IRC Log for #microformats on 2007-01-05

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  1. [00:02:53] <BobJonkma1> I believe the intent of "type=car" is for VHF radiotelephone devices that require call setup by a mobile operator, as opposed to a cellular phone used in the car.
  2. [00:03:32] <BobJonkma1> These things were so bulky and power hungry that they needed a car for power and mobility. I think they may still be used aboard ships.
  3. [00:04:07] <BobJonkma1> Still, I can revert the link to the picture if you like...
  4. [00:04:49] <mfbot> [[plazes-syntax]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/plazes-syntax * Chris Messina * (+2641)
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  9. [00:14:07] <jibot> monkinetic is redmonk is SteveIvy is Steve Ivy - http://redmonk.net
  10. [00:15:31] <mfbot> [[irc-people]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=irc-people&diff=0&oldid=12146 * SteveIvy * (+8)
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  13. [00:38:47] <tantek> BobJonkman - perhaps we should link to a "tel-type-car" page on the wiki where we can include both sets of photos
  14. [00:38:57] <tantek> what do you think of that? want to create that page?
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  16. [00:39:18] <BobJonkma1> OK, will do.
  17. [00:39:41] <BobJonkma1> Mind you, the intent of "type=car" is just speculation on my part.
  18. [00:39:54] <tantek> on both our parts
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  20. [00:40:00] <tantek> hence documenting it in a wiki page makes sense
  21. [00:40:16] <BobJonkma1> OK, I'll add appropriate disclaimers
  22. [00:42:06] <tantek> as long as you make it clear at the top that it is an "informative" section (see hcard-implementations for example for such header boilerplate) then it should be fine
  23. [00:42:17] <tantek> it meaning the "tel-type-car" wiki page
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  26. [01:18:50] <jibot> redmonk is Steve Ivy, http://redmonk.net and is linklogging at http://deliciouslymeta.com
  27. [01:19:47] <redmonk> what's the url for the -discuss archives again?
  28. [01:19:59] <redmonk> (the nice archive, not the mailman archive ;-) )
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  31. [01:52:10] <jibot> Tyler is a web developer working towards a user-powered online magazine utilizing Microformats.
  32. [01:52:45] <Tyler> Hello!
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  40. [02:34:15] <mfbot> [[voting-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=voting-examples&diff=0&oldid=12147 * SteveIvy * (+34) Centralized Implementations -
  41. [02:35:26] <mfbot> [[voting-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=voting-examples&diff=0&oldid=12148 * SteveIvy * (+103) See Also - Add link to Original PageRank paper for reference
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  44. [02:36:37] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
  45. [02:36:56] <monkinetic> evenin
  46. [02:37:02] <KevinMarks> hello
  47. [02:37:07] <Tyler> Hi monkinetic and KevinMarks.
  48. [02:38:27] <monkinetic> KevinMarks: i started a voting-examples page, and wondered if you knew of any others I could include...
  49. [02:40:05] <KevinMarks> sadly, the technorati votes page died in a site reorg
  50. [02:41:04] <monkinetic> pity
  51. [02:41:25] <monkinetic> though i'm lookig for any kind of voting, not just votelinks
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  53. [02:51:11] <KevinMarks> well, there is a lot of positive-only voting
  54. [02:51:28] <KevinMarks> del.icio.us, tehcnorati favorites etc
  55. [02:51:36] <KevinMarks> Slashdot moderation?
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  59. [02:55:43] <monkinetic> yeah, i got /.
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  62. [03:06:53] <mfbot> [[voting-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=voting-examples&diff=0&oldid=12149 * SteveIvy * (+178) Centralized Implementations - add bookmarking sites as basically "for" votes
  63. [03:10:12] <Tyler> Maybe you folk can help with a domain decision.
  64. [03:11:39] <Tyler> I'm starting work on Flamb? magazine, an online magazine that's going to be implementing Microformats. Unfortunately, like most good names, flambe.com is owned by someone else. I'm considering my options as to how to brand the domain name.
  65. [03:17:11] <KevinMarks> can you get the name with the accent from a domain registry? Not that that would be easy to type
  66. [03:18:55] <KevinMarks> you could register 'flombay.com' as that's free and how people may spell it...
