IRC Log for #openid on 2007-03-08
Timestamps are in UTC.
- [00:00:27] <SimonW>
nifty :)
- [00:01:00] <SimonW>
seems like something that could also be supported by <link rel=""> tags though, which would be handy
- [00:01:33] <SimonW>
XRDS files are harder to work with / explain, since they don't support "view source" very well
- [00:02:40] <_keturn>
I agree that the fact that I have to tell firefox to open an XML file with the external application /usr/bin/firefox is super dumb, yes
- [00:02:53] * xlarrydrebes (n=xlarrydr@001-839-473.area1.spcsdns.net) has joined #openid
- [00:02:53] <jibot>
xlarrydrebes is yet another Janrain idler.
- [00:04:08] <_keturn>
but defining ordering for <link /> elements or trying to add priority metadata to them seemed like an error-prone approach as well.
- [00:10:44] * tommorris (n=tommorri@i-83-67-98-32.freedom2surf.net) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
- [00:11:01] <tommorris_>
SimonW: have you considered using an XML format for storing whitelists?
- [00:11:26] <SimonW>
tommorris_: sort of
- [00:11:31] <SimonW>
there's already a proposal for one
- [00:11:38] <SimonW>
which I'm not averse to using
- [00:12:15] <tommorris_>
I'm just thinking that it'd be neat if I could mix it in with FOAF, GRDDL and other SemWeb things.
- [00:12:32] <SimonW>
http://openid.net/wiki/index.php/Group_Membership_Protocol
- [00:13:29] <SimonW>
hmm... I thought that included a format for sharing an entire group as one file but it doesn't seem to do that yet
- [00:14:05] <SimonW>
it's a starting point though
- [00:14:27] <tommorris_>
A FOAF extension would be neat. OpenID and FOAF seem like they could be great partners.
- [00:14:34] <SimonW>
yes, definitely
- [00:15:14] <tommorris_>
Hopefully, tomorrow, my site will have OpenID logins implemented.
- [00:15:18] <SimonW>
http://brad.livejournal.com/data/foaf
- [00:15:44] <SimonW>
that uses <foaf:weblog rdf:resource="http://bradaufdeutsch.livejournal.com/"/> to refer to a friend's OpenID
- [00:15:50] <SimonW>
but really it's not saying "this is an OpenID"
- [00:16:03] <SimonW>
you have to derive that from the fact that it's a livejournal.com blog
- [00:16:27] <tommorris_>
It'd be easy enough to write an extension.
- [00:17:04] <_keturn>
otoh, what happens if there's a URL in there that's not an OpenID? Does anything break?
- [00:17:52] <tommorris_>
We could just have a new property called openid.
- [00:17:56] <SimonW>
doxory.com supposedly imports your friends from your FOAF file
- [00:18:23] <SimonW>
can you extend FOAF with namespaced elementsL
- [00:18:25] <SimonW>
?
- [00:18:37] <SimonW>
<foafopenid:openid="blah" />
- [00:18:42] <tommorris_>
Yup
- [00:18:48] <SimonW>
oops, bad XML
- [00:19:07] <tommorris_>
Give me a second and I'll put up an ontology extension.
- [00:20:47] <tommorris_>
There's already foaf:holdsAccount
- [00:23:24] * cote (n=cote@adsl-71-145-204-47.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net) has joined #openid
- [00:24:19] * cote (n=cote@adsl-71-145-204-47.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net) Quit (Client Quit)
- [00:24:25] <tommorris_>
http://rdf.opiumfield.com/openid/index.rdf
- [00:24:27] * cote (n=cote@adsl-71-145-204-47.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net) has joined #openid
- [00:25:11] <SimonW>
cor, is that all there is to it?
- [00:25:21] <SimonW>
Gotta learn RDF properly some day...
- [00:25:44] <tommorris_>
Yup, that's just an OWL file that says "this is a sub-property of foaf:holdsAccount"
- [00:26:09] <tommorris_>
It'd be more complex if there were restrictions - but you can have as many or as few OpenIDs as you like
- [00:28:09] <tommorris_>
Oh, no, wait - I've got a better idea.
