IRC Log for #microformats on 2007-07-12
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KevinMarks is a writer of code, limericks, weblogs
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tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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[[picoformats]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=picoformats&diff=0&oldid=18326 * Chris Messina * (+13) Added remember the milk
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[[remember-the-milk]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/remember-the-milk * Chris Messina * (+86)
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KevinMarks is a writer of code, limericks, weblogs
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Charl is Charl van Niekerk and writes about standards at http://standards.za.net/
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iand is Ian Davis who blogs at http://iandavis.com/blog
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bengee is Benjamin Nowack (http://bnode.org/)
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bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and helps with www.multipack.co.uk
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Hagfish is Any of various primitive, eel-shaped marine fishes of the family Myxinidae, having a jawless sucking mouth equipped with rasping teeth with which they bore into and feed on other fishes.
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ichigo is Thomas Schranz, developer of http://footag.com, journal at http://suitcase.at
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julianstahnke is Julian Stahnke and works for last.fm and implements microformats wherever he can
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BenWard is Ben Ward of http://ben-ward.co.uk ( 0000/ 0100 GMT) and works for Yahoo! in Europe
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bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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iand is Ian Davis who blogs at http://iandavis.com/blog
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[[measure-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=measure-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=18327 * AndyMabbett * (+216) Andy Mabbett - Wikipedia converter
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mkaply is Michael Kaply <http://www.kaply.com/weblog/> and is the developer of Operator <https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/4106/>
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sreynen is Scott Reynen, who makes things at makedatamakesense.com
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- [14:45:32] <theGZA>
anyone use the hCard?
- [14:48:27] <taaz>
yes, lots of people
- [14:53:41] <theGZA>
does anyone use a definition list for it?
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pnhChris is Chris Casciano, blogs at http://placenamehere.com/ , and a member of the Web Standards Project.
- [14:54:19] <theGZA>
i just dont like having 10-15 spans with classes
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- [14:58:37] <theGZA>
anyone?
- [15:04:02] <taaz>
what do you mean the definition list? is the spec page in the wiki enough?
- [15:04:27] <theGZA>
<dl> instead of spans/divs.
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<dl> <dt>Organization</dt> <dd class="fn org">Wikimedia Foundation Inc</dd></dl> for example
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i think it makes more sense marking it up that way
- [15:11:13] <taaz>
i think that should work. you could just try it and make sure operator and tails show the proper thing
- [15:12:21] <taaz>
the microformats site should really have some validation service to show all detected microformats at some url
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[[Main Page]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Main_Page&diff=0&oldid=18328 * AndyMabbett * (+25) microformats wiki translations in other languages - Wikipedia's article on microformats has been translated into a number of languages
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heyas :)
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[[other-languages]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=other-languages&diff=0&oldid=18329 * AndyMabbett * (+128) microformats translations elsewhere - Wikipedia's article on microformats has been translated into a number of languages
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V-I-P is a technical writer student and runs http://www.dailymentor.org and blogs at http://www.dieweisheit.de
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?forgetme
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I have expunged V-I-P from my mind
- [15:59:58] <V-I-P>
?def V-I-P likes Wirtschaftsb�cher and blogs about Wirtschaftsb�cher Zusammenfassungen at http://www.dieweisheit.de
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Nobody has defined V-I-P likes Wirtschaftsb-cher and blogs about Wirtschaftsb-cher Zusammenfassungen at http://www.dieweisheit.de yet
- [16:00:24] <V-I-P>
?def V-I-P blogs about Wirtschaftsb�cher Zusammenfassungen at http://www.dieweisheit.de
- [16:00:24] <jibot>
Nobody has defined V-I-P blogs about Wirtschaftsb-cher Zusammenfassungen at http://www.dieweisheit.de yet
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?forgetme
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I have expunged V-I-P from my mind
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?def V-I-P is a technical writer student and runs http://www.dailymentor.org and blogs at http://www.dieweisheit.de
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V-I-P is a technical writer student and runs http://www.dailymentor.org and blogs at http://www.dieweisheit.de
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very important person
- [16:01:55] <V-I-P>
right!
- [16:02:43] <V-I-P>
i tried to change my ?def but the bots only accepts my old definition. Don�t know why...
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cgriego is Chris Griego (-06:00) and a front-end architect with rd2inc.com
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ddfreyne is Denis Defreyne and blogs at http://stoneship.org/
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mkaply is Michael Kaply <http://www.kaply.com/weblog/> and is the developer of Operator <https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/4106/>
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julianstahnke is Julian Stahnke and works for last.fm and implements microformats wherever he can
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kingryan is ryan king
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KevinMarks is a writer of code, limericks, weblogs
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iand is Ian Davis who blogs at http://iandavis.com/blog
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KevinMarks is a writer of code, limericks, weblogs
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iand is Ian Davis who blogs at http://iandavis.com/blog
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quick dumb question: the "About Yourself" field in WordPress profiles. would it be appropriate to render that as an hReview of yourself ?
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- [22:03:55] <SignpostMarv>
hi tantek, mind if i repeat a question I asked earlier that's not been answered yet ?
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- [23:00:07] <SignpostMarv>
boo
- [23:00:18] <SignpostMarv>
did you get the question about hReview ?
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- [23:06:02] <V-I-P>
?def V-I-P is a technical writer student and runs http://www.dailymentor.org and blogs at http://www.dieweisheit.de
- [23:06:25] <V-I-P>
jibot sleeping ?