  67. [03:29:01] <Tyler> Hehe
  68. [03:29:32] <Tyler> Flamb?.com is taken, plus that accent would be bloody hard for most to type, hehe.
  69. [03:30:33] <Tyler> flombay.com... haha, never really thought of that, but I think keeping it close to the actual magazine name would be better for branding purposes. :)
  70. [03:30:40] <Tyler> I'm enjoying your suggestions though. ;)
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  72. [03:32:56] <Tyler> flambeed.com is available, though without the accent it looks like an odd word.
  73. [03:33:36] <Tyler> Anyway, sorry for clogging the channel with non-topic stuff. I suppose if anyone has any suggestions they can PM me.
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  76. [03:48:00] <jibot> redmonk is Steve Ivy, http://redmonk.net and is linklogging at http://deliciouslymeta.com
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  80. [04:29:03] <monkinetic> can someone 'splain what the (+/-n) means in the edit messages?
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  141. [12:27:27] <mfbot> [[Main Page]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Main_Page&diff=0&oldid=12158 * NTollervey * (-18482) Spam removal
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  156. [13:47:55] <jibot> iand is Ian Davis who blogs at http://iandavis.com/blog
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  158. [13:56:20] <jibot> monkinetic is redmonk is SteveIvy is Steve Ivy - http://redmonk.net
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  172. [14:52:02] <mfbot> [[vote-links-issues]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=vote-links-issues&diff=0&oldid=12161 * AndyMabbett * (+17) Template - nowiki on example link
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  176. [14:58:11] <mfbot> [[vote-links-issues]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=vote-links-issues&diff=0&oldid=12165 * AndyMabbett * (-17) stet
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  182. [15:23:54] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
  183. [15:38:29] <mfbot> [[irc-people]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=irc-people&diff=0&oldid=12167 * MikeKaply * (+42) unsorted -
  184. [15:39:58] <mkaply> ?def mkaply is Michael Kaply <http://www.kaply.com/weblog/> and is the developer of Operator <https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/4106/>
  185. [15:39:59] <jibot> mkaply is Michael Kaply <http://www.kaply.com/weblog/> and is the developer of Operator <https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/4106/>
  186. [15:44:18] * mkaply wonders if anyone else with blogger blogs has the tag problem I have
  187. [15:44:57] * monkinetic waves at tantek
  188. [15:51:22] <mkaply> It's only if you host your own blog. Argh
  189. [15:51:46] * mkaply ponders using blogspot
  190. [15:53:06] <mfbot> [[advocacy]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=advocacy&diff=0&oldid=12168 * AndyMabbett * (+2) fmt
  191. [15:56:29] <monkinetic> i guess andy needs to get his fix of correcting people...
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  195. [16:02:03] <mfbot> [[irc-people]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=irc-people&diff=0&oldid=12169 * AndyMabbett * (-16) Sorted & merged
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  200. [16:06:22] <jibot> bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
  201. [16:07:10] <mfbot> [[irc-people]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=irc-people&diff=0&oldid=12171 * AndyMabbett * (+0) more sorting
  202. [16:09:11] <mfbot> [[irc-people]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=irc-people&diff=0&oldid=12172 * AndyMabbett * (+0) last one, I thnik - can someone check, please?
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  208. [16:18:33] <monkinetic> question - should a ToDo->LazyWeb request for hcard in mediawiki go under hcard or under it's own "hcard in mediawiki" sedction?
