IRC Log for #microformats on 2007-07-12
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KevinMarks is a writer of code, limericks, weblogs
 
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- [05:23:34] <jibot> 
tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
 
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[[picoformats]]  http://microformats.org/wiki?title=picoformats&diff=0&oldid=18326 * Chris Messina * (+13) Added remember the milk
 
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[[remember-the-milk]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/remember-the-milk * Chris Messina * (+86)
 
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- [06:03:40] <jibot> 
KevinMarks is a writer of code, limericks, weblogs
 
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Charl is Charl van Niekerk and writes about standards at http://standards.za.net/
 
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- [06:49:36] <jibot> 
iand is Ian Davis who blogs at http://iandavis.com/blog
 
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bengee is Benjamin Nowack (http://bnode.org/)
 
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- [06:58:22] <jibot> 
bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
 
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trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and helps with www.multipack.co.uk
 
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- [08:13:19] <jibot> 
Hagfish is Any of various primitive, eel-shaped marine fishes of the family Myxinidae, having a jawless sucking mouth equipped with rasping teeth with which they bore into and feed on other fishes.
 
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ichigo is Thomas Schranz, developer of http://footag.com, journal at http://suitcase.at
 
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julianstahnke is Julian Stahnke and works for last.fm and implements microformats wherever he can
 
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BenWard is Ben Ward of http://ben-ward.co.uk ( 0000/ 0100 GMT) and works for Yahoo! in Europe
 
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- [11:53:07] <jibot> 
bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
 
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iand is Ian Davis who blogs at http://iandavis.com/blog
 
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- [13:56:18] <mfbot> 
[[measure-brainstorming]]  http://microformats.org/wiki?title=measure-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=18327 * AndyMabbett * (+216) Andy Mabbett -  Wikipedia converter
 
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- [14:05:53] <jibot> 
mkaply is Michael Kaply <http://www.kaply.com/weblog/> and is the developer of Operator <https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/4106/>
 
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- [14:39:51] <jibot> 
sreynen is Scott Reynen, who makes things at makedatamakesense.com
 
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- [14:45:32] <theGZA> 
anyone use the hCard?
 
- [14:48:27] <taaz> 
yes, lots of people
 
- [14:53:41] <theGZA> 
does anyone use a definition list for it?
 
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pnhChris is Chris Casciano, blogs at http://placenamehere.com/ , and a member of the Web Standards Project.
 
- [14:54:19] <theGZA> 
i just dont like having 10-15 spans with classes
 
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- [14:58:37] <theGZA> 
anyone?
 
- [15:04:02] <taaz> 
what do you mean the definition list?  is the spec page in the wiki enough?
 
- [15:04:27] <theGZA> 
<dl> instead of spans/divs.
 
- [15:05:46] <theGZA> 
<dl> <dt>Organization</dt> <dd class="fn org">Wikimedia Foundation Inc</dd></dl> for example
 
- [15:06:56] <theGZA> 
i think it makes more sense marking it up that way
 
- [15:11:13] <taaz> 
i think that should work.  you could just try it and make sure operator and tails show the proper thing
 
- [15:12:21] <taaz> 
the microformats site should really have some validation service to show all detected microformats at some url
 
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- [15:31:07] <mfbot> 
[[Main Page]]  http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Main_Page&diff=0&oldid=18328 * AndyMabbett * (+25) microformats wiki translations in other languages -  Wikipedia's article on microformats has been translated into a number of languages
 
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- [15:35:57] <runa> 
heyas :)
 
- [15:43:48] <mfbot> 
[[other-languages]]  http://microformats.org/wiki?title=other-languages&diff=0&oldid=18329 * AndyMabbett * (+128) microformats translations elsewhere -  Wikipedia's article on microformats has been translated into a number of languages
 
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- [15:57:21] <jibot> 
V-I-P is a technical writer student and runs http://www.dailymentor.org and blogs at http://www.dieweisheit.de
 
- [15:59:43] <V-I-P> 
?forgetme
 
- [15:59:43] <jibot> 
I have expunged V-I-P from my mind
 
- [15:59:58] <V-I-P> 
?def V-I-P likes Wirtschaftsb�cher and blogs about Wirtschaftsb�cher Zusammenfassungen at http://www.dieweisheit.de
 
