IRC Log for #microformats on 2007-06-15

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  6. [00:46:44] <jibot> kingryan is ryan king
  7. [00:54:59] <KevinMarks> looking at hCard is label to adr as fn is to n?
  8. [00:55:27] <KevinMarks> is it meant for an unstructured address?
  9. [00:55:49] <kingryan> it's meant for mailing label
  10. [00:55:54] <kingryan> like:
  11. [00:56:23] <kingryan> Technorati\n665 3rd St., Suite 206\nSan Francisco, CA 94117
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  24. [03:53:14] <jibot> csarven is Sarven Capadisli and can be found online at http://www.csarven.ca
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  29. [05:05:29] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  51. [08:06:49] <jibot> trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and helps with www.multipack.co.uk
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  62. [09:37:27] <jibot> julianstahnke is Julian Stahnke and works for last.fm and implements microformats wherever he can
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  64. [09:45:38] <jibot> BenWard is Ben Ward of http://ben-ward.co.uk ( 0000/ 0100 GMT)
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  71. [10:47:40] <jibot> bengee is Benjamin Nowack (http://bnode.org/)
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  82. [11:41:16] <jibot> iand is Ian Davis who blogs at http://iandavis.com/blog
  83. [11:42:39] <mfbot> [[hcard-examples-in-wild]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-examples-in-wild&diff=0&oldid=17504 * Trovster * (+307) New Examples -
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  86. [11:56:46] <mfbot> [[geo]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=geo&diff=0&oldid=17505 * Trovster * (+145) Examples in the wild -
  87. [11:58:52] <mfbot> [[hatom]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hatom&diff=0&oldid=17506 * Trovster * (+185) Examples in the wild -
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  96. [12:59:04] <jibot> csarven is Sarven Capadisli and can be found online at http://www.csarven.ca
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  99. [13:29:52] <jibot> sreynen is Scott Reynen, who makes things at makedatamakesense.com
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  104. [14:40:51] <DavidMead> i've had a problem with an event and pulling it through Operator into Outlook
  105. [14:41:22] <DavidMead> i'm going to mail it to the list but i wondered if anyone knew where to let Mike Kaply know as well
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  111. [15:31:01] <jibot> cgriego is Chris Griego (-06:00) and a front-end architect with rd2inc.com
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  121. [16:30:10] <jibot> Kilianvalkhof is Kilian Valkhof, he makes websites and blogs at http://kilianvalkhof.com
  122. [16:43:35] <mfbot> [[User:Fil]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:Fil&diff=0&oldid=17507 * Qc1Gbb * (-464)
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  130. [17:19:05] <jibot> kingryan is ryan king
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  132. [17:27:14] <jibot> mkaply is Michael Kaply <http://www.kaply.com/weblog/> and is the developer of Operator <https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/4106/>
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  135. [17:31:17] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  144. [18:28:41] <mfbot> [[audio-info-proposal]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=audio-info-proposal&diff=0&oldid=17508 * ManuSporny * (-38) Schema -
  145. [18:28:57] <mfbot> [[audio-info-proposal]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=audio-info-proposal&diff=0&oldid=17509 * ManuSporny * (-72) Schema -
  146. [18:30:28] <mfbot> [[audio-info-proposal]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=audio-info-proposal&diff=0&oldid=17510 * ManuSporny * (-50) Formatted Name -
  147. [18:33:14] <mfbot> [[audio-info-proposal]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=audio-info-proposal&diff=0&oldid=17511 * ManuSporny * (+9) XMDP Profile -
  148. [18:33:40] <mfbot> [[audio-info-proposal]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=audio-info-proposal&diff=0&oldid=17512 * ManuSporny * (+9) Simple Song Example -
  149. [18:33:56] <mfbot> [[audio-info-proposal]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=audio-info-proposal&diff=0&oldid=17513 * ManuSporny * (+5) Speech Example -
  150. [18:34:17] <mfbot> [[audio-info-proposal]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=audio-info-proposal&diff=0&oldid=17514 * ManuSporny * (+9) Complete Example -
  151. [18:36:28] <mfbot> [[audio-info-proposal]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=audio-info-proposal&diff=0&oldid=17515 * ManuSporny * (+9) Speech Example -
  152. [18:38:39] <mfbot> [[audio-info-proposal]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=audio-info-proposal&diff=0&oldid=17516 * ManuSporny * (+234) Mailing List Discussion -
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  159. [19:00:35] <taaz> mkaply: hi. i'm adding haudio support to operator. basic stuff mostly working now. operator is pretty nice for this stuff.
