IRC Log for #microformats on 2007-07-24

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  3. [00:00:45] <WilleRaab> "Distributed Commentor Icons" <-- the header, and most of the contents.
  4. [00:07:41] <mfbot> [[hcard-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=18685 * AndyMabbett * (-779) Post vCard additions - merging like sections
  5. [00:09:22] <mfbot> [[vcard-suggestions]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=vcard-suggestions&diff=0&oldid=18686 * AndyMabbett * (+605) Deceased - merged from hCard-brainstorming
  6. [00:10:08] <mfbot> [[vcard-suggestions]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=vcard-suggestions&diff=0&oldid=18687 * AndyMabbett * (-1) Date of Death evidence - fmt
  7. [00:10:44] <mfbot> [[vcard-suggestions]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=vcard-suggestions&diff=0&oldid=18688 * Tantek * (+17) link author & format
  8. [00:11:20] <mfbot> [[hcard-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=18689 * AndyMabbett * (+166) Post vCard additions - restored from previous section
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  11. [00:12:52] <mfbot> [[hcard-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=18691 * AndyMabbett * (-285) Post vCard additions - merge like sections
  12. [00:16:03] <mfbot> [[hcard-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=18692 * AndyMabbett * (+129) TODO - +1
  13. [00:17:54] <mfbot> [[vcard-suggestions]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=vcard-suggestions&diff=0&oldid=18693 * AndyMabbett * (+2) Gender - anyone for a "typo" microformat?
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  31. [02:11:23] <jibot> Mr_Elusive is not a programmer from id but makes his home at http://eswat.ca
  32. [02:17:55] <mfbot> [[receipt-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=receipt-examples&diff=0&oldid=18694 * RobManson * (+55) Added external link to example receipt provided by Leif
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  39. [02:30:22] <jibot> miyagawa is Tatsuhiko Miyagawa, the author of Plagger <http://plagger.org> and works on Vox <http://www.vox.com> in Six Apart.
  40. [02:43:54] <nambor> tantek: I couldn't agree with you more on your points about INPUT and TEXTAREA parsing :)
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  42. [02:44:57] <nambor> so do you think it's safe to start planning to use those updates to the hCard uF?
  43. [02:45:13] <nambor> or will they have to go through some sort of group approval?
  44. [02:46:24] <tantek> it's probably reasonably safe, in that they are areas I just forgot to specify in the first place. The only key thing to do is to bring it up on microformats-dev to see if any of the parser implementers have any issues to point out
  45. [02:46:38] <tantek> they're not adding any features to hCard
  46. [02:46:49] <tantek> it's just better specifying how to handle some POSH variants ;)
  47. [02:46:51] <nambor> so michael seems happy thought 8)
  48. [02:47:09] <tantek> yes, that's certainly a good sign
  49. [02:47:22] <tantek> i'd like to get Brian Suda's feedback, especially WRT X2V
  50. [02:47:31] <tantek> and Ryan King's feedback regarding his microformats parser
  51. [02:47:40] <nambor> cool...do you want to mail the list?
  52. [02:47:42] <tantek> perhaps even Drew McClellan's feedback regarding hKit also
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  54. [02:57:01] <tantek> nambor, i was thinking of doing an audit of POSH usage in general to see if I forgot any other special elements and semantics
  55. [02:57:15] <tantek> and adding to the hcard-brainstorming page accordingly
  56. [02:57:20] <tantek> so we can consider them all at once
  57. [02:57:22] <nambor> sure
  58. [02:57:32] <nambor> and I wondered if this should be extended beyond hCard too
  59. [02:57:36] <nambor> or is that what you meant?
  60. [02:57:47] <tantek> especially since it is likely that we will apply such changes to parsing of other class-based microformats such as hCalendar and hReview
  61. [02:57:48] <tantek> yes
  62. [02:57:54] <nambor> cool
  63. [02:58:01] <nambor> let me know how I can help when you're ready
  64. [02:58:21] <tantek> would you like to take a look at the POSH pages to see if you can add to them?
  65. [02:58:26] <tantek> http://microformats.org/wiki/posh
  66. [02:58:27] <nambor> will do
  67. [02:58:49] <tantek> for example: http://microformats.org/wiki/semantic-html
  68. [02:59:05] <tantek> note: (This list is incomplete, please add!) on that page
  69. [02:59:30] <tantek> it would help to complete those lists
  70. [02:59:36] <nambor> cool...i'll spend some time on that this afternoon (AEST)
  71. [02:59:41] <tantek> thanks!
