IRC Log for #microformats on 2007-03-14

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  6. [00:10:13] <mfbot> [[hcalendar-examples-in-wild]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar-examples-in-wild&diff=0&oldid=14228 * AidAdams * (+123) New Examples -
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  56. [05:52:05] <Charl> hi stii, glad to see more south africans here :)
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  92. [08:52:33] <mfbot> [[Microformats:Community Portal]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Microformats:Community_Portal&diff=0&oldid=14230 * ChristopheDucamp * (+1) typo
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  96. [09:02:35] <mfbot> [[events-fr/2006-03-12-sxsw-growth-evolution-of]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events-fr/2006-03-12-sxsw-growth-evolution-of&diff=0&oldid=14231 * ChristopheDucamp * (+2204) updated
  97. [09:03:46] <mfbot> [[events-fr/2006-03-12-sxsw-growth-evolution-of]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events-fr/2006-03-12-sxsw-growth-evolution-of&diff=0&oldid=14232 * ChristopheDucamp * (-113) Aimerait Participer -
  98. [09:04:07] <mfbot> [[events-fr/2006-03-12-sxsw-growth-evolution-of]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events-fr/2006-03-12-sxsw-growth-evolution-of&diff=0&oldid=14233 * ChristopheDucamp * (-5) Résumé -
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  289. [21:38:16] <mkaply> Anyone know why flickr doesn't use rel-tag?
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  293. [21:51:39] <ianloic> mkaply, because they suck?
  294. [21:51:52] <ianloic> lets get factoryjoe to organize another boycott
  295. [21:53:02] <mkaply> I can't believe that when people talk about tagspaces and rel-tag they reference flickr, when they don't even use rel-tag!
  296. [21:55:46] <ianloic> the big secret is that microformats is mostly talk
  297. [21:56:02] <ianloic> but if we pretend that everyone is doing it then people will feel left out and do implement them
  298. [21:56:58] <bewest> the percentage of documents with a microformat on them is miniscule...
  299. [21:57:51] <bewest> then again, so is the percentage of documents that pass basic syntax validation
  300. [21:58:08] * ianloic wonders if his pages validate...
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  302. [22:02:45] <mkaply> ianloic: I was surprised how many people showed up for the microformats panel - people seem to care at least...
  303. [22:02:46] <mkaply> later
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  305. [22:04:06] <ianloic> people care
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  307. [22:06:28] <bewest> which people ;-)
  308. [22:06:36] <bewest> most people don't care
  309. [22:12:14] <ianloic> nerds
  310. [22:12:40] <ianloic> people that get more excited about standards than products...
  311. [22:13:19] <nacht> standards are the price you pay for interoperability ;)
  312. [22:13:30] <ianloic> bah
  313. [22:13:38] <ianloic> standards don't guarantee interoperability
  314. [22:14:06] <nacht> on the other hand no standards guarantee no interoperability
  315. [22:14:32] <ianloic> not necessarily
  316. [22:14:37] <ianloic> look at IBM PC clones
  317. [22:14:46] <nacht> look at common document formats
  318. [22:15:00] <ianloic> I can open a msword doc on any computer :)
  319. [22:15:18] <ianloic> anyway, I'm not arguing for no standards
  320. [22:15:29] <ianloic> I'm just saying writing a standard doesn't give you interoperability
  321. [22:15:33] <nacht> and funnily a lot of stuff in the ibm pc is standardized
  322. [22:15:38] <bewest> it's much harder without
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  324. [22:16:04] <ianloic> you need test suites, you need comprehensive documentation including documentation of the failure and edge cases
  325. [22:16:16] <ianloic> you need a ton of stuff we don't have in the microformats space right now
  326. [22:16:20] <bewest> yes, essentially a spec
  327. [22:17:00] <ianloic> tantek would probably argue that we're at the place html 2.0 was and that's a good thing since the web was a huge success
  328. [22:17:10] <ianloic> he might be right but *I* think we can do better
  329. [22:17:18] <ianloic> (not that I'm volunteering :)
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