IRC Log for #openid on 2007-03-02

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  6. [00:36:38] <jibot> KevinMarks is a writer of code, limericks, weblogs & syllepses & his blog is at http://epeus.blogspot.com & he explains how to get Creators paid at http://mediagora.com & originally from London, UK & living in Willow Glen, San Jose, CA & is WikipediaWorthy & part of http://microformats.org & PST (UTC-8) & also in every time zone ever created, for KevinMarks is everpresent & the Podfather & begoogled & the keeper of jibot purity
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  34. [06:50:18] <babbitt> I'm developing a social-currency (whuffie-like) system, and would like the flexability of an open-id auth mechanism. The problem is that my system will utilize an application as well as web-elements to work. The user will need to login via a non-web interface. Is this possible with open-id? If not, does anyone have any suggestions besides setting up my own auth system?
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  37. [08:06:52] <KevinMarks> babbitt: you may have to impersonate a browser
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  41. [11:26:51] <robzon> hello
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  43. [11:49:44] <digitalspaghetti> hi folks. i've just implemented openID auth into my application, but i haven't worked out Simple Reg Extention. can anyone help?
  44. [11:50:07] <robzon> digitalspaghetti: what language did you use?
  45. [11:50:44] <digitalspaghetti> php. i'm using CakePHP, which has a new extention
  46. [11:51:08] <digitalspaghetti> when i log in, i get taken to the myopenid.com login screen, and then passed back to my site with authentication successful
  47. [11:51:20] <robzon> ah.. ok
  48. [11:51:28] <digitalspaghetti> but now i want to grab stuff like username, etc and create a local user account
  49. [11:51:56] <robzon> can't help you with php unfortunatelly
  50. [11:52:16] <digitalspaghetti> aah, ok
  51. [11:56:21] <hundleyj> are you using cakebakers component?
  52. [11:58:03] <digitalspaghetti> yea
  53. [11:58:35] <digitalspaghetti> i want to get stuff like openid.sreg.nickname returned
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  55. [11:59:59] <hundleyj> yeah, haven't tried it yet but you can probably get it from $this->Openid->getResponse()
  56. [12:00:17] <hundleyj> just do a print_r on it to see what is returned
  57. [12:00:31] <digitalspaghetti> oh, cool. i'll give that a try
  58. [12:00:44] <hundleyj> cool, let me know if it works for you
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  61. [12:04:58] <digitalspaghetti> weird. the openID compontent tells me I have authorised, but when I print_r the response I get this:
  62. [12:05:02] <digitalspaghetti> Auth_OpenID_FailureResponse Object ( [status] => failure [endpoint] => [identity_url] => [message] => No session state found )
  63. [12:06:15] <digitalspaghetti> (the print_r is after if ($response->status == Auth_OpenID_SUCCESS) { )
  64. [12:07:17] <hundleyj> hmm
  65. [12:07:32] <hundleyj> i'm going to have to try this myself
  66. [12:18:59] <digitalspaghetti> cool
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  70. [12:29:43] <jibot> chowells79 is yet another Janrain idler.
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  73. [12:30:05] <digitalspaghetti> hundleyj: any luck yet?
  74. [12:34:25] <hundleyj> nope...my host might not have an XML parser installed
  75. [12:35:20] <hundleyj> Fatal error: No XML parser was found in .../Services/Yadis/XML.php on line 352
  76. [12:40:22] <hundleyj> it looks like cakebaker (dhoftset) solved this problem today
  77. [12:54:41] <digitalspaghetti> hundleyj: i got it working :)
  78. [12:55:00] <digitalspaghetti> but got something weird, i doesn't seem to be returning nickname
  79. [12:55:02] <digitalspaghetti> email is fine
  80. [12:55:03] <hundleyj> thats awesome
  81. [12:55:40] <hundleyj> mine is almost there... just weeding through stupid errors
  82. [12:56:28] <hundleyj> apparently HostGator doesn't have a big integer math library configured
  83. [12:58:05] <digitalspaghetti> when you call the authenticate you do it like this:
  84. [12:58:09] <digitalspaghetti> $this->Openid->authenticate($this->data['User']['openid'], 'http://'.$_SERVER['SERVER_NAME'].'/users/login', 'http://'.$_SERVER['SERVER_NAME'], array( array('sreg','required','nickname'), array('sreg','required','email'), array('sreg','optional','dob'), array('sreg','optional','gender') ) );
  85. [12:58:19] <digitalspaghetti> just put in the array what you want back
  86. [13:03:32] <digitalspaghetti> although seems to not be fully working. returns some things but not others
  87. [13:04:10] <robzon> anyone experienced with ruby-openid + rails?
