IRC Log for #microformats on 2006-12-23
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drewinthehead is the author of hKit and a developer for Yahoo! Europe
- [00:13:19] <tantek>
hi drew!
- [00:13:28] <drewinthehead>
hey tantek
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hmm... maybe I could justify it as GRDDL outreach...
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drewinthehead is the author of hKit and a developer for Yahoo! Europe
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[[events/2006-03-13-the-growth-and-evolution-of-microformats]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events/2006-03-13-the-growth-and-evolution-of-microformats&diff=0&oldid=11768 * Tantek * (+666) added subject to change session description, updated datetime
- [01:43:02] <mfbot>
[[events/2006-03-13-the-growth-and-evolution-of-microformats]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events/2006-03-13-the-growth-and-evolution-of-microformats&diff=0&oldid=0 * Tantek * (+1373) events/2006-03-13-the-growth-and-evolution-of-microformats moved to events/2006-03-12-growth-evolution-of-microformats
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[[events/2006-03-12-growth-evolution-of-microformats]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events/2006-03-12-growth-evolution-of-microformats&diff=0&oldid=0 * Tantek * (+1373) events/2006-03-12-growth-evolution-of-microformats moved to events/2006-03-12-growth-evolution-of
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[[events/2006-03-12-growth-evolution-of]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events/2006-03-12-growth-evolution-of&diff=0&oldid=0 * Tantek * (+1373) events/2006-03-12-growth-evolution-of moved to events/2006-03-12-sxsw-growth-evolution-of
- [01:45:48] * tantek keeps moving the page until it has enough URL keywords and is still < 70 chars-ish in order to be email copy/pastable without wrapping. sigh.
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[[question-answer-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=question-answer-examples&diff=0&oldid=11769 * TaylorCowan * (+89) General -
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[[events]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events&diff=0&oldid=11770 * Tantek * (+47) added web directions north session page link
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[[question-answer-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=question-answer-examples&diff=0&oldid=11771 * TaylorCowan * (+34) General -
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[[events]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events&diff=0&oldid=11772 * Tantek * (+41) first link on SXSW event is the event page for the microformats session
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[[events]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events&diff=0&oldid=11773 * Tantek * (-21)
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[[events]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events&diff=0&oldid=11774 * Tantek * (+5)
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[[events/2007-02-07-web-directions-north]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/events/2007-02-07-web-directions-north * Tantek * (+562) drafted
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[[question-answer-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=question-answer-examples&diff=0&oldid=11775 * TaylorCowan * (+99) General -
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[[question-answer-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=question-answer-examples&diff=0&oldid=11776 * TaylorCowan * (+89) General -
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Hi, I have a question about the hatom draft and the way you specify an author for an hentry ...
- [02:29:53] <nuth>
which is, wouldn't it be nice to be able to specify a default author for all entries on a page?
- [02:30:18] <tantek>
nuth - you can - i think that is in the faq
- [02:30:45] <tantek>
g2g now - but hopefully you will figure it out - if not - add it to hatom-faq on the wiki - thanks!
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- [02:32:01] <nuth>
can anyone else confirm that he talks about "find the Nearest In Parent <address> element(s) with class name author and that is/are a valid hCard"? The reason is I've done that, but the tails extension for ff doesn't use it
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[[question-answer-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=question-answer-examples&diff=0&oldid=11777 * TaylorCowan * (+104) General -
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[[question-answer-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=question-answer-examples&diff=0&oldid=11778 * TaylorCowan * (+34) Contributors -
- [02:38:09] <csarven>
nuth i can see that in my case the page author satisfies hatom's 'nearest in parent' for the author, however it doesn't showup in Tails
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[[User:TaylorCowan]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/User:TaylorCowan * TaylorCowan * (+12)
- [02:41:20] <nuth>
alright csarven, then it is tails :)
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[[User:Jcopp1]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/User:Jcopp1 * Jcopp1 * (+69)
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tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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danja is Danny Ayers, http://dannyayers.com
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SamRose is found at http://smartmobs.com, http://communitywiki.org, http://blog.p2pfoundation.com, http://barcampbank.com, and http://cooperationcommons.com
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trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and helps with www.multipack.co.uk
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[[bookmarklets]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=bookmarklets&diff=0&oldid=11779 * AndyMabbett * (+135) Brian Suda's
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[[bookmarklets]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=bookmarklets&diff=0&oldid=11780 * AndyMabbett * (+100) RDFa
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[[hcard-issues]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-issues&diff=0&oldid=11781 * AndyMabbett * (+28) {{OpenIssue}}
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[[Template:OpenIssue]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Template:OpenIssue&diff=0&oldid=11782 * AndyMabbett * (+1) tone down colour to improve readability
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cbarrett is Colin Barrett and an Adium Developer and has blue hair and a Mozilla developer
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ahoy
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xtof is Christophe Ducamp you could find me on http://www.communitywiki.org/odd/Xtof/HomePage
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ahoy
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:)
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Ronnos is Ron Kok, a friendly student Communication and Multimedia Design in The Netherlands
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Phae is Frances Berriman of http://www.fberriman.com/
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[[hcard-examples-in-wild]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-examples-in-wild&diff=0&oldid=11783 * JamieKnight * (+91) New Examples -
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[[hcard-examples-in-wild]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-examples-in-wild&diff=0&oldid=11784 * JamieKnight * (+5) New Examples -
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[[cheatsheet]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=cheatsheet&diff=0&oldid=11785 * StrategicPause * (+133)
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danja is Danny Ayers, http://dannyayers.com
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hiya,
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[[hcard-examples-in-wild]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-examples-in-wild&diff=0&oldid=11786 * AndyMabbett * (+38) moved G3:2 to 'problem' section (CSS-hidden data)
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[[cheatsheet]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=cheatsheet&diff=0&oldid=11787 * AndyMabbett * (-14) reword, move, rm. opinion
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[[cheatsheet]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=cheatsheet&diff=0&oldid=11788 * AndyMabbett * (+2)
- [17:41:41] <jammie_>
hiya
- [17:42:29] <jammie_>
mf :what does moving to problem section mean?