  72. [02:59:55] <tantek> be sure to add yourself to the http://microformats.org/wiki/semantic-html#Contributors
  73. [03:00:06] <nambor> aw shucks
  74. [03:00:11] <nambor> :)
  75. [03:00:56] <nambor> btw: did you see my comments about our wiki engine breaking hCard markup
  76. [03:01:04] <nambor> and probably uF markup in general
  77. [03:01:10] <tantek> I might have missed that
  78. [03:01:20] <tantek> does your wiki engine attempt to support hCard?
  79. [03:01:27] <nambor> i added my hCard to my User page and the wiki engine added loads of spurious <p/> tags
  80. [03:01:28] <tantek> perhaps add it to hcard-implementations
  81. [03:01:40] <tantek> oh you added it manually
  82. [03:01:44] <tantek> probably from the whitespace
  83. [03:01:57] <nambor> i'm extending a bunch of uF stuff into the twiki dev I'm doing - but it's the MediaWiki engine I meant
  84. [03:02:10] <nambor> when I said "our" I was talking uF :)
  85. [03:02:35] <nambor> i guess i'm starting to feel a little at home here
  86. [03:02:38] <tantek> oh
  87. [03:02:40] <tantek> heh
  88. [03:02:43] <tantek> ok
  89. [03:03:06] <tantek> in media wiki you pretty much have to use div and span to make hCards
  90. [03:03:12] <tantek> mediawiki
  91. [03:03:45] <nambor> yeah I did...but if you add returns it adds the <p/>'s so I had to run it all together on one line
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  93. [03:07:57] <tantek> that can be ok as long as you use divs around those parts
  94. [03:09:34] <nambor> see my User page - Operator picks it up ok
  95. [03:13:43] <luur> tantek: http://www.cyc.com/cyc
  96. [03:20:45] <tantek> luur, Cyc is not an AGI http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_general_intelligence#Artificial_General_Intelligence
  97. [03:21:11] <tantek> though perhaps that topic is more apropos for #singularity
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  102. [04:33:41] <jibot> bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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  106. [06:15:13] <jibot> Charl is Charl van Niekerk and writes about standards at http://standards.za.net/
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  109. [06:20:34] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  112. [06:23:28] <jibot> bengee is Benjamin Nowack (http://bnode.org/)
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  120. [06:55:44] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  127. [07:26:55] <jibot> bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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  130. [07:36:55] <jibot> Charl is Charl van Niekerk and writes about standards at http://standards.za.net/
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  132. [07:51:02] <jibot> trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and helps with www.multipack.co.uk
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  135. [07:56:01] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  140. [09:13:45] <jibot> BenWard is Ben Ward of http://ben-ward.co.uk ( 0000/ 0100 GMT) and works for Yahoo! in Europe
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  142. [09:13:58] <jibot> julianstahnke is Julian Stahnke and works for Last.fm and can be found at julianstahnke.com
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  148. [10:24:30] <mfbot> [[hcard-examples-in-wild]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-examples-in-wild&diff=0&oldid=18699 * Sycha * (-332) Examples with some problems -
  149. [10:30:36] <mfbot> [[hcard-examples-in-wild]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-examples-in-wild&diff=0&oldid=18700 * Sycha * (+452) New Examples -
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  160. [11:27:16] <jibot> V-I-P is a technical writer student and runs http://www.dailymentor.org and blogs at http://www.dieweisheit.de
  161. [11:27:50] <V-I-P> ?forgetme
  162. [11:27:50] <jibot> I have expunged V-I-P from my mind
  163. [11:28:22] * julianstahnke (n=julianst@last.fm/staff/wurstkind) Quit ("Schönen Tag noch!")
