IRC Log for #openid on 2007-03-24

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  23. [04:08:21] <GabeW> shutdownday?
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  42. [07:33:02] <jibot> chowells79 is yet another Janrain idler.
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  45. [08:40:06] <bignose> I'm developing an OpenID provider
  46. [08:40:32] <bignose> one that will provide OpenIDs for the local system users, as defined by PAM
  47. [08:40:42] <bignose> allow authentication against the existing PAM system
  48. [08:40:52] <bignose> and explicitly *not* allowing creation of new identities
  49. [08:41:23] <gregh> cool, people will find that useful I think
  50. [08:41:31] <bignose> gregh: thanks
  51. [08:42:37] <bignose> one issue I'm having is with the sequence from "OpenID consumer requests authorisation" all the way to "send authorisation back"
  52. [08:43:12] <bignose> there are a number of different possible changes of state there, and I can't be arsed actually keeping the original request and URLs all the way through that tree of branches
  53. [08:43:30] <gregh> is that a problem with understanding the spec?
  54. [08:43:34] <bignose> I'm considering making the provider naive, in that it *always* authorises the consumer
  55. [08:43:51] <gregh> I've hacked together my own personal openid provider, perhaps I can help
  56. [08:43:52] <bignose> gregh: no, more a problem with not using a web framework and not wanting to bother with one
  57. [08:43:57] <gregh> ah
  58. [08:44:41] <gregh> mine's just a regular cgi written in python, no fancy framework stuff
  59. [08:45:00] <bignose> I think that, given the provider is only intended for use in a trusted environment, usually on a LAN which is NATed from the internet, that presenting "Do you authorise this site to have your identity?" is redundant
  60. [08:45:26] <bignose> I'm interested to know arguments for or against that
  61. [08:46:26] <gregh> oh, I skipped that bit in my implementation :)
  62. [08:46:33] <bignose> okay :-)
  63. [08:46:45] <gregh> if you're not giving away any other information other than the openid confirmation, then it doesn't matter
  64. [08:47:14] <bignose> well, one TODO item will be to present attributes via the Attribute Exchange extension
  65. [08:47:23] <gregh> yeah
  66. [08:47:35] <gregh> for that, you might want a prompt. depending on your application.
  67. [08:47:56] <bignose> I'm currently looking at options for hosting the project (I'm currently favouring TuxFamily.org)
  68. [08:48:07] <bignose> once I have a place for it to live, where should I announce?
  69. [08:48:12] <bignose> freshmeat.net obviously
  70. [08:48:20] <bignose> comp.lang.python?
  71. [08:48:51] <bignose> does it make sense for me to say "To discuss this project on IRC, come to #openid"?
  72. [08:49:19] <gregh> there's an openid-general list
  73. [08:53:46] <bignose> gregh: what name did you give to your provider?
  74. [08:54:11] <gregh> openid.py :)
  75. [08:54:15] <gregh> it has no other specific name
  76. [08:54:16] <bignose> heh
  77. [09:04:00] <bignose> a provider written from scratch doesn't really qualify as "openidenabled.com", for listing on that site. or does it?
  78. [09:04:17] <gregh> sure, why not?
  79. [09:05:02] <bignose> I thought that was more for listing software that does something *other than* OpenID, which also happens to provide or consume OpenID.
  80. [09:05:25] <bignose> i.e. "here's something you might want to use *anyway*, that also is OpenID enabled".
  81. [09:05:35] <gregh> surely this would be a good place: http://openid.net/wiki/index.php/Run_your_own_identity_server
  82. [09:06:15] <bignose> gregh: yes, that's good, thanks
  83. [09:22:26] <bignose> I'd like someone to OpenID enable Roundup
  84. [09:22:53] <bignose> that seems to be an excellent tracker, but I'd rather have it OpenID-enabled before actually deploying it
  85. [09:23:05] <bignose> and I don't understand it well enough to make the change myself :-(
  86. [09:23:25] <bignose> where do I send pizza?
  87. [09:24:05] <gregh> hmm, that'd be a good project
  88. [09:24:52] <bignose> the primary Roundup developer isn't against the idea
  89. [09:25:10] <bignose> but also says he doesn't know enough about OpenID to even know what it would mean :-)
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  96. [14:43:29] <idnar> < gregh> if you're not giving away any other information other than the openid confirmation, then it doesn't matter
  97. [14:43:53] <idnar> oh, trusted environment
  98. [14:43:56] <idnar> yeah, I guess that's fine then
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