- [17:42:59] <tantek>
hello jammie, it means some problems were found with the example
- [17:43:13] <tantek>
the problems should be documented when the example is moved
- [17:43:29] <jammie_>
hiya tantek
- [17:43:47] <jammie_>
just listend to your presentation, and looked through your slide, nice one.
- [17:43:56] <tantek>
thanks jammie_!
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- [17:44:07] <jammie_>
anywho, it is saying about the adress being hidden by CSS,
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- [17:44:35] <jammie_>
however, i have used a very similar aproch to that of a few example ago,
- [17:44:53] <jammie_>
that has the same thing? i think.....
- [17:45:00] * jammie_ is new to mircroformats,
- [17:45:35] <jammie_>
hiya keithalexander
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hello
- [17:46:42] <jammie_>
how are you keithalexander
- [17:47:24] <keithalexander>
alright
- [17:47:27] <keithalexander>
and you?
- [17:47:47] <jammie_>
i am okay,
- [17:48:18] <jammie_>
trying to figure out a few problems with my site, and figure out how to use hCalnder,
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danja is Danny Ayers, http://dannyayers.com
- [17:49:48] <jammie_>
hiya danja
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[[year-in-review/2005]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=year-in-review/2005&diff=0&oldid=0 * Tantek * (+121) year-in-review/2005 moved to 2005-in-review
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[[year-in-review/2006]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=year-in-review/2006&diff=0&oldid=0 * Tantek * (+4181) year-in-review/2006 moved to 2006-in-review
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[[year-in-review/2007]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=year-in-review/2007&diff=0&oldid=0 * Tantek * (+155) year-in-review/2007 moved to 2007-in-review
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[[year-in-review]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=year-in-review&diff=0&oldid=11789 * Tantek * (-15) renamed pages per [[naming-conventions]] - avoid hierarchy "/"
- [17:52:09] <tantek>
jammie_, consider adding yourself to http://microformats.org/wiki/irc-people
- [17:52:24] <jammie_>
will do,
- [17:53:06] * tantek changes topic to 'http://microformats.org/wiki/irc - if you are new here, add yourself to http://microformats.org/wiki/irc-people'
- [17:53:09] * jammie_ uses IRC alot, i am in one of the other rooms on freenode #wrongplanet
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[[irc-people]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=irc-people&diff=0&oldid=11790 * JamieKnight * (+43)
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[[irc-people]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=irc-people&diff=0&oldid=11791 * JamieKnight * (+1)
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[[irc-people]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=irc-people&diff=0&oldid=11792 * JamieKnight * (+0)
- [17:56:32] <jammie_>
grrr, cant get it to display right,
- [17:57:28] <mfbot>
[[irc-people]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=irc-people&diff=0&oldid=11793 * JamieKnight * (-1)
- [17:57:42] <jammie_>
thats, right now,
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Atamido is Paul Bryson, http://orangeman.commo.de/
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[[irc-people]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=irc-people&diff=0&oldid=11794 * Tantek * (+32) sorted a few nicks, split unsorted set at end into an unsorted section
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Mr_Elusive is not a programmer from id but makes his home at http://eswat.ca
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[[hcard-examples-in-wild]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-examples-in-wild&diff=0&oldid=11795 * Tantek * (-1)
- [18:09:54] <jammie_>
i have a question regarding technorati,
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I have set it up with the front page of my site, which only contains news, do i need to relay my claim on the actual journal part, or should i add it as another blog?
