IRC Log for #microformats on 2009-04-28
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Tantek edited value-class-pattern "updating with incremental fixes/tweaks rather than all at once. value class pattern only applies to simple strings, tel, and datetimes currently. " (+366) http://is.gd/uZSw
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Tantek edited value-class-pattern "lack of timezone indicates a floating datetime" (+124) http://is.gd/v0en
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- [02:21:37] <mfbot>
Alextiming edited hcard-faq "" (+434) http://is.gd/v0M7
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Tantek edited hcard-faq "reword a few new questions to be a bit more specific and more neutral/positive POV" (-75) http://is.gd/v1qe
- [03:44:00] <mfbot>
Tantek edited hcard-faq "answer the question What is the point of hCard" (+948) http://is.gd/v1rK
- [03:53:17] <mfbot>
Tantek edited hcard-faq "answer more than just links and help users" (+582) http://is.gd/v1vU
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- [03:54:29] * DanC hopes to catch up with Tantek about the portable contacts stuff I saw at IETF 74 http://brightkite.com/objects/e3150e00198711deb4fe003048c0801e
- [03:54:41] <DanC>
but I should prolly call it a night soon
- [03:56:20] <tantek>
Hi DanC - would certainly like to hear your opinion of portable contacts
- [03:56:45] <DanC>
on the plus side, it seems grounded in experience with real user data
- [03:56:58] <DanC>
on the minus side, it's XML that's not XHTML
- [03:58:06] <DanC>
I'm in the middle of migrating my contacts to a G1 phone, and google's atom-based gdata api is pretty good as XML apis go, but it still sucks
- [03:58:19] <DanC>
if it were using hCard, I could at least *print* the dang things.
- [03:58:50] <tantek>
DanC, lots of web programmers don't get all the "free" stuff you get with XHTML over XML (POX or not)
- [03:59:40] <DanC>
I spread the good news whenever I can, e.g. wdn09: http://www.w3.org/2009/Talks/02wdn/slides#(31)
- [03:59:47] <tantek>
also, the gdata APIs are known for unnecessarily reinventing many things
- [04:00:30] <DanC>
what makes you curious about portable contacts? where do you run into them?
- [04:01:41] <mfbot>
Tantek edited hcard-faq "add another FAQ on how to style hCards with CSS related to articles found while researching to answer earlier added FAQs" (+390) http://is.gd/v1AO
- [04:02:13] <DanC>
speaking of wdn09, when I went looking for CSS styles for hCard, I ran into John A.'s work
- [04:02:27] <tantek>
DanC I'm curious about *your opinion* in particular about them
- [04:02:48] <DanC>
well, I haven't studied the whole package. I just caught a few slides at IETF 74
- [04:03:34] <tantek>
I've spoken with Joseph Smarr et al about them. He works for Plaxo and Plaxo also has very good hCard support etc.
- [04:05:05] <DanC>
there's a whole constellation of stuff that I see from tweets from folks like Kevin Marks... I wish I could manage to make time to study it more closely.
- [04:06:58] <DanC>
re "Is there a way to convert a vCard to an hCard?" I wrote some code to do that... I wonder how well it works...
- [04:07:54] <DanC>
http://www.w3.org/2002/12/cal/vcardin.py
- [04:09:31] <DanC>
looks fairly thorough
- [04:10:15] <tantek>
DanC, that's great! Could you add it to http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard-implementations ?
- [04:10:40] <DanC>
ok... running 1 or 2 tests 1st...
- [04:14:50] <DanC>
can't get it to work hardly at all. darn.
- [04:25:12] <DanC>
ok... got it working a little...
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- [04:26:58] <DanC>
aha... found it... http://microformats.org/wiki/User:DanC
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DanC edited hcard-implementations "vcardin.py converts .vcf to .html" (+173) http://is.gd/v1MU
- [04:47:16] <tantek>
thanks DanC
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- [13:44:22] <to_>
hi
- [13:44:43] <to_>
is there a uf for title + short desc + thumbnail ?
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- [14:19:50] <tantek>
to_ could you provide a URL to an example of the type of content you're trying to markup?
- [14:20:27] <to_>
tantek: http://www.communitymx.com/content/source/97480/att.gif
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- [14:21:52] <tantek>
I mean URL to the actual HTML, not just a screengrab
- [14:21:58] <tantek>
it helps to have the context
- [14:23:29] <tantek>
ah I see you have more examples/analysis here: http://www.communitymx.com/content/source/97480/
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- [14:27:09] <to_>
tantek: yep
- [14:27:11] <tantek>
to_ the one thing your example markup appears to be missing from the examples that are cited are the hyperlinks to "More >>" etc
- [14:27:33] <tantek>
e.g. in the "List of features from AT&T"
- [14:27:54] <tantek>
you could markup those hyperlinks with rel="section" as defined in http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/types.html#h-6.12
- [14:28:06] <tantek>
the POSH approach you are taking seems quite reasonable
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- [14:29:42] <to_>
tantek: http://www.communitymx.com/content/article.cfm?page=2&cid=97480
- [14:30:49] <to_>
here are the markup
- [14:30:51] <to_>
is
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- [14:35:30] <tantek>
though I would have use an unordered list
- [14:35:44] <tantek>
with a simple nested image and link
- [14:36:27] <tantek>
to_ even on that page, it has a "Latest New Content" sidebar on the left with icons, and linked short description
- [14:36:32] <tantek>
and if you view source...
