IRC Log for #microformats on 2008-03-04

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  58. [07:38:51] <jibot> bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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  63. [08:39:35] <jibot> iand is Ian Davis who blogs at http://iandavis.com/blog
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  65. [08:47:19] <jibot> tommorris is a semantic web geek (with a philosophy degree, naturally), lives in East Sussex, UK, is something of a strange quark (strangeness value: -1) and blogs at http://tommorris.org
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  67. [09:02:06] <jibot> trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and helps with www.multipack.co.uk
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  72. [09:36:29] <jibot> bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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  75. [09:57:57] <mfbot> [[User:JojaBa]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:JojaBa&diff=0&oldid=26085 * JojaBa * (+14)
  76. [10:26:29] <mfbot> [[User:TobyInk/hcalendar-1.1]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:TobyInk/hcalendar-1.1&diff=0&oldid=26086 * AndyMabbett * (-4) spelling (NOTE: changes a class name); RFC 2119 templates
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  79. [10:30:40] <mfbot> [[User:TobyInk/hcalendar-1.1]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:TobyInk/hcalendar-1.1&diff=0&oldid=26087 * AndyMabbett * (+249) Discussion appears to have been bypassed (& typo in original comment)
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  86. [12:26:20] <jibot> BenWard is Ben Ward of http://ben-ward.co.uk ( 0000/ 0100 GMT)
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  96. [14:17:06] <jibot> iand is Ian Davis who blogs at http://iandavis.com/blog
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  120. [15:55:26] <jibot> ajturner is Andrew Turner, a simulation and geolocation nut who blogs at http://highearthorbit.com
  121. [15:55:31] <emrojo> validating microformats
  122. [15:56:05] <emrojo> i have seen this: http://norman.walsh.name/2006/04/13/validatingMicroformats
  123. [15:56:52] <emrojo> although it's seems to be an ad-hoc method, are there another works on this theme?
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  125. [16:00:15] <jibot> mkaply is Michael Kaply <http://www.kaply.com/weblog/> and is the developer of Operator <https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/4106/>
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  128. [16:01:54] <jibot> bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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  136. [16:52:49] <mfbot> [[events/2008-london-microformats-vevent]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events/2008-london-microformats-vevent&diff=0&oldid=26089 * Tonys * (+27)
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  138. [16:55:20] <mfbot> [[User:Tony]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/User:Tony * Tonys * (+35)
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  147. [17:28:03] <jibot> ajturner is Andrew Turner, a simulation and geolocation nut who blogs at http://highearthorbit.com
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  150. [17:34:06] <mephtu> hello
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  155. [17:40:22] <jibot> kingryan is ryan king
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  158. [17:43:38] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  160. [17:46:06] <jibot> drewinthehead is the author of hKit and a developer at http://edgeofmyseat.com
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  162. [17:46:13] <drewinthehead> greetings
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  164. [17:56:35] <mfbot> [[hcalendar-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=26090 * TobyInk * (+166) X-WR-CALNAME -
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  168. [18:05:33] <jibot> pjkix is PJ Khalil a Web Developer in SF and can be found online at http://pjkix.com
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  171. [18:07:50] <mfbot> [[Special:Log/block]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Special:Log/block&diff=0&oldid=0 * RyanKing * (+0) blocked "User:AndyMabbett" with an expiry time of 18 months: 18 month ban
  172. [18:09:26] <mfbot> [[mailing-lists]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=mailing-lists&diff=0&oldid=26091 * Tantek * (+922) added src:A to guidelines created due to one or more actions by Andy Mabbett
  173. [18:09:27] <mfbot> [[how-to-play]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=how-to-play&diff=0&oldid=26092 * Tantek * (+1436) added src:A to guidelines created due to one or more actions by Andy Mabbett, restored need for list of text-reading software affected.
  174. [18:11:08] <mfbot> [[how-to-play]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=how-to-play&diff=0&oldid=26093 * Tantek * (+90) added another src:A for massive cleanup on the wiki
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  179. [18:20:44] <jibot> pjkix is PJ Khalil a Web Developer in SF and can be found online at http://pjkix.com
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  181. [18:27:36] <mkaply> Are we having a meetup at sxsw?