  160. [19:00:56] <mkaply> taaz: glad to hear it. I tried to make it easy :)
  161. [19:01:24] <taaz> well, the userscript support seems buggy.
  162. [19:01:44] <mkaply> operator 0.7 or operator 0.8a?
  163. [19:01:55] <taaz> i'm not sure if i'm going crazy or it's non-deterministic when deciding if custom datatypes should show up or not
  164. [19:01:58] <taaz> svn
  165. [19:02:18] <mkaply> ah. You're seeing occasional cases where the buttons don't light up for your types
  166. [19:02:23] <mkaply> but a reload fixes it
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  171. [19:04:01] <kingryan> taaz: are you sure you want to do that? haudio is till a very early stage draft
  172. [19:04:18] <taaz> reload of what? i think i tried every combo of reloading i could think of. i just punted the problem and am hardcoding into the addon for now. hack, rebuild, reinstall, restart... painful :)
  173. [19:08:01] <taaz> kingryan: Yeah, I'm sure. I work for Digital Bazaar. Manu, editor of the spec, is my boss. :)
  174. [19:08:45] <kingryan> taaz: ok, just realize that implementing now is taking a risk :)
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  176. [19:12:08] <taaz> someone's got to try a real implementation to iron out the bugs. it's not really that much to implement. contributor markup is useful in any case and other stuff isn't hard to change if needed
  177. [19:12:41] <taaz> and the operator schema like definition isn't too hard to change either
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  181. [19:14:04] <kingryan> taaz: I know that implementation helps (it happens to be my job :)), I'm just saying there's lots of outstanding feedback on haudio
  182. [19:14:12] <kingryan> and personally I haven't even had time to give much feedback
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  184. [19:19:05] <taaz> yeah. lots of issues. i've only really been following on the sideline.
  185. [19:20:02] <mfbot> [[events/2007-02-07-web-directions-north]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events/2007-02-07-web-directions-north&diff=0&oldid=17517 * Sj0Cbh * (-1040)
  186. [19:21:56] <taaz> mkaply: so what's the theory on userscript development process? is it supposed to be as easy as readding the script and it would reload mf types and actions without restarting the whole browser? way i'm doing it now is getting old real fast.
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  188. [19:25:05] <mkaply> if you restart a new window, it should be enough. and close the previous one
  189. [19:25:15] <mkaply> I reinit things at window load
  190. [19:28:29] <taaz> need some way to scroll too many actions too. they render themselves wider than the browser
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  199. [20:06:54] <mkaply> taaz: OK. I was away. back
  200. [20:07:08] <mkaply> taaz: yeah. That's kind of bummer. I looked at the bookmarks code to do that and it is all custom
  201. [20:07:32] <mkaply> taaz: There's other UI besides the toolbar that might be easier for you though
  202. [20:10:43] <taaz> mkaply: maybe. seems to be a few bugs though. location bar widget shows semobjs but empty menus for them and bottom status bar widget does nothing now vs doing stuff in 0.7
  203. [20:11:15] <mkaply> hmm. You might have things in a state of flux. Let me check
  204. [20:11:37] <mkaply> I hadn't finished the location bar stuff. I was working on performance
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  206. [20:12:33] <mkaply> hmm. Iy's working for me.
  207. [20:12:46] <mkaply> what version of Firefox?
  208. [20:14:37] <taaz> 2.0.0.4-1 debian package
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  210. [20:37:16] <mkaply> That's strange. I'm not seeing those issues.
  211. [20:42:16] <taaz> oh well. i'll just deal with it for now :)
  212. [20:48:38] <taaz> how are you supposed to handle actions for plural properties (pardon if my terminology is wrong)
  213. [20:49:38] <taaz> for instance, you have an haudio semantic object with multiple rel payment links. how can you display that?
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  216. [21:09:59] <mkaply> taaz: I'm not sure I understand
  217. [21:10:15] <mkaply> HTML 5 is dropping rev? Doesn't that break something?
  218. [21:11:27] <cgriego> vote links
  219. [21:11:39] * mkaply is reading http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/html5/html4-differences/Overview.html
  220. [21:17:42] <kingryan> mkaply, cgriego : for certain values of "break", yes :)
  221. [21:17:52] <kingryan> vote-links is not widely deployed
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