IRC Log for #microformats on 2007-03-20

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  4. [00:09:01] <mfbot> [[mailing-list-unmoderation]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=mailing-list-unmoderation&diff=0&oldid=14465 * EdwardOConnor * (+31)
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  42. [03:19:08] <mfbot> [[governance-issues]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=governance-issues&diff=0&oldid=14467 * JoeAndrieu * (+1708) Mailing List Unmoderation Discussion -
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  47. [04:29:42] <mfbot> [[governance-issues]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=governance-issues&diff=0&oldid=14469 * RCanine * (+336) Mailing List Unmoderation Discussion -
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  54. [05:22:58] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  58. [05:41:49] <jibot> bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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  62. [05:49:26] <mfbot> [[faq]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=faq&diff=0&oldid=14470 * Kevin Marks * (+14) Q: ''Who controls microformats?'' -
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  65. [06:04:03] <mfbot> [[governance]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=governance&diff=0&oldid=14471 * Kevin Marks * (+39) Admins -
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  70. [07:06:17] <jibot> Charl is Charl van Niekerk and writes about standards at http://standards.za.net/
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  75. [08:04:34] <jibot> bengee is Benjamin Nowack (http://bnode.org/)
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  80. [08:50:17] <jibot> BenWard is Ben Ward of http://ben-ward.co.uk ( 0000/ 0100 GMT)
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  82. [08:55:48] <jibot> trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and helps with www.multipack.co.uk
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  86. [09:14:04] <jibot> davecardwell is Dave Cardwell of http://davecardwell.co.uk/. He designs webs and generally geeks about in York, England.
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  91. [09:48:22] <jibot> iand is Ian Davis who blogs at http://iandavis.com/blog
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  93. [09:54:27] <jibot> Charl is Charl van Niekerk and writes about standards at http://standards.za.net/
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  95. [10:18:28] <jibot> julianstahnke is Julian Stahnke and works for last.fm and implements microformats wherever he can
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  98. [10:37:51] <davecardwell> was the issue regarding how to mark up events with no end (ie. "to present") resolved?
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  102. [11:02:40] <mfbot> [[mailing-list-unmoderation]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=mailing-list-unmoderation&diff=0&oldid=14472 * Phae * (+10) vote
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  106. [11:09:35] <jibot> bengee is Benjamin Nowack (http://bnode.org/)
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  114. [12:15:22] <jibot> csarven is Sarven Capadisli and can be found online at http://www.csarven.ca
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  119. [13:01:13] <jibot> sreynen is Scott Reynen, who makes things at makedatamakesense.com
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  125. [13:20:06] <jibot> Mr_Elusive is not a programmer from id but makes his home at http://eswat.ca
  126. [13:32:12] <mfbot> [[governance-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=governance-fr&diff=0&oldid=14473 * ChristopheDucamp * (+39) add Kevin Marks
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  133. [14:14:15] <mfbot> [[faq-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=faq-fr&diff=0&oldid=14474 * ChristopheDucamp * (+14) Q : ''Qui contrôle les microformats '' -
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  135. [14:14:30] <jibot> briansuda is brian suda of http://suda.co.uk and is at (-0000 GMT) and is author of "Using Microformats" for O'Reilly [http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/microformats/]
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  138. [14:23:54] <jibot> mkaply is Michael Kaply <http://www.kaply.com/weblog/> and is the developer of Operator <https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/4106/>
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  141. [14:30:15] <jibot> csarven is Sarven Capadisli and can be found online at http://www.csarven.ca
  142. [14:49:26] <sreynen> wow, i can't believe the discussion around unmoderating andy is so contentious
  143. [14:54:37] * briansuda nods
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  146. [15:00:44] <jibot> cgriego is Chris Griego (-06:00) and a front-end architect with rd2inc.com
  147. [15:01:50] <briansuda> cgriego, mkaply was looking into the Operator "bug" with html:abbr yesterday
  148. [15:02:23] <mkaply> For know I went ahead and hacked it up to explicitly look for html:abbr. I felt dirty.
  149. [15:04:35] <cgriego> sorry :(
  150. [15:07:04] <mkaply> cgriego: is myglobalcareer your site?
