IRC Log for #openid on 2007-04-17

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  2. [00:19:31] <SRogers> Hey - anyone have time/inclination to answer some questions about the code from Restful Open ID Authentication plugin?
  3. [00:20:07] <SRogers> I'm trying to tweak it to fit with an existing site, and having some trouble
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  13. [01:24:35] <philip> SRogers: you should ask your question and then wait (and hope!), as opposed to waiting and then asking a question ;)
  14. [01:25:44] <SRogers> It's kind of tedious, so I didn't want to barf up the channel if nobody is interested
  15. [01:26:10] <SRogers> It's related to this ROR plugin: http://identity.eastmedia.com/identity/show/Restful+OpenID+Authentication
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  17. [01:27:23] <SRogers> It generates a controller that starts off:
  18. [01:27:24] <SRogers> class SessionController < ApplicationController
  19. [01:27:26] <SRogers> open_id_consumer :required => [:email, :nickname]
  20. [01:27:27] <SRogers> and I get the error: undefined method `open_id_consumer' for SessionController:Class
  21. [01:29:06] <SRogers> I can't figure out where that's supposed to be coming from - I have Yadis and ruby-openid installed . . . .
  22. [01:30:15] <SRogers> but the plugin mentions needing "SimplyRestful plugin from Rails" which is no long a plugin - now integrated in RoR (with some changes) - so wondering if maybe that broke it?
  23. [01:31:50] <SRogers> I'm not following what the code is trying to do right there - so I'm stumped as to how to fix it
  24. [01:52:41] <keturn> there was a guy in here who was trying to use some of eastmedia's ruby stuff, and I think the answer ended up being that his ruby was too new. but that was PIP, not just the plugin.
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  26. [01:56:00] <SRogers> Yeah - that could be my problem too - I have the latest - not edge, but still . . .
  27. [02:01:29] <SRogers> I think there's something wrong with my Rails config though - digging around, I find that "open_id_consumer" is defined in the plugin lib directory in "controller_methods.rb"
  28. [02:01:49] <SRogers> Probably should be finding it, but isn't . . .
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  80. [14:14:26] <johill> so it is recommended to put <link rel="openid2.provider openid.server" href="..."> but a bunch of RPs don't seem to parse that properly
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  84. [14:59:07] <rgl> johill, maybe because they are not openid 2.0 RP?
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  91. [15:18:13] <mm2000> where can i find out about what attributes are valid for openid? (without reading the whole spec.)
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  94. [15:32:39] <jibot> chowells79 is yet another Janrain idler.
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  101. [16:59:29] <jibot> cygnus is WorkerBee(name="Jonathan Daugherty", company="JanRain, Inc.")
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  115. [19:24:10] <rgl> the new myopenid.com visual is nice. good work guys :D
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  117. [19:37:13] <cygnus> thanks, rgl. :)
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  120. [19:46:35] <rgl> :D
  121. [19:46:46] <rgl> have you guys seen this http://www.productwiki.com/h2o_1500_aquygen_gas_generator/article/hho_water_is_the_ultimate_fuel_source.html ?
  122. [19:46:53] <rgl> seems amazing!
  123. [19:51:20] <SRogers> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrolysis_of_water
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  126. [20:11:30] <rgl> what is the role of the "sig" field that is present on the myopenid.com forms?
  127. [20:11:39] <rgl> (as a hidden field)
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  130. [20:22:16] <chowells79> rgl, it is part of our strategy for preventing CSRF attacks.
  131. [20:22:45] <rgl> chowells79, does it work?
  132. [20:23:04] <rgl> chowells79, can I talk with you in pvt?
  133. [20:23:16] <chowells79> Well, it's prevented the attacks we've tested. I'm not going to say it prevents all possible attacks, ever. :)
  134. [20:23:23] <chowells79> And yes, no problem.
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  139. [20:42:58] <jibot> trel1023 is Terrell Russell of http://claimID.com and http://weblog.terrellrussell.com
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  141. [20:49:35] <pisi> Hi. Is there a ready made reverse of openid.urinorm.urinorm() ? (python library)
  142. [20:50:56] <j3h> reverse?