- [00:29:17] * shigeta (n=shigeta@124.32.114.226) has joined #openid
- [00:34:36] <tommorris_>
There we go - I've updated http://rdf.opiumfield.com/openid/index.rdf
- [00:34:55] <tommorris_>
Now what it does is it extends foaf:OnlineAccount, and the defines "server" and "delegate" as subproperties.
- [00:39:31] <aconbere|work>
SimonW: maps!
- [00:39:40] <aconbere|work>
SimonW: rdf is an ugly ugly ugly thing
- [00:40:10] * PatF (i=Patrick@nat/novell/x-ec82d21ef1e5f574) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
- [00:41:12] <tommorris_>
Correction: RDF/XML is ugly. But it's not designed to be read. N3 is pretty like YAML or JSON.
- [00:53:34] * xlarrydrebes (n=xlarrydr@001-839-473.area1.spcsdns.net) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
- [01:32:24] * j3h (n=j3h@c-71-236-228-127.hsd1.or.comcast.net) Quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host))
- [01:37:39] * SamRose (n=chatzill@brick.voyager.net) Quit ("Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 1.5.0.10/0000000000]")
- [01:52:58] * punter (n=punter@ipa68.20.91.tellas.gr) has joined #openid
- [02:02:00] * xlarrydrebes (n=xlarrydr@c-71-193-195-92.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #openid
- [02:02:00] <jibot>
xlarrydrebes is yet another Janrain idler.
- [02:14:25] * punter (n=punter@ipa68.20.91.tellas.gr) Quit ()
- [03:31:15] * aconbere|mobile (n=aconbere@c-67-171-24-45.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) has joined #openid
- [03:32:34] * xerophyte (n=xerophyt@CPE00400559e956-CM014310117547.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined #openid
- [03:44:55] * robertj (n=robertj@66-168-215-105.dhcp.athn.ga.charter.com) has joined #openid
- [04:06:51] <xerophyte>
i have few basic questions somebody help me with, i am just wondering how would consumer site, will get he nick name and other unique to identify the users in their domain of application
- [04:44:22] * PatF (n=Patrick@c-24-10-171-142.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) has joined #openid
- [05:24:01] * csarven (n=nevrasc@modemcable081.152-201-24.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #openid
- [05:27:51] * EliasT (n=EliasT_@c-24-218-71-173.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
- [06:38:00] * j3h (n=j3h@c-24-21-193-139.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #openid
- [06:51:35] * csarven (n=nevrasc@modemcable081.152-201-24.mc.videotron.ca) Quit ()
- [06:59:31] * PatF (n=Patrick@c-24-10-171-142.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) has left #openid
- [07:17:19] * sjobeck (n=sjobeck@208-151-246-203.dq1sn.easystreet.com) has joined #openid
- [07:20:29] * _keturn (n=acapnoti@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/keturn) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
- [07:24:42] * chowells79 (n=chowells@c-71-236-228-127.hsd1.or.comcast.net) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
- [07:25:22] * rorek (n=sanedrag@c-71-236-228-127.hsd1.or.comcast.net) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
- [07:27:47] * jibot (n=jibot@64.159.77.114) Quit (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer))
- [07:33:09] * j3h (n=j3h@c-24-21-193-139.hsd1.or.comcast.net) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
- [07:38:37] * KevinMarks (n=Snak@h-68-164-84-181.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net) has joined #openid
- [07:39:11] * jibot (n=jibot@64.159.77.114) has joined #openid
- [07:49:14] * sjobeck (n=sjobeck@208-151-246-203.dq1sn.easystreet.com) Quit ("www.sjobeck.com")
- [08:01:41] * tommorris_ (n=tommorri@i-83-67-98-32.freedom2surf.net) Quit ()
- [08:03:43] * aconbere|mobile (n=aconbere@c-67-171-24-45.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
- [08:44:22] * rorek (n=sanedrag@c-71-236-228-127.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #openid
- [08:44:24] * chowells79 (n=chowells@c-71-236-228-127.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #openid
- [08:44:24] <jibot>
chowells79 is yet another Janrain idler.
