. But I use that tag because that's what the posts are called.
- [21:59:19] <bewest>
yeah
- [21:59:20] <csarven>
dtstamp shows as `Booked` in Tails
- [21:59:24] <Phae>
heh
- [22:00:02] <bewest>
can one of the admins vet the list of admins I noted in uf-admin?
- [22:00:11] <Phae>
what
- [22:00:24] <bewest>
I wanted to make sure the list of admins is correct
- [22:00:30] <bewest>
so I wrote the list on the uf-admin list
- [22:00:35] <Phae>
oh wait
- [22:00:36] <bewest>
but no one has confirmed or denied it
- [22:00:36] <Phae>
yeah
- [22:01:00] <kingryan>
bewest: can't you see the mailing list membership?
- [22:01:08] <bewest>
oh yeah, I tried but couldn't get in
- [22:01:14] <bewest>
forgot my password evidently
- [22:01:18] <Phae>
I think that's correct. Although there's lots of people subbed to mf-admin that aren't active
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- [22:01:28] <Phae>
well, not as active as the people you listed
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- [22:18:49] <monkinetic>
i'd like some folk's thoughts on: http://redmonk.net/archives/2006/12/18/testing-votelinks/
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- [22:19:15] <monkinetic>
it's a basic jquery-based implementation
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- [22:37:42] <bewest>
monkinetic: it's a neat idea
- [22:37:48] <bewest>
monkinetic: I think it should be more visible though
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or something
- [22:38:08] <monkinetic>
visisble as in before mouse-over
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>
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?
- [22:38:26] <bewest>
not sure
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- [22:38:54] <bewest>
not sure how i feel about the whole thing, actually
- [22:39:00] <monkinetic>
not sure how to do it in a non-obtrusive way
- [22:39:06] <bewest>
what happens when a crawler/spider runs over these things?
- [22:39:36] <kingryan>
monkinetic: what do I need to see it work? I'm not seeing anything on that page
- [22:40:11] <bewest>
kingryan: you have to guess which links to mouse over
- [22:40:20] <bewest>
monkinetic: that's the problem: there's no affordance
- [22:40:31] <bewest>
need to give users a clue-scent
- [22:40:35] <csarven>
is there a BNF for all the mf's?
- [22:40:36] <monkinetic>
bewest: yeah i know
- [22:41:08] <kingryan>
csarven: http://www.w3.org/TR/html/
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- [22:41:23] <bewest>
what happens when a bot runs over these though?
- [22:41:26] * kingryan has moused over all of the links
- [22:41:37] <monkinetic>
if it's technorati, it indexes the vote-link
- [22:42:11] <csarven>
kingryan eh? ex. would like to know if hresume can have more then one vcard?
- [22:42:35] <csarven>
Tails seems to take the last vcard on the page as the 'main' vcard for the resume
- [22:42:39] <kingryan>
csarven: you want a grammar for hresume?
- [22:42:53] <csarven>
which is not necessarily the author's vcard
- [22:43:03] <csarven>
kingryan yes.. for all MFs would be nice :)
- [22:43:29] <kingryan>
well, the closest thing we have is xmdp
- [22:43:34] <csarven>
wiki lists the format, however it does not mention if it can have one or more vcards for instance
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- [22:44:07] <kingryan>
well, it should state that there can be an hcard for each 'experience' section
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- [22:45:14] <tantek>
more than can be - is
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at least a SHOULD
- [22:45:23] <tantek>
more like a MUST
- [22:46:09] <csarven>
kingryan it does mention that hcard can be used, however like i said.. either the format is not clear or Tails is not implementing it correctly
- [22:46:37] <kingryan>
I'm guessing it's a little bit of both
- [22:46:46] <csarven>
heh
- [22:47:22] <tantek>
perhaps Tails doesn't support hResume yet?
- [22:47:27] <csarven>
it does
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- [22:48:17] <kingryan>
hResume is certainly underspecified in a few places
- [22:48:23] * kingryan has many open issues to review
- [22:49:32] <csarven>
i can mention it here http://code.google.com/p/tails-firefox-extension/issues/list
- [22:49:59] <kingryan>
that'd be good csarven
- [22:50:09] <kingryan>
btw, is the tail author ever around here? (or mf-dev?)
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- [22:50:54] <csarven>
a way around this (vcard of the author showing properly for hresume) at this time would be to use the vcard last (after all the experiences)
- [22:52:02] <csarven>
in the meantime, im curious.. why isn't there a BNF for instance for the MFs?
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- [22:52:43] <csarven>
that will allow the extension or application developers to write a proper parser. yes/no?
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- [23:04:27] <csarven>
i dont think the Tails hresume can be fixed until the vcard usage becomes clear in hresume
- [23:04:46] <tantek>
csarven - that's what <address> is for
- [23:04:50] <tantek>
the contact info for the page
- [23:04:59] <tantek>
which is the hCard of the author
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- [23:05:27] <tantek>
csarven - why should there be a BNF for instance for the MFs? work doesn't happen for no reason at all.
- [23:05:33] <tantek>
the answer to why not is that it takes energy
- [23:05:44] <tantek>
for anything
- [23:05:49] <tantek>
and time
- [23:05:52] <tantek>
and prioritization
- [23:06:02] <tantek>
thus "why isn't there" is a poor question to ask
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- [23:07:01] <csarven>
though, because it isn't there seems to cause confusion?
- [23:09:05] <csarven>
do you mean that if address vcard is used, that should take precedence for hresume?
- [23:09:44] <csarven>
my tests show that even if address vcard is used, the last vcard on page is displayed for hresume in Tails. in this case, then it is a defect
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mario cart makes me dizzy
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shawn is in San Francisco
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