IRC Log for #microformats on 2008-03-06

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  10. [00:37:47] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  28. [01:45:03] <jibot> pnhChris is Chris Casciano, blogs at http://placenamehere.com/ , and a member of the Web Standards Project.
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  31. [02:08:02] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  42. [02:44:05] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  48. [02:57:46] <jibot> ajturner is Andrew Turner, a simulation and geolocation nut who blogs at http://highearthorbit.com and a neogeographer and is co-founder of Mapufacture
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  55. [03:38:34] <jibot> ajturner is Andrew Turner, a simulation and geolocation nut who blogs at http://highearthorbit.com and a neogeographer and is co-founder of Mapufacture
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  78. [04:27:42] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  92. [07:04:32] <jibot> SignpostMarv is a WordPress, Second Life and OpenID geek
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  101. [07:36:24] <jibot> bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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  107. [09:00:36] <jibot> trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and helps with www.multipack.co.uk
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  119. [09:52:27] <jibot> iand is Ian Davis who blogs at http://iandavis.com/blog
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  142. [12:32:48] <jibot> mkaply is Michael Kaply <http://www.kaply.com/weblog/> and is the developer of Operator <https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/4106/>
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  145. [12:51:01] <jibot> tommorris is a semantic web geek (with a philosophy degree, naturally), lives in East Sussex, UK, is something of a strange quark (strangeness value: -1) and blogs at http://tommorris.org
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  150. [13:15:22] <jibot> julianstahnke is a German front-end dev for Last.fm and lives in London and wants a play button next to every mentioning of an audio track on the internet
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  156. [13:52:48] <jibot> iand is Ian Davis who blogs at http://iandavis.com/blog
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  163. [14:40:50] <mephtu> hello
  164. [14:41:49] <mephtu> if anybody reads the chat log, the mailing list server is not working. I can't get any response.
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  168. [15:06:08] <jibot> bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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  177. [15:51:16] <mfbot> [[Talk:why-examples]] MN http://microformats.org/wiki/Talk:why-examples * Jg1Trk * (+11843)
  178. [16:07:14] <mfbot> [[Talk:why-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Talk:why-examples&diff=0&oldid=26125 * TobyInk * (-11843) SPAM deleted
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  180. [16:07:57] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  182. [16:33:12] <tantek> greetings, if you are at SXSW, join check out #sxsw as well.
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  194. [17:04:52] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  198. [17:25:52] <aconbere> has anyone here put any thought into making xsl transforms for moving all the microformats into a canonical rdf/xml representation?
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  216. [18:15:42] <bewest> aconbere: yes
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  218. [18:16:36] <bewest> aconbere: as a matter of fact, there's a spec at the w3 called grddl that standardizes the protocol for doing so
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  220. [18:17:19] <aconbere> hmmm I didn't realize that's what grddle did
  221. [18:17:46] <bewest> aconbere: http://triplr.org/ntriples/www.microformats.org/
  222. [18:17:53] <bewest> see http://triplr.org
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  225. [18:19:35] <emrojo> aconbere: grddl is for extracting rdf from microformats using xslt, so i think that is what you are looking for
  226. [18:20:29] <bewest> aconbere: meta data profiles are an important link in the chain for instructing agents on which strategy to select... I think there are some outstanding todo items in that area, if this is something your interested in...
  227. [18:20:41] <aconbere> hehe
  228. [18:20:45] <bewest> :-D
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  230. [18:20:59] <aconbere> I'm just fed up with some of the crappy parsers for stuff I'm converting microformats into
  231. [18:21:18] <aconbere> but I played with redland this weekend
  232. [18:21:22] <bewest> ah... if you are parsing html, I recommend using something like htm5lib
  233. [18:21:29] <aconbere> we've had this talk :)
  234. [18:21:31] <bewest> and reserializing to an XML serialization
  235. [18:21:32] <bewest> oh
  236. [18:21:35] <bewest> heh
  237. [18:21:40] <aconbere> that's not the problem
  238. [18:21:48] <aconbere> once I get the microformats into an xml representation
  239. [18:21:57] <aconbere> then I can xsl then into their canonical formats
  240. [18:22:03] <aconbere> (vcal/vcard etc.)
  241. [18:22:05] <aconbere> (atom)
  242. [18:22:17] <aconbere> but then I get to use crappy parsers of those data types
  243. [18:22:26] <bewest> really?
  244. [18:22:36] <aconbere> really what?
