IRC Log for #microformats on 2008-06-20
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csarven is Sarven Capadisli http://www.csarven.ca
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[[xfolk-to-rdf]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=xfolk-to-rdf&diff=0&oldid=0 * TobyInk * (+6170) xfolk-to-rdf moved to xfolk-to-rdf-old
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[[xfolk-to-rdf]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=xfolk-to-rdf&diff=0&oldid=27365 * TobyInk * (+61) Change of technique - this makes better use of RDF.
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rmarkwhite is Robert Mark White
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[[xfolk-to-rdf]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=xfolk-to-rdf&diff=0&oldid=27366 * TobyInk * (+771) Further explanation.
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[[xfolk-to-rdf]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=xfolk-to-rdf&diff=0&oldid=27367 * TobyInk * (-19) Formatting change
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trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and helps with www.multipack.co.uk
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Phae is Frances Berriman of http://www.fberriman.com/
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iand is Ian Davis who blogs at http://iandavis.com/blog
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mn_francis is a web developer for Yahoo! Europe; http://cackhanded.net/ is his personal site
- [09:37:31] <mfbot>
[[xfolk-to-rdf]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=xfolk-to-rdf&diff=0&oldid=27368 * TobyInk * (+258) Clarify RDF sketch
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julianstahnke is a German front-end dev for Last.fm and lives in London and wants a play button next to every mentioning of an audio track on the internet
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[[converting-microformats-to-other-formats]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=converting-microformats-to-other-formats&diff=0&oldid=27369 * Brian * (+94)
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BenWard is a Web Developer at Yahoo! Europe and an admin at microformats.org and based in the UK and better defined at http://ben-ward.co.uk
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csarven is Sarven Capadisli http://www.csarven.ca
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ajturner is Andrew Turner, a simulation and geolocation nut who blogs at http://highearthorbit.com and a neogeographer and is co-founder of Mapufacture
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mkaply is Michael Kaply <http://www.kaply.com/weblog/> and is the developer of Operator <https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/4106/>
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- [16:38:53] <BenWard>
Who's just posted the birthday message with @microformats on Twitter? That's a terrible misuse of ABBR and I reckon we've got three minutes before someone calls us on it…
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pjkix is PJ Khalil a Web Developer in SF and can be found online at http://pjkix.com
- [16:48:13] <csarven>
BenWard heh
- [16:49:08] <csarven>
mkaply I've noticed that if you use the include-pattern in <a> and if the href value doesn't exist, then the Debug doesn't show anything on that format
- [16:50:20] <csarven>
Clarification: Where href="#foo" exists but the identifier 'foo' doesn't
- [16:57:59] <mfbot>
[[Main Page-ja]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Main_Page-ja&diff=0&oldid=27370 * Movion * (+121) ツール、テストケース、リサーチ -
- [17:03:00] <mkaply>
csarven: debug doesn't come up at all?
- [17:03:22] <mkaply>
I think I might have fixed that in my latest Microformats.js
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- [17:14:35] <csarven>
IIRC It occured on 0.9.3.
- [17:35:06] <tantek>
BenWard - it's a precisely semantically correct use of ABBR - what are you talking about?
- [17:35:40] <tantek>
"today" is an ambiguous abbreviation for the actual birthday, which is a precise year, month and day. semantically, using abbr for that is correct.
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- [17:36:31] <tantek>
this is the Twitter that BenWard is talking about: http://twitter.com/microformats/statuses/839632225
- [17:37:03] <csarven>
tantek I don't think BenWard was serious (due to whole complaints about abbr-design-pattern)
- [17:37:32] <tantek>
csarven, I didn't see the smiley in his irc message so I take him seriously :)
- [17:40:14] <tantek>
if there is anybody in the SF bay area here, and would like to have an informal dinner or drink meetup to celebrate microformats.org's 3rd birthday, how about an early dinner/snack in SOMA (maybe Westfield food court?) at 6pm, followed by the Laughing Squid drinkup @ 7pm at O'Neill's on 3rd st? http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/810596/
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- [17:41:26] <tantek>
let's see, maybe if I alias-drop a few bay area folks I see in the channel, they might respond: epeus, Hixie, ianloic, KevinMarks, kingryan, kingryan_, termie
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- [19:02:38] <pjkix>
happy b-day microformats.org :)
- [19:03:04] <pjkix>
might have to get my drink on early tonight
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- [19:13:45] <jibot>
iand is Ian Davis who blogs at http://iandavis.com/blog
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tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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- [21:38:15] <Hixie>
tantek: wassup?
