IRC Log for #openid on 2007-03-07

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  5. [00:20:20] <jibot> xlarrydrebes is yet another Janrain idler.
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  14. [01:14:38] <jibot> epeus is Kevin Marks and the new bodysnatcher
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  24. [04:30:18] <myren> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-schleiff-ldap-xri-01.txt
  25. [04:30:31] <myren> oh i guess i'm looking for the opposite
  26. [04:31:00] <myren> name ldap entities as xri
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  39. [06:20:07] <bwlang> i'm having some trouble grokking openid... maybe somebody here can tell me if it's reasonable choice for me to run an identity provider and use it for auth to a few applications my users need, and allow other sites to trust that people are who i say they are...
  40. [06:45:54] <VxJasonxV> OpenID is not about trust
  41. [06:46:02] <VxJasonxV> It's about identity
  42. [06:46:33] <VxJasonxV> identity providers don't auth applications. it auths users to applications
  43. [06:53:10] <bwlang> hmm i think i can make it about both trust and identity if i control both the consumers (my apps) and the identity provider... or am i mistaken?
  44. [06:54:25] <bwlang> right now i use ldap for this... but there is no provision for others trust me to authenticate a user who says i'll vouch for them - and thats a feature i want.
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  55. [09:06:53] <jibot> SimonW is Simon Willison, at http://simonwillison.net/
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  65. [14:49:26] <jibot> cygnus is WorkerBee(name="Jonathan Daugherty", company="JanRain, Inc.")
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  73. [16:36:49] <jibot> xlarrydrebes is yet another Janrain idler.
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  86. [19:03:39] <jibot> KevinMarks is a writer of code, limericks, weblogs & syllepses & his blog is at http://epeus.blogspot.com & he explains how to get Creators paid at http://mediagora.com & originally from London, UK & living in Willow Glen, San Jose, CA & is WikipediaWorthy & part of http://microformats.org & PST (UTC-8) & also in every time zone ever created, for KevinMarks is everpresent & the Podfather & begoogled & the keeper of jibot purity
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  89. [19:36:55] <jibot> chowells79 is yet another Janrain idler.
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  111. [23:45:52] <jibot> SimonW is Simon Willison, at http://simonwillison.net/
  112. [23:46:23] <SimonW> what are the practical benefits of providing an XRDS file in addition to <link rel> tags on an OpenID identity page?
  113. [23:50:10] <_keturn> it allows for the possibility of defining multiple servers. It allows you to be more explicit about what extensions the server supports. It allows you to maintain that information seperately from the HTML file.
  114. [23:50:35] <SimonW> great answer :)
  115. [23:51:08] <SimonW> so the separation from HTML seems like it's only useful for static pages, and the multiple servers thing isn't needed for my current application
  116. [23:51:18] <SimonW> how well specified is the server extensions part of it?
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  118. [23:52:36] <_keturn> Not very, given that there aren't yet many extensions defined.
  119. [23:53:10] <SimonW> I think I'll leave it for the moment then
  120. [23:53:30] <SimonW> it looks like it's an OpenID 2.0 only thing (no mention in the spec for 1.1) so it seems reasonable not to support it until OpenID 2.0 is fully baked
  121. [23:54:09] <_keturn> yeah, that's reasonable.
  122. [23:57:29] <SimonW> hmm.. I see Sam Ruby has a fallback OpenID server rigged up in his XRDS
  123. [23:57:40] <SimonW> curl http://intertwingly.net/public/yadis.xrdf
  124. [23:57:46] <SimonW> know if anything supports that?
  125. [23:57:54] <SimonW> definitely a smart idea
  126. [23:59:36] <_keturn> recent janrain libs will support that, if you call Consumer.begin() multiple times with the same session and identifier it cycles through the list of servers.

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