  245. [18:22:49] <bewest> crappy parsers for the interesting objects
  246. [18:22:55] <bewest> in canonical form
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  249. [18:23:07] <aconbere> yeah well in python in particular the vcard and vcal parser vObject sucks
  250. [18:23:12] <bewest> ah
  251. [18:23:22] <bewest> I haven't looked at that yet
  252. [18:23:25] <aconbere> that being said, parsing rdf with redland
  253. [18:23:31] <aconbere> is stupidly simple
  254. [18:23:37] <bewest> nice
  255. [18:23:59] <aconbere> so since there aren't canonical formats for many of teh data types
  256. [18:24:07] <aconbere> (xfn, xoxo, etc.)
  257. [18:24:18] <aconbere> I was looking at ways to get them into nice parsable formats anyway
  258. [18:24:32] <aconbere> and then I though "crap... this would all probably be more easily done in rdf"
  259. [18:25:13] <aconbere> so if there were a set of xsl or grdl documents to turn any microformat into an rdf document then your parser would be really simple
  260. [18:25:18] <tantek> aconbere - it's not more easily done, because most of the "doing" is publishing, which is much more of a pain with rdf than html.
  261. [18:25:26] <tantek> which is why microformats exist at all
  262. [18:25:30] <aconbere> tantek: right
  263. [18:25:31] <tantek> people prefer publishing in html
  264. [18:25:38] <aconbere> tantek: sorry that might have been confusing
  265. [18:25:45] <aconbere> tantek: I'm talking about digesting only
  266. [18:25:49] <tantek> ah
  267. [18:26:16] <aconbere> tantek: publishing I think is fine, but I was at an Social Network Portability conference last week (talking with ben ward and dan brickley)
  268. [18:26:33] <aconbere> and I think right now we've got a lot of publishers (good) and not as many digesters (working on that)
  269. [18:26:48] <aconbere> and so Dan and I were talking about some of the things that would help make digestion easier
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  271. [18:26:52] <tantek> right, we've solved the more important side of the chicken & egg problem
  272. [18:26:56] <tantek> which is publishing
  273. [18:26:57] <aconbere> yes :)
  274. [18:27:28] <aconbere> so one of the ideas way creating a set of test cases that list the expected output in triples
  275. [18:27:40] <aconbere> (that way you could prove that your parser got the right data out)
  276. [18:27:49] <tantek> the thinking along those lines has been to create some canonical JSON representations
  277. [18:28:06] <tantek> since more people understand how to manipulate JSON (publish and parse) than RDF
  278. [18:28:16] <aconbere> sure
  279. [18:28:30] <tantek> for exactly the reason you give - prove that your parser got the right data out
  280. [18:28:39] <aconbere> my only fear would be that the tools for translating the mf markup into json might not be as robust as into xml/rdf
  281. [18:28:45] <tantek> i believe there's been some discussion of that on the microformats-dev list - check the archives
  282. [18:29:21] <tantek> with more and more APIs going to JSON (and abandoning XML), I see the trend as more robustness with JSON than XML (whether RDF/XML or some other flavor)
  283. [18:29:40] <bewest> re canonical structurs, xoxo has native representations in most languages: nested lists and hashes
  284. [18:29:56] <tantek> yes that's a good point bewest
  285. [18:30:17] <aconbere> I mean... don't get me wrong, I love JSON
  286. [18:30:43] <aconbere> and if someone made a xsl transform that turned an hCard into a JSON representation
  287. [18:30:51] <aconbere> I would be overjoyed :)
  288. [18:30:52] <tantek> JSON is becoming the lingua franca of machine data on the web
  289. [18:31:04] <tantek> as HTML has already become the lingua franca of human data on the Web
  290. [18:31:08] <bewest> aconbere: I think google did that, mostly
  291. [18:31:14] <aconbere> hmmmm
  292. [18:31:41] <bewest> seen their social graph api?
  293. [18:31:49] <aconbere> yes
  294. [18:31:55] <aconbere> but it kind of sucks :)
  295. [18:32:05] <aconbere> I'm sure they'll build on it though
  296. [18:32:22] <tantek> aconbere - why? i think it is quite impressive.
  297. [18:32:45] <aconbere> tantek I have a couple of problems with it, number one is that it doesn't do a very good job of telling you where it found the data
  298. [18:33:01] <aconbere> (so correcting mistakes is very difficult)
  299. [18:33:06] <tantek> afterall, it's an API for the *whole* Web that they crawl, not just a google.com silo.
  300. [18:33:18] <tantek> um, the where is implicit since it is all URLs
  301. [18:33:30] <tantek> XFN data is found at the URLs that it relates between
  302. [18:33:36] <tantek> that's partly what makes it so simple
  303. [18:33:55] <tantek> rather than abstract 3rd party assertions from some random location that are inherently untrustworthy
  304. [18:33:57] <tantek> ahem
  305. [18:34:10] <aconbere> I'll have to dig up the example I was using
  306. [18:36:20] <aconbere> but yeah it's nice
  307. [18:36:42] <aconbere> but it's not at a level that I would want to use it yet
  308. [18:38:32] <aconbere> bewest: they "do" that for some formats but certainly haven't releaesed a set of xsl documents so /I/ can parse microformats
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  317. [19:42:40] <jibot> DanC_lap is DanC on his laptop.
