IRC Log for #microformats on 2009-04-11

Timestamps are in UTC.

  1. [00:45:55] <KevBurnsJr> rev-canonical
  2. [00:46:10] <KevBurnsJr> http://revcanonical.appspot.com/
  3. [00:46:14] <KevBurnsJr> http://shiflett.org/blog/2009/apr/save-the-internet-with-rev-canonical
  4. [00:54:25] * bpedro (n=bpedro@bl14-67-248.dsl.telepac.pt) has joined #microformats
  5. [01:25:22] * georgebrock (n=georgebr@client-86-25-196-16.cht-bng-011.adsl.virginmedia.net) has joined #microformats
  6. [01:25:42] * bpedro (n=bpedro@bl14-67-248.dsl.telepac.pt) Quit ()
  7. [01:25:42] <tantek> KevBurnsJr - perhaps you could create http://microformats.org/wiki/rev-canonical to at least document those URLs?
  8. [01:31:06] * bpedro (n=bpedro@bl14-67-248.dsl.telepac.pt) has joined #microformats
  9. [01:37:22] * bpedro (n=bpedro@bl14-67-248.dsl.telepac.pt) Quit ()
  10. [01:45:19] * singpoly1a (n=singpoly@node-3173.tor.pppoe.execulink.com) Quit ("Lost terminal")
  11. [01:50:53] * leahculver (n=leahculv@204.9.180.30) Quit ()
  12. [02:30:14] <KevBurnsJr> so it looks like rev-anything is discouraged since rev will be depricated in html 5
  13. [02:30:23] <KevBurnsJr> the other alternative is rel="alternate shorter"
  14. [02:30:33] <KevBurnsJr> rel="alternate" already exists
  15. [02:31:35] <KevBurnsJr> so i'm thinking it makes sense to archive this at rel-shorter
  16. [02:31:42] <KevBurnsJr> but not sure if that makes sense
  17. [02:32:55] <KevBurnsJr> i take that back, looks like rel-alternate is a stub
  18. [02:32:58] <KevBurnsJr> i'll start there
  19. [02:34:02] * Prometheus (n=promethe@unaffiliated/prometheus) has joined #microformats
  20. [02:39:58] * bpedro (n=bpedro@bl14-67-248.dsl.telepac.pt) has joined #microformats
  21. [02:50:32] * Prometheus (n=promethe@unaffiliated/prometheus) Quit ("⏏")
  22. [02:51:06] * bpedro (n=bpedro@bl14-67-248.dsl.telepac.pt) Quit ()
  23. [03:02:39] * jkridner (n=jason@c-76-31-18-64.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) Quit ()
  24. [03:13:13] <tantek> KevBurnsJr - since folks have already started using rev-canonical, just go ahead and document it there - not as a microformat, but just as documentation of existing practice
  25. [03:13:26] <tantek> rel-alternate is simply a stub because rel-alternate is defined in HTML4
  26. [03:13:51] <tantek> "shorter" makes no sense because you can simply inspect whether the referred URL is shorter or not than the referring URL
  27. [03:14:07] <tantek> i.e. no need to explicitly say "shorter" - just count characters in both URLs and decide
  28. [03:14:36] <tantek> and yes, as you noted , rev is discouraged in microformats, which is worth adding as a note (and link/citation) to the rev-canonical page
  29. [03:20:40] * hustin (n=hustin@67.244.246.105) has joined #microformats
  30. [03:34:55] * lrvick (n=lrvick@66.96.251.117) Quit ("Lost terminal")
  31. [03:36:24] * dglazkov (n=dglazkov@c-98-207-88-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #microformats
  32. [03:36:24] * ChanServ sets mode +o dglazkov
  33. [03:37:59] * georgebrock_ (n=georgebr@client-86-25-199-185.cht-bng-011.adsl.virginmedia.net) has joined #microformats
  34. [03:40:30] * dglazkov (n=dglazkov@c-98-207-88-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) Quit (Client Quit)
  35. [03:47:43] * georgebrock (n=georgebr@client-86-25-196-16.cht-bng-011.adsl.virginmedia.net) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
  36. [03:48:05] * georgebrock (n=georgebr@client-86-25-198-35.cht-bng-011.adsl.virginmedia.net) has joined #microformats