  209. [16:19:33] <mfbot> [[to-do]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=to-do&diff=0&oldid=12173 * SteveIvy * (+123) Lazyweb - add hcard in MediaWiki request
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  215. [16:30:24] <mfbot> [[events]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events&diff=0&oldid=12174 * AndyMabbett * (+2) upcoming -> recent
  216. [16:33:16] <mfbot> [[events]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events&diff=0&oldid=12175 * AndyMabbett * (+148) ask organisers to use microformats
  217. [16:35:32] <mfbot> [[events]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events&diff=0&oldid=12176 * AndyMabbett * (+10) sub-head for 2006
  218. [16:39:33] <mfbot> [[to-do]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=to-do&diff=0&oldid=12177 * AndyMabbett * (-123) move last to [[advocay]]
  219. [16:42:54] <mfbot> [[advocacy]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=advocacy&diff=0&oldid=12178 * AndyMabbett * (+204) hCard - moved form 'to-do'
  220. [16:44:45] <mfbot> [[User talk:SteveIvy]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/User_talk:SteveIvy * AndyMabbett * (+222) mediawiki suggeston moved
  221. [16:46:11] <mfbot> [[events]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events&diff=0&oldid=12179 * AndyMabbett * (+8) [[ ]]
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  223. [16:48:02] <mfbot> [[advocacy]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=advocacy&diff=0&oldid=12180 * AndyMabbett * (+108) Telephone Directory Listings - BT - partial success ;-)
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  225. [16:52:58] <mfbot> [[icalendar-implementations]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=icalendar-implementations&diff=0&oldid=12181 * ReinholdKainhofer * (+195) Add KOrganizer
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  227. [17:04:35] <mfbot> [[advocacy]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=advocacy&diff=0&oldid=12182 * SteveIvy * (-1) hCard -
  228. [17:07:16] <mfbot> [[events]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events&diff=0&oldid=12183 * AndyMabbett * (-129) 2006 - sorted; past tense; rm. extraneous venue detail
  229. [17:07:32] <mfbot> [[events]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events&diff=0&oldid=12184 * AndyMabbett * (+1) 2006 - sorted; past tense; rm. extraneous venue detail
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  232. [17:09:12] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  234. [17:10:33] <mfbot> [[events]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events&diff=0&oldid=12185 * AndyMabbett * (-29) 2006 - further past tense; rm. extraneous venue detail
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  236. [17:12:24] <mfbot> [[events]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events&diff=0&oldid=12186 * AndyMabbett * (+151) Recent - Please change to past tense
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  242. [17:15:06] <mfbot> [[events]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events&diff=0&oldid=12188 * AndyMabbett * (+224) Upcoming - Please try to keep to neutral tense...
  243. [17:16:32] <mfbot> [[advocacy]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=advocacy&diff=0&oldid=12189 * AndyMabbett * (+0) Online Profiles - typo
  244. [17:16:58] <mfbot> [[events]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events&diff=0&oldid=12190 * AndyMabbett * (-2) Upcoming - rm. whitespace
  245. [17:19:01] <mkaply> wow. using xpath to get the microformats makes things MUCH faster.
  246. [17:20:06] <monkinetic> hehe
  247. [17:20:08] <monkinetic> cool
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  249. [17:24:42] <mkaply> although all the existing getElementsByClassName using xpath get things like fooveventbar
  250. [17:25:03] <mkaply> they don't know how to make sure things are standalone. Maybe a second parse
  251. [17:25:44] <mfbot> [[hcard]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard&diff=0&oldid=12191 * AndyMabbett * (-25) rv. - link is now to an "anti leeching" image
  252. [17:29:01] <mfbot> [[events]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events&diff=0&oldid=12192 * Tantek * (+260) do not remove details please, on the contrary, please include details for as complete a citation as possible
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  256. [17:31:58] <monkinetic> .j #css
  257. [17:32:03] <monkinetic> dangit
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  259. [17:38:01] <BobJonkman> mkaply: I've got the problem with new links opening in a new window. Do you have time to troubleshoot?
  260. [17:38:21] <mkaply> BobJonkman: already found and fixed. There will be an update soon. It was a Javascript variable scoping problem.
  261. [17:38:31] <BobJonkman> Thnx.
  262. [17:38:43] <mkaply> I've learned my lesson - make available for limited testing before putting on addons :)
  263. [17:38:48] <mkaply> won't happen again
  264. [17:38:56] <mkaply> BobJonkman: what do you think of my object support on your resume?
  265. [17:40:51] <BobJonkman> I still have too many other errors on the oldindex page, and haven't re-added <object> references to the real page...
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  267. [17:43:48] <BobJonkman> the hCard parts work great;but I have no valid calendar app to export to for the hCalendar parts... Looks good from Clipboard Viewer, tho.
  268. [17:43:50] * monkinetic waves at adactio and goes back to weeping over this IE bug
  269. [17:46:42] <adactio> waves back at Steve and commiserates.