  318. [19:42:48] * DanC_lap waves from a hotel in Austin
  319. [19:43:34] <DanC_lap> hmm... (a) get out and skate [rollerblade], (b) organize backlog (c) try to write something even though i feel kinda clogged up from the backlog?
  320. [19:44:50] <DanC_lap> (d) commit the code I wrote on the plane
  321. [19:47:24] <DanC_lap> ah. it's raining. nix skating
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  323. [19:48:42] <jibot> julianstahnke is a German front-end dev for Last.fm and lives in London and wants a play button next to every mentioning of an audio track on the internet
  324. [19:49:46] * DanC_lap starts noodling about dinner...
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  331. [20:38:44] <V-I-P> hey guys, quick question: do you think my girlfriend put too much text on her praktikum ausland community http://www.globmunity.com ?
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  339. [21:44:55] <mfbot> [[events/2008-02-29-fowa-miami-social-networks]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/events/2008-02-29-fowa-miami-social-networks * Tantek * (+3685) drafted
  340. [21:51:29] <DanC_lap> hmm... did hAudio change in the last few weeks? I'm trying to write up http://dm93.org/2007wowy/three-chords-and-the-truth.html but now it doesn't work with http://tools.weborganics.co.uk/xsl/hAudio2RDF.xsl like it used to
  341. [21:51:34] <bewest> aconbere: yeah, I think your best bet is looking at grddl resources
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  345. [21:55:50] <DanC_lap> hmm... track names are no longer marked up with fn? retracing my steps...
  346. [21:57:11] <DanC_lap> ah... 00:16, 12 Feb 2008 ManuSporny (Replaced FN with TITLE per the microformats-new mailing list discussion)
  347. [21:57:33] * DanC_lap wishes for an RSS feed of hAudio test case changes
  348. [22:00:17] * DanC_lap posts http://dig.csail.mit.edu/breadcrumbs/node/228 anyway
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  350. [22:05:07] <mfbot> [[User:TobyInk]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:TobyInk&diff=0&oldid=26126 * TobyInk * (+83)
  351. [22:05:58] <mfbot> [[User:TobyInk]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:TobyInk&diff=0&oldid=26127 * TobyInk * (-86)
  352. [22:06:44] <mfbot> [[User:TobyInk]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:TobyInk&diff=0&oldid=26128 * TobyInk * (+62)
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  356. [22:22:42] <jibot> iand is Ian Davis who blogs at http://iandavis.com/blog
  357. [22:24:11] * DanC_lap waves
  358. [22:24:30] <DanC_lap> iand, zat you? or just some cyborg desperately trying to maintain a connection to this channel?
  359. [22:27:44] <bewest> hmmm are the test cases in mercurial?
  360. [22:28:29] <DanC_lap> the hCard/hCalendar tests are
  361. [22:28:51] <DanC_lap> http://hg.microformats.org/
  362. [22:29:24] <DanC_lap> 7 months old. http://hg.microformats.org/tests
  363. [22:29:42] <DanC_lap> looks like hAtom was the most recent test effort
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  365. [22:33:35] <bewest> so it sounds like it would be helpful if someone put haudio tests in mercurial
  366. [22:33:41] <bewest> does manu have write access?
  367. [22:34:31] <bewest> maybe a better question is "who has write access to mercurial?"
  368. [22:41:41] <DanC_lap> I do
  369. [22:42:12] <DanC_lap> and mercurial is p2p, so manu can publish his commits anywhere and I can propagate them to hg.microformats.org
  370. [22:42:19] * tommorris inserts subliminal advertisment for git
  371. [22:42:20] <bewest> good opint
  372. [22:42:39] * DanC_lap wonders why tommorris prefers git to hg
  373. [22:42:54] <tommorris> tools, familiarity, performance and github.com
  374. [22:42:58] * DanC_lap is fat-dumb-and-happy with hg, never having tried git and having tried bzr without luck a few times
  375. [22:44:37] <tommorris> i'll send you a github invite if you like.
  376. [22:45:28] <bewest> it'd be more compelling to try if they supported openid
  377. [22:45:55] * gsnedders prefers hg, having used both hg and git plenty
  378. [22:45:59] <tommorris> I'll add it to the feature requests
  379. [22:46:37] <mfbot> [[Special:Log/delete]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Special:Log/delete&diff=0&oldid=0 * RyanKing * (+0) deleted "Talk:why-examples": spam
  380. [22:47:11] * tommorris notes openid support is already on the feature requests page
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