  143. [20:50:56] <cygnus> reverse?
  144. [20:51:02] <chowells79> j3h wins.
  145. [20:51:06] <cygnus> damn.
  146. [20:51:10] <GabeW> reverse?
  147. [20:51:22] <GabeW> the only losers are the ones who don't play in the first place!
  148. [20:51:45] <chowells79> So, if I get around to asking that tomorrow, I'm still a winner? yay!
  149. [20:53:29] <pisi> a few strips should do then. I thought something that would take an URL and return a 'well known human readable form' like the one you get in jyte.com after you have signed in.
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  151. [20:56:48] <chowells79> Oh. I believe that's stripping http:// off the front, stripping paths that are just "/", and maybe (maybe not) doing some IRI transformations.
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  153. [20:57:25] <chowells79> Though, IDNA isn't reversible, so clearly that's not being done.
  154. [21:02:47] <pisi> chowells79: you sure ? I had for a while a wildcard funny domain name that I enabled wildcard domains and sentence construction for. so you could type what.ever.you.wanted.segi.ee and it turned it into a page title. python sure had code to turn this stupid format back to utf8 for me.
  155. [21:03:21] <chowells79> It's not 100% reversible.
  156. [21:03:26] <chowells79> I'm certain of that.
  157. [21:04:52] <chowells79> >>> u'abc\u1234def'.encode('idna')
  158. [21:04:53] <chowells79> 'xn--abcdef-r5z'
  159. [21:05:08] <chowells79> As you can see, information about ordering is lost.
  160. [21:05:57] <chowells79> hmm. bad example. :)
  161. [21:06:26] <chowells79> But, to be less wrong...
  162. [21:06:38] <chowells79> punycode is part of the process of idna encoding
  163. [21:06:51] <cygnus> I was going to say.
  164. [21:06:52] <chowells79> and punycode maps certain characters to the same thing
  165. [21:06:54] <j3h> you can decode idna, but that's not the only thing that normalizing a URL does
  166. [21:07:07] <rgl> when I first login into a new consumer, myopenid.com shows the typical "Allow forever" buttons, and there is a little help link named "what exactly do these buttons do?", but something is misleading, it says: "we will confirm to http://simonwillison.net/openid/complete/ that http://xxx.myopenid.com/ belongs to you" but the "http://simonwillison.net/openid/complete/" is the openid.return_to url (without query_string) and not the openid.trust_root. Is that corre
  167. [21:07:07] <rgl> ct?
  168. [21:08:00] <cygnus> no, it should show the trust_root.
  169. [21:08:09] <cygnus> and it's possible that they're the same.
  170. [21:08:31] <rgl> I though so. and they are not the same.
  171. [21:08:45] <cygnus> what are the values, then?
  172. [21:08:47] <rgl> the trust_root is http://simonwillison.net/
  173. [21:09:10] <rgl> and return_to is http://simonwillison.net/openid/complete/?nonce=jDHvvFyu
  174. [21:09:29] <rgl> go try it yourself at http://simonwillison.net/ :D
  175. [21:09:53] <rgl> (I'm not affiliated with Simon, thou hehe)
  176. [21:11:06] <rgl> oh, I fail to say that the "problem" only shows at the "help link", the other text on the page is correct, and shows the trust_root link.
  177. [21:12:00] <cygnus> rgl: that's where I was wrong. I thought you were referring to the other text.
  178. [21:12:08] <cygnus> but the help text you mentioned is wrong, you're right.
  179. [21:13:49] <rgl> will you (?) take care of that, or should I report it?
  180. [21:14:52] <cygnus> I can take care of it.
  181. [21:15:01] <rgl> ok :D
  182. [21:15:02] <cygnus> thanks for spotting it. :)
  183. [21:15:10] <rgl> np :D
  184. [21:16:49] <rgl> when I click the "Allow once", what happens if I try to issue a mode=checkid_immediate ? will it return a user_setup_url response and not allow the check?
  185. [21:19:28] <chowells79> That's correct.
  186. [21:25:25] <rgl> I see. thx :)
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