  182. [18:30:56] <kingryan> mkaply: we should
  183. [18:31:07] <kingryan> I don't think anyone's planned anything though
  184. [18:31:39] <tantek> mkaply are you going to sxsw this year?
  185. [18:32:06] <mkaply> If IBM pony's up some funds. But I live here, so I'll be in the neighborhood. And dropping by for the facebook event and the mozilla event
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  190. [18:40:13] <tantek> alright here is a modest proposal. SXSW microformats meetup Saturday March 8th, 6-7pm, in a corner of the main hallways where all the 5pm sessions will pour out into. just after sessions finish, but before grabbing dinner / going to parties. thoughts?
  191. [18:41:21] <mkaply> I wonder how far I can get in without a badge? Can I just not go to the sessions?
  192. [18:41:49] <tantek> it may be possible, certainly after the sessions are over for the day.
  193. [18:42:06] <tantek> any one of us with on a panel should also be able to get you a day pass
  194. [18:42:23] <tantek> which you may want as well, as there will be a few sessions (e.g. social network portability) that will be touching on microformats
  195. [18:42:36] <mkaply> The other thing I thought was meeting at this
  196. [18:42:36] <mkaply> The other thing I ghouthg
  197. [18:42:40] <mkaply> http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/418886/
  198. [18:43:11] <mkaply> Considering how many time microformats is mentioned :
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  200. [18:48:41] <tantek> perhaps we can do the microformats community meetup at the convention center from 6-7pm and then head over to the GeekAustin SXSW happy hour since they are heavy on the microformats mentions
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  202. [18:49:30] <mkaply> Sounds good to me. Who all is going to be at SXSW besides you an ryan?
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  208. [18:59:24] <kingryan> ^ add yourself to that page if you're going
  209. [18:59:45] <mfbot> [[events/2008-03-07-sxsw-interactive]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events/2008-03-07-sxsw-interactive&diff=0&oldid=26094 * RyanKing * (+1) attendees -
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  218. [19:19:53] <mfbot> [[events/2008-03-07-sxsw-interactive]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events/2008-03-07-sxsw-interactive&diff=0&oldid=26096 * Tantek * (+1)
  219. [19:20:30] <mfbot> [[events/2008-03-10-sxsw-portability-panel]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events/2008-03-10-sxsw-portability-panel&diff=0&oldid=26097 * Tantek * (+64) link to grouping event.
  220. [19:21:41] <mfbot> [[events/2008-03-07-sxsw-interactive]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events/2008-03-07-sxsw-interactive&diff=0&oldid=26098 * Tantek * (+122) tweak intro
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  224. [19:39:37] <mkaply> tantek: My information on extended-address says that it is singular, not plural. What's yoru opinon? - from vcard: http://www.w3.org/2006/vcard/vcard.xml
  225. [19:39:42] <mkaply> http://www.w3.org/2006/vcard/vcard.xml
  226. [19:39:46] <mkaply> Address can have at most 1 v:extended-address property. A v:Address
  227. [19:39:46] <mkaply> can have at most 1 v:street-address property
  228. [19:40:09] <mfbot> [[hcalendar-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar-examples&diff=0&oldid=26099 * Tantek * (+79) TOC-right, see also hcalendar-examples-in-wild, fix RFC2445 references.
  229. [19:40:57] <tantek> mkaply - those are new rules introduce in vCardXML that do not have any basis in vCard RFC2426
  230. [19:41:03] <tantek> AFAIK
  231. [19:42:09] <mkaply> That's the only reference I could find. Basically I need to know what it "should be" and I couldn't find anything in any spec.
  232. [19:42:40] <mkaply> although our page says
  233. [19:42:46] <mkaply> Singular properties: 'fn', 'n', 'bday', 'tz', 'geo', 'sort-string', 'uid', 'class'. For properties which are singular, the first descendant element with that class SHOULD take effect, any others being ignored.
