IRC Log for #openid on 2007-01-31

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  5. [01:56:15] <jibot> xlarrydrebes is yet another Janrain idler.
  6. [02:36:49] <rorek> Kim Cameron and his team visited JanRain today. http://kveton.com/blog/2007/01/31/cardspace-openid/
  7. [02:40:36] <gregh> interesting
  8. [02:48:44] <wizard545> the enemy visits
  9. [02:55:51] <GabeW> woo!
  10. [02:56:28] <GabeW> i should invite them to amsoft US headquarters
  11. [02:56:45] <GabeW> (talking about a joke - i don't think three people fit in my office)
  12. [02:57:30] <wizard545> haha
  13. [02:58:07] <wizard545> i just wrote the biggest check of my life for a programmer for a openid project
  14. [02:58:16] <wizard545> ... broke is a bad feeling
  15. [02:58:40] <GabeW> btw, cameron and jones are not the enemy!
  16. [02:58:52] <wizard545> GabeW: i know i was joking
  17. [02:58:58] <GabeW> hehe
  18. [02:58:59] <GabeW> ok
  19. [02:59:05] <GabeW> because some people still say that
  20. [02:59:18] <wizard545> i hope MS rides the coattails of openid
  21. [02:59:44] <wizard545> either way, it's good for openid, atleast acceptance wise
  22. [03:00:36] <_keturn> yeah, I've spent today talking to both Microsoft and the Apache Software Foundation. Guess who has been more cooperative. ;)
  23. [03:00:53] <wizard545> seriously?
  24. [03:01:18] <wizard545> _keturn: how did the apache talks go though
  25. [03:01:59] <_keturn> wizard545: well, they're on a bit of a different subject
  26. [03:01:59] <wizard545> i'm really in deep financially with openid, i'll make sure you guys get the alpha version of our app sometime soon
  27. [03:02:08] <GabeW> ?def wizard545
  28. [03:02:09] <jibot> Nobody has defined wizard545 yet
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  30. [03:03:32] <wizard545> _keturn: were they at all receptive about openid?
  31. [03:04:06] <GabeW> they are having major process issues
  32. [03:04:26] <wizard545> GabeW: explain please
  33. [03:04:43] <GabeW> its in the heraldy-dev archives
  34. [03:04:51] <wizard545> ok
  35. [03:04:58] <GabeW> just that the janrain folks haven't moved over to using the apache environment for doing devleopment
  36. [03:05:08] <GabeW> and the apache people are unhappy
  37. [03:05:09] <wizard545> ahh
  38. [03:30:06] * _keturn is currently distracted, off fighting those fires
  39. [03:31:01] <_keturn> but, you wrote someone a check for openid development and it wasn't us? goodness!
  40. [03:31:51] <wizard545> _keturn: yea, it's more of an application that uses openid, not anything to do with the spec
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  58. [07:45:03] <brianellin> My housemate's girlfriend just told me that she saw someone with an "OpenID" patch on their backpack today.
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  76. [15:09:19] <peace-keeper> woot
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  78. [15:39:07] <jibot> xlarrydrebes is yet another Janrain idler.
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  80. [15:55:02] <jibot> brianellin is an engineer at JanRain
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  84. [16:37:02] <don-o> brianellin: freaky. where do i get one?
  85. [16:40:56] <brianellin> dunno
  86. [16:41:04] <brianellin> i think he must have made it
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  90. [17:24:18] <terrell> go jyte...
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  92. [17:32:27] <gchaix> Anyone here familiar with Drupal? I'm trying to figure out how to convert existing users in the Drupal user DB to use OpenIDs. I was tinkering with it last night and I think I'm missing something.
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  94. [17:35:51] <jirwin> gchaix: explain a bit more?
  95. [17:37:02] <gchaix> So I have an existing user base on the Drupal site using the standard built-in Drupal auth. I'd like to be able to associate one of those existing users with an OpenID identity so that they can log in using an OpenID without having to create a new account.
  96. [17:37:21] <gchaix> s/associate one/associate all/
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  99. [17:49:19] <jibot> cygnus is WorkerBee(name="Jonathan Daugherty", company="JanRain, Inc.")