  151. [15:07:33] <cgriego> mkaply: it's a client's
  152. [15:08:06] <mkaply> cgriego: fyi, the page has a couple validation issues you might want to look into. Some unclosed tags
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  154. [15:09:47] <jibot> danja is Danny Ayers, http://dannyayers.com
  155. [15:10:26] * mkaply wishes wordpress autosaved posts. argh
  156. [15:10:55] <cgriego> unfortunately that's also the client's, they've chosen not to work with us in an ongoing services capacity. I used it as an example for html:abbr simply because it was a recent project.
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  166. [15:58:40] <jibot> ajturner is Andrew Turner, a simulation and geolocation nut who blogs at http://highearthorbit.com
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  168. [16:12:50] <mfbot> [[geo-elevation-examples]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/geo-elevation-examples * ScottReynen * (+859) Initial examples
  169. [16:27:02] <mfbot> [[geo-elevation-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=geo-elevation-examples&diff=0&oldid=14475 * AndyMabbett * (+12) geo-related-pages
  170. [16:28:13] <mfbot> [[Template:geo-related-pages]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Template:geo-related-pages&diff=0&oldid=14476 * AndyMabbett * (+92) geo-elevation-examples
  171. [16:28:54] <mfbot> [[geo-elevation]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/geo-elevation * AndyMabbett * (+36)
  172. [16:29:05] <mfbot> [[geo-elevation]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=geo-elevation&diff=0&oldid=14477 * AndyMabbett * (+0)
  173. [16:31:21] <mfbot> [[geo-elevation-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=geo-elevation-examples&diff=0&oldid=14478 * AndyMabbett * (+66) Proposal - Issues
  174. [16:32:07] <mfbot> [[geo-elevation-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=geo-elevation-examples&diff=0&oldid=14479 * AndyMabbett * (+18) measure
  175. [16:33:19] <mkaply> cgriego: still around
  176. [16:33:36] <cgriego> aye
  177. [16:34:06] <mkaply> cgriego: so I think that problem you are seeing is a bug in either WP or the feedburner plugin. It doesn't create a comments feed for pages, only posts
  178. [16:34:21] <mkaply> Even my primary comment feed doesn't show page comments
  179. [16:35:21] <cgriego> ooh, hadn't thought of that. I've never tried enabling comments on pages.
  180. [16:35:35] <mkaply> http://wordpress.org/support/topic/102293 although I can't get there
  181. [16:36:11] <cgriego> neither can I, must be down.
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  183. [16:37:10] <jibot> Charl is Charl van Niekerk and writes about standards at http://standards.za.net/
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  195. [17:14:31] <jibot> tylerr is Tyler Roehmholdt and is brewing up something social.
  196. [17:16:23] <tylerr> ?def forgetme
  197. [17:16:23] <jibot> Nobody has defined forgetme yet
  198. [17:17:21] <tylerr> ?forgetme
  199. [17:17:21] <jibot> I have expunged tylerr from my mind
  200. [17:17:42] <tylerr> That jibot keeps remembering me even after expunging... odd.
  201. [17:18:40] <tylerr> Anyway, so a bit of a disappointment here at work. The engagement manager I was talking uf to decided not to pursue it further because it wasn't "marketable" enough to sell to our current clients.
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  204. [17:26:36] <cgriego> mkaply: wordpress.org is back up.
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  207. [17:36:25] <tantek> tylerr, does the engagement manager consider RSS "marketable" enough? and if so, why?
  208. [17:40:18] <mkaply> cgriego: saw that. But I still can't find anything about pag ecomment feeds
  209. [17:44:05] <tylerr> tantek: I personally would, it's a matter of the work we do currently. My division works almost exclusively with Microsoft technical and internal portals and pages, he feels it doesn't have much of an impact.
  210. [17:44:37] <tylerr> I feel there's a tremendous opportunity to be had, he just doesn't see it.
  211. [17:45:11] <tantek> comparing to things like RSS often helps clear things up
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  213. [17:46:02] * tylerr nods.
  214. [17:46:27] <tylerr> I sent him to your Web Directions North slides, I should ping him to see if he even read them.