  234. [19:42:46] <mkaply> All other properties MAY be plural. Each class instance of such properties creates a new instance of that property.
  235. [19:42:46] <tantek> http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard#Singular_vs._Plural_Properties
  236. [19:42:53] <tantek> correct
  237. [19:43:24] <tantek> for reasons why, see: http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard#Singular_and_Plural_derivations
  238. [19:43:37] <mkaply> oops
  239. [19:43:42] <mkaply> Singular Properties
  240. [19:43:42] <mkaply> Note that all the properties in adr are singular properties, and thus the first descendant element with that class should take effect, any others being ignored.
  241. [19:43:44] <mkaply> http://microformats.org/wiki/adr
  242. [19:44:00] <tantek> oops indeed
  243. [19:44:21] <mkaply> actually, the hcard spec wouldn't cover adr subproperties
  244. [19:44:26] <mkaply> for instance, country-name is singular
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  246. [19:44:32] <mkaply> as is postal-code, region
  247. [19:44:34] <mkaply> locality
  248. [19:44:39] <mkaply> post-office-box
  249. [19:44:42] <tantek> how are you determining that?
  250. [19:44:52] <tantek> according to what statement in what spec?
  251. [19:45:10] <mkaply> I was thinking more logical. When would you have more than one country in an address?
  252. [19:45:21] <tantek> it appears that the erroneous singular property assertion in the "adr" spec is my fault: http://microformats.org/wiki?title=adr&oldid=1745#adr
  253. [19:45:30] <mkaply> or more than one post-office-box?
  254. [19:46:12] <tantek> mkaply, in that case, we should document that analysis *first* rather than asserting it as a rule.
  255. [19:46:18] <tantek> that's what Ryan King and I did with hCard
  256. [19:46:25] <tantek> and we documented our analyses here: http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard-singular-properties
  257. [19:46:37] <tantek> perhaps you could draft a new page: http://microformats.org/wiki/adr-singular-properties
  258. [19:46:45] <tantek> and document your logical analysis there?
  259. [19:46:52] <tantek> that would be a good way to start solving this problem.
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  262. [19:48:08] <tantek> Ryan and I basically analyzed both the language of the hCard specification, and did logical analysis on the semantics of each property to determine its singular vs. plural status. We wanted to minimize the introduction of new rules/assumptions as much as possible. Relying upon only the vCard specification and logical reasoning seemed the best way to do so.
  263. [19:49:49] <tantek> sorry, I meant "language of the *vCard* specification*"
  264. [19:51:48] <mfbot> [[hcard-singular-properties]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-singular-properties&diff=0&oldid=26100 * Tantek * (+517) documented reasoning and methodology
  265. [19:52:41] <mkaply> The problem is I have no runway. I'm trying to decide what to do for FF3.
  266. [19:52:59] <mfbot> [[adr-singular-properties]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/adr-singular-properties * MikeKaply * (+730)
  267. [19:53:49] <tantek> understood.
  268. [19:55:40] <tantek> BTW, this http://www.w3.org/2006/vcard/ has numerous violations of our principles, including needless creation of new terms, e.g. "Name" for "n", "Address" for "adr", "Organization" for "org", "Location" for "geo" (that's really bad),
  269. [19:56:41] <tantek> And I question all singularity assertions in that document, because it has some clearly flawed ones, e.g. "A v:Name can have at most 1 v:additional-name property." - we've seen many examples where people have multiple "middle" names for example. This is a really bad introduction/invention of a constraint not included nor even implied by vCard OR hCard.
  270. [19:57:08] <tantek> I blame XML / XML-Schema.
  271. [19:57:35] <tantek> I suppose I should document this somewhere...
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  273. [19:57:55] <mkaply> please do. I only found it I think because I search on "vcard singular" or something like that
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  276. [20:12:02] <mfbot> [[rfc-2426]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=rfc-2426&diff=0&oldid=26101 * Tantek * (+1373) added other variants, An Ontology for vCards, Representing vCard Objects in RDF/XML, noted problems with those variants
  277. [20:13:56] <tantek> mkaply, thanks for pointing out that other variant
  278. [20:14:07] <tantek> I've documented two other vCard variants now, along with issues/problems.