  164. [11:31:02] <V-I-P> ?def V-I-P blogs at http://www.dieweisheit.de and http://www.lasikreport.de
  165. [11:31:02] <jibot> Nobody has defined V-I-P blogs at http://www.dieweisheit.de and http://www.lasikreport.de yet
  166. [11:34:16] <V-I-P> ?def V-I-P blogs about lasik laseroperation at http://www.lasikreport.de
  167. [11:34:16] <jibot> Nobody has defined V-I-P blogs about lasik laseroperation at http://www.lasikreport.de yet
  168. [11:34:21] <V-I-P> !damn
  169. [11:34:26] <V-I-P> ?forgetme
  170. [11:34:27] <jibot> I have expunged V-I-P from my mind
  171. [11:34:46] <V-I-P> ?def V-I-P is a technical writer student and runs http://www.dailymentor.org and
  172. [11:34:46] <V-I-P> blogs at http://www.dieweisheit.de
  173. [11:34:46] <jibot> V-I-P is a technical writer student and runs http://www.dailymentor.org and
  174. [11:35:07] <V-I-P> ?forgetme
  175. [11:35:07] <jibot> I have expunged V-I-P from my mind
  176. [11:35:10] <SignpostMarv> line feed
  177. [11:35:10] <V-I-P> ?def V-I-P is a technical writer student and runs http://www.dailymentor.org and blogs at http://www.dieweisheit.de
  178. [11:35:10] <jibot> V-I-P is a technical writer student and runs http://www.dailymentor.org and blogs at http://www.dieweisheit.de
  179. [11:35:18] <V-I-P> ok
  180. [11:35:52] <SignpostMarv> VIP, wouldn't it be a good idea to register dailyment.or ?
  181. [11:36:23] <SignpostMarv> whoops
  182. [11:36:33] <SignpostMarv> word wrap problem :-P
  183. [11:36:43] <SignpostMarv> thought your site address was dailymentor.or :-P
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  186. [11:46:33] <V-I-P> i never saw a *.or domainname
  187. [11:49:28] <SignpostMarv> my XChat window is at just the right width to make the g in dailymentor.org wrap onto the next line
  188. [11:50:01] <V-I-P> k
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  192. [12:32:12] <jibot> WilleRaab is a developer of and lecturer on democracy methods and tools http://microformats.org/wiki/User:WilleRaab
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  199. [13:26:56] <mfbot> [[semantic-xhtml]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=semantic-xhtml&diff=0&oldid=18702 * RobManson * (+32) Added myself as a contributor
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  203. [13:51:15] <briansuda> is Rob Manson around?
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  207. [13:53:21] <briansuda> his last edit to the wiki was to add <!-- --> comment as a semantic element?
  208. [13:53:38] <nambor> hi
  209. [13:54:25] <nambor> comment has a semantic meaning doesn't it - although I admit it's not displayed :)
  210. [13:56:27] <nambor> brian?
  211. [13:59:45] <SignpostMarv> <![CDATA[ ]]> not more semantic than <!-- --> ?
  212. [14:00:25] <briansuda> i think the intent of that list is for elements to give meaning to the data.
  213. [14:00:47] <briansuda> a comment is not really anything, you can process it, it is not really even meta data
  214. [14:00:58] <nambor> tantek just asked me to flesh out the list and I was trying to be thorough - but I'm not emotionally attached to the comment plugin ;)
  215. [14:01:01] <briansuda> i wouldn´t advice the use of comment for data
  216. [14:01:07] <SignpostMarv> comment / CDATA = "do not parse this shit"
  217. [14:01:22] <briansuda> i didn´t want to revert right away, to see if there was a good reason
  218. [14:01:33] <nambor> well..."do not parse" for display
  219. [14:01:40] <nambor> but not necessarily for spiders etc.
  220. [14:01:43] <briansuda> CDATA is useful for passing HTML inside XML
  221. [14:01:55] <nambor> depends upon your perspective on "semantic"
  222. [14:02:04] <briansuda> a good HTML scrubber will strip comments, but not CDATA
  223. [14:02:07] <nambor> meaning is very context sensitive
  224. [14:02:26] <nambor> but i'm happy to delete that one...I think the rest are right though
  225. [14:03:00] <briansuda> i was looking for a TALK page, so we could leave it there as a MAYBE
  226. [14:03:15] <SignpostMarv> last I checked, the microformats wiki didn't have talk pages :P
  227. [14:03:30] <briansuda> that is probably why i could not find it
  228. [14:03:30] <SignpostMarv> either that or it hides them bloody well
  229. [14:03:42] <briansuda> although i rememebr reverting spam from some...
  230. [14:03:43] <nambor> i was wondering about the higher level elements too?
  231. [14:04:02] <nambor> frames, noframes, script, style, etc...