- [21:39:01] <tantek>
3rd anniversary of the launching of microformats.org!
- [21:39:24] <tantek>
thinking of doing an informal dinner / drinks thing in SF tonight to celebrate.
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tommorris is a semantic web geek (with a philosophy degree, naturally), lives in East Sussex, UK, is something of a strange quark (strangeness value: -1) and blogs at http://tommorris.org
- [21:44:55] <Atamido>
Isn't Firefox 3 supposed to support hCard somehow?
- [21:44:59] <Atamido>
This shows a JavaScript interface they made for them, but I can't find anything about using them in the interface. http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Using_microformats
- [21:45:37] <tantek>
AFAIK FF3 supports parsing microformats using mkaply Operator code into the DOM.
- [21:45:57] <mkaply>
Atamido: yeah. Basically an extension writer can access the API
- [21:46:09] <mkaply>
Atamido: Nothing in the interface unfortunately
- [21:46:12] <mkaply>
Working on that
- [21:46:31] <Atamido>
So until somebody writes a good extension, it's not usable? :(
- [21:46:34] <jibot>
AMathews is a GSoC student working on the joys of SVG filters
- [21:46:44] <mkaply>
Atamido: Operator
- [21:47:01] <mkaply>
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/4106
- [21:47:07] <mkaply>
I'm working on some other stuff as well
- [21:47:12] <mkaply>
but the answer is for now, yes.
- [21:52:02] <Atamido>
Ah, I had disabled that extension.
- [21:52:12] <Atamido>
It looks like it does pick up the hCard in my page.
- [21:52:45] <mkaply>
I'm working on some simpler ways to integrate microformats into Firefox. Hopefully something for the next version.
- [21:52:47] <Atamido>
But sadly it attempts to map with the street address instead of the lat/longitude.
- [21:53:03] <mkaply>
Atamido: you can also map with the geo directly
- [21:53:12] <mkaply>
there should be "Location" lit up on the toolbar
- [21:53:18] <mkaply>
that has the geos
- [21:53:51] <mkaply>
If you have any ideas, please let me know.
- [21:53:52] <mkaply>
Have to run
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- [22:00:34] <Atamido>
Locations isn't lighting up.
- [22:00:45] <Atamido>
I wonder if there is something wrong with my hCard.
- [22:00:47] <Atamido>
http://portal.beecavetexas.com/maps.php?method=details&cat=2&loc=2
- [22:00:58] <tantek>
did u try the validators?
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- [22:01:33] <Atamido>
Link?
- [22:02:00] <tantek>
let's see, start with http://microformats.org/wiki/validators
- [22:04:18] <Atamido>
Bad link.
- [22:05:22] <mfbot>
[[validators]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/validators * Tantek * (+211) drafted
- [22:05:22] <tantek>
reload :)
- [22:07:18] <mfbot>
[[validator]] MN http://microformats.org/wiki/validator * Tantek * (+24)
- [22:07:41] <tommorris>
I've thought a bit about validators recently. Wonder whether something like an HTML version of Schematron would be a good way of doing it
- [22:08:04] <mfbot>
[[ff]] MN http://microformats.org/wiki/ff * Tantek * (+21)
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[[events-template]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events-template&diff=0&oldid=27371 * Tantek * (+2) minor tweaks to subscribe URLs for easier customizing
- [22:43:07] <mfbot>
[[events-template]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events-template&diff=0&oldid=27372 * Tantek * (-12) more neutral hashtags encouragement
- [22:44:28] <mfbot>
[[events/2008-06-20-3rd-bday-dinner-sf]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/events/2008-06-20-3rd-bday-dinner-sf * Tantek * (+3228) drafted
- [22:45:09] <mfbot>
[[events]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events&diff=0&oldid=27373 * Tantek * (+363) moved past events, added 3rd bday dinner for SF
- [22:46:05] <mfbot>
[[events/2008-06-20-3rd-bday-dinner-sf]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events/2008-06-20-3rd-bday-dinner-sf&diff=0&oldid=27374 * Tantek * (+65) added upcoming URL
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