  279. [20:14:59] <mfbot> [[hcard]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard&diff=0&oldid=26102 * Tantek * (-26) Reverted edit of CoorvIracc, changed back to last version by Tantek
  280. [20:16:12] <mfbot> [[adr]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=adr&diff=0&oldid=26103 * Tantek * (+55) fixed singular properties section, removed erroneous/unbased assertion of all singular properties (my bad?), added link to hCard singular props, and analysis in progress
  281. [20:16:33] <tantek> mkaply, thanks for the analysis in progress, now linked to from the "adr" spec
  282. [20:18:38] <mfbot> [[adr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=adr&diff=0&oldid=26104 * Tantek * (+158) updated affiliation, added inline hCard
  283. [20:19:19] <mfbot> [[Special:Log/block]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Special:Log/block&diff=0&oldid=0 * Tantek * (+0) blocked "User:CoorvIracc" with an expiry time of infinite: vandalism
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  296. [20:59:29] <mfbot> [[hcalendar-faq]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar-faq&diff=0&oldid=26105 * Tantek * (+1703) added permalinkable headings for qs, rm dup/misplaced hCard FAQ, rm dup re: repeated events (ironic), grouped qs, reordered by best guess at frequency (highest first), add q&a re hCalendar in a table
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  300. [21:35:46] <jibot> ajturner is Andrew Turner, a simulation and geolocation nut who blogs at http://highearthorbit.com
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  304. [21:47:30] <mkaply> tantek: just got the OK for SXSW
  305. [21:47:53] <mkaply> Won't be attending anything on Sat or Sun though (just the meetup sat night) - i'll be there Mon/Tues
  306. [21:57:57] <tantek> cool. add yourself: http://microformats.org/wiki/events/2008-03-07-sxsw-interactive
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  308. [22:07:30] <mfbot> [[events/2008-03-07-sxsw-interactive]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events/2008-03-07-sxsw-interactive&diff=0&oldid=26106 * Tantek * (+63) dates attending
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  321. [22:27:44] <mkaply> what a crappy rel link
  322. [22:27:45] <mkaply> <LINK href="http://www.blogger.com/profile/00257888886038845883" rel="me"/>
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  324. [22:33:06] <tantek> indeed: "Profile Not Available"
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  329. [22:49:06] <mkaply> What should I do in my UI if I have a rel link that has no content?
  330. [22:49:36] <tantek> probably depends somewhat on the specific rel microformat
  331. [22:50:49] <tantek> if you mean rel="me" (per the above example), you could still provide a UI to show Google Social Graph API results on the href
  332. [22:52:00] <tantek> specifically, the "Site Connectivity" demo
  333. [22:53:03] <tantek> e.g.http://socialgraph-resources.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/samples/findyours.html?q=http%3A%2F%2Ftantek.com%2F
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  336. [22:57:01] <mfbot> [[hcalendar-faq]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar-faq&diff=0&oldid=26108 * TobyInk * (+156) not supported currently -
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  338. [22:58:29] <mkaply> I provide a UI for the link though. Like a name or something. Usually those are in an <a> tag
  339. [22:58:34] <mkaply> ah well
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  341. [22:59:25] <tantek> oh right
  342. [22:59:37] <tantek> on <link> there should be a 'title' attribute suitable for using
  343. [22:59:46] <tantek> with human readable text
  344. [23:00:25] <tantek> lacking that, perhaps something simple and literal like "rel me link"
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  349. [23:44:52] <mfbot> [[hcalendar-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=26109 * Tantek * (+4290) added brainstorming for grouping events, thanks to TobyInk's noticing of the RELATED-TO property
  350. [23:45:43] <mfbot> [[hcalendar-faq]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar-faq&diff=0&oldid=26110 * Tantek * (+43) updated groups of events Q to reference hCalendar brainstorming to figure out
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