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  216. [17:46:50] <jibot> davecardwell is Dave Cardwell of http://davecardwell.co.uk/. He designs webs and generally geeks about in York, England.
  217. [17:47:34] <tylerr> I definitely see implementation opportunities everywhere though. Take this page (http://www.microsoft.com/technet/updatemanagement/gettingstarted/step2.mspx), nearly every Technet page has at the bottom has a rank and review section, perfect for the hReview.
  218. [17:47:56] <mfbot> [[geo-elevation-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=geo-elevation-examples&diff=0&oldid=14480 * AlexanderGraf * (+68) Participants -
  219. [17:48:23] <tylerr> And as you made mention, there are RSS feeds everywhere in Technet and other areas.
  220. [17:50:08] <tantek> right
  221. [17:50:17] <mfbot> [[geo-elevation-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=geo-elevation-examples&diff=0&oldid=14481 * AlexanderGraf * (+176) State High Points (http://www.waypoint.org/gps2-list210.html) -
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  223. [17:50:50] <tylerr> Perhaps I should simply put together a proposal on my own and present to my direct EM rather than this particular one whom I was working with on this.
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  227. [17:52:19] <tylerr> I wish I could simply talk directly to MS, but that would be overstepping my bounds in my current professional position within the company.
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  229. [18:03:36] <mkaply> what's the verb form of bluetooth? :)
  230. [18:04:12] <briansuda> send to ...
  231. [18:04:43] <mkaply> "Send To Bluetooth device"
  232. [18:04:44] <hober> blueteethe? :)
  233. [18:05:14] <mkaply> There should be a way to do this on windows, right?
  234. [18:05:19] * mkaply would prefer not to have a mac specific action
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  236. [18:05:50] <jibot> bewest is Ben West and lives in San Francisco, CA. He daydreams about web style software, works at Alexa.com and blogs at http://bewest.wordpress.com/
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  242. [18:27:50] <jibot> Ronnos is Ron Kok, a friendly student Communication and Multimedia Design in The Netherlands
  243. [18:27:50] <mfbot> [[User talk:AlexanderGraf]] MN http://microformats.org/wiki/User_talk:AlexanderGraf * AndyMabbett * (+72) welcome
  244. [18:28:06] <mfbot> [[User talk:AlexanderGraf]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User_talk:AlexanderGraf&diff=0&oldid=14482 * AndyMabbett * (+0) welcome
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  246. [18:35:47] <jibot> iand is Ian Davis who blogs at http://iandavis.com/blog
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  248. [18:43:22] <mkaply> ok. send to bluetooth device done. Can't test it, but it should work
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  251. [18:54:41] <mkaply> Who can answer questions best about hreview?
  252. [18:55:39] <tantek> this is a reasonable place to ask
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  254. [18:59:45] <mkaply> I'm a little confused about fn being required in the hreview item. Is fn only required if it is a vcard (obviously) or if there is no hcalendar? As in, if the item is an hcalendar, there shouldn't be an fn, right? Since an hcalendar would have a summary, not an fn
  255. [19:00:15] <tantek> the requirement is something like
  256. [19:00:38] <tantek> fn | hCard/fn | hCalendar/summary
  257. [19:00:59] <tantek> which wording in the spec confused you mike? i'll see if i can fix it
  258. [19:02:01] <mkaply> item info in field details http://microformats.org/wiki/hreview
  259. [19:02:13] <mkaply> his required field MUST have at a minimum the name ("fn" - the formatted text corresponding to the name) of the item
  260. [19:06:13] <tantek> how about this instead:
  261. [19:07:14] <tantek> This required field MUST have at a minimum the name ("fn" - the formatted text corresponding to the name, except for an event item which MUST have the "summary" property inside the respective hCalendar "vevent")
  262. [19:07:53] <mkaply> That sounds good.
  263. [19:09:48] <mfbot> [[hreview]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hreview&diff=0&oldid=14483 * Tantek * (+114) adjust the item info requirements to be more explicit/consistent for event items.