- [15:59:58] <jibot> 
Nobody has defined V-I-P likes Wirtschaftsb-cher and blogs about Wirtschaftsb-cher Zusammenfassungen at http://www.dieweisheit.de yet
 
- [16:00:24] <V-I-P> 
?def V-I-P blogs about Wirtschaftsb�cher Zusammenfassungen at http://www.dieweisheit.de
 
- [16:00:24] <jibot> 
Nobody has defined V-I-P blogs about Wirtschaftsb-cher Zusammenfassungen at http://www.dieweisheit.de yet
 
- [16:00:29] <V-I-P> 
?forgetme
 
- [16:00:30] <jibot> 
I have expunged V-I-P from my mind
 
- [16:00:55] <V-I-P> 
?def V-I-P is a technical writer student and runs http://www.dailymentor.org and blogs at http://www.dieweisheit.de
 
- [16:00:56] <jibot> 
V-I-P is a technical writer student and runs http://www.dailymentor.org and blogs at http://www.dieweisheit.de
 
- [16:01:41] <runa> 
very important person
 
- [16:01:55] <V-I-P> 
right!
 
- [16:02:43] <V-I-P> 
i tried to change my ?def but the bots only accepts my old definition. Don�t know why...
 
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cgriego is Chris Griego (-06:00) and a front-end architect with rd2inc.com
 
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ddfreyne is Denis Defreyne and blogs at http://stoneship.org/
 
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mkaply is Michael Kaply <http://www.kaply.com/weblog/> and is the developer of Operator <https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/4106/>
 
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julianstahnke is Julian Stahnke and works for last.fm and implements microformats wherever he can
 
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kingryan is ryan king
 
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- [18:36:56] <jibot> 
KevinMarks is a writer of code, limericks, weblogs
 
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iand is Ian Davis who blogs at http://iandavis.com/blog
 
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- [20:24:18] <jibot> 
KevinMarks is a writer of code, limericks, weblogs
 
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- [20:25:17] <jibot> 
iand is Ian Davis who blogs at http://iandavis.com/blog
 
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- [21:25:46] <SignpostMarv> 
quick dumb question: the "About Yourself" field in WordPress profiles. would it be appropriate to render that as an hReview of yourself ?
 
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- [22:03:55] <SignpostMarv> 
hi tantek, mind if i repeat a question I asked earlier that's not been answered yet ?
 
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- [23:00:07] <SignpostMarv> 
boo
 
- [23:00:18] <SignpostMarv> 
did you get the question about hReview ?
 
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- [23:06:02] <V-I-P> 
?def V-I-P is a technical writer student and runs http://www.dailymentor.org and blogs at http://www.dieweisheit.de
 
- [23:06:25] <V-I-P> 
jibot sleeping ?
 
- [23:06:42] <V-I-P> 
good idea :)
 
- [23:07:03] <kingryan> 
SignpostMarv: yes
 
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- [23:07:16] <SignpostMarv> 
thoughts ?
 
- [23:07:36] <kingryan> 
would you write a review of yourself elsewhere?
 
- [23:07:51] <SignpostMarv> 
hrm ?
 
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- [23:08:16] <kingryan> 
would you write  review of yourself on linkedin.com?
 
- [23:08:50] * SignpostMarv is not familiar with linkedin.com
 
- [23:09:00] <kingryan> 
nevermind
 
- [23:09:26] <kingryan> 
are you familar with any sites where you can endorse or review other people?
 
- [23:09:30] <kingryan> 
familiar*
 
- [23:09:42] <SignpostMarv> 
the question is, iif a profile editing page on a service asks you to describe yourself, is that a review of yourself
 
- [23:10:24] <kingryan> 
I know what the question is
 
- [23:10:34] <kingryan> 
I'm trying to help you answer it yourself :)
 
- [23:11:27] <SignpostMarv> 
self reviewing and reviewing others aren't mutually inclusive
 
- [23:11:36] <kingryan> 
I know
 
- [23:11:47] <kingryan> 
I was trying to ask if you'd review yourself in another context
 
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- [23:12:45] <SignpostMarv> 
an author giving a critique of his own work
 
- [23:12:58] <SignpostMarv> 
or an artist
 
- [23:13:07] <kingryan> 
you have any examples of that?
 