  270. [17:49:41] * mkaply solves that by never using IE :)
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  272. [17:54:03] <monkinetic> mkaply: lucky you ;-)
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  280. [18:19:05] <BobJonkman> Question for the group: In my hCard in the phone type I want to use different visible text from the valid spec. I am using <span class="tel"><span class="type" title="cell">Cel</span>: <span class="value">+1-519-635-9413</span></span> (note the use of "title" to specify the valid type) Is this a proper syntax? Real-world example at http://sobac.com/bjonkman
  281. [18:19:34] <tantek> BobJonkman - title only means anything on abbr for microformats
  282. [18:19:39] <tantek> this is a FAQ IIRC
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  284. [18:22:02] * BobJonkman seaches through http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard-faq again
  285. [18:22:50] <tantek> i believe it is a general FAQ
  286. [18:22:54] <tantek> since it applies to all microformats
  287. [18:23:00] <tantek> or certainly more than one
  288. [18:26:40] <BobJonkman> I think I found it at http://microformats.org/wiki/faq#Design_Patterns_with_Abbr_.26_Title
  289. [18:28:44] <BobJonkman> I've changed the markup to <span class="tel"><span class="type"><abbr title="cell">Cel</abbr></span>: <span class="value">+1-519-635-9413</span></span> (rwe http://sobac.com/bjonkman )
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  291. [18:28:48] <jibot> Ronnos is Ron Kok, a friendly student Communication and Multimedia Design in The Netherlands
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  293. [18:31:50] <BobJonkman> Is this correct? If not, what's wrong? If so, Operator isn't picking it up :(
  294. [18:33:50] <mfbot> [[species-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=12193 * CyndyParr * (+2414)
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  299. [18:52:10] <jibot> emiliano is Emiliano Martinez Luque and can be found online at http://www.metonymie.com
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  302. [19:05:22] <mfbot> [[voting-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=voting-examples&diff=0&oldid=12194 * SteveIvy * (+266) Centralized Implementations - Add fields for digg, urbandictionary
  303. [19:06:43] <mfbot> [[species-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=12195 * AndyMabbett * (+1880) Response to Cyndy Parr
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  306. [19:13:25] <mfbot> [[species-brainstorming]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=12196 * AndyMabbett * (+16) Response - tyops
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  309. [19:15:34] <jibot> markp is Mark Pilgrim
  310. [19:16:07] <mfbot> [[hreview-examples-in-wild]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hreview-examples-in-wild&diff=0&oldid=12197 * LindseySimon * (+172) New Examples -
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  312. [19:21:13] <mfbot> [[species-brainstorming]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=12198 * AndyMabbett * (-1) Response by Andy Mabbett - '
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  314. [19:27:44] <mfbot> [[species-brainstorming]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=12199 * AndyMabbett * (-1) Response by Andy Mabbett - typo
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  320. [19:41:06] <mfbot> [[voting-brainstorming]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/voting-brainstorming * SteveIvy * (+233) Created; is voting a kind of review?
  321. [19:43:27] <mfbot> [[voting-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=voting-examples&diff=0&oldid=12200 * SteveIvy * (+46) add related pages
  322. [19:45:18] <mfbot> [[hcard-examples-in-wild]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-examples-in-wild&diff=0&oldid=12201 * ScottWallick * (+130) New Examples -
  323. [19:46:19] <mfbot> [[hcard-examples-in-wild]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-examples-in-wild&diff=0&oldid=12202 * ScottWallick * (+4) New Examples -
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  325. [19:52:55] <monkinetic> generally, how much are uF's supposed to be informed by current practice and how much by the real-world semantics of the problem?
  326. [19:53:12] <monkinetic> i should say current technical/web practice
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  328. [19:54:48] <jibot> pnhChris is Chris Casciano, blogs at http://placenamehere.com/ , and a member of the Web Standards Project.