  37. [03:53:09] <ramsey> tantek: btw, recall how I brought up the rev="canonical" last night? :-)
  38. [03:53:58] <ramsey> tantek: Chris Shiflett and I were discussing it on IRC, hence his blog post... I was trying to explain that rev is discouraged, but apparently, Flickr (who Kellan works for; she's the one pushing this) wants to push for rev now
  39. [03:58:41] * georgebrock__ (n=georgebr@client-80-3-174-31.cht-bng-011.adsl.virginmedia.net) has joined #microformats
  40. [04:07:31] * georgebrock_ (n=georgebr@client-86-25-199-185.cht-bng-011.adsl.virginmedia.net) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
  41. [04:11:12] * georgebrock (n=georgebr@client-86-25-198-35.cht-bng-011.adsl.virginmedia.net) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
  42. [04:29:22] * BenWard (n=benward@c-98-210-154-133.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #microformats
  43. [04:29:22] * ChanServ sets mode +o BenWard
  44. [04:41:39] * hustin (n=hustin@67.244.246.105) Quit ()
  45. [04:45:08] * csarven (n=csarven@modemcable150.182-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) Quit ("Leaving.")
  46. [05:28:52] * tantek (n=tantek@adsl-63-195-114-133.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) Quit ()
  47. [05:31:51] * dglazkov (n=dglazkov@c-98-207-88-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #microformats
  48. [05:31:52] * ChanServ sets mode +o dglazkov
  49. [05:48:02] * tantek (n=tantek@adsl-63-195-114-133.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) has joined #microformats
  50. [05:48:03] * ChanServ sets mode +o tantek
  51. [06:06:29] * tantek (n=tantek@adsl-63-195-114-133.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) Quit ()
  52. [06:08:56] * dglazkov (n=dglazkov@c-98-207-88-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) Quit ()
  53. [06:09:50] * BenWard (n=benward@c-98-210-154-133.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) Quit ("Shutdown")
  54. [06:18:51] * Broady_ is now known as Broady
  55. [06:19:54] * BobJonkman (n=BobJonkm@206-248-137-186.dsl.teksavvy.com) has joined #microformats
  56. [06:48:03] * RobotDeathSquad_ (n=RobotDea@71.237.177.242) Quit ()
  57. [07:03:11] * BenWard (n=benward@c-98-210-154-133.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #microformats
  58. [07:03:11] * ChanServ sets mode +o BenWard
  59. [07:03:38] * BenWard (n=benward@c-98-210-154-133.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) Quit (Client Quit)
  60. [07:24:50] * georgebrock__ (n=georgebr@client-80-3-174-31.cht-bng-011.adsl.virginmedia.net) Quit ()
  61. [08:58:44] * georgebrock (n=georgebr@client-80-3-174-31.cht-bng-011.adsl.virginmedia.net) has joined #microformats
  62. [09:01:46] * Broady_ (n=broady@unaffiliated/broady) has joined #microformats
  63. [09:12:08] * Broady (n=broady@unaffiliated/broady) Quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host))
  64. [09:18:24] * BobJonkman (n=BobJonkm@206-248-137-186.dsl.teksavvy.com) Quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
  65. [10:10:21] * KevBurnsJr (n=kevburns@c-98-234-223-68.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) Quit ()
  66. [11:24:02] * Hey_neken (n=kaxero@215.Red-213-96-129.staticIP.rima-tde.net) has joined #microformats
  67. [11:28:45] * MrTopf (n=cs@p5B3D74C6.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #microformats
  68. [11:41:09] * MrTopf (n=cs@p5B3D74C6.dip.t-dialin.net) Quit ("deconstructing...")
