IRC Log for #microformats on 2007-03-16
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being lazy.. anyone have a pointer to PHP code for string -> n guessing handy?
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[[resume-formats]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=resume-formats&diff=0&oldid=14276 * PaoloMassa * (+363)
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[[irc-people]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=irc-people&diff=0&oldid=14277 * DavidMead * (+39)
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[[User:DavidMead]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/User:DavidMead * DavidMead * (+147)
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- [11:07:37] <cbarrett>
you know, it's funny
- [11:08:33] <cbarrett>
if you plot my reading and replying to the uf-discuss list over time, you see there's a very large drop as soon as I start working for, of all people, a browser vendor.
- [11:08:35] <cbarrett>
:)
- [11:16:29] <mfbot>
[[User:DavidMead]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:DavidMead&diff=0&oldid=14278 * DavidMead * (+256) David Mead -
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[[User talk:DavidMead]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/User_talk:DavidMead * AndyMabbett * (+70) welcome
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[[advocacy]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=advocacy&diff=0&oldid=14279 * AndyMabbett * (+74) Telephone Directory Listings - SkypeFind
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[[advocacy]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=advocacy&diff=0&oldid=14280 * AndyMabbett * (+131) Telephone Directory Listings - SkypeFind requested
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- [18:26:14] <fulld>
is there a standard way to provide multiple links to a file to download so that the client can simultaneously swarm from all of them?
- [18:27:09] <fulld>
so that the browser knows that this link over ftp and this link over bittorrent and this one over gnutella go to the same file
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- [18:36:58] <itpastorn>
As long as there is one URL=one resource I'd say no there is not - what would the protocol be?
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- [18:57:09] <mkaply>
good thing no microformat folks are in mozilla #developers right now :)
- [18:57:23] <cbarrett>
heheh
- [18:59:48] <cbarrett>
that logging thread was really interesting.
- [19:00:39] <cbarrett>
(since my original purpose in joining the uf group was to talk about the proposed chatlog microformat)
- [19:13:48] <cgriego>
If I had a parsing issue or really more of a "pitfall to watch out for" with the abbr-design-pattern, what wiki page would that go on? I'm referring to the use of abbr with a custom namespace, i.e. html:abbr
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- [19:19:45] <ianloic>
mkaply, *grin*
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- [19:28:49] <KevinMarks>
what happened re chatlogs? I recall adium went wiht some xml thing
- [19:31:37] <mfbot>
[[User:IwaiMasaharu]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:IwaiMasaharu&diff=0&oldid=14281 * IwaiMasaharu * (+49) profile -
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- [20:15:58] <bewest>
cgriego: is it an implementation issue?
- [20:16:11] <bewest>
cgriego: post it on -dev
- [20:16:13] <bewest>
mailing list
- [20:16:53] <cgriego>
it is, but it isn't issue with a specific implementation, it's become a recurring issue with implementations
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- [20:19:22] <bewest>
yes, share it on -dev and ask for feedback
- [20:19:48] <bewest>
(I don't know what to do with it without hearing about it)
- [20:19:57] <bewest>
but no one else will either
- [20:20:00] <bewest>
so I suggest sharing it on -dev
- [20:20:16] <bewest>
and then we can discuss how to either iterate to fix it, or where to document it properly
- [20:20:22] <bewest>
this is exactly what -dev is for
- [20:24:15] <mfbot>
[[vote-links-ja]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=vote-links-ja&diff=0&oldid=14282 * IwaiMasaharu * (+0) 廃止された案: rel属性を用いたVote Links - fix typo
- [20:25:41] <mfbot>
[[vote-links-ja]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=vote-links-ja&diff=0&oldid=14283 * IwaiMasaharu * (+24) 廃止された案: rel属性を用いたVote Links - 日本語表現を更新
- [20:27:52] <bewest>
nice
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- [22:15:38] <trumpetmic>
wow, this channel is populated
- [22:15:49] <trumpetmic>
anyone here and awake?