  232. [14:04:12] <nambor> i mean it all depends upon the goal of that list
  233. [14:04:49] <nambor> i think i'll take out comment and leave the list focused on display-able elements
  234. [14:05:06] <SignpostMarv> html style{ display: block ;} :-P
  235. [14:06:03] <mfbot> [[semantic-xhtml]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=semantic-xhtml&diff=0&oldid=18703 * RobManson * (-24) Removed comment tag to focus this list on display-able things
  236. [14:06:21] <nambor> if anyone can see any that i missed please add them...
  237. [14:06:44] <nambor> i'm off to bed...g' night
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  240. [14:12:41] <WilleRaab> What about object - oughtn't that be there as well?
  241. [14:13:52] <briansuda> what meaning does that convey?
  242. [14:14:31] <briansuda> i think (i could be wrong) the list is more for elements such as <OL> that has meaning to the list items
  243. [14:15:04] <briansuda> otherwise, every element would be on there....
  244. [14:15:08] <WilleRaab> Yeah, that's what I thought as well. But shouldn't object be possible to use for images? And img is in there...
  245. [14:15:10] <briansuda> which it currently looks like
  246. [14:15:25] <briansuda> yeah... i´m not sure the intent of that list anymore...
  247. [14:16:23] <briansuda> yeah go ahead and add OBJECT and AREA
  248. [14:16:32] <WilleRaab> k
  249. [14:19:55] <mfbot> [[semantic-xhtml]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=semantic-xhtml&diff=0&oldid=18704 * WilleRaab * (+25) Semantic Elements - Added object (>map > area)
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  380. [22:40:21] <nambor> Hey Leif...how's it going?
  381. [22:42:56] <nambor> Just wondering what you view of bills/invoices vs receipts was?
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  383. [22:46:40] <Leif> good thanks! How are you doing?
  384. [22:47:25] <Leif> IMHO bills and invoices are paid/unpaid counterparts of eachother. Was there anything specific you were thinking of?
  385. [22:48:19] <Leif> I liked SignPostMary's suggestion of creating one format but including a flag for "paid".
  386. [22:48:53] <nambor> mmm...they have different components though
  387. [22:48:55] <nambor> e.g. due date
  388. [22:49:02] <nambor> invoice number then receipt number
  389. [22:50:36] <nambor> gotta go to a meeting...but would like to discuss this more later if you're around
  390. [22:50:39] <nambor> see ya
  391. [22:50:42] <Leif> True. The main problem for us is that we have no examples of on-line invoices so far. :(
  392. [22:50:50] <Leif> see you around!
  393. [23:04:34] <sreynen> Leif, i'm a wiki admin, did you need something?
  394. [23:05:04] <mfbot> [[twitternanoformats]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=twitternanoformats&diff=0&oldid=18728 * TekeTen * (+123) 2nanoformats (syntax:param) -
  395. [23:07:05] <Leif> Hey Scott!
  396. [23:07:35] <Leif> Thanks for responding. I was wondering why this MediaWiki installation has the "Show changes" button disabled.
  397. [23:09:08] <sreynen> i'm not sure i can answer that. where is that button?
  398. [23:09:45] <sreynen> is that this? http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Special:Recentchangeslinked&target=Main_Page
  399. [23:11:27] <Leif> Sorry, I was thinking of the editing page. There are usually three buttons: Save Page, Show Preview, and Show Changes.
  400. [23:12:22] <sreynen> ah, i see that in wikipedia now
  401. [23:12:35] <sreynen> sorry, i have no idea why the microformats wiki doesn't have that
  402. [23:13:02] <Leif> So it hasn't been turned off then?
  403. [23:14:00] <sreynen> i doubt it, but i think ryan king does the mediawiki customization
  404. [23:14:10] <sreynen> i just delete spam
  405. [23:14:23] <Leif> OK, I'm glad you do that. :)
  406. [23:14:37] <Leif> Maybe it's because the mf wiki runs on a legacy version of MediaWiki (1.4.2)
  407. [23:15:21] <Leif> In the MediaWiki world, 2005 is old. ;)
  408. [23:15:28] <sreynen> yeah, i know there have been some customizations, so that probably makes it a bit complicated to update
  409. [23:16:20] <Leif> Maybe; it depends on how they were done.
  410. [23:16:27] <Leif> Thanks for your response!
  411. [23:17:04] <sreynen> no problem. hopefully ryan can give you a more complete answer
  412. [23:17:40] <Leif> I'll see how annoyed I get, then maybe hunt him down. :)
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