  69. [12:08:58] * bpedro (n=bpedro@bl14-85-158.dsl.telepac.pt) has joined #microformats
  70. [12:13:22] * georgebrock_ (n=georgebr@client-80-4-216-195.cht-bng-011.adsl.virginmedia.net) has joined #microformats
  71. [12:22:30] * georgebrock (n=georgebr@client-80-3-174-31.cht-bng-011.adsl.virginmedia.net) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
  72. [13:17:42] * singpolyma (n=singpoly@node-3173.tor.pppoe.execulink.com) has joined #microformats
  73. [13:20:53] * Phae (n=phaeness@82-35-172-17.cable.ubr01.mort.blueyonder.co.uk) has joined #microformats
  74. [13:20:53] * ChanServ sets mode +o Phae
  75. [13:33:20] * jkridner (n=jason@c-76-31-18-64.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) has joined #microformats
  76. [14:05:23] * bpedro (n=bpedro@bl14-85-158.dsl.telepac.pt) Quit ()
  77. [14:28:13] * gsnedders (n=gsnedder@host86-136-52-180.range86-136.btcentralplus.com) Quit (Client Quit)
  78. [14:35:43] * dglazkov (n=dglazkov@c-98-207-88-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #microformats
  79. [14:35:43] * ChanServ sets mode +o dglazkov
  80. [14:43:34] * Frances (n=phaeness@82-35-172-17.cable.ubr01.mort.blueyonder.co.uk) has joined #microformats
  81. [14:43:47] * Phae (n=phaeness@82-35-172-17.cable.ubr01.mort.blueyonder.co.uk) Quit (Nick collision from services.)
  82. [14:44:11] * Frances is now known as Phae
  83. [14:44:14] * ChanServ sets mode +o Phae
  84. [14:48:39] * georgebrock (n=georgebr@client-80-3-175-25.cht-bng-011.adsl.virginmedia.net) has joined #microformats
  85. [15:02:03] * georgebrock_ (n=georgebr@client-80-4-216-195.cht-bng-011.adsl.virginmedia.net) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
  86. [15:34:35] * Amorphous (i=jan@unaffiliated/amorphous) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
  87. [15:37:26] * Amorphous (i=jan@unaffiliated/amorphous) has joined #microformats
  88. [15:41:36] * dglazkov (n=dglazkov@c-98-207-88-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) Quit ()
  89. [15:46:36] * Hey_neken (n=kaxero@215.Red-213-96-129.staticIP.rima-tde.net) Quit (Remote closed the connection)
  90. [15:59:57] * hustin (n=hustin@67.244.246.105) has joined #microformats
  91. [16:05:53] * BobJonkman (n=BobJonkm@206-248-137-186.dsl.teksavvy.com) has joined #microformats
  92. [16:12:11] * bpedro (n=bpedro@bl14-85-158.dsl.telepac.pt) has joined #microformats
  93. [16:24:02] * bpedro (n=bpedro@bl14-85-158.dsl.telepac.pt) Quit ()
  94. [16:24:49] * hustin (n=hustin@67.244.246.105) Quit ()
  95. [16:46:30] * RobotDeathSquad (n=RobotDea@71.237.177.242) has joined #microformats
  96. [16:49:46] * georgebrock (n=georgebr@client-80-3-175-25.cht-bng-011.adsl.virginmedia.net) Quit ()
  97. [17:12:06] * dglazkov (n=dglazkov@c-98-207-88-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #microformats
  98. [17:12:06] * ChanServ sets mode +o dglazkov
  99. [17:17:35] * dglazkov (n=dglazkov@c-98-207-88-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) Quit ()
  100. [17:30:35] * hober (n=ted@unaffiliated/hober) has joined #microformats
  101. [17:56:41] * csarven (n=csarven@modemcable150.182-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #microformats
  102. [18:10:19] * tobyink0 (n=tai@77.89.160.246) has joined #microformats
  103. [18:30:30] * BenWard (n=benward@c-98-210-154-133.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #microformats
  104. [18:30:30] * ChanServ sets mode +o BenWard
  105. [18:31:18] * tobyink0 (n=tai@77.89.160.246) has left #microformats
  106. [18:34:54] * BenWard (n=benward@c-98-210-154-133.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) Quit (Client Quit)
  107. [18:51:19] * leahculver (n=leahculv@c-69-181-68-254.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #microformats
  108. [18:59:17] * csarven (n=csarven@modemcable150.182-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) Quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
  109. [19:14:12] * leahculver (n=leahculv@c-69-181-68-254.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) Quit ()
  110. [19:21:28] * knmurphy (n=knmurphy@newyork.elliotmurphy.com) Quit ("Coyote finally caught me")
  111. [19:22:46] * singpolyma (n=singpoly@node-3173.tor.pppoe.execulink.com) Quit ("Lost terminal")
  112. [19:23:55] * knmurphy (n=knmurphy@newyork.elliotmurphy.com) has joined #microformats
  113. [19:31:05] * Politoed (i=Sholsest@a83-132-233-160.cpe.netcabo.pt) Quit (Success)
  114. [19:35:31] * bpedro (n=bpedro@bl14-85-158.dsl.telepac.pt) has joined #microformats
  115. [20:16:42] * Politoed (n=Sholsest@a83-132-233-160.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #microformats
  116. [20:20:01] * bpedro (n=bpedro@bl14-85-158.dsl.telepac.pt) Quit ()
  117. [20:27:28] * Politoed (n=Sholsest@a83-132-233-160.cpe.netcabo.pt) Quit (Nick collision from services.)