  264. [19:12:46] <tantek> done
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  274. [19:35:01] <mkaply> me needs a valid hreview that uses a vcard as the item. I'm too lazy to write one
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  279. [20:01:17] <hober> mkaply: http://edward.oconnor.cx/2006/11/pizza-port
  280. [20:08:52] <mfbot> [[citation-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=14484 * AndyMabbett * (+721) Use case: Give citation data for the page being visited
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  290. [20:26:01] <jibot> drewinthehead is Drew McLellan, a web developer for Yahoo! and a person too
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  293. [20:27:48] <mfbot> [[citation-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=14485 * AndyMabbett * (+120) Give citation data for the page being visited - simplifiy
  294. [20:28:42] <bewest> danja: around?
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  297. [20:40:09] <mkaply> hober: sweet. thanks
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  299. [20:41:45] <mfbot> [[citation-brainstorming]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=14486 * AndyMabbett * (-44) Give citation data for the page being visited - fix
  300. [20:43:49] <hober> np
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  306. [20:51:22] * mkaply finally has 30 boxes support that matches upcoming! hurrah!
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  312. [21:02:50] <tantek> mkaply, see my reviews of restaurants on my blog from last July http://tantek.com/log/2006/07.html
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  317. [21:07:10] <mkaply> tantek: One of those people that make rating a child of description. argh :)
  318. [21:07:40] <tantek> it shouldn't matter right?
  319. [21:08:36] <mkaply> tantek: well, the description is the textContent of the description node. So the stars get embedded in the description. Basically the rating ends up a part of the description
  320. [21:08:58] <hober> It depends on how you mark up your rating
  321. [21:09:13] <hober> I typically do something like <abbr ...>very good</abbr> in description
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  323. [21:09:33] <mkaply> hober: yes - that will work.
  324. [21:09:56] <mkaply> but some people do <description><rating>*****</rating>Nice restaurant</description>
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  327. [21:10:10] <jibot> danja is Danny Ayers, http://dannyayers.com
  328. [21:11:00] <mkaply> tantek: actually, two of those reviews are invalid - fn is not a child of item
  329. [21:11:19] <tantek> mkaply - did i ever mention to you that operator rocks?
  330. [21:11:22] <tantek> :)
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  332. [21:12:02] <mkaply> don't fix it yet. I'm reporting an error, but not the correct one
  333. [21:13:13] <bewest> ah there's danja
  334. [21:13:23] <bewest> or not
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  336. [21:14:56] <tantek> mkaply, I have it fixed locally and can upload for testing when you want
  337. [21:16:59] <mkaply> tantek: No problem. I figured out what it was. I made my item checking stricter, so I need to special care the item/fn child case
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  340. [21:19:37] <tantek> great!
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  344. [21:26:50] <Atamido> Is there a microformat for describing chat logs?
  345. [21:27:04] <Atamido> I know it's been discussed to death, but I can't recall the outcome.
  346. [21:27:16] <bewest> hatom
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  348. [21:27:42] <bewest> afaik the most apropriate place to document that is the advocacy page
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  350. [21:30:23] <Atamido> Oh, there's Chat discussions on the home page of the wiki.
  351. [21:30:47] <Atamido> Strangely though, the -examples page doesn't include MSN Messenger logs. :(
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  355. [21:42:09] <jibot> woodss is Steven Woods, from Newcastle, UK (GMT 0000). His personal site is http://www.swoo.co.uk/ and Steven Woods, http://www.swoo.co.uk - He is situated in Newcastle, UK (GMT 0000).
  356. [21:47:31] <tantek> Atamido - please add them!
  357. [21:48:28] <Atamido> tantek: Here is a link. You add them. :P http://stupidpeople.commo.de/logs/After%20August%202005/
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  360. [21:49:23] <Atamido> MSN chat logs are probably the single largest type of logs in existence.
  361. [21:49:46] <tantek> Atamido - we need your help too - is it too difficult for you to add them to the wiki?
  362. [21:50:28] <Atamido> Yes, I'm busy pretending to work.
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  397. [23:27:04] <jibot> cgriego is Chris Griego (-06:00) and a front-end architect with rd2inc.com
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  402. [23:44:15] <jibot> AlexanderGraf is a designer and webdeveloper from Innsbruck, Austria who writes on http://www.aetherworld.org/ and works for DERI Innsbruck (http://www.deri.org/)
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