- [22:17:57] <trumpetmic>
anyone familiar with hreview usage? I'm intersted in the star characters in particular
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- [22:21:40] <bewest>
trumpetmic: what kind of interest?
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- [22:22:16] <trumpetmic>
i'm interested in the compatibility of the star character used by the hreview generator on microformats.org
- [22:22:25] <trumpetmic>
it looks like a star in ff1.5
- [22:22:39] <trumpetmic>
but it doesn't display in ff2.0 or ie6 or 7
- [22:25:13] <KevinMarks>
hi
- [22:25:44] <KevinMarks>
it's a unicode character; are you serving the result with the right encoding?
- [22:27:14] <bewest>
trumpetmic: is this being served from microformats.org, or something you are trying to serve from one of your servers?
- [22:27:22] <KevinMarks>
it may be a font substitution issue?
- [22:27:41] <trumpetmic>
aha
- [22:27:52] <trumpetmic>
I think you're onto something with the character encoding issue
- [22:27:55] <trumpetmic>
checking that out now
- [22:28:13] <trumpetmic>
when I go to validate the page, w3c says I have a type mismatch
- [22:28:24] * trumpetmic is looking into that now
- [22:29:53] <KevinMarks>
it is a unicode escape, so browsers are supposed to honour thta even if the surrounding font doesn't contain it
- [22:30:08] <trumpetmic>
gotcha
- [22:30:16] <KevinMarks>
afaik
- [22:30:25] <trumpetmic>
I think I would like to use that, rather than a star image, though I think the image I have looks better
- [22:30:43] <trumpetmic>
any thoughts or pereferences here on that?
- [22:31:10] <KevinMarks>
well, I used those star characters after seeing them on a lot of chinese blogs
- [22:31:23] <trumpetmic>
I wasn't even really sure that I wanted to use the star characters, but then I wondered if using straight images with alts might throw off the microformat's usefulness
- [22:31:59] <KevinMarks>
no, straight images are fine - thats what the <abbr title="3" class="rating"> is for
- [22:32:03] <trumpetmic>
like if a product rating site crawled my site, looking for reviews... and looking for the star
- [22:32:03] <KevinMarks>
you can use images
- [22:32:08] <trumpetmic>
gothca
- [22:32:27] <trumpetmic>
so, this isn't even really an issue. Well, at least it makes me take the type mismatch problem seriously
- [22:32:58] <trumpetmic>
KevinMarks, did you create the hreview generator?
- [22:33:57] <KevinMarks>
I made some hReviews using the stars, and ryan used the idea in the generator
- [22:34:31] <trumpetmic>
coolness
- [22:34:39] <trumpetmic>
well, thanks for the insights
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- [22:43:06] <bewest>
KevinMarks: do you happen to know if the use of abbr as a means to expand a concept (as opposed to a literal term/word/phrase) been discussed in the context of HTMLWG or WHATWG at all?
- [22:43:43] <KevinMarks>
I haven't been following it closely; tantek or hixie might know more
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- [22:48:13] <cbarrett>
HTMLWG being invisible to the public, rather
- [22:49:40] <bewest>
it's not invisible
- [22:49:41] <bewest>
???
- [22:49:51] <bewest>
it's public
- [22:49:54] <bewest>
anyone can send mail
- [22:49:58] <bewest>
and anyone can view the archive
- [22:50:07] <bewest>
what is your definition of invisible and public?
- [22:50:08] <cbarrett>
hm
- [22:50:18] <bewest>
also, anyone can join the group
- [22:50:21] <cbarrett>
I was reading something on hixie's blog that contained links that I wasn't able to go to.
- [22:50:26] <bewest>
as an invited expert by filling out a few forms
- [22:50:28] <cbarrett>
I thought they were HTMLWG
- [22:50:53] <bewest>
the w3 has plenty of resources that require authentication, that doesn't make them invisible
- [22:51:02] <cbarrett>
it was the XHTMLWG
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http://ln.hixie.ch/?start=1172653243&count=1
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s
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