- [08:44:40] * _keturn (n=acapnoti@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/keturn) has joined #openid
- [10:52:01] * drewinthehead (i=mclellan@nat/yahoo/x-23676027b0f812b8) has joined #openid
- [11:18:31] * tarmot (n=tarmo@turing.uiah.fi) has left #openid
- [12:04:10] * dcorbin (n=dcorbin@adsl-068-209-008-148.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) Quit (Remote closed the connection)
- [12:46:45] * shigeta (n=shigeta@124.32.114.226) Quit ("Leaving...")
- [14:20:24] * maindrag_ (n=maindrag@dsl081-020-190.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net) has joined #openid
- [14:30:19] * robertj (n=robertj@66-168-215-105.dhcp.athn.ga.charter.com) Quit ("Ex-Chat")
- [14:32:56] * EliasT (n=EliasT_@c-24-218-71-173.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has joined #openid
- [14:36:51] * maindrag (n=maindrag@dsl081-020-190.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net) Quit (Connection timed out)
- [14:38:41] * EliasT (n=EliasT_@c-24-218-71-173.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has left #openid
- [14:56:33] * david`bgk (n=david@ubuntu/member/david-bgk) has joined #openid
- [14:56:42] * SimonW (n=simon@dyn-62-56-93-68.dslaccess.co.uk) Quit ()
- [14:57:03] <david`bgk>
hi
- [15:02:01] * drewinthehead is now known as drew|away
- [15:07:44] * xlarrydrebes (n=xlarrydr@c-71-193-195-92.hsd1.or.comcast.net) Quit ()
- [15:09:15] * tommorris (n=tommorri@i-83-67-98-32.freedom2surf.net) has joined #openid
- [15:09:15] <jibot>
tommorris is a UK blogger, lives in East Sussex and studies philosophy in London, but hasn't yet said whether he's a quark or a lepton and blogs at http://blogs.opml.org/tommorris
- [15:12:58] * drew|away (i=mclellan@nat/yahoo/x-23676027b0f812b8) Quit ()
- [15:13:10] <david`bgk>
wow, did I have to introduce myself like that too?
- [15:14:33] <bwlang>
i think people have told the bot who they are, and the bot introduces them when they come in...
- [15:16:01] <david`bgk>
hum, ok ji-bot, I thought it was a friend of him, sorry for the noise
- [15:17:40] * drewinthehead (i=mclellan@nat/yahoo/x-44f9ad8bb2d02bb5) has joined #openid
- [15:20:21] <tommorris>
I can't seem to get my OpenID login to work - http://www.getsemantic.com/wiki/Special:OpenIDLogin
- [15:30:35] <tommorris>
Can someone please try that login - it now seems to work for me (with wordpress.com's new OpenID server)
- [15:30:41] * xlarrydrebes (n=xlarrydr@c-71-236-228-127.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #openid
- [15:30:41] <jibot>
xlarrydrebes is yet another Janrain idler.
- [15:31:53] <drewinthehead>
hi tommorris ... i'll give it a try
- [15:32:32] <tommorris>
Thanks drew
- [15:32:40] <drewinthehead>
it caused MyOpenID to throw a server error, tommorris
- [15:32:53] <drewinthehead>
unless that was entirely coincidental
- [15:33:00] <tommorris>
Ah, that's strange. It did the same with my LiveJournal account
- [15:35:07] <drewinthehead>
I'm not au fait enough with openid implementation to know what to suggest from there...
- [15:35:49] <tommorris>
It also seems that my user pages have broken.