- [23:06:42] <V-I-P>
good idea :)
- [23:07:03] <kingryan>
SignpostMarv: yes
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- [23:07:16] <SignpostMarv>
thoughts ?
- [23:07:36] <kingryan>
would you write a review of yourself elsewhere?
- [23:07:51] <SignpostMarv>
hrm ?
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- [23:08:16] <kingryan>
would you write review of yourself on linkedin.com?
- [23:08:50] * SignpostMarv is not familiar with linkedin.com
- [23:09:00] <kingryan>
nevermind
- [23:09:26] <kingryan>
are you familar with any sites where you can endorse or review other people?
- [23:09:30] <kingryan>
familiar*
- [23:09:42] <SignpostMarv>
the question is, iif a profile editing page on a service asks you to describe yourself, is that a review of yourself
- [23:10:24] <kingryan>
I know what the question is
- [23:10:34] <kingryan>
I'm trying to help you answer it yourself :)
- [23:11:27] <SignpostMarv>
self reviewing and reviewing others aren't mutually inclusive
- [23:11:36] <kingryan>
I know
- [23:11:47] <kingryan>
I was trying to ask if you'd review yourself in another context
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- [23:12:45] <SignpostMarv>
an author giving a critique of his own work
- [23:12:58] <SignpostMarv>
or an artist
- [23:13:07] <kingryan>
you have any examples of that?
- [23:13:18] * SignpostMarv googles
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- [23:15:00] <SignpostMarv>
hrm, while i'm looking- another example
- [23:15:02] <SignpostMarv>
personal ads
- [23:15:39] <kingryan>
why not use hlisting or hresume instead?
- [23:16:09] <SignpostMarv>
hlisting ?
- [23:16:44] <SignpostMarv>
hrm
- [23:16:47] * SignpostMarv reads
- [23:19:56] * SignpostMarv implements
- [23:20:28] <SignpostMarv>
I wasn't aware of hListing :-3
- [23:20:40] <SignpostMarv>
I'll need to add it to the prim venn-diagram in SL
- [23:21:14] * SignpostMarv made a 3D venn-diagram showing how different microformats could be applied to an SL-centric website
- [23:23:01] <nambor>
ryan - did you get that email I sent you?
- [23:23:24] <nambor>
just wondering if it's worth working through those todo items?
- [23:23:32] <kingryan>
dunno, what's your email address?
- [23:24:04] <nambor>
robman@mobileonlinebusiness.com.au
- [23:24:19] <nambor>
was the vCard to hCard converter
- [23:24:55] <nambor>
i did up a multiple hCard to GMaps app too (as listed on the to-do)
- [23:24:59] <kingryan>
I'm not sure exactly what you're asking me for in the email
- [23:25:12] <nambor>
oh-kay
- [23:25:23] <nambor>
it's a javascript app like the hCard creator
- [23:25:27] <nambor>
i don't have upload privs
- [23:25:41] <nambor>
you were listed on the hCard creator as maintainer of that
- [23:25:52] <kingryan>
right, but why not host it on your own site?
- [23:25:54] <nambor>
is that something you'd want to upload to the code area too
- [23:25:57] <nambor>
fine...
- [23:26:18] <nambor>
i was trying to make it a community resource
- [23:26:23] <nambor>
but i can host it if you want
- [23:26:34] <kingryan>
I'm not opposed to putting it on microformats.org, but until I do it's worthwhile to put it on line somewhere else so that people can use it and test it
- [23:26:56] <nambor>
no probs...
- [23:27:12] <nambor>
so is there any priority list on the to-do
- [23:27:18] <nambor>
i was just trying to be helpful
- [23:27:26] <kingryan>
you are being helpful
- [23:28:03] <kingryan>
the to-do list isn't really prioritized
- [23:28:23] <kingryan>
if you're looking for something there to tackle, I'd say go for whatever looks most interesting to you
- [23:28:37] <nambor>
ok...also there seemed to be some discussion around hCard/uf in general about it being poor style to hide elements
- [23:28:56] <nambor>
but I worked up an hCard example where the hCard is displayed in an editable form
- [23:29:05] <nambor>
(e.g. view record)
- [23:29:18] <kingryan>
cool
- [23:29:29] <nambor>
just wondering if that's seen as poor style though
- [23:29:51] <nambor>
i guess I'll shoot it off to the mailing list for discussion/flame bait
- [23:30:15] <nambor>
thanks for your feedback
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- [23:32:58] <nambor>
btw: http://mobileonlinebusiness.com.au/uf/vCard_to_hCard_converter.html
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- [23:36:54] <SignpostMarv>
btw, if I'm reading hListing right, in a situation where you might hReview yourself, you use the announce tag ?
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- [23:51:10] <mfbot>
[[hcard]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard&diff=0&oldid=18330 * RobManson * (+348) Added links to the vCard to hCard converter
- [23:54:28] <nambor>
hey ryan - dumb wiki question - hcard page has a {{hcard-related-pages}} template include at the bottom - where is the content for that template pulled from?
- [23:54:52] <kingryan>
http://microformats.org/wiki/Template:hcard-related-pages
- [23:54:57] <nambor>
ta
- [23:55:48] <mfbot>
[[Template:hcard-related-pages]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Template:hcard-related-pages&diff=0&oldid=18331 * RobManson * (+119) Added links to the vCard to hCard converter
- [23:59:32] <SignpostMarv>
dumb question: why isn't listing action an <abbr>
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