- [18:14:55] <tantek>
jammie_, you may want to try #technorati for Technorati questions. :)
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BenWard is Ben Ward of http://ben-ward.co.uk ( 0000/ 0100 GMT)
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[[2006-in-review]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=2006-in-review&diff=0&oldid=11796 * AndyMabbett * (+54) second-person-plural
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hiya,
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[[2006-in-review]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=2006-in-review&diff=0&oldid=11797 * AndyMabbett * (-3) typo
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[[rel-license-ja]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=rel-license-ja&diff=0&oldid=11798 * Vantguarde * (+78) sync w/ the current english ver.
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danja is Danny Ayers, http://dannyayers.com
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hiya danja
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chimezie is Chimezie Ogbuji - He is a mammal
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- [19:15:06] <jammie_>
how do you make, a hCalender work with Outlook?
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[[rel-tag-ja]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=rel-tag-ja&diff=0&oldid=11799 * Vantguarde * (+280) sync w/ the current english ver.
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[[Main Page-ja]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Main_Page-ja&diff=0&oldid=11800 * Vantguarde * (+708) sync: english: 19:00, 19 Dec 2006
- [19:52:13] <jammie_>
tantek: please may i have some help agin,
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danja is Danny Ayers, http://dannyayers.com
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kingryan is ryan king
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hiya
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A few questions: in the hCalendar format how you represent now as an end datetime, and how should you markup a single phrase period (like "summer 2005")
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- [21:29:15] <mkaply>
does anyone know why wordpress does this with rel tags?
- [21:29:22] <mkaply>
<a href="http://microformatique.com/?cat=12" title="View all posts in hcard" rel="category tag">hcard</a>
- [21:29:57] <tantek>
unfortunately that's not a proper rel-tag URL
- [21:30:06] <tantek>
unless they meant for the tag to be ?cat=12
- [21:31:16] <mkaply>
they didn't
- [21:31:31] <mkaply>
it's VERY frustrating. I really don't want to work around there problem, but it seems to be a very common problem
- [21:31:58] <mkaply>
is ? even valid in a tag? Maybe I could leave it out on that grounds?
- [21:32:01] <mkaply>
As in mark that as an error?
- [21:32:13] <mkaply>
that way it at least it won't show up except in debug mode
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- [21:35:31] <tantek>
mkaply - yes that seems reasonably, since handling of query params may be undefined for rel-tag URLs
- [21:35:39] <mkaply>
actually, blogger seems to be screwing up tags as well on my site
- [21:36:04] <mkaply>
tantek: cool. I'll make that change and add an error case to operator so people can at least see the error
- [21:36:06] <tantek>
mkaply, perhaps add them to rel-tag#Implementations and note the problems you have found
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http://microformats.org/wiki/rel-tag#Implementations
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[[rel-tag]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=rel-tag&diff=0&oldid=11801 * MikeKaply * (+163) Implementations -
- [21:39:21] <jammie_>
hiya,
- [21:39:34] <jammie_>
I have an idea, but i am not sure what the process i have to do is,
- [21:51:01] <jammie_>
it is hard to find people in my area who have autism,
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and i think it would be awesome if there was a way to mark somone in a hCard system to note that they have autism, or shops stock autism toys, or bands, or sensory room equipment,
- [21:52:13] <tantek>
tags
- [21:53:03] <jammie_>
how would you spider a site to find vCards with the autism / aspergers tag?
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i am on a large site called wrongplanet, i was trying to explain how hCards could be useful to the site and the comnity from the profile data on the site, but they all started saying i was data rapeing - they dont seem to understand.
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sorry, acidentally close the window,
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drewinthehead is the author of hKit and a developer for Yahoo! Europe
- [22:45:26] <drewinthehead>
greetings
- [22:46:06] <jammie_>
hiya,
- [22:46:26] <jammie_>
your work for yahoo, thats kewl,
- [22:48:19] <drewinthehead>
yahoo is a good place to work, at least they 'get' microformats :)
- [22:52:02] <jammie_>
yeah, i am not working for anyone at the moment, but pentangle are starting to get microformats too, which is awesome,
- [22:52:33] <jammie_>
I am very new to microformats, been experimenting with them on my site,
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still trying to make a hCalender that outlook can read, do you know where i can find an example? (i have searched evrywhere)
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- [23:54:48] <coderanger>
<span cls="org url"><a href="">name</a></span> or <span cls="org"><a cls="url" href="">name</a></span> ?
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- [23:56:29] <coderanger>
or should it just be <a cls="org url">
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coderanger: You can combine them into <a class="org url">
- [23:57:27] <coderanger>
yeah, that makes sense
- [23:57:34] <BenWard>
The url class should always be on the A
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