- [23:13:18] * SignpostMarv googles
 
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- [23:15:00] <SignpostMarv> 
hrm, while i'm looking- another example
 
- [23:15:02] <SignpostMarv> 
personal ads
 
- [23:15:39] <kingryan> 
why not use hlisting or hresume instead?
 
- [23:16:09] <SignpostMarv> 
hlisting ?
 
- [23:16:44] <SignpostMarv> 
hrm
 
- [23:16:47] * SignpostMarv reads
 
- [23:19:56] * SignpostMarv implements
 
- [23:20:28] <SignpostMarv> 
I wasn't aware of hListing :-3
 
- [23:20:40] <SignpostMarv> 
I'll need to add it to the prim venn-diagram in SL
 
- [23:21:14] * SignpostMarv made a 3D venn-diagram showing how different microformats could be applied to an SL-centric website
 
- [23:23:01] <nambor> 
ryan - did you get that email I sent you?
 
- [23:23:24] <nambor> 
just wondering if it's worth working through those todo items?
 
- [23:23:32] <kingryan> 
dunno, what's your email address?
 
- [23:24:04] <nambor> 
robman@mobileonlinebusiness.com.au
 
- [23:24:19] <nambor> 
was the vCard to hCard converter
 
- [23:24:55] <nambor> 
i did up a multiple hCard to GMaps app too (as listed on the to-do)
 
- [23:24:59] <kingryan> 
I'm not sure exactly what you're asking me for in the email
 
- [23:25:12] <nambor> 
oh-kay
 
- [23:25:23] <nambor> 
it's a javascript app like the hCard creator
 
- [23:25:27] <nambor> 
i don't have upload privs
 
- [23:25:41] <nambor> 
you were listed on the hCard creator as maintainer of that
 
- [23:25:52] <kingryan> 
right, but why not host it on your own site?
 
- [23:25:54] <nambor> 
is that something you'd want to upload to the code area too
 
- [23:25:57] <nambor> 
fine...
 
- [23:26:18] <nambor> 
i was trying to make it a community resource
 
- [23:26:23] <nambor> 
but i can host it if you want
 
- [23:26:34] <kingryan> 
I'm not opposed to putting it on microformats.org, but until I do it's worthwhile to put it on line somewhere else so that people can use it and test it
 
- [23:26:56] <nambor> 
no probs...
 
- [23:27:12] <nambor> 
so is there any priority list on the to-do
 
- [23:27:18] <nambor> 
i was just trying to be helpful
 
- [23:27:26] <kingryan> 
you are being helpful
 
- [23:28:03] <kingryan> 
the to-do list isn't really prioritized
 
- [23:28:23] <kingryan> 
if you're looking for something there to tackle, I'd say go for whatever looks most interesting to you
 
- [23:28:37] <nambor> 
ok...also there seemed to be some discussion around hCard/uf in general about it being poor style to hide elements
 
- [23:28:56] <nambor> 
but I worked up an hCard example where the hCard is displayed in an editable form
 
- [23:29:05] <nambor> 
(e.g. view record)
 
- [23:29:18] <kingryan> 
cool
 
- [23:29:29] <nambor> 
just wondering if that's seen as poor style though
 
- [23:29:51] <nambor> 
i guess I'll shoot it off to the mailing list for discussion/flame bait
 
- [23:30:15] <nambor> 
thanks for your feedback
 
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- [23:32:58] <nambor> 
btw: http://mobileonlinebusiness.com.au/uf/vCard_to_hCard_converter.html
 
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- [23:36:54] <SignpostMarv> 
btw, if I'm reading hListing right, in a situation where you might hReview yourself, you use the announce tag ?
 
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- [23:51:10] <mfbot> 
[[hcard]]  http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard&diff=0&oldid=18330 * RobManson * (+348) Added links to the vCard to hCard converter
 
- [23:54:28] <nambor> 
hey ryan - dumb wiki question - hcard page has a {{hcard-related-pages}} template include at the bottom - where is the content for that template pulled from?
 
- [23:54:52] <kingryan> 
http://microformats.org/wiki/Template:hcard-related-pages
 
- [23:54:57] <nambor> 
ta
 
- [23:55:48] <mfbot> 
[[Template:hcard-related-pages]]  http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Template:hcard-related-pages&diff=0&oldid=18331 * RobManson * (+119) Added links to the vCard to hCard converter
 
- [23:59:32] <SignpostMarv> 
dumb question: why isn't listing action an <abbr>
 
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