IRC Log for #microformats on 2007-03-14
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[[hcalendar-examples-in-wild]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar-examples-in-wild&diff=0&oldid=14228 * AidAdams * (+123) New Examples -
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[[hcard-examples-in-wild]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-examples-in-wild&diff=0&oldid=14229 * AidAdams * (+87) New Examples -
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[[User:AidAdams]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/User:AidAdams * AidAdams * (+618)
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hi stii, glad to see more south africans here :)
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[[Microformats:Community Portal]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Microformats:Community_Portal&diff=0&oldid=14230 * ChristopheDucamp * (+1) typo
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[[events-fr/2006-03-12-sxsw-growth-evolution-of]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events-fr/2006-03-12-sxsw-growth-evolution-of&diff=0&oldid=14231 * ChristopheDucamp * (+2204) updated
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[[events-fr/2006-03-12-sxsw-growth-evolution-of]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events-fr/2006-03-12-sxsw-growth-evolution-of&diff=0&oldid=14232 * ChristopheDucamp * (-113) Aimerait Participer -
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[[events-fr/2006-03-12-sxsw-growth-evolution-of]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events-fr/2006-03-12-sxsw-growth-evolution-of&diff=0&oldid=14233 * ChristopheDucamp * (-5) Résumé -
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[[events-fr/2006-03-12-sxsw-growth-evolution-of]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events-fr/2006-03-12-sxsw-growth-evolution-of&diff=0&oldid=14234 * ChristopheDucamp * (-2) Billets de Blog -
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[[User:AndyMabbett]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:AndyMabbett&diff=0&oldid=14235 * AndyMabbett * (+23) Browsing - upgrade ;-)
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[[citation]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation&diff=0&oldid=14236 * TonyHammond * (+133) Informative References -
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[[citation]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation&diff=0&oldid=14237 * TonyHammond * (+83) Informative References -
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[[footnotes-examples]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=footnotes-examples&diff=0&oldid=14238 * JeremyBoggs * (+23) Essays/Tutorials -
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[[User:Tyler Roehmholdt]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:Tyler_Roehmholdt&diff=0&oldid=0 * Tyler * (+291) User:Tyler Roehmholdt moved to User:DeleteMe
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[[hcard-examples-in-wild]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-examples-in-wild&diff=0&oldid=14240 * Sypher * (+145) New Examples -
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Anyone know why flickr doesn't use rel-tag?
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mkaply, because they suck?
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lets get factoryjoe to organize another boycott
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I can't believe that when people talk about tagspaces and rel-tag they reference flickr, when they don't even use rel-tag!
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the big secret is that microformats is mostly talk
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but if we pretend that everyone is doing it then people will feel left out and do implement them
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the percentage of documents with a microformat on them is miniscule...
- [21:57:51] <bewest>
then again, so is the percentage of documents that pass basic syntax validation
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ianloic: I was surprised how many people showed up for the microformats panel - people seem to care at least...
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later
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- [22:04:06] <ianloic>
people care
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- [22:06:28] <bewest>
which people ;-)
- [22:06:36] <bewest>
most people don't care
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nerds
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people that get more excited about standards than products...
- [22:13:19] <nacht>
standards are the price you pay for interoperability ;)
- [22:13:30] <ianloic>
bah
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standards don't guarantee interoperability
- [22:14:06] <nacht>
on the other hand no standards guarantee no interoperability
- [22:14:32] <ianloic>
not necessarily
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look at IBM PC clones
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look at common document formats
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I can open a msword doc on any computer :)
- [22:15:18] <ianloic>
anyway, I'm not arguing for no standards
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I'm just saying writing a standard doesn't give you interoperability
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and funnily a lot of stuff in the ibm pc is standardized
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it's much harder without
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you need test suites, you need comprehensive documentation including documentation of the failure and edge cases
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you need a ton of stuff we don't have in the microformats space right now
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yes, essentially a spec
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tantek would probably argue that we're at the place html 2.0 was and that's a good thing since the web was a huge success
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he might be right but *I* think we can do better
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(not that I'm volunteering :)
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