  118. [20:27:36] * Politoed (i=Sholsest@a83-132-233-160.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #microformats
  119. [20:30:51] * knmurphy (n=knmurphy@newyork.elliotmurphy.com) Quit ("Coyote finally caught me")
  120. [20:34:44] * knmurphy (n=knmurphy@newyork.elliotmurphy.com) has joined #microformats
  121. [20:41:41] * bpedro (n=bpedro@bl14-85-158.dsl.telepac.pt) has joined #microformats
  122. [20:50:56] * bpedro (n=bpedro@bl14-85-158.dsl.telepac.pt) Quit ()
  123. [20:53:31] * bpedro (n=bpedro@bl14-85-158.dsl.telepac.pt) has joined #microformats
  124. [21:17:02] * singpolyma (n=singpoly@node-3173.tor.pppoe.execulink.com) has joined #microformats
  125. [21:22:35] * KevBurnsJr (n=kevburns@c-98-234-223-68.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #microformats
  126. [21:27:33] * bpedro (n=bpedro@bl14-85-158.dsl.telepac.pt) Quit ()
  127. [21:27:37] * Phae (n=phaeness@82-35-172-17.cable.ubr01.mort.blueyonder.co.uk) Quit ()
  128. [21:29:56] * bpedro (n=bpedro@bl14-85-158.dsl.telepac.pt) has joined #microformats
  129. [21:31:12] * eaton (n=eaton@drupal.org/user/16496/view) Quit ()
  130. [21:47:20] * Politoed (i=Sholsest@a83-132-233-160.cpe.netcabo.pt) Quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out))
  131. [21:57:34] * bpedro (n=bpedro@bl14-85-158.dsl.telepac.pt) Quit ()
  132. [21:57:50] * memload (n=jamesjef@wireless07.one2one.net) has joined #microformats
  133. [22:02:07] * Politoed (i=Sholsest@a83-132-233-160.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #microformats
  134. [22:03:02] * BenWard (n=benward@c-98-210-154-133.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #microformats
  135. [22:03:02] * ChanServ sets mode +o BenWard
  136. [22:45:10] * Politoed (i=Sholsest@a83-132-233-160.cpe.netcabo.pt) Quit (Connection timed out)
  137. [23:16:24] * BobJonkman1 (n=BobJonkm@206-248-137-186.dsl.teksavvy.com) has joined #microformats
  138. [23:32:41] * BobJonkman (n=BobJonkm@206-248-137-186.dsl.teksavvy.com) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
  139. [23:46:24] * BobJonkman (n=BobJonkm@206-248-137-186.dsl.teksavvy.com) has joined #microformats
  140. [23:52:18] * BobJonkman2 (n=BobJonkm@206-248-137-186.dsl.teksavvy.com) has joined #microformats

These logs were automatically created by mflogbot on chat.freenode.net using a modified version of the Java IRC LogBot.

See http://microformats.org/wiki/mflogbot for more information.