- [15:43:19] * PatF (i=Patrick@nat/novell/x-03775b11b8b6d560) has joined #openid
- [15:50:02] * aconbere|mobile (n=aconbere@c-67-171-24-45.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) has joined #openid
- [16:06:42] * j3h (n=j3h@70-58-194-21.ptld.qwest.net) has joined #openid
- [16:20:37] * dcorbin (n=dcorbin@adsl-068-209-008-148.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) has joined #openid
- [16:29:17] * bwlang (n=bwlang@bb-66-55-211-238.gwi.net) Quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host))
- [16:36:47] * tommorris_ (n=tommorri@i-83-67-98-32.freedom2surf.net) has joined #openid
- [16:43:25] * aconbere|mobile (n=aconbere@c-67-171-24-45.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) Quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host))
- [16:45:51] * j3h (n=j3h@70-58-194-21.ptld.qwest.net) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
- [16:52:39] * tommorris (n=tommorri@i-83-67-98-32.freedom2surf.net) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
- [17:03:35] * bwlang (n=bwlang@bb-66-55-211-238.gwi.net) has joined #openid
- [17:09:20] * maindrag (n=maindrag@dsl081-020-190.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net) has joined #openid
- [17:16:12] * cygnus (n=cygnus@www.cprogrammer.org) has joined #openid
- [17:16:13] <jibot>
cygnus is WorkerBee(name="Jonathan Daugherty", company="JanRain, Inc.")
- [17:22:08] * drewinthehead (i=mclellan@nat/yahoo/x-44f9ad8bb2d02bb5) has left #openid
- [17:24:24] * maindrag_ (n=maindrag@dsl081-020-190.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net) Quit (Connection timed out)
- [17:29:16] * KevinMarks (n=Snak@pdpc/supporter/active/kevinmarks) Quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
- [17:37:10] * PatF (i=Patrick@nat/novell/x-03775b11b8b6d560) has left #openid
- [17:40:02] * dcorbin (n=dcorbin@adsl-068-209-008-148.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) Quit ("Leaving")
- [18:06:19] * cote (n=cote@adsl-71-145-204-47.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
- [18:06:49] <jirwin>
cygnus: ping
- [18:08:39] * niekie (n=niekie@cc725705-a.roden1.dr.home.nl) has joined #openid
- [18:33:37] * nfolson (n=nfolson@CPE-76-177-177-204.natsoe.res.rr.com) has joined #openid
- [18:49:03] * tommorris_ (n=tommorri@i-83-67-98-32.freedom2surf.net) Quit ()
- [19:10:45] * hundleyj (n=hundleyj@128-193-138-220.public.oregonstate.edu) has joined #openid
- [19:10:46] * bwlang (n=bwlang@bb-66-55-211-238.gwi.net) Quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
- [19:21:36] * KevinMarks (i=KevinMar@nat/google/x-9dbc944193563f84) has joined #openid
- [19:21:36] <jibot>
KevinMarks is a writer of code, limericks, weblogs & syllepses & his blog is at http://epeus.blogspot.com & he explains how to get Creators paid at http://mediagora.com & originally from London, UK & living in Willow Glen, San Jose, CA & is WikipediaWorthy & part of http://microformats.org & PST (UTC-8) & also in every time zone ever created, for KevinMarks is everpresent & the Podfather & begoogled & the keeper of jibot purity
- [19:37:42] <myren>
duuuuddde
- [19:37:50] <KevinMarks>
hi
- [19:38:07] <myren>
why are there no angels singing?
