IRC Log for #microformats on 2009-06-04

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  1. [00:00:13] <mfbot> Tantek edited representative-hcard-issues "resolved all outstanding issues, closed all but one." (+722) http://is.gd/NBfv
  2. [00:00:37] <mfbot> Tantek edited Template:issues-format "entry-summary is a better semantic than entry-title for this use" (+2) http://is.gd/NBgr
  3. [00:01:21] <mfbot> Tantek edited hcard-issues "/* closed issues */ closed issues" (-2) http://is.gd/NBiy
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  7. [00:15:13] <benward> tantek: I find the entry template a little confusing still. Shouldn't separate issues be filed as separate entries? Rather than multiple issues in a bullet-list?
  8. [00:19:34] <tantek> benward - that's a very good point
  9. [00:19:54] <tantek> and reflects the more common case of one issue per author per day
  10. [00:20:50] <tantek> that makes sense. go ahead and update the issues template to do one entry per issue.
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  14. [00:48:16] <mfbot> BenWard edited Template:issues-format "New feed-based template mark-up. One issue per entry. Adding .discussion.issues markup." (+411) http://is.gd/NCUF
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  17. [00:49:06] <benward> Also, tantek, I think this should be moved out of the MediaWiki ‘Template:’ namespace. That's used for the special {{Template:Include}} functionality in pages, but this content is really page content in its own right
  18. [00:49:35] <benward> Propose moving to issue-template?
  19. [00:49:41] <tantek> we (mis)use {{Template::}} a lot like that
  20. [00:49:45] <tantek> for inclusion
  21. [00:49:53] <tantek> e.g. hcard-related-pages
  22. [00:50:05] <benward> Well, that's OK, that's repeat content and it's actually used for inclusion
  23. [00:50:33] <benward> This page is not actually a Template though.
  24. [00:51:08] <tantek> Ok, I'm not quite sure I understand the difference, but that's ok - if it makes sense to you, go ahead, and perhaps you can explain the difference maybe in a new how-to-play guideline to encourage better use of {{Template::}}
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  26. [00:52:49] <benward> I'll note to do that, yes
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  38. [01:55:28] <mfbot> Tantek edited minimal-vocabulary "added a grouping section as a reminder to avoid renaming when reusing" (+233) http://is.gd/NFI1
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  40. [02:09:44] <mfbot> Tantek created naming principles "redir" http://is.gd/NGhr
  41. [02:10:39] <mfbot> Tantek created naming-principles-faq "drafted based on a question left on the naming-principles page" http://is.gd/NGk9
  42. [02:19:42] <mfbot> Tantek edited naming-principles "linked to renaming when reusing anti-pattern as example of using new names to mean the same thing, move one issue to an FAQ" (+685) http://is.gd/NGMd
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  60. [04:28:27] <mfbot> Csarven edited representative-hcard-parsing "jQuery JavaScript code to extract a representative hCard" (+1964) http://is.gd/NLEr
  61. [04:31:47] <mfbot> Csarven edited representative-hcard-parsing "Using jQuery library" (+124) http://is.gd/NLMg
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  67. [05:02:22] <mfbot> Csarven edited representative-hcard-parsing "Updated code ~ should be slightly faster since a document is less likely to have class="uid" than class="url"" (-86) http://is.gd/NMGs
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  88. [08:32:48] <mfbot> DavidCary edited to-do "/* Chris Messina */ microsyntax?" (+427) http://is.gd/NTHc
  89. [08:50:54] <mfbot> TobyInk edited picoformats "add non-service-specific syntaxes" (+244) http://is.gd/NUeY
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  146. [17:59:15] <BobJonkman> Do screen readers speak the title= attribute on all elements, or only on <abbr> elements?
  147. [18:00:23] <singpolyma> BobJonkman: depends on user settings. Many never read it out at all
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  152. [18:06:49] <BobJonkman> singpolyma: thanx. When I JFG'd it I got all sorts of conflicting info. This was interesting: http://www.paciellogroup.com/resources/articles/WE05/forms.html
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  154. [18:18:11] <tantek> Bob Jonkman, indeed there is lots of conflicting info about what screen readers will and won't do out there, and most that claim to know, when pressed to provide a specific screen reader application name, version, and operating system, fail to do so.
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  157. [18:23:18] <tantek> members of the microformats and accessibility communities have been documenting at least a list of such tools here: http://microformats.org/wiki/assistive-technology
  158. [18:25:59] <tantek> and using that list, some testing of specific assistive technology has been documented here: http://microformats.org/wiki/assistive-technology-abbr-results
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