  100. [17:59:23] <jirwin> gchaix: What I would do, is in the module, add a place for a user to add an openid, and then when logging in, when it checks to see if that id has logged in before(when it decides if it needed to grab an email address from the user, check to see if that openid exists in the db)
  101. [18:01:27] <jirwin> gchaix: something to think about, is if you want to make it so the id needs to be unique or not.
  102. [18:02:45] <gchaix> Hmm. I was thinking of doing up a little block that does nothing but prompt a logged-in (using Drupal auth) user for their OpenID and then writing the OpenID to the authmap table. I the problem I ran into, though, was the OpenID module appears to need something else. When I went in and manually added an authmap record for an existing Drupal uid, it prompted me with the new account email form instead of logging in. So the module must be looking at so
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  106. [18:36:14] <gchaix> Does the Drupal module touch any tables other than the authmap?
  107. [18:42:53] <cygnus> gchaix: it creates three of its own tables, but other than authmap, no, it touches no others.
  108. [18:49:10] <gchaix> Hmm. I must be missing something, then. When I created an entry in the authmap table that maps an OpenID to an existing uid in the Drupal users table it doesn't seem to work. If I try to log into the server using the OpenID, it treats the login as a new user reg rather than logging into the existing account.
  109. [18:49:57] <cygnus> was the OpenID in the authmap normalized?
  110. [18:51:42] <cygnus> (i.e. did it have a scheme and trialing slash (if applicable)?)
  111. [18:51:44] <gchaix> What do you mean by normalized? I tried it two ways, once just chaning the uid on a record created by the OpenID module to point to an existing Drupal user, and then tried creating one from scratch. Neither seemed to work
  112. [18:52:01] <cygnus> i.e., the authmap must not contain me.myopenid.com, but rather http://me.myopenid.com/
  113. [18:52:03] <gchaix> It did have a trailing slask
  114. [18:52:07] <gchaix> slash
  115. [18:52:32] <gchaix> Yes
  116. [18:54:11] * gchaix goes to try again just to make sure he's not totally whacked in the head :-)
  117. [18:56:56] <gchaix> Umm ... ok. for some reason it worked this time. Last night I tried it a dozen times and failed every time.
  118. [18:57:05] * gchaix goes and hides in a corner now
  119. [18:57:41] <gchaix> So I should just be able to add records to the authmap table to map OpenIDs to existing Drupal uids, correct?
  120. [19:21:00] * hendry_ is now known as hendry
  121. [19:27:29] <cygnus> yes
  122. [19:27:36] <gchaix> Excellent. Thanks.
  123. [19:29:17] * cygnus pretends to know a thing or two about Drupal. :)
  124. [19:29:26] * gchaix doesn't ;-)
  125. [19:29:36] * cygnus comforts gchaix
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  142. [22:14:48] <jibot> xlarrydrebes is yet another Janrain idler.
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  145. [22:20:06] <jibot> brianellin is an engineer at JanRain
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  149. [22:34:14] <hendry> http://jyte.com/profile/hendry.myopenid.com # jyte has been fun
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  151. [22:46:58] <jibot> brianellin is an engineer at JanRain
  152. [22:58:00] <brianellin> do we really need jibot here since we have the log bot?
  153. [23:01:59] <brianellin> all it does is shout when JanRain people enter the room :) Or am i missing something?
  154. [23:03:50] <GabeW> you can tell it not to herald you
  155. [23:03:57] <GabeW> and the log will eliminate it for you
  156. [23:05:26] <brianellin> hmm, i often tell it to ?forgetme, and then a day later it heralds me
  157. [23:09:25] <GabeW> ok there may be a preoblem with jibot
  158. [23:09:29] <GabeW> others have complained about this too
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  161. [23:23:35] <jibot> xlarrydrebes is yet another Janrain idler.
  162. [23:23:58] <GabeW> ?forget xlarrydrebes is yet another Janrain idler.
  163. [23:23:58] <jibot> I no longer know anything about xlarrydrebes
  164. [23:24:02] <GabeW> thanks
  165. [23:24:13] <don-o> we'll see how long that lasts
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  167. [23:44:56] <_keturn> rkerr... oh, he's gone
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