IRC Log for #microformats on 2008-04-24
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remi is Remi Prevost, a web developper (yeah, that's how we spell "developer" in french) from Quebec and blogs about web stuff at <http://remiprevost.com/>
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kingryan is ryan king
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[[hcard-examples-in-wild-pending]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-examples-in-wild-pending&diff=0&oldid=26822 * RyanKing * (+122) New Examples -
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Broady is Chris Broadfoot, lives in Sydney and blogs at http://chrisbroadfoot.id.au/
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trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and helps with www.multipack.co.uk
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iand is Ian Davis who blogs at http://iandavis.com/blog
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Phae is Frances Berriman of http://www.fberriman.com/
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BenWard is a Web Developer at Yahoo! Europe and an admin at microformats.org and based in the UK and better defined at http://ben-ward.co.uk
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Broady is Chris Broadfoot, lives in Sydney and blogs at http://chrisbroadfoot.id.au/
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[[rel-tag]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=rel-tag&diff=0&oldid=26823 * DanMatthews * (+252) Examples in the Wild - added CloudCuckoo
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mn_francis is a web developer for Yahoo! Europe; http://cackhanded.net/ is his personal site
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julianstahnke is a German front-end dev for Last.fm and lives in London and wants a play button next to every mentioning of an audio track on the internet
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briansuda is brian suda of http://suda.co.uk and is at (-0000 GMT) and is author of "Using Microformats" for O'Reilly [http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/microformats/]
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julianstahnke is a German front-end dev for Last.fm and lives in London and wants a play button next to every mentioning of an audio track on the internet
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Broady is Chris Broadfoot, lives in Sydney and blogs at http://chrisbroadfoot.id.au/
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bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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[[rel-payment]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=rel-payment&diff=0&oldid=26824 * Alper * (+1) Examples from the wild - missing close tag
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[[rel-payment]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=rel-payment&diff=0&oldid=26825 * Alper * (+5) Examples from the wild - retry, original poster's markup was wrong in more places than one
- [15:39:00] <illustir>
i don't get the tools section: http://microformats.org/wiki/rel-payment#Tools_that_currently_support_RelPayment looks mostly like spam to me
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any tools parsing rel="payment" ?
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[[rel-payment]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=rel-payment&diff=0&oldid=26826 * Alper * (+237) Practical examples of rel="payment" - added tipit.to
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[[profile-uris]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=profile-uris&diff=0&oldid=26827 * TobyInk * (+66) Individual Microformats - Add xFolk profile
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[[xfolk-issues]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=xfolk-issues&diff=0&oldid=26828 * TobyInk * (+98) Issues - Re: rel
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iand is Ian Davis who blogs at http://iandavis.com/blog
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- [17:34:51] <mkaply>
can you have an organization-unit without an organization-name/
- [17:34:54] <mkaply>
Is this valud
- [17:35:02] <mkaply>
<div class="org">Technorati<div class="organization-unit">Web stuff</div></div>
- [17:35:35] <mkaply>
hus if an "ORG" property has no "organization-name" inside it, then its entire contents MUST be treated as the "organization-name".
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so that would be invalid
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[[hatom-examples-in-wild]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hatom-examples-in-wild&diff=0&oldid=26829 * Moparx * (+89) 0.1 hAtom examples -
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Phae is Frances Berriman of http://www.fberriman.com/
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[[User:JordanClark]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:JordanClark&diff=0&oldid=26830 * JordanClark * (-22)
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[[User:JordanClark]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:JordanClark&diff=0&oldid=26831 * JordanClark * (+28)
- [18:16:20] <briansuda>
mkaply, you around?
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- [18:35:48] <mkaply>
briansuda: yes.
- [18:35:59] <briansuda>
ok, i was just reading back
- [18:36:06] <mkaply>
briansuda: : i actually have hundreds of testcases for this stuff you know.
- [18:36:11] <briansuda>
:)
- [18:36:28] <briansuda>
we should get them into a test in hg.microformats.org
- [18:36:28] <mkaply>
as part of the FF unit test suite
- [18:36:32] <briansuda>
great!
- [18:36:48] <briansuda>
for me, i need some answers in vcard/ics to compare against
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but that can be created
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- [18:37:58] <mkaply>
briansuda: check out my most recent bugs
- [18:38:00] <mkaply>
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=Toolkit&component=Microformats&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=DUPLICATE&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&
- [18:38:01] <mkaply>
email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=Microformats&query_based_on=Microformats&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0=
- [18:38:11] <moparx>
hey all
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- [18:38:41] <mkaply>
briansuda: I've also been looking at Dmitri's "acid test" but he gets some stuff wrong in Optimus
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6 bugs?
- [18:38:47] <mkaply>
X2V has some problems as well.
- [18:38:59] <mkaply>
mainly as it relates to getting the wrong values for nested agent vcards
- [18:39:15] <mkaply>
briansuda: well I'm trying to shut things down for FF2. Keep running into tiny new issues
- [18:39:21] <mkaply>
430672 is the whitespace thing
- [18:39:23] <briansuda>
right i don't do agent
- [18:39:28] <mkaply>
I didn't even realize 430691
- [18:39:40] <mkaply>
and 430540 is an HTML quirk
- [18:40:28] <briansuda>
ok, the TEL one is correct
- [18:40:35] <briansuda>
we ignore the TYPE is there is no TEL
- [18:40:47] <briansuda>
i didn't know that either, but i fixed that in X2V awhile ago
- [18:40:54] <mkaply>
yeah. I had never seen that before. I guess I didn't read the spec well
- [18:41:13] <briansuda>
i think it was a later addition
- [18:41:29] <briansuda>
X2V needed fixing i remember
- [18:41:34] <mkaply>
The problem is everything I do needs to be decided fast. Everything the microformats community does is S...L...O...W...
- [18:41:40] <briansuda>
it is probably in the commit logs, if we need to find a date
- [18:42:27] <briansuda>
ok, i have SOME freetime soon, so if you get me a list (now these bugs) i can try to update X2V and get some consensus
- [18:43:19] <mkaply>
briansuda: The other one I would love to get settled (I don't think it is) is what things in adr are plural.
- [18:43:37] <briansuda>
right
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- [18:43:54] <briansuda>
i think everything could be multiple in ADR
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- [18:45:17] <mkaply>
well, not PO box
- [18:45:19] <mkaply>
or country
- [18:46:04] <briansuda>
it doesn't make sense, but then again, it might to some
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scotland/uk
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