IRC Log for #microformats on 2007-04-16

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  28. [03:27:23] <jibot> pnhChris is Chris Casciano, blogs at http://placenamehere.com/ , and a member of the Web Standards Project.
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  31. [03:46:29] <jibot> Enric is a media Software Developer and Videoblogger located at http://www.cirne.com
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  51. [06:58:32] <jibot> Charl is Charl van Niekerk and writes about standards at http://standards.za.net/
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  62. [08:07:04] <jibot> trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and helps with www.multipack.co.uk
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  70. [08:44:37] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  73. [09:45:41] <jibot> julianstahnke is Julian Stahnke and works for last.fm and implements microformats wherever he can
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  76. [10:49:04] <jibot> bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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  83. [12:30:29] <jibot> Mr_Elusive is not a programmer from id but makes his home at http://eswat.ca
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  101. [14:13:05] <jibot> bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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  110. [15:01:15] <jibot> cgriego is Chris Griego (-06:00) and a front-end architect with rd2inc.com
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  116. [15:25:02] <jibot> davecardwell is Dave Cardwell of http://davecardwell.co.uk/. He designs webs and generally geeks about in York, England.
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  122. [15:47:43] <jibot> ChrisHeilmann is Christian Heilmann, physically located in London and at http://wait-till-i.com
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  130. [16:08:07] <roxlu> hi everyone!
  131. [16:08:32] <roxlu> When I want to use the hCard format, can I use a <span class="adr"> instead of a <div class="adr"> ?
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  133. [16:10:19] <tantek> roxlu, see: http://microformats.org/wiki/faq#.3Cdiv.3E_and_.3Cspan.3E_semantics
  134. [16:10:57] <roxlu> Ah thanks! so I can use them both
  135. [16:11:20] <tantek> yes :)
  136. [16:11:47] <roxlu> microformats are really one of the better 'new' things today
  137. [16:12:11] <roxlu> I see the hCard doesn't have a "fax" attribute,.... or I can't find it. where are these 'defined'?
  138. [16:12:32] <pnhChris> tel type
  139. [16:13:03] <pnhChris> http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard#type_subproperty_values
  140. [16:13:20] <roxlu> ah okay
  141. [16:14:21] <tantek> roxlu: see http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard-authoring#Phone_Numbers
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  144. [16:20:29] <jibot> csarven is Sarven Capadisli and can be found online at http://www.csarven.ca
  145. [16:22:57] <pnhChris> tantek: i don't recall any, but there are no 2 'word' types anywhere currently, for tel or otherwise, correct
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  147. [16:24:54] <tantek> pnhChris it wouldn't matter if there were, we would just dashify them
  148. [16:25:23] <pnhChris> ... wondering about that phone number authoring example of <span class="type">work</span> <span class="type">fax</span> could be simplified by parsing rules
  149. [16:25:32] <pnhChris> e.g. spaces
  150. [16:25:49] <pnhChris> though we'd have to think about delimiters if we were to allow it
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  152. [16:25:51] <jibot> davecardwell is Dave Cardwell of http://davecardwell.co.uk/. He designs webs and generally geeks about in York, England.
  153. [16:25:56] <tantek> pnhChris, perhaps start with an example in the wild that you think could be simplified
  154. [16:27:03] <pnhChris> if i hit one, sure... first time it registered with me that someone might use types that way
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  157. [16:33:50] <jibot> Atamido is Paul Bryson, http://orangeman.commo.de/
  158. [16:37:34] <tantek> pnhChris, exactly, if you hit one. otherwise it's not really worth worrying about, or certainly not worth proposing any changes for
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  161. [16:45:56] <jibot> SamRose is found at http://smartmobs.com, http://communitywiki.org, http://blog.p2pfoundation.com, http://barcampbank.com, and http://cooperationcommons.com
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  164. [16:47:25] <jibot> bear is located near Philadelphia, PA and the build/release grunt for OSAF and an apprentice python hacker
  165. [16:54:20] <pnhChris> i agree... though I'll drop a line in the wiki somewhere so the thought doesn't get lost [even if shot down or immediately tabled]
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  171. [17:08:37] <jdandrea> ?def jdandrea is Joe D'Andrea - http://www.joesapt.net/
  172. [17:08:38] <jibot> jdandrea is Joe D'Andrea - http://www.joesapt.net/
  173. [17:09:00] <mfbot> [[hcard-parsing]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-parsing&diff=0&oldid=15610 * ChrisCasciano * (+697) Proposed Additions -
  174. [17:09:49] <tantek> pnhChris, could you add that to hcard-brainstorming instead? that's where such thoughts should be captured.
  175. [17:10:31] <pnhChris> um? http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard-brainstorming#Parsing
  176. [17:10:46] <pnhChris> i had thought so too
  177. [17:10:51] <pnhChris> but for the redirect i found there
  178. [17:10:59] <tantek> whoa that is old
  179. [17:11:14] <tantek> that is a remnant from where *all* parsing used to be documented on hcard-brainstorming
  180. [17:12:51] * tantek goes to update that section
  181. [17:13:09] <pnhChris> i'm happy to move it around... though that proposed additions area of the parsing page seemed to be an approriate place as well
  182. [17:13:14] <pnhChris> given the other content there
  183. [17:13:27] <mfbot> [[hcard-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=15611 * Tantek * (+250) updated Parsing section to distinguish current rules from proposals
  184. [17:14:46] <tantek> pnhChris, yeah, I had thought so originally as well, however, it turns out that many author-driven proposals to add things to hCard (or adr for that matter) often require parsing changes as well, thus easier to keep them all in hCard brainstorming.
  185. [17:14:50] <tantek> does http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard-brainstorming#Parsing make more sense now?
  186. [17:15:46] <pnhChris> sure
  187. [17:21:08] <mfbot> [[hcard-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=15612 * ChrisCasciano * (+734) Parsing - multiple type optimizations -
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  191. [17:23:04] <pnhChris> there we go
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  194. [17:23:49] <pnhChris> cmd-w one too many times
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  200. [17:37:50] <jibot> kingryan is ryan king
  201. [17:41:31] <mfbot> [[plazes-syntax]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=plazes-syntax&diff=0&oldid=15614 * RyanKing * (+2348) Reverted edit of Bg5Dbx, changed back to last version by Tantek
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  203. [17:42:45] <tantek> pnhChris, wouldn't it be nice if there was a systemwide undo to cmd-w?
  204. [17:43:42] * tantek has done the cmd-w one too many times thing many times, most often due to sluggish/bloated UI code in apps not being responsive enough (or spinning rainbow cursor of death slowing things down)
  205. [17:44:47] <mfbot> [[Talk:WikiNode]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Talk:WikiNode&diff=0&oldid=15615 * RyanKing * (+91) Reverted edit of GduQyn, changed back to last version by Tantek
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  207. [17:46:45] <pnhChris> sure, though it usually only bites me when there is some other boneheaded thing in the app that means I can't easily get back to where i was... the camino pref pane & accidently changing my home page because the field is focused being the biggest current culprit
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  227. [18:46:26] <jibot> AlexanderGraf is a designer and webdeveloper from Innsbruck, Austria who writes on http://www.aetherworld.org/ and works for DERI Innsbruck (http://www.deri.org/)
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  234. [19:01:43] <jibot> briansuda is brian suda of http://suda.co.uk and is at (-0000 GMT) and is author of "Using Microformats" for O'Reilly [http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/microformats/]
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