IRC Log for #microformats on 2007-06-14
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sreynen is Scott Reynen, who makes things at makedatamakesense.com
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[[hreview-feedback]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hreview-feedback&diff=0&oldid=17498 * ZabPe5 * (-11632)
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[[hreview-feedback]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hreview-feedback&diff=0&oldid=17499 * Tantek * (+11632) Reverted edit of ZabPe5, changed back to last version by Gazza
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[[Special:Log/block]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Special:Log/block&diff=0&oldid=0 * Tantek * (+0) blocked "User:ZabPe5" with an expiry time of infinite: damage/spam
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tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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iand is Ian Davis who blogs at http://iandavis.com/blog
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trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and helps with www.multipack.co.uk
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julianstahnke is Julian Stahnke and works for last.fm and implements microformats wherever he can
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BenWard is Ben Ward of http://ben-ward.co.uk ( 0000/ 0100 GMT)
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mkaply is Michael Kaply <http://www.kaply.com/weblog/> and is the developer of Operator <https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/4106/>
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sreynen is Scott Reynen, who makes things at makedatamakesense.com
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briansuda is brian suda of http://suda.co.uk and is at (-0000 GMT) and is author of "Using Microformats" for O'Reilly [http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/microformats/]
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- [13:21:37] <mkaply>
ow
- [13:21:59] <briansuda>
i saw your Q in the archives: Does X2V get the raw HTML for something like a vevent description that has HTML in it or does it do a text parse?
- [13:22:28] <briansuda>
can you elaborate?
- [13:23:22] <mkaply>
I'm wondering for the FF3 API, when someone requests hcalendar.description, should they get the "raw" description or should I text parse it? It seems like there are arguments for both.
- [13:23:33] <mkaply>
The spec seems to indicate I should text parse it.
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But you lose a lot of content that you can't get back
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yes, there are...
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for hCard NOTE i do an ASCII representation of the HTML
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but this is NOT required by the spec
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I could provide an api in microformats to convert things to text
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i guess it depends on the end data
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in iCal you wouldn
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't want the HTML
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that's what I was thinking. So it's really about the action deciding what to do. Which is what I have now.
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but for Upcoming or Google Cal, if they accept it, then it would be worth it
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ok. So the way I have it is good
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because this is NOT part of the spec (or a manditory one) this is where the market will decide, applications can compete on features
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ok.
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I also still need someone else with a yahoo calendar account to tell me if yahoo is broken or if there is something wrong with my account
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if i were Google/Yahoo, i'd be striping and cleaning that HTML input as best possible!!!
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You have one?
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no, i have a yahoo account because of Upcoming and FLickr, but i never use the calendar
- [13:27:43] <mkaply>
can you just go to
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http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/192396/
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and select send to yahoo calendar
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and tell me what date it tries to add it as?
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Basic microformats seminor in Tokyo
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Date: Thursday June 14, 2007
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Time: 8:28 am
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OK. Yahoo is screwed. I can't believe they haven't noticed this. It's been this way for like two weeks
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:)
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hm, is anyone here working for Yahoo?
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- [13:32:39] <briansuda>
OK, mkaply can you email me the issue and i can forward it to a contact in Yahoo on the Cal team
- [13:32:45] <mkaply>
I sent email, and I posted it on the upcoming news site - but nothing. I can't believe this big of a bug hasn't gotten any attention
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do you have a link to the bug?
- [13:33:27] <mkaply>
actually, they do know of it
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We've been aware of this problem for a few weeks now, and the Calendar
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team should have a fix out shortly. I believe it's only a problem with
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preview, so if you go ahead and add the event, I believe should show up
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on the right day (but don't hold me to that!).
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I just didn't see the post to the yws-events group
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yeah, you are not going crazy it is an issue on their end
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[[hcard-examples-in-wild]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-examples-in-wild&diff=0&oldid=17500 * DmitryDzhus * (+5) UTF8 Examples -
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julianstahnke is Julian Stahnke and works for last.fm and implements microformats wherever he can
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<abbr class="rrule" title="freq=yearly">yearly</abbr>
- [21:32:58] <mkaply>
do you people hate parser writers?
- [21:33:02] <mkaply>
shoot me in the head now
- [21:37:06] <KevinMarks>
given-name and family-name are singular
- [21:37:21] <KevinMarks>
er, that was a question
- [21:37:56] <KevinMarks>
are given-name and family-name plural? the spec says so, but they look singular to me, with additional name as plural
- [21:38:25] <KevinMarks>
rrule will make you shoot yourself in the head anyway
- [21:38:55] <KevinMarks>
I met the chap who wrote that section of the RFC and he said ti was over-specced and needed clarifying
- [21:39:38] <mkaply>
I only have additional name as plural
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I thought that is what the spec said
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[[xfn-issues]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=xfn-issues&diff=0&oldid=17501 * Chris Messina * (-1) accepted fragment identifier issue
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[[Template:AcceptedIssue]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/Template:AcceptedIssue * Chris Messina * (+117)
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[[xfn-issues]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=xfn-issues&diff=0&oldid=17502 * Chris Messina * (+5)
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Mr_Elusive is not a programmer from id but makes his home at http://eswat.ca
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