IRC Log for #microformats on 2007-04-16
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[[plazes-syntax]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=plazes-syntax&diff=0&oldid=15605 * Bg5Dbx * (-2348)
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[[events-fr/2007-04-17-web-2-expo]] MN http://microformats.org/wiki/events-fr/2007-04-17-web-2-expo * ChristopheDucamp * (+2117)
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[[events-fr/2007-04-18-web-2-expo-dinner]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events-fr/2007-04-18-web-2-expo-dinner&diff=0&oldid=15606 * ChristopheDucamp * (+679)
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Enric is a media Software Developer and Videoblogger located at http://www.cirne.com
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[[events-fr/2007-04-17-web-2-expo]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events-fr/2007-04-17-web-2-expo&diff=0&oldid=15607 * ChristopheDucamp * (-1)
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[[events-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events-fr&diff=0&oldid=15608 * ChristopheDucamp * (+256) sync'd
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[[hreview-examples-in-wild-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hreview-examples-in-wild-fr&diff=0&oldid=15609 * ChristopheDucamp * (+370)
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pnhChris is Chris Casciano, blogs at http://placenamehere.com/ , and a member of the Web Standards Project.
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Enric is a media Software Developer and Videoblogger located at http://www.cirne.com
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bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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Charl is Charl van Niekerk and writes about standards at http://standards.za.net/
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bengee is Benjamin Nowack (http://bnode.org/)
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trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and helps with www.multipack.co.uk
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tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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julianstahnke is Julian Stahnke and works for last.fm and implements microformats wherever he can
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bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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Mr_Elusive is not a programmer from id but makes his home at http://eswat.ca
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csarven is Sarven Capadisli and can be found online at http://www.csarven.ca
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bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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mkaply is Michael Kaply <http://www.kaply.com/weblog/> and is the developer of Operator <https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/4106/>
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mlinksva is Mike Linksvayer and from Creative Commons
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cgriego is Chris Griego (-06:00) and a front-end architect with rd2inc.com
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ddfreyne is nothing
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davecardwell is Dave Cardwell of http://davecardwell.co.uk/. He designs webs and generally geeks about in York, England.
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ChrisHeilmann is Christian Heilmann, physically located in London and at http://wait-till-i.com
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- [16:08:07] <roxlu>
hi everyone!
- [16:08:32] <roxlu>
When I want to use the hCard format, can I use a <span class="adr"> instead of a <div class="adr"> ?
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- [16:10:19] <tantek>
roxlu, see: http://microformats.org/wiki/faq#.3Cdiv.3E_and_.3Cspan.3E_semantics
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Ah thanks! so I can use them both
- [16:11:20] <tantek>
yes :)
- [16:11:47] <roxlu>
microformats are really one of the better 'new' things today
- [16:12:11] <roxlu>
I see the hCard doesn't have a "fax" attribute,.... or I can't find it. where are these 'defined'?
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tel type
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http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard#type_subproperty_values
- [16:13:20] <roxlu>
ah okay
- [16:14:21] <tantek>
roxlu: see http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard-authoring#Phone_Numbers
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csarven is Sarven Capadisli and can be found online at http://www.csarven.ca
- [16:22:57] <pnhChris>
tantek: i don't recall any, but there are no 2 'word' types anywhere currently, for tel or otherwise, correct
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- [16:24:54] <tantek>
pnhChris it wouldn't matter if there were, we would just dashify them
- [16:25:23] <pnhChris>
... wondering about that phone number authoring example of <span class="type">work</span> <span class="type">fax</span> could be simplified by parsing rules
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e.g. spaces
- [16:25:49] <pnhChris>
though we'd have to think about delimiters if we were to allow it
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davecardwell is Dave Cardwell of http://davecardwell.co.uk/. He designs webs and generally geeks about in York, England.
- [16:25:56] <tantek>
pnhChris, perhaps start with an example in the wild that you think could be simplified
- [16:27:03] <pnhChris>
if i hit one, sure... first time it registered with me that someone might use types that way
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Atamido is Paul Bryson, http://orangeman.commo.de/
- [16:37:34] <tantek>
pnhChris, exactly, if you hit one. otherwise it's not really worth worrying about, or certainly not worth proposing any changes for
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SamRose is found at http://smartmobs.com, http://communitywiki.org, http://blog.p2pfoundation.com, http://barcampbank.com, and http://cooperationcommons.com
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bear is located near Philadelphia, PA and the build/release grunt for OSAF and an apprentice python hacker
- [16:54:20] <pnhChris>
i agree... though I'll drop a line in the wiki somewhere so the thought doesn't get lost [even if shot down or immediately tabled]
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?def jdandrea is Joe D'Andrea - http://www.joesapt.net/
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jdandrea is Joe D'Andrea - http://www.joesapt.net/
- [17:09:00] <mfbot>
[[hcard-parsing]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-parsing&diff=0&oldid=15610 * ChrisCasciano * (+697) Proposed Additions -
- [17:09:49] <tantek>
pnhChris, could you add that to hcard-brainstorming instead? that's where such thoughts should be captured.
- [17:10:31] <pnhChris>
um? http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard-brainstorming#Parsing
- [17:10:46] <pnhChris>
i had thought so too
- [17:10:51] <pnhChris>
but for the redirect i found there
- [17:10:59] <tantek>
whoa that is old
- [17:11:14] <tantek>
that is a remnant from where *all* parsing used to be documented on hcard-brainstorming
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- [17:13:09] <pnhChris>
i'm happy to move it around... though that proposed additions area of the parsing page seemed to be an approriate place as well
- [17:13:14] <pnhChris>
given the other content there
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[[hcard-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=15611 * Tantek * (+250) updated Parsing section to distinguish current rules from proposals
- [17:14:46] <tantek>
pnhChris, yeah, I had thought so originally as well, however, it turns out that many author-driven proposals to add things to hCard (or adr for that matter) often require parsing changes as well, thus easier to keep them all in hCard brainstorming.
- [17:14:50] <tantek>
does http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard-brainstorming#Parsing make more sense now?
- [17:15:46] <pnhChris>
sure
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[[hcard-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=15612 * ChrisCasciano * (+734) Parsing - multiple type optimizations -
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[[hcard-parsing]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-parsing&diff=0&oldid=15613 * ChrisCasciano * (-697) reverting after moving parsing suggestion to hcard-brainstorming
- [17:23:04] <pnhChris>
there we go
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cmd-w one too many times
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[[plazes-syntax]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=plazes-syntax&diff=0&oldid=15614 * RyanKing * (+2348) Reverted edit of Bg5Dbx, changed back to last version by Tantek
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pnhChris, wouldn't it be nice if there was a systemwide undo to cmd-w?
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[[Talk:WikiNode]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Talk:WikiNode&diff=0&oldid=15615 * RyanKing * (+91) Reverted edit of GduQyn, changed back to last version by Tantek
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sure, though it usually only bites me when there is some other boneheaded thing in the app that means I can't easily get back to where i was... the camino pref pane & accidently changing my home page because the field is focused being the biggest current culprit
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AlexanderGraf is a designer and webdeveloper from Innsbruck, Austria who writes on http://www.aetherworld.org/ and works for DERI Innsbruck (http://www.deri.org/)
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[[User talk:SylvainCarle]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/User_talk:SylvainCarle * AndyMabbett * (+71) Welcome!
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