- [19:50:52] * tango_ (n=tex_vim@host-84-220-199-183.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) Quit ("Leaving")
- [20:01:44] * KevinMarks (i=KevinMar@nat/google/x-9dbc944193563f84) Quit ("The computer fell asleep")
- [20:07:28] * nfolson (n=nfolson@CPE-76-177-177-204.natsoe.res.rr.com) Quit ()
- [20:10:43] * tango_ (n=tex_vim@host-84-220-199-183.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) has joined #openid
- [20:12:59] * cote (n=cote@adsl-71-145-204-47.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net) has joined #openid
- [20:18:05] * tango_ (n=tex_vim@host-84-220-199-183.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) Quit (Remote closed the connection)
- [20:28:34] * hundleyj (n=hundleyj@128-193-138-220.public.oregonstate.edu) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
- [20:29:26] * tango_ (n=tex_vim@host-84-220-199-183.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) has joined #openid
- [20:40:10] * niekie (n=niekie@cc725705-a.roden1.dr.home.nl) Quit ("Ik ga weg")
- [20:56:50] * tav_ (n=tav@81.168.40.46) has joined #openid
- [21:02:02] * tav (n=tav@82.152.195.50) Quit (Success)
- [21:03:28] * KevinMarks (i=KevinMar@nat/google/x-f2b62c0cd297760c) has joined #openid
- [21:03:28] <jibot>
KevinMarks is a writer of code, limericks, weblogs & syllepses & his blog is at http://epeus.blogspot.com & he explains how to get Creators paid at http://mediagora.com & originally from London, UK & living in Willow Glen, San Jose, CA & is WikipediaWorthy & part of http://microformats.org & PST (UTC-8) & also in every time zone ever created, for KevinMarks is everpresent & the Podfather & begoogled & the keeper of jibot purity
- [21:03:46] * tango_ (n=tex_vim@host-84-220-199-183.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) Quit (Remote closed the connection)
- [21:10:32] * tango_ (n=tex_vim@host-84-220-199-183.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) has joined #openid
- [21:28:53] <cygnus>
jirwin: yes?
- [21:28:56] <cygnus>
(three hours later.)
- [21:32:56] * KevinMarks (i=KevinMar@nat/google/x-f2b62c0cd297760c) Quit ("The computer fell asleep")
- [21:37:42] * maindrag (n=maindrag@dsl081-020-190.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
- [21:49:53] * tommorris (n=tommorri@i-83-67-98-32.freedom2surf.net) has joined #openid
- [21:49:53] <jibot>
tommorris is a UK blogger, lives in East Sussex and studies philosophy in London, but hasn't yet said whether he's a quark or a lepton and blogs at http://blogs.opml.org/tommorris
- [21:55:15] * tommorris (n=tommorri@i-83-67-98-32.freedom2surf.net) Quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
- [21:59:33] * tommorris (n=tommorri@i-83-67-98-32.freedom2surf.net) has joined #openid
- [22:04:15] * j3h (n=j3h@c-71-236-228-127.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #openid
- [22:05:40] * hober (n=ted@unaffiliated/hober) has joined #openid
- [22:29:10] * drewinthehead (n=drewinth@chauchcr.gotadsl.co.uk) has joined #openid
- [22:37:26] <jirwin>
cygnus: so, I am actually Justin Gallardo(kveton emailed both of us earlier)
- [22:40:39] * KevinMarks (i=KevinMar@nat/google/x-f0db0ba797fe2453) has joined #openid
- [22:40:39] <jibot>
KevinMarks is a writer of code, limericks, weblogs & syllepses & his blog is at http://epeus.blogspot.com & he explains how to get Creators paid at http://mediagora.com & originally from London, UK & living in Willow Glen, San Jose, CA & is WikipediaWorthy & part of http://microformats.org & PST (UTC-8) & also in every time zone ever created, for KevinMarks is everpresent & the Podfather & begoogled & the keeper of jibot purity
- [22:52:03] * tommorris_ (n=tommorri@i-83-67-98-32.freedom2surf.net) has joined #openid
- [23:08:09] * tommorris (n=tommorri@i-83-67-98-32.freedom2surf.net) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
- [23:10:56] * tommorris_ is now known as tommorris
- [23:11:51] * drewinthehead (n=drewinth@chauchcr.gotadsl.co.uk) has left #openid
- [23:33:19] * dcorbin (n=dcorbin@adsl-068-209-008-148.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) has joined #openid
These logs were automatically created by OpenIDlogbot on
chat.freenode.net
using a modified version of the Java IRC LogBot.