  329. [19:54:51] <mfbot> [[User:CyndyParr]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/User:CyndyParr * AndyMabbett * (+465) Welcome
  330. [19:55:33] <mfbot> [[press]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=press&diff=0&oldid=12203 * Bob Jonkman * (+280) Information Week article of 2007-01-03
  331. [19:56:06] * pnhChris takes bets on whether the page User:CyndyParr will ever be edited by User:CyndyParr
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  335. [19:58:44] <mfbot> [[species-brainstorming]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=12204 * AndyMabbett * (+2) Response by Andy Mabbett - []
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  339. [20:01:35] <mfbot> [[User talk:CyndyParr]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/User_talk:CyndyParr * AndyMabbett * (+478) Welcome
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  347. [20:49:58] <mfbot> [[advocacy]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=advocacy&diff=0&oldid=12205 * AndyMabbett * (+116) Various - eBay response
  348. [20:50:43] * nicolast added hCard support to his app (first steps)
  349. [20:51:49] <mfbot> [[advocacy]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=advocacy&diff=0&oldid=12206 * AndyMabbett * (+53) UK Gov. hCalendar - no response from DTI
  350. [20:55:56] <mfbot> [[User:CyndyParr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:CyndyParr&diff=0&oldid=12207 * AndyMabbett * (-465) moved to talk page
  351. [20:57:32] <mfbot> [[hreview-examples-in-wild]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hreview-examples-in-wild&diff=0&oldid=12208 * AndyMabbett * (-7) fix link
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  353. [21:06:40] <jibot> mlinksva is Mike Linksvayer and from Creative Commons
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  356. [21:08:24] <jibot> SamRose is found at http://smartmobs.com, http://communitywiki.org, http://blog.p2pfoundation.com, http://barcampbank.com, and http://cooperationcommons.com
  357. [21:09:48] <mfbot> [[press]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=press&diff=0&oldid=12209 * AndyMabbett * (+171) January - Mozilla Does Microformats - Read/ Write web
  358. [21:10:44] <mfbot> [[press]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=press&diff=0&oldid=12210 * AndyMabbett * (+4) date fix; avoid duplicate section heads
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  362. [21:29:21] <mfbot> [[hcard-examples-in-wild]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-examples-in-wild&diff=0&oldid=12211 * WizardIsHungry * (-299) Examples with some problems - This is not a problem because EXAMPLES do this; if it is a problem take it up with [[hcard-example1-steps]]
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  364. [21:31:22] <mfbot> [[hcard-examples-in-wild]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-examples-in-wild&diff=0&oldid=12212 * WizardIsHungry * (+223) New Examples - Adding examples with hidden fields; see [[hcard-example1-steps]]
  365. [21:33:34] <mfbot> [[hcard-issues]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-issues&diff=0&oldid=12213 * WizardIsHungry * (+282) hcard-example1-steps and CSS
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  368. [21:37:25] <mfbot> [[hcard-issues]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-issues&diff=0&oldid=12214 * WizardIsHungry * (+110) Issues - elevate to global issue?
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  370. [21:40:11] <mfbot> [[icons]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=icons&diff=0&oldid=12215 * WizardIsHungry * (+237) XFN -
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  374. [21:47:57] <mfbot> [[recent-news]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/recent-news * AndyMabbett * (+1003) This should prove useful...
  375. [21:48:28] <mfbot> [[recent-news]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=recent-news&diff=0&oldid=0 * AndyMabbett * (+1003) recent-news moved to this-week-pending
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  383. [21:53:23] <mfbot> [[this-week-pending]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=this-week-pending&diff=0&oldid=12218 * AndyMabbett * (+41) past issues
  384. [22:18:01] <mfbot> [[openid-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=openid-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=12219 * WizardIsHungry * (+51) Yadis and rel="me"
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  387. [22:23:14] <mfbot> [[this-week-pending]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=this-week-pending&diff=0&oldid=12221 * AndyMabbett * (+0) typo
  388. [22:23:30] <mfbot> [[User:WolfgangWiese]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/User:WolfgangWiese * WolfgangWiese * (+446)
  389. [22:24:46] <mfbot> [[this-week]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=this-week&diff=0&oldid=12222 * AndyMabbett * (-1) tyop
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  391. [22:28:28] <mfbot> [[hcard-examples-in-wild]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-examples-in-wild&diff=0&oldid=12224 * AndyMabbett * (+76) revert to return hidden-content example to problem section; read hcard-example1-steps notes
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