- [14:37:05] <tantek>
<li><img src="/images/photoshopicon.gif" alt="" /><a href="/abstract.cfm?cid=34D68">Retro Fitting a Color Match</a><div></div></li>
- [14:37:12] <tantek>
inside a <ul>
- [14:37:28] <tantek>
yes - the actual markup used in the page makes more sense IMHO than what the article prescribes
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- [14:37:47] <tantek>
only thing I would change is add rel="section" to the hyperlink
- [14:38:13] <tantek>
and wrap the hyperlink around the whole of the icon and text description (so that clicking on the graphic actually does something - this is a bit of a usability 101 thing)
- [14:39:38] <tantek>
and presto - no microformat needed in this case, because semantic compound XHTML (a link with rel="section" with nested icon and text) provides all the semantics you need for the structure.
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Tantek edited posh "added link and encouragement to re-use [[posh-patterns]]" (+326) http://is.gd/v7FC
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Tantek created posh-patterns "drafted" http://is.gd/v7Mo
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Tantek edited poshformats "add hGrant, removed poshZone as it is not a poshformat itself but rather a resource for theoretical poshformats" (-13) http://is.gd/v7NI
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Tantek created existing rel value "redir with spaces" http://is.gd/v86S
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Tantek edited posh-patterns "added Jeremy Keith's blogpost on posh patterns and navigation pattern from today's IRC discussion" (+1104) http://is.gd/v87q
- [15:22:29] <tantek>
to_, I documented the semantic HTML example you gave here: http://microformats.org/wiki/posh-patterns#navigation - it doesn't appear that a microformat is needed
- [15:25:37] <to_>
and with a <p> for description within li ?
- [15:27:36] <to_>
tantek: <ul><li><a rel="section" href=""><img alt="" /><h2>Title</h2></a><p>desc</p></li>...</ul>
- [15:27:57] <tobyink>
to_: <h2> is block so can't live inside <a>.
- [15:28:24] <to_>
can't live inside which tag?
- [15:28:46] <to_>
ohw, <a>
- [15:29:00] <to_>
why can't it ?
- [15:33:00] <tobyink>
Because <a> is inline. I think HTML5 might allow block elements to nest inside <a>, but in all current versions it's not allowed.
- [15:33:29] <tobyink>
Pretty easy solution though: <ul><li><h2><a rel="section" href=""><img alt="" />Title</a></h2><p>desc</p></li>...</ul>
- [15:33:33] <singpolyma>
It is occasionally a pain, but in general it's not what you want anyway, so it makes sense
- [15:34:59] <tantek>
at some point you probably have enough structure to mark it up with hAtom
- [15:37:40] <singpolyma>
Does it generally make sense to put rel=section on navigational links?
- [15:39:26] <tantek>
if those links go to sections of the document or site
- [15:39:37] <tantek>
there's also rel="chapter" if that semantic is more appropriate
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lots of good existing HTML4 rel-values
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http://microformats.org/wiki/existing-rel-values
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http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/types.html#h-6.12
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- [16:10:24] <to_>
is there exist a uf to mark key/value pairs, for example a house with attributes like: Sq Feet -> 100m2 / Beds -> 2 / ... ?
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- [16:11:08] <tobyink>
Square feet measured in square metres?
- [16:11:12] <singpolyma>
to_: use <dl> if you have a list of such things, use XOXO
- [16:11:47] <tobyink>
I'd say a two col table with <th>, <td> pairs is more semantically correct, but a <dl> is often how these things get done.
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- [16:13:59] <singpolyma>
tobyink: why is a table more semantic than <dl>?
- [16:14:06] <to_>
thank you
- [16:14:14] <tobyink>
You are not defining "Sq Feet".
- [16:14:36] <to_>
it appears i'm already using xoxo :D, didn't know was using it :p
- [16:15:04] <singpolyma>
tobyink: you're defining this instance of "Sq Feet" or "Sq Feet" in the context of the thing you're describing
- [16:15:10] <singpolyma>
but I guess a table is equally accurate
- [16:15:16] <to_>
is marking class="xoxo" mandatory?
- [16:15:21] <to_>
or recommanded
- [16:15:50] <singpolyma>
to_: reccomended
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- [16:28:51] <to_>
is xoxo suitable for displaying <label> + :input ?
- [16:29:31] <singpolyma>
to_: why not just use <label> and <input>?
- [16:30:23] <to_>
in order to style them
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- [16:34:12] <singpolyma>
to_: I wouldn't use XOXO or <dl> for forms in general... that doesn't make a lot of sense to me
- [16:34:31] <to_>
style them like this : http://idisk.me.com/abernier/Public/Pictures/Screenshots/Edit_Property_with_photos-20090428-183523.jpg
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Tantek edited value-class-pattern "more precision tweaks to value-title, noted a TODO for types of properties" (+668) http://is.gd/vc5r
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anybody got suggestions for getting contact info *out* of gdata?
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- [21:16:08] <tobyink>
DanC - by "out of" do you mean "read it from" or "delete it from"?
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(I don't have any suggestions either way - just curious.)
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- [21:17:50] <tantek>
DanC, perhaps you could document the gData contact format you are trying to convert from on a new page, like http://microformats.org/wiki/contact-formats and we can start from there.
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- [21:47:01] <DanC>
"read it from"
- [21:47:11] <DanC>
and ok, I'll try using the uf wiki to document stuff
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