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  97. [14:29:39] <digitalspaghetti> once I get my response back, how do I extract the array fields (i.e. openid.sreg.nickname). All I get is this error: Fatal error: Cannot use object of type Auth_OpenID_SuccessResponse as array
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  100. [15:22:03] <peace-keeper> what library should i use to implement an openid consumer with java servlets/jsp ?
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  105. [15:45:38] <digitalspaghetti> hundleyj: you still there?
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  109. [16:41:38] * digitalspaghetti is back
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  112. [16:46:25] <jibot> xlarrydrebes is yet another Janrain idler.
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  121. [17:34:11] <jibot> cygnus is WorkerBee(name="Jonathan Daugherty", company="JanRain, Inc.")
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  125. [18:32:05] <jibot> epeus is Kevin Marks and the new bodysnatcher
  126. [18:47:08] <peace-keeper> wooooooot i got my consumer working
  127. [18:47:11] <peace-keeper> lol
  128. [18:47:27] <peace-keeper> sometimes its so easy to find happiness in life
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  132. [19:07:48] <cygnus> peace-keeper: grats
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  145. [21:54:28] <SamRose> Interested in opinions or feedback on this discussion: http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?OpenID
  146. [21:56:22] <SamRose> Also, I've set up a wiki for brainstorming OpenID for possible future Ecommerce applications at http://socialsynergyweb.net/cgi-bin/wiki/OpenidEcomm/HomePage
  147. [21:58:00] <cygnus> SamRose: several of the concerns listed are definitely valid, and this topic has definitely been discussed to death on the openid general list
  148. [21:58:09] <_keturn> the central problem there is expressed in this quote, I think. "people not knowledgable enough to use certificates are exactly the same people that will be more at risk from pishing."
  149. [21:58:10] <cygnus> (not that it doesn't bear discussion elsewhere, but still.)
  150. [21:58:23] <_keturn> yes, there are lots of measures I can take
  151. [21:58:33] <_keturn> technically speaking, that is
  152. [21:59:07] <_keturn> but in the end, none of them really protect me any better than the PetName extension does, which in turn is only marginally better than checking for a lock icon and the domain name
  153. [21:59:43] <SamRose> cygnus: thanks for suggestion of checking out email list, as I am not yet subscribed to it
  154. [22:00:04] <SamRose> _keturn: thanks for your feedback too
  155. [22:00:11] <cygnus> SamRose: you should definitely subscribe
  156. [22:00:24] <SamRose> cygnus: I will
  157. [22:00:34] <_keturn> (well, I guess an OTP system would provide truly different properties, but I think that's even harder to adopt.)
  158. [22:01:14] <cygnus> SamRose: (and post that link to the list, too; I'm sure many people will be interested to chime in.)
  159. [22:02:05] <SamRose> cygnus: I'll do that for sure. I think I might comb through the list archives and summarize the key points about this on http://socialsynergyweb.net/cgi-bin/wiki/OpenidEcomm/HomePage
  160. [22:02:39] <SamRose> thanks again
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  166. [23:50:45] <jibot> xlarrydrebes is yet another Janrain idler.
  167. [23:57:29] <cygnus> /ignore jibot
  168. [23:57:40] <cygnus> thanks for that, gaim

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